Why Anakin Becoming a Jedi Knight Was So Controversial

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The Non-Canon Expert explains why the Jedi High Council's decision to promote Anakin Skywalker from Jedi Padawan to Jedi Knight during the Clone War was so controversial and an affront to generations of Jedi tradition.

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@TheVergile
@TheVergile 4 жыл бұрын
"you cannot become a knight unless you do the trials" "can i do the trials?" "no" "why not?" "the war" "i want to lead troops myself to help end the war" "no" "why not?" "you are not a knight"
@mr.g.2280
@mr.g.2280 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, that's what i got out of this, no wonder he lost his shit.
@Iliadic
@Iliadic 4 жыл бұрын
You should watch CinemaWins full Star Wars EGA series.
@DannyJaraMusic
@DannyJaraMusic 4 жыл бұрын
This is me trying to get a job lol
@Morg
@Morg 4 жыл бұрын
They cucked anakin
@onemoregodrejected9369
@onemoregodrejected9369 4 жыл бұрын
@@DannyJaraMusic Auch... you right, man. You said the exact thing I tought too. Cheers and good luck, tought :)
@skm2058
@skm2058 6 жыл бұрын
If hate made the sith stronger why didn't palpatine put sand on the inside of his helmet
@chrise1645
@chrise1645 6 жыл бұрын
RaginGNygmA underrated comment
@MikhaelAhava
@MikhaelAhava 6 жыл бұрын
WOW!
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 6 жыл бұрын
He probably did.........
@DMDCOFFICIAL
@DMDCOFFICIAL 6 жыл бұрын
RaginGNygmA it is actually known that Palestine made anakins suit very i confortable and filled with weaknesses and malfunctions!
@Kyradrin
@Kyradrin 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's lots of sand in "Palestine"
@jointchief7560
@jointchief7560 5 жыл бұрын
I don't care what the fandom thinks, Hayden played the perfect Jedi to manipulate and turn dark. He will always be under the mask when I see Vader.
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev 4 жыл бұрын
Hayden, yes. The screenwriters, no. TBH I'm not sure an absolute top-tier actor could have pulled off some of the awful lines they made him say.
@averagejoe9040
@averagejoe9040 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't that bad, but no one could make those lines work.
@CordobaGeneral1234
@CordobaGeneral1234 4 жыл бұрын
He did a terrific job!!! A lot of actors would’ve completely flopped that role!
@mysteryperson1958
@mysteryperson1958 4 жыл бұрын
Hayden was let down by a bad script. When he acts with body language he is fantastic.
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 3 жыл бұрын
Yup 👍
@pypy1986820
@pypy1986820 6 жыл бұрын
Actually. Anakin has a real risk of failing the official Trial of Spirit, and they should have at least administered that trial for Anakin. During the deep meditation of the trial, Anakin would probably confront his future self Darth Vader and come out of the trial being much more prepared for Palpatine's manipulations. In fact, the trial might be exactly what's needed to prevent the eventual Dark Side turn.
@205mohamad
@205mohamad 6 жыл бұрын
He kind of did, later on in the 2003 Clone Wars. Watch it, its worth it, all 3 seasons/2 volumes are on KZfaq.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking Ravenpy.
@jackass123455
@jackass123455 6 жыл бұрын
also he was the chosen one to bring BALANCE to the force did you ever stop to think that the force was out of balance in the favor of the light? therefore anakins turn to the dark side is what made him the chosen one. the betrayal of the jedi order killing all but a few jedi bought balance back to the force
@pypy1986820
@pypy1986820 6 жыл бұрын
Like Obiwan said in Episode 6, the Jedi's own point of view blinds them to the fact. They see themselves as balance and Sith as imbalance instead of Jedi as light Sith as dark while balance is somewhere in between. Therefore, Jedi never considered the possibility of the chosen one may not necessarily be a light side force user. Just as what Sidious pointed out, the Jedi's arrogance blinds them.
@jaycobvelasco3362
@jaycobvelasco3362 6 жыл бұрын
kyle hubner I think the same thing... 2 sith. More then a hundred jedi. That makes the most sense.
@4tracim
@4tracim 6 жыл бұрын
he did the trial of flesh he lost a arm
@darthsion3844
@darthsion3844 6 жыл бұрын
blitz ball boys lol coincidence.
@Kilory-Star_Wars
@Kilory-Star_Wars 6 жыл бұрын
"If not for me... for congratulatiooooooooooooons!" -Star Wars Reading Club, 2016, about Anakin, the Trial of Flesh, and Anakin's loss of his right arm to Count Dooku: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqppitiCx7_Dpnk.html.
@jonfoy6477
@jonfoy6477 6 жыл бұрын
And two legs..
@Kilory-Star_Wars
@Kilory-Star_Wars 6 жыл бұрын
+Jon foy Technically, that didn't happen until after Anakin became a Jedi Knight. In fact, that happened after Anakin became a Sith Lord: Darth Vader.
@erikschilasky2049
@erikschilasky2049 6 жыл бұрын
Jon foy and his other arm, the arm left is his already robo arm
@misterlinch7704
@misterlinch7704 6 жыл бұрын
Mace Windu not attending Anakin's knight ceremony must've caused a huge uproar with the council.
@jedigamer9935
@jedigamer9935 4 жыл бұрын
He was outside protesting.
@shadowsnake5133
@shadowsnake5133 4 жыл бұрын
He comes out of the bathroom confused on why everyone is mad, revealing he asked kit fisto to tell them to wait a minute while he goes, kit being ignored until he points out that mace wasn't there.
@Oodelally
@Oodelally 3 жыл бұрын
It was an animation error
@Smokeyourselfstraighttohell
@Smokeyourselfstraighttohell 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the reason the purple lightsaber isn't present is literally just an animator mistake
@simonvisage738
@simonvisage738 Жыл бұрын
@@Smokeyourselfstraighttohell ye but i guess cause of this. mace windu did not attend the knighting of anakin, rather he protested. Which is probably what he would do
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 6 жыл бұрын
Two things: 1. They were talking about the badass Grievous from Legends, not the incompetent "I better run away" Grievous of TCW fame. 2. Obi-Wan never passed his trials either, as far I know. "Killing" the first Sith in a millennium was enough for the Council.
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 6 жыл бұрын
The Show writers wanted to make Grievous less like a Vader clone. They probably wanted him to seem more like a Mafia boss compared to Vaders more Head on approach to things. Grievous was not a complete coward during the Clone wars. The Scene on the Malelovance where Grievous ambushed Kenobi
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 6 жыл бұрын
Tankdavid7 The intentions of the show writers are all well and good, but that doesn't help when I don't like the final product. It helps even less that I am used to a more frightening Grievous from Legends. He's no coward in TCW, no, but he still prefers to run away if he gets the chance.
@CedarHunt
@CedarHunt 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, they pretty much make Grievous a loser and a coward. He runs away every time anything starts looking like a fair fight and avoids combat any time he doesn't have overwhelming force. It's the fundamental issue with bringing characters that have to survive to the end of a series and pitting them against each other. Nobody can win or lose because they all have to be alive and active at the end of the day.
@sharkquisha3407
@sharkquisha3407 6 жыл бұрын
ImperialistOpinions Same thing with Boba Fett, and many other side characters.
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 6 жыл бұрын
Ness Boba Fett is a child/teen in TCW. That gives him quite some leeway in my opinion.
@noneof9900
@noneof9900 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Obi-Wan promoted to Knight early himself? With his defeat of Darth Maul, and the death of his master, wasn't his vanquishing of a Sith Lord judged sufficient to pass the trials?
@skelskeleton
@skelskeleton 6 жыл бұрын
The first sith lord in years in an era where jedi (admittedly arrogantly) assumed the sith order was extinct or at the very least never going to be an open threat. So Obi-Wan technically killed the first sith lord in ages in a time period where the jedi had started to calm down and just ignore the sith in general. He was also a padawan who witnessed his master get cut down in cold blood yet he didnt become angry and let the dark side consume him, he kept his cool.
@alexanderchristopher6237
@alexanderchristopher6237 5 жыл бұрын
@Rydekk yeah, but he didn't fall to the Dark Side, unlike Asajj Ventress who turned to the Dark Side completely after her master's death.
@TheVergile
@TheVergile 4 жыл бұрын
tho he wasnt granted the rank of knight for defeating darth maul. they were impressed by how he reached unity with the force for a short moment during that fight, even though he just lost his master. So for him it was not just a test of skill.
@Tay-be4ew
@Tay-be4ew 4 жыл бұрын
Qui gon also advocated for obi-wan to become a knight saying “there’s little he can learn from me”
@TheVergile
@TheVergile 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel meh. the rule of two is just one perspective. from the majority of siths point of view he wouldve been a sith lord
@rjallenbach1
@rjallenbach1 6 жыл бұрын
If he had went through the Jedi trials like he was supposed to, he would have learned the importance of always having the high ground
@monsterovich
@monsterovich 6 жыл бұрын
You are on this order, but we do not grant your the rank of Knight. TAKE. A. SEAT.
@ericwalsh2954
@ericwalsh2954 5 жыл бұрын
So is he basically just the 17 year old sitting at the kids table during a wedding
@nightmarefox4070
@nightmarefox4070 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericwalsh2954 Yes.But without the kids.
@ascensiongenesis_sigma
@ascensiongenesis_sigma 5 жыл бұрын
@@nightmarefox4070 because he killed them
@nightmarefox4070
@nightmarefox4070 5 жыл бұрын
@@ascensiongenesis_sigma for the high ground.
@smallllallalalala
@smallllallalalala 4 жыл бұрын
This is outragous! It's unfair!
@eggs712
@eggs712 6 жыл бұрын
He should have completed the sand trials.
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 6 жыл бұрын
There is actually an example of a sand trial taking place. See here: m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrpxi7iKsciqiZ8.html
@mychaelmay6321
@mychaelmay6321 6 жыл бұрын
eggs712 I was the 66th like......... Palpatine: Good, goooooooooood.....
@leonardoeras7962
@leonardoeras7962 6 жыл бұрын
The high ground trials.....
@ThatGuy16697
@ThatGuy16697 6 жыл бұрын
*edgelord intesifies*
@patrickpettyjr.3134
@patrickpettyjr.3134 6 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@timerift0
@timerift0 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Obi-Wan made a Knight under similar circumstances? As a Padawan "killing" Darth Maul after watching his master be killed.
@ItsARandomEncounter
@ItsARandomEncounter 6 жыл бұрын
timerift0 the big difference is the test of mind. We could argue that Obi Wan, even after witnessing the killing of his master, kept composure and kept to his jedi ideals. Anakin however, failed the test å multitude of times: Padme, the sandpeople, one could Even argue he failed the test in the clone war cartoon; og warned him of his future self and the lure of the dark side. But after the trial, anakin stil used the dark side on the seperatists on the planet.
@zeroattentiongaming820
@zeroattentiongaming820 6 жыл бұрын
True but isn't Obi-Wan the poster boy for what a jedi should be? Even in TPM he was more of a "classic" jedi than Qui Gon
@QixTheDS
@QixTheDS 6 жыл бұрын
he didn't turn to the dark side. one can use the dark side without turning to it/falling to it
@magatetus
@magatetus 6 жыл бұрын
High Ground
@Tenpi000
@Tenpi000 6 жыл бұрын
Even Obi-One had feelings for someone, I can't remember who. But there was lore about it in the middle of the clone wars series. He was obviously able to control his feelings a lot better then Anakin however.
@ryanmcintee
@ryanmcintee 4 жыл бұрын
Obi Wan actually didnt take the trials either. He was granted the rank of knight for being the first person to kill a Sith in over a millennia
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's kind of a weak reasoning tbh, as Sith killed each other on a regular basis, and I don't think that makes them good material to be a Jedi.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
...and it turns out he didn't actually kill Maul. He's still alive in TCW series.
@MouldMadeMind
@MouldMadeMind 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrewPicklesTheDark that only means the jedi have to fight the strong ones.
@xendordawnburst9969
@xendordawnburst9969 6 жыл бұрын
No wonder Anakin was so upset at not getting Master!
@TioMegamanX
@TioMegamanX 6 жыл бұрын
He should have seen that as a mere title.
@scottgrasser9737
@scottgrasser9737 6 жыл бұрын
yea was kind of bull when you think about it he just defeated dooku and saved palpatine and the councle rather then reward that are like....yea but you are a bit of a shit so no promotion for you
@syzorst
@syzorst 6 жыл бұрын
You people misunderstand the importance of being a Jedi Master. It takes more than just skill. You also need wisdom which is something Anakin lacked. He was extremely talented and skill but also young and naive.
@dimercenary3090
@dimercenary3090 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Doc He also lacked the maturity and self-control expected of Jedi Masters.
@Jack-kx5rf
@Jack-kx5rf 5 жыл бұрын
Anakin was upset about not being promoted to Master because it would have allowed him to access the restricted section of the Jedi archives, which would have held some secrets to keep Padme alive during childbirth. Also, for his age, Anakin was actually very wise. He wouldn't have been able to defeat Count Dooku with just his skill. The council wouldn't have let Anakin lead the 501st, the best clone troopers in the galaxy if they thought him to be "naive".
@obi-wankenobi8406
@obi-wankenobi8406 6 жыл бұрын
Well he was skillful
@utoresa5193
@utoresa5193 6 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi and he was a good friend?
@salasanteri
@salasanteri 6 жыл бұрын
Was he your brother and did you love him?
@danyheatleyall-star3677
@danyheatleyall-star3677 6 жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan Kenobi did you have the high ground?
@maddoxcindy5017
@maddoxcindy5017 6 жыл бұрын
Did you underestimate his power?
@gpweb01
@gpweb01 6 жыл бұрын
Was he seduced by the dark side?
@toasega
@toasega 4 жыл бұрын
Other Jedi: Become Knights. Anakin: Becomes a Knight. Jedi Order: Wait that's illegal
@franciszhao6923
@franciszhao6923 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Jedi Trials don't necessarily have to be formally administered tests, the way they are written in the Jedi Texts suggests that the trials could also be obstacles encountered and surpassed in life. For example, trial of skill could be completing a particularly dangerous mission. Trial of flesh could be overcoming the loss of a loved one, or in Anakin's case, an arm (literally flesh). Trial of courage could be facing a Sith Lord, both of which Anakin and Obiwan did as Padawan learners, and etc. Yoda even says right before Anakin gets knighted in the original cartoon, "all that remains, trial of spirit, is" or something like that. Trial of spirit was the thing that Luke did on Dagobah in the tree where he fought his own worst fears "facing your reflection." This suggests that at some point Anakin had already done tasks considered to meet the requirements of most of the trials.
@franciszhao6923
@franciszhao6923 6 жыл бұрын
oh fuck never mind shoulda finished the video before commenting
@Deamon93IT
@Deamon93IT 6 жыл бұрын
The Jedi Order freezed in time, it didn't even bother to evolve. That was the primary cause of its downfall, plus of course the fact they had to face a crisis without the necessary training(they were peacekeepers and not warriors, like the pre Reformation Order)
@crazysam871
@crazysam871 5 жыл бұрын
Their biggest flaw was their inability to perform their duty as commanders of the clone army. Most Jedi had no training in military strategies and command functions, yet were always given general of admiral positions, leading to many tactical mistakes. That probably pissed a lot of people in the military, adding to the general dislike on the Jedi.
@benjaminbierley2074
@benjaminbierley2074 5 жыл бұрын
@@crazysam871 Which was of course Palpatine's intent putting them into a position they were ill suited for and that would lead to them not only making mistakes, compromises, but also would bleed their numbers as the war raged on. He also knew that their feeling of moral superiority would lead them to take on the position without adequately second guessing their suitability for it because they believed themselves to be the most powerful "protectors" of the republic. He recognized they were compromised well before the clone wars with the nature and outcomes of crisis-es they inserted themselves into, sometimes taking the side of and being pawns of the amoral side of conflicts without ever realizing it (or one could argue caring), inserting them into the clone wars was just him having them do what they had been doing on a larger scale.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbierley2074 Just to thank you for this comment. This is what I have been saying for ages. The Jedi had been acting as pawns of the Senate, taking sides in wars and sometimes supporting manifestly unjust and immoral causes long before TCW. They were severely compromised.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazysam871 Mace Windu for example was an excellent duelist but kind of sucked as a strategist. There's a video about how 85% of the Jedi sent to the battle of Geonosis died because he and Yoda sent knights and their inexperienced Padawans into battle against a vastly larger force without waiting for reinforcements.
@francisco4benites
@francisco4benites 6 жыл бұрын
Aka Mace Windu didn't want him to be a knight cuz he doesnt like anikin do to him being apart of the prophecy while mace believe he was the true chosen one not anikin
@alexanderchristopher6237
@alexanderchristopher6237 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez, why do I felt like Snoke is Mace Windu? In a bad way. "I can't be the Chosen One, so I'll screw your family, Ani." Maybe that's why he isn't a Force Ghost, since Anakin, without the training Obi-Wan and Yoda did, became a Force ghost after being Darth Vader for awhile.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchristopher6237 I believe Qui Gon basically showed Yoda how to become a Force Ghost. He did not have any training, he discovered the path himself, because the implication was he was so close to the force. Qui Gon always had a soft spot for Anakin, and it was he and Obi Wan who told him how to become a force ghost in his last moments.
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 3 жыл бұрын
@@englishlady9797 imagine those kids becoming force ghosts
@germanshepherd2701
@germanshepherd2701 5 жыл бұрын
In my headcanon, the Clone Wars lasted 5 years, with Anakin being a padawan for 2 years. The war would’ve matured him more, and with a dwindling amount of Jedi and Anakin’s level of power, the Council decided to knight him. Not long after, perhaps some months or so, he’d then receive Ahsoka as his own padawan to further help and temper him (along with continuing to keep him close to Obi-Wan lol).
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 3 жыл бұрын
actually, I'd perosnally think it would make the most sense if he was knighted 1 year in and the 3D series lasted 4
@germanshepherd2701
@germanshepherd2701 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebravegallade731 I’m good with that too! I also thought about that, 1 year until knighthood and 4 years of war total. That or 2 years until knighthood and 5 years of war. Or honestly a mix, like 1 year until knighthood but still 5 years of war. Either I think it makes sense to be knighted fairly quickly because 1) need new knights for the war effort, 2) he passed trials especially when he already faced Dooku, etc. etc. So yeah, I like your timeline too. Either one works for me, so long as the war lasts longer than 3 years!
@samwayne8961
@samwayne8961 6 жыл бұрын
I HAVE BROUGHT PEACE, FREEDOM, JUSTICE AND SECURITY TO MY NEW EMPIRE
@jayive34
@jayive34 6 жыл бұрын
Your new Empire?
@orppranator5230
@orppranator5230 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t make me destroy you.
@cerebros3671
@cerebros3671 4 жыл бұрын
Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!
@trevornorton5297
@trevornorton5297 4 жыл бұрын
Cerebros36 if you’re not with me, you’re my enemy...
@goosesatan
@goosesatan 4 жыл бұрын
only a sith deals in absolutes, i will do what i must-
@Corristo89
@Corristo89 6 жыл бұрын
The point of the trials was to test how strong a potential Jedi Knight was in character and how well he/she would resist the desire to give in to anger or fear. The goal wasn't to change the character. Anakin's character had on the other hand drastically changed over the course of the Clone Wars, shaping him into a powerful Jedi and leader, but also into a violent, impulsive and reckless warrior who craved conflict to test himself.
@randymarshusa2928
@randymarshusa2928 6 жыл бұрын
A true saiyan
@Tyrosine0910
@Tyrosine0910 6 жыл бұрын
Zack, those traits are likely present in most Jedi, but that ignores a very important factor: how strongly they reside in each Jedi. These traits were often defining traits of Anakin, rather than fleeting feelings that are highly controllable through discipline, as was the case for most Jedi who passed their trials &, especially, those who were masters and/or on the council.
@Tyrosine0910
@Tyrosine0910 6 жыл бұрын
*Zaco, not Zack. Autocorrect is obnoxious.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe Obi Wan was knighted without undertaking the formal trials. He had knighthood bestowed upon him for killing a Sith. Anakin also fought a Sith (Dooku), and saved his master from being killed by him. So, does that count?
@TheSacredOtaku
@TheSacredOtaku 6 жыл бұрын
You and Star Wars Theory need to do acollab like you 2 are my go to for Star Wars info great video SW reading Club
@DomeMoon
@DomeMoon 6 жыл бұрын
Zane Bendel have you heard pf stupendous wave?
@ErickReyesRomeroBanks
@ErickReyesRomeroBanks 5 жыл бұрын
Star wars theory is trash
@zero5496
@zero5496 5 жыл бұрын
what the council was really thinking "screw this kid, hes just lucky nothing more, we are the true champion of the force"
@tiffanypersaud3518
@tiffanypersaud3518 4 жыл бұрын
Zero, agreed.
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus 4 жыл бұрын
So it was Obi-Wan who broke the years of jedi traditions? Another happy landing.
@KyloFeelsYourPain
@KyloFeelsYourPain 6 жыл бұрын
Anakin is my FAVORITE!
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 6 жыл бұрын
Ikr?!
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 6 жыл бұрын
They were morons. Especially Mace. But he was just jealous of Anakin from the start. He didn't like the Fact that somewhere more powerful than him came along. It is their OWN fault that Anakin resented the order by the end of the war. Like I said, they were complete morons, they handled their "savior" absolutely horribly. He was the chosen one of the force itself and you idiots cry about him even being knighted???? He was ALREADY stronger than ALL of you !! Yea, like I said, It was their own incompetent fault that he resented them by ROTS. And they were all slaughtered for it so oh well lol.
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 8 ай бұрын
While Anakin was very talented, he had some discipline issues. On top of that he was in a secret relationship with Padme. That alone would have gotten him kicked out of the Jedi Order. It was understandable why Anakin was in a relationship with Padme. Anakin needed emotional support which the Jedi couldn’t provide.
@carthonasi9374
@carthonasi9374 6 жыл бұрын
Jedi are weird
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 6 жыл бұрын
Carth Onasi what do you expect they're a religious order that control a mysterious power that no one but them understands and have had multiple schisms that caused galaxy wide conflict its only natural they'd have strange esoteric rituals that most people including them barely understand the meaning behind anymore
@scoots291
@scoots291 6 жыл бұрын
I know you right. they can't open emails either because they can't have attachments
@nikoletxdee8949
@nikoletxdee8949 6 жыл бұрын
Carth Onasi why arę you not cannon with Revan
@carthonasi9374
@carthonasi9374 6 жыл бұрын
nikolet xDee that's beyond my control
@joshuaking9408
@joshuaking9408 6 жыл бұрын
Wanna talk about the Mandalorian War yet Carth?
@liammcquaid4776
@liammcquaid4776 5 жыл бұрын
The Jedi Trials also provided training on how to overcome the high ground.
@zacharyrose7217
@zacharyrose7217 6 жыл бұрын
If you watch just the movies you think Anakin was cheated out but listening to all these different pieces of info you kinda see that the high council were kinda a bunch of assholes. Especially Windu (even tho he's still my all time favorite character)
@marty644
@marty644 6 жыл бұрын
He's a piece of shit
@Vietmac1993
@Vietmac1993 8 ай бұрын
The council did bring up great points. Anakin was no doubt was extremely talented but he had some discipline issues.
@magallanthepenguin9132
@magallanthepenguin9132 6 жыл бұрын
what is a Jedi Knight exactly other than it's a rank up than padawan level? is jedi knights granted more privileges or it's just a title?
@mikkelturtvig
@mikkelturtvig 6 жыл бұрын
they loose the braid
@chrise1645
@chrise1645 6 жыл бұрын
mikkelturtvig huh?
@mikkelturtvig
@mikkelturtvig 6 жыл бұрын
padawans wear a braid to symbolize their rank, upon reaching the rank of knight the braid is removed in a knighting ceremony
@chrise1645
@chrise1645 6 жыл бұрын
mikkelturtvig Okay thanks for that explanation! But what's the significance of Anakin ranking up? He'd kick ass whether padawan or Jedi knight, right?
@mikkelturtvig
@mikkelturtvig 6 жыл бұрын
it was more a symbolic thing. it meant he would be allowed to do missions without his master and that was a red flag for the jedi council since Anakin was considered a somewhat volatile individual lacking the self control needed for the rank of knight
@TheBohobemeister
@TheBohobemeister 6 жыл бұрын
As always, wonderful video Star Wars Reading Club!
@aronsingh6513
@aronsingh6513 6 жыл бұрын
I've always loved your sign outs, but that one was my favourite! :) haha
@masterdonut5
@masterdonut5 3 жыл бұрын
I just got to say that the thumbnail is awesome I honestly want my next birthday cake to look just like that LOL
@grahamyodude
@grahamyodude 6 жыл бұрын
This video just made me understand Star Wars on a wayyyyy deeper level than you guys are ready for me to explain rn
@ee8942
@ee8942 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos Are very interesting. Good job
@cainabel6356
@cainabel6356 6 жыл бұрын
He failed at controlling his emotions. He would have failed the trial of spirit, if he took it. Then he would have to repeat it and learn to control his emotions. That would probably clear up the future he saw of Padme dying. He would have probably seen the truth on how it would happen and saw what he would become. Then he would not have fallen when he met up with Mace and Sidious.
@dannykringle554
@dannykringle554 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video!!! I love watching you!
@shawnstankiewicz6244
@shawnstankiewicz6244 6 жыл бұрын
I can see the reasons for some High Council members would have a problem with Anakin being made a Jedi Knight without the trials but the trials in my opinion were a test of Skills in battle ,Spiritual discipline and mental. To prepare young Jedi for missions that would test the abilities in a mostly peaceful Galaxy. Tho once the Clone Wars started Anakin proved time and again to be clearly more skilled than many of the Jedi Masters only falling short in discipline but Im sure in past times of War Jedi were promoted from Padawan to knighthood without Trials.
@DeimosTheDude
@DeimosTheDude 4 жыл бұрын
First glance at the thumbnail i thought Anakin was mad about his birthday cake.
@aaaaaad6318
@aaaaaad6318 6 жыл бұрын
could you do a video about the trials of knighthood, maybe explain how they worked and some examples. thanks for the great videos
@SarahAndreaRoycesChannel
@SarahAndreaRoycesChannel 6 жыл бұрын
It is fun how much the war lowered their standards. They declared their wrongdoing on Ashoka her trials in hindsight to get her back. Not much of what she experienced there would fall into one of the five categories. Yet obviously after 5 seasons she had similar war related experience than Anakin (and many other padawans).
@sethmiles9436
@sethmiles9436 6 жыл бұрын
So when did Obi-Wan join the Jedi Council?
@onkami7981
@onkami7981 6 жыл бұрын
Razh 80 joined it before I don’t think it says what time
@patrickgracias5782
@patrickgracias5782 5 жыл бұрын
Gangsta Berleezy he was a Jedi Knight during attack of the clones and was a master during the clone wars and episode 3
@THOMAS2910able
@THOMAS2910able 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgracias5782 are Jedi Knights allowed padawans?
@patrickgracias5782
@patrickgracias5782 4 жыл бұрын
Pineapple Pioneer Jedi Knights can take on an apprentice but if they are invited to sit on the council, they are no longer the master of said apprentice. That’s why Anakin was no longer Obi Wan’s apprentice in the clone wars and rots.
@SayMyName316
@SayMyName316 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickgracias5782 apprentice and padawan are two different thing for both sides even tho they mean the same, buh padawans are for jedi and apprentice are for Siths don't confuse apprentice for sith as you may label a tru a sith lord for owning an apprentice
@Deckinickinic
@Deckinickinic 5 жыл бұрын
When not giving merit when merit was due, it only increases the doubt within the individuals, and leads them to hate those around them who have wrongly accused them.
@AHersheyHere
@AHersheyHere 5 жыл бұрын
It's really good the pre-qual covered this topic...
@raghuvarv
@raghuvarv 6 жыл бұрын
Splendid work as always.
@kaleeshmatriarch455
@kaleeshmatriarch455 6 жыл бұрын
Informative video!! 🙂👍
@arega1s830
@arega1s830 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that for many of the padawans during The Clone Wars, their trials should have been going out and completing various mission during this conflict. A sort of 'on the job training' if you will.
@hectorhernandez4953
@hectorhernandez4953 5 жыл бұрын
I thought either what happened on Nelvaan or Mortis would have been his Trial of Spirit.
@thattypicalslimy8548
@thattypicalslimy8548 4 жыл бұрын
Happened after he had a Padawan for a while.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 4 жыл бұрын
One point never really discussed is what do you do with a padawan as powerful as Anakin if he fails his trials? Kill him? Strip him of his powers? Kick him out? Passing the trials doesn't mean you are immune to the dark side (Dooku, Krayt) so what's the big deal? Look at it from a real world standpoint. If you have a regular fast food worker doing a managers job while the manager sits on his ass, then they have every right to go work for someone else.
@user-qd9rg3wy2n
@user-qd9rg3wy2n 4 жыл бұрын
Watched video of clone wars 2003 where Anakin became Knight and immediately this showed up
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the knighting of Qui Gon And Quinlan Vos were just as controversial since they both are mavericks themselves
@cpt.trapper8058
@cpt.trapper8058 6 жыл бұрын
What about the droid attack on the Wookies?
@briannaweeks6357
@briannaweeks6357 6 жыл бұрын
I bet the other padawans in anakins cohort loved this! Haha. And didn’t obi wan getting granted the rank of knight by defeating darth maul instead of going through the trials? Apprentice like master! But it also shows once again how the clone wars allowed palpatine to get in there and start shaking things up and breaking things down. Great video
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 Жыл бұрын
Was expecting this to be about the controversy involving WHEN he got knighted in Legends, especially with The Clone Wars 2008 series muddying up the timelines.
@donovaneverett5804
@donovaneverett5804 4 жыл бұрын
Where is Mace Windu during The Knighting of Anikan at the end of the video?
@zaimahalam7693
@zaimahalam7693 6 жыл бұрын
I got a Star Wars ad before this.
@ericb9931
@ericb9931 6 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Obiwan becoming a Jedi Knight and Master
@christianwilliams4511
@christianwilliams4511 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the thumbnail from?
@elonol2549
@elonol2549 6 жыл бұрын
great explanation! thanks!
@starwarsreadingclub
@starwarsreadingclub 6 жыл бұрын
Not a problem at all Sincera, thank you for the support. I hope that you enjoy the upcoming videos as well. :)
@adminholly
@adminholly 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on what would happen if anakin wasn't turned to the dark side
@autisticjoeyyo
@autisticjoeyyo 4 жыл бұрын
I knew Palpatine suggested Anakin be on the Jedi Council, but I DIDN’T know that he also suggested Anakin be a Jedi Knight. Thx for this video bro
@ezekielfisher8974
@ezekielfisher8974 4 жыл бұрын
How long do the trials take? Why didn’t he just take them when the request was made for anakins elevation in rank
@devil1538
@devil1538 3 жыл бұрын
So what happen to those after order 66
@Patman0074
@Patman0074 6 жыл бұрын
What was up with the pictures of Thrawn?
@mondoleon1471
@mondoleon1471 3 жыл бұрын
Ok um I thought the chancellor requested Anikan become his personal representative on the jedi council ? Didn’t they allow him to join the council but the rank of jedi master ? Is that right ?
@mandickthetittysmithy5117
@mandickthetittysmithy5117 6 жыл бұрын
Anakin completed the trial of the flesh when he lost his arm to count Dooku.
@tipperary4525
@tipperary4525 6 жыл бұрын
Elfan Waltz haha
@lillevi444
@lillevi444 6 жыл бұрын
Elfan Waltz lol
@horrocko
@horrocko 6 жыл бұрын
The fancy-robed guy in the background at 3:30 is Snoke, right?
@ilo3456
@ilo3456 6 жыл бұрын
horrocko That is an Umbaran, and it is a she,
@Nariel7
@Nariel7 6 жыл бұрын
It's Palpatine's aide Sly Moore.
@BlueDragonKnight77
@BlueDragonKnight77 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the thumbnail was a Jedi themed birthday cake
@clamchowder7609
@clamchowder7609 4 жыл бұрын
Obi wans arguement is literally me for every exam
@airplanenojutsu
@airplanenojutsu 6 жыл бұрын
So why did they not just have him go through the trials? Surely its important enough to recall him from the front lines for a little bit.
@voodazz
@voodazz 4 жыл бұрын
Trial of the Flesh? I like the sound of that. Giggity.
@harrywoolnough9329
@harrywoolnough9329 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know who the girl at 2:00 is
@MrTohawk
@MrTohawk 6 жыл бұрын
Was it also controversial amongst his fellow padawan? Or would they get similar treatment too? After all one more knight, even Anakin, would not make much of a difference.
@frankdees507
@frankdees507 6 жыл бұрын
MrTohawk I doubt they even got the same consideration he did having been standout gifted during the clone wars. Even so, it's certain the supreme chancellor was not speaking on their behalf.
@Kareszkoma
@Kareszkoma 6 жыл бұрын
He didn't have fellow padawans. When he started his training he was much older than the others. He was 9, they were 4-5. Pretty much this followed him and a couple years later he was by the side of Obi-Wan. Than a couple adventures, the Clone Wars started and he was a military personnel, rather than a Jedi. All his spared time was spent to meet with his wife. Remember how big and tall he is? It's not enough that the only time he could be with same age, somewhat same looking padawans, passed do to the war. But even as a Jedi/Padawan he sticked out a lot. Much better with lightsaber, force, maturity. Look at the other padawans. Some is 14, some is 20, but none of them come close to how Anakin was. An adult, an outsider. He already looked like a knight. Every time we see other padawans, nobody knows him. No Jedi beside the Council. Even though he was a padawan a couple years ago, none recognises him. Because he never met with anyone. Other Jedi/Padawan spend their time in the Order, being trained together, living together, searching the libraries, training and taking trials together.
@Dr_Bille
@Dr_Bille 6 жыл бұрын
That's actually a bit sad
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 6 жыл бұрын
MamboJambo What are you even talkin about..... That is dead wrong. He definitely had "fellow padawans" , do you actually think there was just nobody else in the entire Jedi order that were 9-10 years old at the same time HE was?? Dude......Go read the Obi-Wan and Anakin series. It literally has a segment/scene where he flips out on his -- ya know -- FELLOW PADAWANS, and uses the force to turn off their sabers in their hands and pull them to him, and they're astounded how strong he already is and how he is able to do that, and they run away. Then he gets yelled at by Obi-Wan because he did it all in front of Obi-Wan, Mace, and the Chancellor... It's the first time Palpatine saw him in action and became insanely interested in him. It's literally where it ALL started...... Idk where the hell you got that "there were no other padawans" other than him at the time. He doesn't have to be there as a youngling with other younglings for them to be there too, They were STILL there when he got there and became a padawan, That literally made absolutely no sense at all. You're a moron.
@lordofpain3476
@lordofpain3476 6 жыл бұрын
Daz , I believe that Mambo meant that Anakin didn't have other padawan contemporaries . Indeed there were many other padawans at the time , but none of them were his equals in power or life experience. Plus , most of them stayed in the temple until they were older , while Anakin spent a lot of his time on missions with Obi Wan . I read in one of the novel's ( I can't remember which one . ) that although many of the other padawans had met Anakin , most of them only really knew him by his already growing reputation. Honestly , while most of the padawans his own age were basically learning the early basics Anakin was blowing up the Trade Federation control ship . Although it technically wasn't his fault , he never really fit in with the other padawans ( except for a small few .) But none of that really matters at the moment because we don't know what Disney will keep in canon and what they will make up as they move on .
@leonardoeras7962
@leonardoeras7962 6 жыл бұрын
What about the high ground trials? That would have been useful...
@Necr0Fenix
@Necr0Fenix 6 жыл бұрын
anakin failed the trial of flesh... when he banged padme :p
@Necr0Fenix
@Necr0Fenix 6 жыл бұрын
u think the trial of flesh is actualy taking the padawans to a strip club?
@Tyrosine0910
@Tyrosine0910 6 жыл бұрын
I think he passed when Padme tied him to her bed, & he didn't lose his mind, despite her continual sexual teasing in the form of an entire night spent with her performing various sexual acts on him for hours without letting him finish. She used those special blue ropes that can't be torn through use of the force to restrain him, so he was really stuck where he was.
@lordofpain3476
@lordofpain3476 6 жыл бұрын
Anakin faced and won the trials in real life instead of some contrived test administered by a group of inferior masters ( they were too stuck in archaic tradition. ) They were all jealous of him . They had absolutely no problem sending him on the most dangerous missions , but didn't want him to advance. Just another example of why the evil and corrupt Jedi met the fate that they brought upon themselves.
@porsorodis7985
@porsorodis7985 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! You are amazing! I love you!
@slicer940
@slicer940 6 жыл бұрын
See in the clone wars (2008) it seems as if he was knighted right after geonosis
@Lewiss7423
@Lewiss7423 4 жыл бұрын
Am I wrong in thinking the picture in the beginning was Thrawn, not Anakin?
@caijones156
@caijones156 3 жыл бұрын
OK does this fit in with TCW or is It just legend's that overrides it? Since if it was during the clone wars it would have to be between geonosis and christophsis and I was always under the impression that those events were close together
@cobeoe
@cobeoe 4 жыл бұрын
What about the trial of insight that was a fourth trial he didn't pass forgot to even take for that matter
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 4 жыл бұрын
Surely the controversy over Anakin getting the rank of Knight is all about Palpatine making the appointment and not the Jedi council; specially when he displayed so many dark side traits.
@IzzyG2k18
@IzzyG2k18 5 жыл бұрын
Dang who's the jedi at 2:13 lol😂😂
@Memehoardercatwoofdogmeow
@Memehoardercatwoofdogmeow 4 жыл бұрын
They wanted to see how mad he can get.
@321gman3
@321gman3 6 жыл бұрын
I love how they say there were a low number of Jedi when there were 10,000 in the order, and it states in one of the Clone Wars episodes, the one where Sing is trying to assassinate Padme, that only 63 Jedi had died so far. So where are these "low" numbers coming from?
@LumenP1023
@LumenP1023 6 жыл бұрын
The Republic spans an entire GALAXY. 10,000 strong is nothing when even talking about an international organization on Earth, let alone an entire galaxy
@murphyjack90
@murphyjack90 2 жыл бұрын
10,000 in an Galaxy is miniscule, and the number of Jedi who'd be earmarked for combat duty with the GAR would be even smaller. Remember the 10,000 includes archivists, Temple guardians, trainers, younglings etc Those dead 63 could be more than half the orders combat ready knights and masters. I wouldn't be surprised if others like Anakin were being rushed through training to make up for the losses.
@caplevi148
@caplevi148 4 жыл бұрын
How is getting your arm cut off the trial of flesh ? Obi failed as a teacher there , trying to rush his student into mastery and placing in his head that he was ready . Wouldn’t the trial of the flesh be mor a kin to the trial of ones desires and how blinding it can be but idk just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽
@taylorking7467
@taylorking7467 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like there is a gap in their trials
@taylorking7467
@taylorking7467 3 жыл бұрын
A solid sith could pass all the trials if it was unbiased
@whichDude
@whichDude 3 жыл бұрын
Weird thumbnail. I saw was Anakin staring in disgust at a birthday cake.
@wsamkelley
@wsamkelley 5 жыл бұрын
0:33 why is there Thron
@rileym411
@rileym411 5 жыл бұрын
It's not Thron it Trohn
@ginantsfan5
@ginantsfan5 6 жыл бұрын
Most awesome vid!!!!!!!!!
@zancospancos
@zancospancos 6 жыл бұрын
When even padawans fight how does it make a difference whether he's promoted or not? He'd be fighting regardless and additional responsibility could be delegated to him anyway.
@CharlieAlphaTV
@CharlieAlphaTV 6 жыл бұрын
The order deserved to burn. There. finally somebody said it... 🔥
@erikwilliams5684
@erikwilliams5684 6 жыл бұрын
Very Good Video!!! ☺👍
@craigm2520
@craigm2520 6 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered why they didnt reattach Anakins arm. It was a clean cut and right on the floor not like Luke's hand which fell. Also with the technology they had which was suppose to be more advanced then our own it would seem it shouldn't have been an issue.
@thesaturdaytechchannelwith553
@thesaturdaytechchannelwith553 6 жыл бұрын
3:24 *End titles intensives*
@anakinsolo719
@anakinsolo719 3 жыл бұрын
Did TCW completely do away with the battle of Praesitlyn? It was Anakin single-handedly saving the Republic outpost on Praesitlyn that was the catalyst for him being Knighted.
@Joemight13
@Joemight13 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprise that that moon was not familiar to Darth Vader
@CE77777
@CE77777 4 жыл бұрын
That trial of spirit was ver key and he did not pass it properly, likely what lead to his fall
@unknown404x
@unknown404x 6 жыл бұрын
Sae thumbnail on my phone and I somenow knew the last word was "controversial".
@matth6762
@matth6762 6 жыл бұрын
The only question i have after this is, did any other padawans get knighted this way during the clone wars?
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