Why After Market Mercedes Wheels are junk.

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3 жыл бұрын

This video is about Why After Market Mercedes Wheels are junk.
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@AppleJack1997 3 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly did not know about the inserts. Thank you for this.

@nosoupforyou425 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a wow moment! Had no idea about this either nor the level of potential damage. Glad I like original so have never had this issue

@daveh2612 3 жыл бұрын

I love your fiery anger and enthusiasm Pierre! Your knowledge is second to none.

@chuckfinley3542 3 жыл бұрын

Just like the genuine Mercedes wheels, my wife married me for my structural integrity-not my flashy looks. ;)

@daggermtb 4 ай бұрын

Haha - love it! Just got done putting the Blizzaks on my wifes 300SEL and I got one of my lug nuts mixed up on the rear. Tink, tink, tink... Known issue & both sets of wheels on her's are aftermarket. Couple of minutes to find the longer stud, shaved off a 1/16th on the grinder & back in business. She doesn't drive very far each day, but loves the look of the car & that saves me 10's of thousands$$ in a replacement car. I do think I have 3 sets of steel wheels laying around if you need any! You are a great resource - hope to stop by when I'm down your way. Take care!!

@aeyb701 3 жыл бұрын

I now drive a 2011 ford crown Victoria, used to drive a GLK250, but I still watch and enjoy your videos.

@pamed76 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Pierre, I always thought that there also was a mb mark on Mercedes wheels so that you could recognize them from aftermarket wheels. Thanks for this video! Have a good weekend.

@rcdrum29 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great information. I can't wait to see your post on a 500E as I own one. 👍👍👍 From France,

@melvinvargas7636 3 жыл бұрын

exellent explanation as always! Pierre

@TheCardio7 3 жыл бұрын

Great info ! Thanks for these videos.

@gravytrain416 3 жыл бұрын

Once again, I learned something new! I've never bought aftermarket rims, but I know now that I won't!! Never knew about the steel inserts on the 15" rims. Makes total sense! Thanks, Pierre!!

@MrTbullit 3 жыл бұрын

Pierre, You never come close to falling short on these educational vids. Can not Thank you enough, So Happy to have found you!!!!

@mercedesclassicswithpierre1753 3 жыл бұрын

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@yvesalepin3486 3 жыл бұрын

You are damn right on this Pierre. When I purchased my M-B 2014 GLK250 I wanted mags for the set of winter tires (yes here in Québec Province the winter tires are mandatory). After reading information on why purchase a set of OEM mags instead of aftermarket mags, was convinced that it was the best safety and logical step to buy OEM. And many details you mentioned Pierre was in the information. So this video is a very important message for those who are shopping for a set of mags to buy OEM! Thumbs up to you Pierre!👍🏻👍🏻

@edward2359 3 жыл бұрын

You have to... just love this guy!!....w124 1991 300E

@jdjavier1020 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Thanks Pierre.

@atlenaavik6526 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Pierre. As usual a fantastic video with great excitement. But does this apply to newer cars like the 124 as well?

@williamthomas2729 3 жыл бұрын

I too love origional wheels on these fine Mercedes Benz automobiles. My 74 450 sel has steel wheels with the superb hub caps on them.

@sargent255 3 жыл бұрын

Wow did not know thanks for the information

@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 3 жыл бұрын

Great info. 👍

@ItsAli4 3 жыл бұрын

Hilarious watching Pierre trying not to scream! Very educational video as usual. This video has convinced me NOT to ever change my wheels. God bless you, Pierre.

@LiviuRo1 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much everything aftermarket Mercedes is jnot made in Germany and is junk. Great video as always , have a nice weekend Pierre.

@avivscrewvalla 3 жыл бұрын

Febi Bilstein is made in Germany and in many cases, is junk.

@portuguesepetrolhead 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the informative video, am a Merc collector and didn't know about the metal inserts. As for ghastly looks over sobriety and function... welcome to 2021. It's a lost cause, don't get angry. Cheers from another fan of originality.

@tisoy909 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@TrainerTakumi 3 жыл бұрын

thanks Pierre!

@edward2359 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir... may I have a another!

@12pagani 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think of genuine centra wheels? I have a stunning set on my 560 sel and absolutely love them. Had replicas of them on my 300 but those where never quite "right" they where offered in the amg catalogues back then

@billwelter509 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@zenjamin6262 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing this to my attention ! OEM wheels always look best and now I understand why they are superior

@1koolkat76 3 жыл бұрын

Amen to that brother!

@Cozzera 3 жыл бұрын

Wow you really hit that home!

@pinzgauernorcal 2 жыл бұрын

i just scorred a free set of centra made in germany 16 1/2 X 14 h2 e30 do you know if they fit W123 or and W115?

@Andrew-zv4fm 3 жыл бұрын

I think you need to do a video series on this topic. You should have shown a genuine Mercedes rim and show an aftermarket Mercedes rim. I miss your videos.

@12pagani 3 жыл бұрын

Now I'm worried about the ronal r9 wheels on my 300 sel! They are genuine ronals and I had new inserts inserted as someone drilled out the lugholes for a ford hub years ago. I enjoy them but now second guessing my refurbished set

@gjemd459 3 жыл бұрын

Mercedes may be the only mark that appeals only in factory fitment. Aftermarket diminishes the Mercedes aura.

@verdict1163 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. A lot of cars can be improved with careful selection of aftermarket parts. Mercedes - almost never. Even the wheels, nothing looks better than stock.

@tonychavez2083 Жыл бұрын

we usually find oem replacements from a mercedes only wrecking yard. no substitute for OEM type. sometimes Ronal made them for Mercedes.

@bramo 2 жыл бұрын

Got the 15 holes, but the lug bolts still went into the parking brake. Had to change the lug bolts to shorter ones. So I still dont get what you mean with that lug bolt protection

@pinzgauernorcal 2 жыл бұрын

I love it

@rEdHoUsE_1969 3 жыл бұрын

Pierre ... I feel your frustration (putting the IMPORTANT safety aspect aside) ... I'm not a fan of 'bling' wheels on Mercedes ... my idea of 'bling' is AMG Mono's ...

@THIRSTYGUMS 3 жыл бұрын

amg blocks are hard to beat. but for the 50s 60s 70s I love the old steelies with caps . and bbs basket weaves too, on those cars not too big though. 17" max

@christopher6161 3 жыл бұрын

Cool

@ram457moreno 3 жыл бұрын

Con crappy wheels on my car .... Thanks for the information

@kermitefrog64 3 жыл бұрын

Good information, especially with all the Mercedes wheels on Ebay. If you buy something on the cheap, why is it cheap?

@lazylewislewis4944 Жыл бұрын

what about period correct (80's) Ronal mags?

@charlesrockwell3923 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can back this up! When I used to put a lot of tires and wheels on customer cars, the aftermarket wheels usually cracked and failed before 50,000 miles. Stick with OEM wheels!

@stephenmorgan6507 3 жыл бұрын

Most aftermarket wheels require a different bolt length as well, I found this out on W201 and W124 cars after buying some and having a flat by the side of the road and trying to change the wheel, in the trunk was a stock wheel of course. Cheapskates buy four wheels not five so you are screwed.............Yep the back wheel locked up as the bolt was too long and fouled the brake and I was going nowhere. My current W201 had a nice set of snow tyres on aftermarket wheels and I had the same problem except after putting the stock wheels on the car the bolts were too short by a tad. Had I not been aware of this problem I would probably be driving around on them now and waiting for a wheel to fall off. There are by the way a couple of good suppliers of the correct length bolts if you seek out the info on the internet.

@hamadrajab7645 3 жыл бұрын

Great channel! I'm in the process of restoring my dad's 83 500SEC euro spec , originally I recall it having 15" Rial matching color wheels , I can't say exactly I was too little to remember. Which german wheel brand u think will be best ? BBS , Rial ? They're pretty rare for 15 dia

@Mr._1987 7 ай бұрын

BBS RA, RZ, or best of all RS.

@hamadrajab7645 6 ай бұрын

@@Mr._1987 thanks! I ended up with a rial N type which I found in near mint condition that came off a C107

@Mr._1987 6 ай бұрын

@@hamadrajab7645 Excellent choice, that’s probably my favorite non BBS mesh wheel.

@OscarGarcia-sk8px 3 жыл бұрын

Did OZ make the earlier AMG wheels?

@Chuckyd26 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Pierre, suggestion: How about a video on your daily driver?

@thisisnightshop2037 3 жыл бұрын

Okay, you've seen one of them. The 280 SE 4.5. I guess it's time for the 300 d

@Chuckyd26 3 жыл бұрын

@@thisisnightshop2037 Yes was thinking of the 300d :)

@reginaldcarson4609 3 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on aftermarket radios in a classic Mercedes?

@fixittony Жыл бұрын

Interesting…I bought an aftermarket set of wheels for my ‘94 C280 for my winter Bridgestone Blizzaks. The wheels are on the car 3-4 months a year whereas the original wheels are on the rest of the year. I actually had a tough time locating genuine wheels even from Mercedes.

@sumporfuk 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have known about the OEM wheel integrity for some time but beyond that, the dilemma is tires. The tire manufacturers have not only done away with performance tires in 13” - 16” range of tire but left us with the slimmest of pickings for some variation all season rubber in these smaller sizes. Tires, tires, tires are what ride quality and performance always comes down to.

@kwittnebel 3 жыл бұрын

Michelin defender still comes in an h rated 14" 195/70 fyi

@chuckhpnwx 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the ASA 8 hole replica wheels from Tire Rack and have been fighting vibrations with them ever since. Trying to see if Tire Rack will help me out, despite them being out of warranty, but first I have to spend more money on them to have them tested. Right now, though, it seems I bought 6 to get 3 that are straight "enough." Never again.

@closer71 3 жыл бұрын

My question is: Can you take the W210 chassis E55 Monoblock wheels and put them on a 1990-1993 R129 chassis 500SL (NOT SL500) without any problem????

@sumporfuk 3 жыл бұрын

Would you mind posting the details of the wheel specialist in Delaware?

@tojadmka 3 жыл бұрын

Also interested, please post the info

@myredute Жыл бұрын

I sold the OMG rims off my 1994 E280 & replaced them with a set of AMG Monoblocks. You can't do better than that - the best wheels on the best car, no argument!

@Italian144 3 жыл бұрын

Rather than replace the original wheels with a set of new ones, Mercedes owners should just have the original wheels refurbished. Although aftermarket chrome wheels may look shiny and classy at first, the chrome tends to tarnish and flake which looks disastrous. It’s better to stick originality

@kowloonbl 3 жыл бұрын

You can feel his passion. He REALLY wanted to say, "Hey dumbass, do it right, or don't do it at all!"

@THIRSTYGUMS 3 жыл бұрын

Pierre is RAGING lol!

@thebulgarianguy8461 Жыл бұрын

Curious if the new Mercedes wheels have steel inserts. I somehow doubt it

@zulutron4206 2 жыл бұрын

call handler: 911 dispatch, what's your emergency? benz wheel: hello? yes, this is benz wheel. i was just man handled and violated multiple times by Pierre Hedary. call handler: are you in need of emergency medical assistance? benz wheel: not physically, no... even though he penetrated me, front and rear, in a violent rage..where the lug bolts go... I do come with STEEL INSERTS!! wheel2: got'eeemm!!!

@ericmelanson6745 3 жыл бұрын

It’s logical that you get what you pay for and not surprising that Mercedes Benz puts as much thought into the wheels as to everything else on the vehicle.

@fernandovasquez8967 Жыл бұрын

I’m trying to fit 2003 s430 17” 7.5 wheels on my 1992 300ce I hope I’m not dead to you Papa Pierre 😪

@MartinLopez-ys5dm Жыл бұрын

Ok, Roger that, 10-4 and all that jazz. Ov'r an out.

@ruslanvaliullin7734 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, premerger and 90s amg wheels tend to crack, and after hundreds of thousands of moles and a few dozen paint jobs, I wouldn't trust them either. There are plenty of great aftermarket wheels that look period correct like bbs rs, but they are pricey.

@christopher6161 3 жыл бұрын

No you should have 90's amg monoblocks lol

@silverstarrestorations1633 3 жыл бұрын

Mercedes Benz made real cool light weight aluminum wheels that came on 123 diesels with no steel inserts !! These wheels are really light and reduce unsprung weight for better handling .They are getting hard to find .

@kwittnebel 3 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about the aluminum steelie style hubcap wheels?

@silverstarrestorations1633 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@mikebaz7843 3 жыл бұрын

I had a set of Aluline 15-hole wheels that came on my 500sel, one is an octagon on the inside and the wheel bolts stick horribly to the soft aluminium seats. Even if they are "made in Germany", they are junk!

@VintageVaughnVehiclces 2 жыл бұрын

I have lots of wonderful painted hub caps I paid thru the nose for my 2nd set of pullman 15inch paintable hub caps.and the usual stack of 14 in hub caps. I bench polish them and they look fabulous I once used a set of euro 280TE w124 15x6 steelies [steel wheels] on my w123 with the 15s painted to match my murano green Porsche repaint of the 300D SOLDthat car yeara ago with the wheels 😥 Now I've got the hub caps and 2 sets of rare 41mm,and 15x5.5 w115 Limo steelies for my w115 too narrow for my s class cars I need steelies for my w107 and my w126 The sl had alloy 14x6.5 oem 1985 yuck The w126 1989 the flat Grey things yuck I've a set of 5 14x6 steelies I can use on my w123 for now For my w126 I need the proper set of 15inch steelies am Nd my sl I need 14x6.5 steeleies there are companies that make new steelies

@MrRjnr 3 жыл бұрын

why not chromed Mercedes wheels?

@jrm163 Жыл бұрын

Those “fancy” but poor quality rims should have been prohibited from shelves!

@avivscrewvalla 3 жыл бұрын

It's incredible how clueless most Classic owners are. In the quest to save a few bucks, they've led to the rise of Chinese brands like Meyle, URO and Wing Ho and whatever other garbage is out there etc. If you love your Mercedes and can't afford genuine Mercedes parts, sell your car to someone who can!

@manuelmm 3 жыл бұрын

Meyle is a german company.

@avivscrewvalla 3 жыл бұрын

@@manuelmm It's a Chinese company with a German sounding name. Like MG (British) or Volvo (Scandi).

@manuelmm 3 жыл бұрын

Please dont invent nor lie. Meyle AG is a german company established in Hamburg. I dont know if in your country anyone is sellin crap in Meyle boxes, but Meyle has first quality items all of them made in Europe. In fact they are a rename of the old Wulf Gaertner company.

@avivscrewvalla 3 жыл бұрын

@@manuelmm No one is inventing or lying. A quick Google search for "Wulf Gaertner Autoparts AG's Shanghai” will highlight the company’s Chinese HQ. All the parts that come from this shit company are made in China.

@manuelmm 3 жыл бұрын

Apple is North American and makes his phones in China, are they bad? No, because are made with Apple standards. May be (i dont think so) in USA you find crap Meyle parts because quality standard in USA is very poor, but in Spain, Meyle provides parts made in EU with european conformity of quality (CE). Sorry for you. :(

@arthurrodriguez6878 3 жыл бұрын

Why do the lugs on 126's seize so often?

@Super-rn8kn 3 жыл бұрын

As I’ve learned, it’s MB Classic or nothing.

@suzsam17 4 ай бұрын

So BBS and AMG got it .

@lamondjack4349 3 жыл бұрын

Or Brabus!

@jamesstephenson2346 Жыл бұрын

You clearly mean "mercedes is junk"

@jamesthunder7590 3 жыл бұрын

😃♥️🤣😂 Mercedes Made in 🇩🇪 1930-2005 ,R,I,P Mercedes

@ecotts 2 жыл бұрын

Hes talking bollocks, BMW wheels for example are shite, they pretty much always crack from on the 18" and upwards wheels which are standard M wheels. I've had multiple crack on factory wheels and if you head over to BMW forums you will see that Im not alone.

@Scoharr 5 ай бұрын

Short answer: they are not genuine Mercedes wheels

@mr.vegeta1212 3 жыл бұрын

We wouldn't have to buy Aftermarket wheels if Mercedes didnt have undersized Ugly wheels

@mercedeslove4291 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe cheap aftermarket wheels, but there are plenty of high quality wheel makers, BBS, Ronal, Borbet, OZ, Volk racing, Enkei who also make oem wheels. So I would not agree with after market wheels are junk.

@genuinejojo 3 ай бұрын

gosh do you have to yell? not everyone is a benz mechanic ok?

@petercollingwood522 3 жыл бұрын

Never understood why people put aftermarket wheels on Mercedes. With the exception of a "few" AMG wheels I've never seen an aftermarket wheel on a Mercedes looking anything other than ghetto.

@motorosso3349 2 жыл бұрын

Steel inserts don't stop ovaling out of the lug holes. Only proper torque on the lug bolts does that. I guess you forgot that 95% of alloy wheels on OEMs don't have the steel inserts including Porsche. Your holier than thou attitude doesn't hide the fact that you are ignorant about wheel design. Propagating the old wife's tale about the steel inserts proves that. Do your research before running your mouth about aftermarket wheels.

@michaelmayfield9901 3 жыл бұрын

Why Mercedes does stupid shit like this drives me crazy you wouldn't be so bad if all the rims didn't look like complete shit. This brand sucks and I will never buy another merc. if Mercedes was so good why wouldn't they just do it right the first time choose something better.