Ubuntu is not perfect but think of a Linux world without the contributions of Canonical/Ubuntu! Where would we be today without all that they have done for the community? I for one appreciate their efforts

I love Ubuntu. It just works. 😍 I am a busy person and I don’t have the time to tinker my OS all day just to set up my Linux desktop.

In the last five years, I've always come back to Ubuntu as my main workhorse. I can rely on it, it's stable and well supported. Quite frankly, I'm thankful for all the work Canonical have put into their various Linux projects and the distro they provide FREE OF CHARGE. They have helped massively with Linux adoption. We should applaud them rather than complain.

"I know my enemy out there and it's not a Linux user" more people should think like you

"Oh Windows 7, you're so user friendly. I hate that." - Sheldon Cooper

I switched from Windows to Linux with Ubuntu. I love the feel and control but also easy to use, maintain and debug... I try other distros... but chose to stay with Ubuntu.

Simply, because I'm an elitist arch user, therefore I'm obligated to hate on everything that is newbie-wise.

Personally I like and use Linux Mint Cinnamon. Tried most all distros though, and like a few others as well. I keep checking out new releases as they evolve. I came from Windows, as power user, commandline/batch file writer. Got sick of the bloat and spyware, not to mention forced updates. All I want is a stable environment to do what I like to do with a PC. This kind of reminds me of my teenage years when a lot of people started getting tattoos. The guys with tattoos thought they were tough. It was funny really, to watch them puffing their chests out, as if a tattoo made them tougher lol. Now a days tattoos are the norm, and they don't seem to make people feel tough any more.

I started with ubuntu. Looked into arch, and I liked it. But my schedules caught up to me and I got less time to tweak my os. Now I'm back with ubuntu and I save so much time. PS: Arch is good but ubuntu definitely is better if you have less time to spare for tweaking

New to Linux .......started with Linux mint and then tried Ubuntu and then distro hopped some more but keep coming back to Ubuntu. My journey is just beginning but good video.

You've hit upon the one thing that I really hate about the Linux community - the elitism! So many people think that they are best because they run a certain distro, and look down on others. Sometimes I think of it as distro snobbery or bragging, and such arrogance really annoys me. Linux as a whole is community led, and as such, we should be united and friendly! Rivalry between us can only harm the FOSS cause. Linux brothers and sisters - be nice, and respect each others' choices - we are all different, but with a common cause, we can make such an amazing difference to the computing world. And if you're wondering, I'm running native Deepin OS, which is glitchy AF, but tons of fun, and the truth is - I'm loving it!

I wanted to try Linux like 8 years ago. So I obviously got Ubuntu and... I don't know, I didn't like it. Years later I come back, no additional Linux experience whatsoever and hear about Arch - through memes, obviously. As much as you hate "I use Arch btw", it really made me deep dive into Linux, and I feel like I'm not the only one. So I installed Manjaro and - whoah! User experience is so much better. I finally feel like I have freedom (so many flavors) and whole Arch Wiki to explore new possibilities. I am now almost half-year Arch user, and almost a full-year Linux user. I have my own i3 and vim setup and I love everything about it. I love how much freedom it gives me. And this is the thing that Ubuntu fails to do in my opinion. It's Canonical's OS, not yours. I don't hate Ubuntu. I just hate the fact the the most people who might want to try Linux land on Ubuntu, and it actually can give them wrong impression about whole Linux thing.

Thank you, Derek. Hate is bloat.

I had a friend in college who used Ubuntu. If it weren't for that I probably never even would have thought of trying Linux years later when I was dissatisfied with early versions of Windows 10.

In the early days of Linux, installing was a challenge. Even when Live CDs/USBs worked, sometimes the full installations still failed. Ubuntu changed that. I've been using Ubuntu as my daily driver for two years. Today, I finally deleted what was left of my original Windows partition and decided to install Manjaro on it in a dual boot set-up. The Manjaro USB booted flawlessly. I installed it and everything seemed to go fine. Then I rebooted and it wouldn't start. A bit of searching online suggested that it was a graphics driver problem. I'm sure there's a load of geek credibility to getting a distro working against all odds, but I just want a working OS. I rebooted into the Live USB, and deleted the spare partition and expanded my existing Ubuntu and Home partitions to take up the space. I still like the idea of Manjaro, but I prefer the simplicity of a working OS.

Distro hopping has helped me understand the system. I think a lot of people use it as a learning experience.

Ubuntu wasn't a thing when I started. I don't quite remember with what I started but I know I distro hopped a lot at the time. I remember SuSE and Redhat were the "user friendly" distros at the time. That was forever ago, man I feel old!

"Why bother?" That's good advice for life in general :)

The thing about sending info to Amazon was it made many people to lose trust on Canonical what it was going to do in future. Privacy compromises often start small and if people don't backlash they can get worse little by little. You lose trust easily, but it's hard to gain it back.

I currently run Ubuntu 19.10 on my desktop system and Mint 18.3 on my laptop. I switched my mom to Ubuntu years ago and she hasn't expressed any dissatisfaction at all. She's not a "power user" but does absolutely everything she did on Windows on Ubuntu and her system has been surprisingly stable. "Back in the day", I was a Slackware user and decided to try Ubuntu to see what a distribution was like where I didn't have to compile everything from source (which I used to do with Slackware). I sort of miss the days of building everything from source but I've grown to appreciate a system that "just works". My current plan is to install other distributions in VirtualBox to see what else is out there. Thanks for posting this video!

I tried Ubuntu before switching 100% to Linux and I didn't like how it was soon after I discovered manjaro and that started my love for linux

Thank you. This was enlightening and humbling. I haven't been actively hating on Ubuntu, but I have had this perception that it's the closest to Windows we have (regarding the bad stuff). I am happy to learn that's really not the case.

I installed ubuntu a couple of days ago, and since it was really difficult for me , I wanted to go back to Windows. But when I try to install it with a USB stick , the PC boots straight back to Ubuntu. I've tried changing boot order on BIOS, but the same thing occurs. I tried deleting all the partitions but its the same problem. Tried formating them on NFTS or FAT32 mode but the problem still occurs. I tried changing the USB stick USB port and the iso file but the same thing. I changed the operating system from Win 7 to Win 10 also the same thing. Please help since it is the only Computer in my house.

You have no idea how Ubuntu distros have helped new users switch over from Microsoft Windows to Linux, I'm one of them, I just started like a month a go. I'm a Zorin user for now and i"d been getting better and better at the terminal, installing my apps, updates, and modifying my desktop environment, I even made it look like a Mac since I never could afford one of those. Point here is. I probably wouldn't even dare to use Linux, because of the rumors of how difficult It is to use It, install It and here I am now, just enjoying It as I learn more from It, so I think despite of other people sayings, Ubuntu has acomplish by bringing new users to this wonderful Linux world. This is just a humble opinion, greetings to everyone and peace out! Amor y Paz!!!!!!!

A couple of my long time Arch using developer friends have recently switched to Ubuntu and it has me thinking about this for sure. I'm happy on Fedora myself, though.

Great video. Thanks for posting!

Canonical make an amazing job to the Linux community. I like many distros, but Ubuntu was my 1st linux distro and is the one I use the most.

Did anyone notice how much snappier the ui got from 18.04 to 19.10 in Ubuntu?

Du sprichst mir von der Seele. Ich bin von Windows auf Ubuntu umgestiegen. Mit null Ahnung. Jetzt probiere ich bis April openSUSE Tumbleweed, Manjaro usw. aus. Aber hätte nicht mit Ubuntu angefangen, wäre ich wahrscheinlich wieder bei Windows. So denke ich das alle Linux distros gut sind. Es kommt nur drauf an ob sie einem gefallen und ob man mit ihr zurecht kommt. Ich mag zum Beispiel Arch, aber es ist für mich immer noch ein Geheimnis.

The only reason I don't like Ubuntu is because the PPA system is kinda weird. I run Manjaro because its as easy to use as Ubuntu, with Pacman+AUR support.

I've used Ubuntu for over 10 years now. I've tried a TON of other distributions. In 2011 I was looking for another DE and ended up switching between all kinds of distros (Gentoo with the the bloat that was KDE took 3 days to compile on my pentium 4 lol). I ended up right back on Ubuntu because I was familiar with it. The community was still massive and most of the software I wanted required less upkeep and work. I've put a few new machines on debian GNU/Linux on the Machines I want to keep Free (DFSG is fantastic for keeping malicious "Open Source" garbage at bay) But for work and my primary machines I stick to Ubuntu. I have YET to hear a compelling reason to change. 6:30 - lol Google is spyware, Steam is spyware, Netflix is Spyware, Chrome is spyware - Proprietary Software made by companies that collect and sell user data is spyware. Saying this is far from "crazy". But to be fair the Amazon stuff was in like 15.10 i think which is a point release and it was fixed by 16.04 LTS.

Ubuntu has the widest range of software, so I use it and am very pleased ....

Reminds me in 2009, when Canonical sent a live CD Ubuntu Karmic Koala to me, as my first love Linux distro, FREELY!! And now i'm using Ubuntu studio on my machine. Respect for Ubuntu!

I started with Arch linux after I came across your videos and I really love arch now have been using it for 40days now

Very well educated and ellaborate arguments here, thanks Derek for making this very informative video! I started with SuSe 18 years ago and hopped onto the Ubuntu train with 10.04 and really liked it until it became a drag game performance wise (16.04 or 16.10 was my last Ubuntu). So I moved to Manjaro, for which I needed to learn some new tricks. So yeah Ubuntu was a big part in my Linux learning experience, and it was a good one.

As you mentioned N.I.H. (first time I've heard of that), and my take on that is more about quality over quantity in that just because you can (fork), doesn't mean you should. Focus on improving what's here instead of making a fork just to change a handful or less of minor aspects of something (kind of like how the vast majority of distros based on Ubuntu are mainly just theme changes and a couple of different preinstalled things). I have used Ubuntu since the 9.04 days, and it just works for me. It's pre-configured OOTB and it does what I need it to do without having to muck about with tweaking configs

I think they just got rid of amazon not too long ago. if I'm not wrong it's still in 19.10 but 20.04 will finally be free of it

When I began my Linux journey back in 2005, I started out with Red Hat mainly because the software was included with the textbook for my Linux class. I remember it being a stable OS but it wasn't very user friendly (I remember one time that you had to mount the USB flash drives in order to use them, something that's very foreign now). When I came back to Linux last month after a long hiatus, I had chose Ubuntu for the fact that it was extremely user friendly and haven't looked back. I like Ubuntu.

i got people to switch from windows to mint i use manjaro no hate lol

Ubuntu brought new users to community. Ubuntu gave life to Trisquel. Ubuntu Touch made it possible for you to escape from Android/iOS duopoly. Ubuntu made a cross platform package manager so you can install software without you thinking about whater is it on your distro's repos or not. Even if you don't like it you can at least show it the respect it desereves.

Because in the end, people like to do what they're do best. Argue.

I'm somewhere around an intermediate level Linux user and I'm also a Linux Mint user here. 😁💚🌿 Linux Mint initially derived from Ubuntu but it's now slowly switching over to Debian (with Debian being the roots of both Ubuntu and Linux Mint that makes sense). I still use the Ubuntu variant of Linux Mint but I will eventually switch to a different Debian/Ubuntu based operating system or maybe I will try Manjaro or some other intermediate level Linux operating system. Also you have PopOS, ElementaryOS, ZorinOS, etc. Many different distributions but I stick to Linux Mint because it is super stable and just works (all I have to do on a fresh installation is install Chromium, Microsoft Fonts, Steam, GIMP and a few other things. This saves me a lot of time!). Also the updates are done on my terms which is once or twice a month. I don't want to have to fiddle around with my system too much to get it the way I want it. Ubuntu is nice if you're a Windows/MAC user. Linux Mint is nice if you're a Windows user. I came over from Windows 7, but I've used Windows 8 and 10.

Thank you for this. I was wondering why all the hate. So it boils done to egos cause some people are using another Linux distro and the other is the Amazon thing. I get 99% of my stuff from amazon. So it’s not like they don’t know me already. Stupid stupid world we live in.

2004, I was using ubuntu. 2021, I'm using ubuntu again

How would you call telemetry without user concent? Its not about the amazon search, it's in every canonical product. How is it different from microsoft or facebook?

Someone once told me that "Linux Mint Must Die"... (LOL) Ubuntu, Mint and others get hate because they labeled as a "Noob" distributions. But they are not really for just new users as many very advanced or elite users also use these distributions. And it doesn't matter if you dislike or don't use a distribution, just give respect anyway.

I started with Debian several years ago, and it was pretty easy. I think that comes from wanting stuff configured and customized the way I want it, so any OS is going to have a fair bit of tweaking that needs to be done for me to be content with it. Running fast out of the box doesn't mean running fast out of the box the way I want it. Take some time during install or after install - same difference, really.

Over the past few weeks I've tried a lot of Linux distros as I'm wanting to make the move from Windows after the w10 will be our last os lie money spinner. The 1st one I tried was Ubuntu and I was blown away as to how good it was. Although I did like it I preferred the simple clean lines of Linux mint.

When I first used Linux I had to more or less install and build most of the os manually. These days I use Ubuntu because it proved itself working best without me having to do/fix things like decade ago and I still don't have practical issues so no reason for me to changer. I can use whatever keeps me being able to to my job and does not get in the way and currently Ubuntu does all that for me. For desktop purposes I think that a 6mo release cycle is perfect, since I mostly use XMonad, Emacs, Chrome and a terminal (alacritty and some times urxvt) whatever changes made to the desktop environment side is not even something I notice in my day to day work.

Sir, great video. So real, honest and straight to the point. I agree with every word you said. Cheers

It feels like we have this need to show everyone how hard we had to work to get a functional desktop. "You're using Ubuntu? *my* distro doesn't even come with sudo installed by default. I had to create partition maps and install the bootloader by hand so I mean enjoy your toy operating system n00b." Using Ubuntu where almost everything works out of the box is anathema. It's probably useful to do some naval gazing and think about whether you actually like linux or if you like the process of building something from scratch. Maybe go check out Redox?! I'm talking to myself mostly. :) Over the last year I've been flipping through distros on my Thinkpad and while I settled on Arch because I like getting the latest packages as soon as the code is released, I know I probably *should* be using Ubuntu for a stable functional linux laptop. It's a balance between a prescriptive distro where everything works, and a distro where it feels like you've selected exactly what you want to have installed and running is there and nothing more. Ima go checkout 19.10 on my Thinkpad again why the heck not?

i started with mandrake linux back in like 98-99...stuck with it because it was easier to install than others, which made it the "ubuntu" of that time...nothing wrong with having a stable option with long term support, ubuntu is great

Hi I'm an ubuntu noob :( pls wat should I switch to so I can be less of a noob.

I'm a power user who started from Red Hat 6.0 days and ubuntu is my daily driver. Its a system that works right out of the box on all my machines, requiring least amount of setup time, and all while you stay connected to the internet. I've distro-hopped a lot but somehow I always come back to a ubuntu base image because it works well with quirky hardware. Having said that, I am not a fan of the ubuntu desktop overall and always end up installing fluxbox or something else. I'm probably one of those rare users who used to install my ubuntu from bottom up, using the mini.iso minimal/net install image. That way I could pick what gets installed. And I sometimes prefered that approach over Arch, because with just a few apt commands you get a pre-configured keyboard, mouse, wireless and all the basic things you need, its stuff I don't feel I need to re-invent.

Just use whatever works for you. Ubuntu is easy to get up and running and get to work quickly, and a ton of community support online due to its popularity.

I installed ubuntu recently and I am perfectly happy with it. I haven't encountered anything bad with it that hinders the experience. I think I like it more than Windows 10, just a simpler look, quick and easier to get things setup like internet connections. I mean, in Linux, you just click one button to let the OS know that the network connection must always be connected to, while on Win10, I had to look up a guide for scheduled tasks for that specific network connection type. Why didn't they put an auto-connect in there, just like in Linux?

Started out on Ubuntu Unity as a desktop distro and a server. Tried Fedora/Gnome-shell on laptop, switched it to Elementary. Installed Arch on a custom because Ubuntu lacked AMDGPU at the time and fell in love with it, but I always run Ubuntu servers and VM's. I'm currently using Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome, Arch/Openbox, and still Elementary on laptops. I don't see anything wrong with Ubuntu, and I think they make a lot of great contributions to Linux overall. Reinventing the wheel is what most projects do, and we get better stuff out of that.

9:00 btw RHEL/CentOS 6 is still not EOL yet until a few months from now

I just make my own minimal debian/openbox because my hardware is not great. I think debian testing is close enough to arch for me, i'm usually in the terminal anyway. Arch was too much work, but I loved the way it made my old stuff look new.

I love Ubuntu and its other Ubuntu family counterparts such as Kubuntu, Xubuntu, former Mythbuntu, Ubuntu MATE, all of them! :)

"Because it lets everybody to use linux in their PC for general purpose, and make linux a non geeky platform. The elite linux guys hate poor non geeks using linux." some fb user

I had a prof in computer science say Ubuntu wasn't real Linux. Then again, he made us use C99 for compiling even though this was in 2017 and new features were added. I'm currently running XFCE DE on Ubuntu because Unity is kind of buggy on 18.04 and does really weird stuff when resizing windows or trying to play games, and I also can't stand Gnome. I have a really good setup with how XFCE manages workspaces and menus, and customized it in such a way that when I go to use my mom's Linux Mint computer or have to use Windows or Mac for school, I get really confused. Having to install Gnome-tweaks does some stuff that Unity doesn't, but it's still not what works for me. And as a student, I love having apt commands for updates and ppas for installation. It makes is so much easier than having to relearn all these things after about 7 years of using Ubuntu.

I hate ubuntu but I wont hate on someone using it, cuz we have choice in linux :D

Great video. Most distros are just installation GUIs and selection of packages, once up and running most are very similar. My view, computer users go for Ubuntu or similar, computer enthusiasts go for Debian, Fedora or similar, nerds go for Arch.

I'm still a linux newbie (2years) distro hopped alot from Ubuntu and its many branches and manjaro. And settled with POP_os for now just worked good for my work flow. Thinking of going back to Manjar for my laptop.

Thanks nice video man keep it up

Ubuntu introduced me to linux, i learned using the commandline there it came with pretty much everything i needed after the install and worked well, to have more free disk space i switched to arch but if someone askes me what distro i'd recommend for a linux beginner, i'll give him the ubuntu iso

Ubuntu was exciting once, Canonical had plans for the future that I could really get behind like device convergence which is what MIR and Unity was all about. I was looking forward to having my phone, tablet and desktop all using Ubuntu (Remember the crowd sourcing for Ubuntu Phone, it failed but was an awesome effort ) . Now in 2020 it's just another Distro. It's abandoned Unity and Ubuntu touch, As a company it's no longer visionary and is more focused preservation and protection of what it allready has.

Hello, I started out with kubuntu in 2011 and used it for like 2 years until i broke it. then i distro hopped and watched people hate ubuntu and canonical and started hating them too. i never really questioned myself if i'm right or just very wrong until this video in 2020. Thanks @DistroTube for this video. Now i wonder if i'd even be using linux today if it wasn't for ubuntu. i'll install ubuntu again and see if i really don't like it or if i love it. and i would give up this senseless hate towards people who use ubuntu. thanks again

Ok. Let's get this straight. I'm a Linux user for a long time. It doesn't matter what Linux based Distro you use it's the same. The only difference is package management and how optimized the DE/WM is. I run multiple systems with Ubuntu 18.04, Gentoo and Fedora 28 and I gotta say it's flawless. I use Fedora server for my up and running CS:GO and CS 1.6 server, I use gentoo on my main pc where I do all the gaming and spend my time in designing or developing and I use Ubuntu on my notebook where I just surf the Internet, do some coding and learning, etc. My point is every distro works. None of the distro is bad. Except for Arch I don't know what is the purpose of Arch. Thankyou for reading.

I just switched from Windows 7 to Ubuntu. But from this video I still didn't understand should I continue with Ubuntu or change to something else?

I think Ubuntu should offer a rolling release edition. The only thing i don't like about Ubuntu is the older packages in the repos, apart from this it is a great reliable distro. I also started and learned Linux on ubuntu, until i was curious to learn more and move on to other distros and to found out what i really like is to have the latest release of my packages and DE, so this is why now i prefer the rolling release model.

I agree with what you said, and I really like your theme of "If it works use it". I have that attitude as well and use what, for me WORKS. I didn't start on Ubuntu, but I have used it. I can't say I 'hate' ubuntu, but I don't like gnome. For me I use a distro called Q4OS. This uses Debian and the Trinity desktop. It works, it is very easy to use and set things up. I don't think there should be hate towards distros just because they do things different, but in life there is so much hate towards others who are different, and that is just so wrong too. Let people use what is good for them and stop the hating!

I'm sorry, DT I usually love all your video content and informed opinions, however I completely disagree when you said you believe having amazon keylogging services on ubuntu isn't spyware.

i love ubuntu and their project, i've tried and used daily bases Fedora (and love their vanilla gnome shell), Debian (and testing branch), OpenSUSE and Arch, and their forks, flavors and distros based on those. And a bunch of others that i've tested but not engage. agreed, it's not reasonable channel hat over such a project, we need more love and enthusiasm in our communities and projects.

I started on Ubuntu and moved away from it when they moved away from gnome 2. I still use Ubuntu based distributions, because of how stable and still easy it is. Got to say though: the Unity UI is absolute king if you want to get your grandpa or someone away from having their machine constantly break down to malware.

biggest error 13 year + ago, wifi connnected during install. unavailable after install, therefore no search available to find a fix. mostly works now. I hate all other than linux os's

I seriously got started in Linux with Ubuntu 10.04. I'm currently using 18.04 and 19.10 on different computers. I test other distros from time to time, but it really comes down to the fact that I spend my time using programs to get stuff done and play games. I think I'm over the 'grass is greener' syndrome for the most part. If a different distro suits someone else, why should I care?

On point with everything on this one. The stupid complaints people come up with are just moronic and childish.

Personally, I think Manjaro is a better "out of the box" system. I dont like the ppa system or snaps, and the ability to use the AUR if needed makes much much more sense than anything else. I also think that DEs like XFCE make for much better environments than Unity or Gnome. Obviously there is Xubuntu or other flavors, but I they dont seem to have the same support and arent as refined as the desktops on Manjaro.

Good vid. Good issues brought up. I use Ubuntu... just because it has a lot of browsers - built-in or available in their pkg manager. - Sure I could use a different distro, then go out of the way to find browsers... that may or may not work... but why bother when the ones avail. for Ubuntu are pretty much guaranteed to work?

I also started Linux desktop journey with Ubuntu in 2005, had not touched any mainstream not rolling distros since ~2012, imagine it is ok for a Dev to develop on it as it's same base as your deploy env. It's ok for a newcomer for doing basic stuff and getting grip of Linux, for me it was always this: recompiling half of an os coz some stuff that I wanted required recent libs etc. etc. Imagine it's different coz of snap, appimage etc. , (using containers is still waste of space both memory and storage), adding 100+ repos is also fun ;) so obviously I hopped luckily to manjaro wich I run on my main desktop to this day (same install about 8 years old) and I am very happy with it, recent enough and update cycle is excellent, each to their own. Conclusion: Linux whatever it's form is fantastic but some distros do their things better then the others for example keeping pace with active projects (shiny new things, big fps in games etc) or being predictable in theirs release cycle for devs and users that do not fancy diving deep into innards of the beast, thank You. P.s. English is not my native)

I started out on Ubuntu a few years ago, still running the installation (upgraded to newer versions obviously). But I love not getting any BSOD's any more. Only changed my desktop environment to KDE Plasma. Oh yes, and running the Xanmod kernel. :D

I'm glad that less intrusive and controversial distros, (like manjaro and mxlinux) that were the most used distros of 2019 over ubuntu

NIH == Didn't do any reading or Research (RoR). Excellent talk. Linux is about accessibility at its core from its inception; accessibility includes creativity in Linux by doctrine since its inception. Accessibility, creativity and opportunity all in the name of advancement through meaningful growth -> Linux.

The niche of Ubuntu is that it tries to be a Linux-Windows replacement instead of a good Linux distribution. It just won't serve you well if you want to leave your stable, enterprise shell and explore the world beyond. It has its own niche and it does it well. That's the point of having Linux distros: you get to do what you want. Some people need that stability and "it just works". It does that well, and so I call it "great software".

Been running Ubuntu since 2012 because of Mythbuntu ... because it just worked. So so so much better than the dependency hell of Slackware or every .rpm based distros I’d used before. Never used Unity desktop though. What is it?

Couldn't agree more.

I used to be a programmer so I'm not a complete novice with OS's. But half the time I update a Linux system I get a black screen. I'm beginning to think there are bad actors purposely making shady updates to crash your system so you have to go with a Windows or Apple system. I really wish I had more time to learn the intricacies of Linux. Unfortunately, I can't afford Linux and have to go with a more expensive OS.

Ubuntu is great for home use and perfect for learning Linux, but no one in large enterprises takes it seriously. It’s mostly RHEL and/or CentOS.

A bit more than 2 years later now. Ubuntu after being installed can't boot on many machines,. The Snap is more than buggy. You want to remove a program in Ubuntu software and can't do the job. They are always 9-10 messages in Logs pointing chronic problems that are never solved. Often messages on the calendar/time menu that says x program will be updated in 15 days, etc. etc. Debian (when you know what iso to take) works rock solid, no problem to install it. In fact if you download Debian's iso with non-free firmwares with the live version (with calameres) the installation is pretty fast and easy and works perfectly (without having to find what to modify in the bios).

In my opinion Ubuntu is harder to set up than Arch. Here is a little example: In order to set up full disk encryption for your Ubuntu system on a modern EFI machine (without using the automatic installer option, which reformats the whole drive and only knows one predefined partition scheme) you HAVE TO have an EFI system partition (no surprises there), a separate boot partition (which will contain GRUB) and you need to set up a LVM volume group inside the LUKS container even if you don't plan on using multiple partitions in the LUKS container. The reason Ubuntu needs a separate boot partition containing GRUB is really dumb: This is, because the Ubiquity installer automatically installs the ESP files to /boot/efi (cannot be changed in the UI) and it installs GRUB to whatever partition is chosen to be mounted at /boot (so you can't choose the ESP as target for the GRUB files). And the reason Ubuntu needs a LVM volume group inside the LUKS container is still unknown to me. Now comes the real kicker. Even if you partition and format everything correctly, the Ubiquity Installer will crash anyway. It finishes installing a full Ubuntu system, but crashes while installing GRUB, so you have to mount everything (including virtual file systems like /dev, /dev/pts, /proc, /sys), chroot into the system and install GRUB manually. How does setting up full disk encryption look like on Arch? You need an EFI system partition, optionally you can create a separate boot partition for GRUB, but you don't need to. Furthermore, you will need a partition for the LUKS container. If you plan on having more than one encrypted partition, you can set up LVM on LUKS (or LUKS on LVM), otherwise you don't need to set up LVM. Mount everything, pacstrap, mkinitcpio (with HOOKS adjusted according to whether you use LUKS, LVM on LUKS or LUKS on LVM), grub-install to your desired location (e.g. separate boot partition or EFI system partition), grub-mkconfig, done. No errors, no complications, no bugs, more options.

all i have to say is that as someone trying to leave windows, all of this makes the transition so annoying, so unpleasant, that i'm almost just giving up and opting to hack windows instead.

I agree. I am actually very grateful to canonical for making the platform much much more accessible.

Why should i trust a profit oriented company like canonical (or redhat and opensuse) if i have a non-profit option?

Thank DT for this amazing video. Everybody asks the same questions, how to make Linux better? Or how to make Linux more popular, it is an obvious answer, buy supporting the Linux companies like RHEL, Canonical and Suse, they are the ones that can take desktop to the other side of the river, I'm an Arch user my self, but arch, void, Gentoo or even mx Linux and mint are not going to get us anywhere.

Manjaro for life, long live KDE !

That "elitism" point is probably just banter. Look, people switch distros many many times, and of course promote their current one everywhere they can. It's just going to happen. Live with it. And the "it's going to wrong way" stuff is criticism, not hate. There's a massive difference. I think this is a problem that was never there.

I'm a big Fedora and Manjaro fan. Even though Fedora is a mild headache to setup because of Wifi drivers and the lack of a proper software store I like to use the flagship distro for GNOME or much of Linux and Manjaro everything works perfectly but it's a bloated mess and Pamac and AUR is a gift from the Gods. In Ubuntu I miss the AUR but aside from that the latest 19.10 is amazingly good considering performance always took a dive with previous Ubuntu and related distros. By the way, Wayland on my 2011 Macbook Pro works perfectly fine and I wish more distros made the transition.

Ubuntu is fine. I don't personally use it because I like a distro that doesn't change my settings much but for people who just want to use their computer without many configs its great.