SEQUELS OUT NOW: If you enjoyed this video, check out the update videos I've posted following the Wave 6 teaser! Both featuring actual live video feed of my IRL face (real) (not fake) (not clickbait)! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mL2Gg6mXusDWZJs.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7mca6d0l9u-c4k.html If I know you personally, please don't get upset if you weren't in the Special Thanks and Shout-outs at the end. I included people who influenced my course predictions in some way or otherwise bolstered me to get into video creation, and there were multiple people that I just straight-up forgot to include. I love you all ❤ PREDICTION UPDATES: 20:46 - Bumping both double GCN scenarios into the "Very doubtful" tier, removing the "Kinda stupid" tier, with Bridge at the top and the jungles right behind it. Upon further consideration, I realise that the thought of getting both jungles in Wave 6 suffers from the same big issue as Bridge - the question of why they didn't just leave Moonview in Wave 6, and Cnsw_56 in Wave 5? The dev team can do whatever they want; they won't let themselves be worked into a corner like this. As I stated in the video, the Cnsw_63 prefix change proves as much. And as for Bridge, its inclusion in Wave 6 would mandate it and Bowser Castle 3 both being in the Acorn Cup - you can't tell me they'd put Bridge in Spiny or two GCNs in a single Cup - and that's just plain dumb. That's two relatively flat courses that have SNES layouts, probably one after the other. I don't think so.
@justanotheruser1542 Жыл бұрын
Opinion on 🪑
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
@justanotheruser1542 absolutely
@stephenrichter894011 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on the chance of new items implemented in the last wave? There's still gaps on the custom item page and custom items would allow people to only play with them if they want, although I'm not sure which ones they would even add. Maybe some of the double dash or easily implemented tour items like the bowser shell or egg or something.
@sayikoo502311 ай бұрын
@@stephenrichter8940a return of the fake box would be interesting. It won't really affect the gameplay but atleast we will have it.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
@stephenrichter8940 My thoughts are: no. I very highly doubt it. People talk about the gap in the VS race custom items, but there are SEVEN open spots on the Battle custom items screen, so I do not see them going out of their way to fill blank slots.
@matthewsimpson748611 ай бұрын
I 100% doubted the Daisy Circuit call but kudos to you for that.
@MannyGM Жыл бұрын
The amount of research you've put in to this video is stunning. Especially been hearing one of the GCN Tracks will replace with another game.
@Circle294711 ай бұрын
Bro no way you got it right. What a madman
@KartLife Жыл бұрын
Good job on this video. One of the best summaries I’ve seen on Wave 6 and I tend to agree with you on the GCN shakeup. The Noshi slander however I cannot abide!
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
didn't expect to see you here! Appreciate it mate!
@Somenewssomenotsonews11 ай бұрын
Nailed Daisy Circuit! Congrats!
@jacesgamingspace162411 ай бұрын
Wow, spot on prediction man! So happy Daisy Circuit is returning.
@wootmasterzorsx11 ай бұрын
First off, congrats on guessing Daisy Circuit. I’m posting this after the Wave 6 Trailer was shown off in the latest Nintendo Direct, and that, along with another DLC prediction video I saw a while back, is fueling one specific prediction I want to make here. First and foremost, though, I agree most of your predictions are pretty solid ones, hence why I only want to make one prediction. That said, having seen Delzethin’s Wave 4-6 prediction video, I’m inclined to entertain the idea that, like Yoshi, we will get an original Donkey Kong themed track in wave 6. Now, I can’t deny it could be leftover data that went unused, and this would replace one of the two Piranha Plant tracks that already exist in Tour, so I’m thinking this isn’t a super likely scenario anymore. However, with the DLC trailer revealing Diddy, Funky, AND Pauline, I’m inclined to place my bet that, at the VERY least, we get a DK related retro course, so my guess is DK Mountain from GameCube. I’m also willing to admit there doesn’t have to be correlation between DLC characters and tracks, considering there hasn’t been any before, but it feels weird to have three closely related characters to one franchise’s history in one wave of DLC. I fully admit I could be off base with the DK characters we got being a hint towards either a DK Nitro or Retro track- it could all mean nothing but three characters I was hoping for. And I will admit, given all the info we have and the fact it would complete all the Tour courses being added here, a DK Mountain is way more likely. But regardless, I think you have some real solid predictions yourself, hence my focus on what the DK characters could mean for the final wave, if they mean anything at all.
@antonioiovino528911 ай бұрын
He actually called it
@brownieandcrew1873 Жыл бұрын
All I want is Mario Kart WII Rainbow Road
@LoganverseS1 Жыл бұрын
Yea
@mattdickson627 Жыл бұрын
Airship fortress 😭 Lol Im dying to get Wii rainbow road as well
@mauricioruiz4776 Жыл бұрын
Wii Rainbow Road is GOD
@LEGO_49611 ай бұрын
that's been confirmed since wave 1...
@LoganverseS111 ай бұрын
@@LEGO_496 Yes
@nathanbyberg Жыл бұрын
If Pauline and GCN Dino Dino Jungle are in wave 6, I’ll be happy
@JmKirbyiou11 ай бұрын
imagine being a simp
@nathanbyberg11 ай бұрын
@@JmKirbyiou: I’m no simp. I’m just a fan of the game telling the things he wants in the final wave
@Roxleton11 ай бұрын
@@JmKirbyioubro
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
@@JmKirbyiouimagine being a funky Kong Stan Pauline is popular and has been in more games Fun fact: Pauline came first not shitty funky Kong
@JmKirbyiou11 ай бұрын
@@Hu55a4in 🤓🤓🤓
@legendaf325011 ай бұрын
Rosalina’s Ice World!!!!!!!!
@bob17111 ай бұрын
My god you were right
@oxcaxx Жыл бұрын
Idk if other cups have this presence in mk8d but Daisy Circuit's inclusion would mean the full Wii Star Cup would be in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
@hyperdense858911 ай бұрын
Did the research, you would be correct
@beetemup164211 ай бұрын
3DS Leaf Cup is only missing DS DK Pass, since Kalimari Desert, Daisy Cruiser, and Maple Treeway are already in the game. I don’t mind swapping DK Pass out for DK Summit.
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
Well it just did and now the entire Wii Star Cup is in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
@comfy8833811 ай бұрын
If DK Mountain gets in, then Wii's Lightning Cup would also be in 8 Deluxe with the exception of N64 Bowser Castle.
@Sammykyt11 ай бұрын
Who else is here after the Nintendo direct?
@CeMi711 ай бұрын
I've written this like 20 times already, so here's the 21st time. People are not aware of what Moonview Highway meant to the BCP as a whole. It could not be planned from the start, because there was never a situation that two courses from the same game* were featured in the same retro cup. Moonview had to be put in the placeholder in a timespan between wave 1's release to a little after wave 2's release. As I said, I don't think many people realise what this caused. This was the reason why many of the tracks' placements were shuffled. And that raises a question: If they were going to: put something in a placeholder, sacrifice MB, add Moonview Highway and the other track we don't know about yet, wouldn't it make more sense if they put Moonview in wave 5 and the other track in the placeholder to not shuffle everything? Pretty much the only outcomes I can see are: 1. We'll see MB anyway 2. We'll get both jungles 3. MB was sacrificed for another Wii track. That would cause the shuffle anyway. * - except for tracks from Tour, but since BCP exists mainly to archive these courses, i think it still makes sense
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
I largely agree. Moonview Highway's insertion is almost certainly related to the root cause of all the major swaps that took place before Wave 2's release (as evidenced by Treeway's near-complete music prefetch). This is part of why I don't think Mushroom Bridge was ever planned. If Bridge WAS planned, it would've been very easy to leave it and Moonview in their original placements, or replace it with Moonview directly. More likely Moonview's insertion made it difficult to settle on a good order (since the order was pretty obviously not final), and since Wave 5 wasn't to start development for another year anyway, there shouldn't have been any issues with replacing whatever else they needed to replace.
@JKV250011 ай бұрын
@@LasagneProductionspersonally, I do think Bridge was planed for Wave 4. It could be that cnsw_46 wasn’t started till later (around Wave 2 - 3), and by that time the devs could have wanted Moonview instead of Bridge. A file could have also been corrupted, but that’s more of a stretch.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
@JKV2500 Cnsw_46 is Daisy Cruiser...
@JKV250011 ай бұрын
@@LasagneProductions like I said, it could be Nintendo originally planned Bridge to be cnsw_46 before working on it.
@GetsuyoHonodera Жыл бұрын
I love the part where you say "What's wrong with the BC3 doubters? Who hurt them?" I have multiple predictions regarding Wave 6, since nothing is quite solved yet as knowing Nintendo, we might get things drastically different from expectations: If a GCN course wasn't replaced: Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti SNES Bowser's Castle 3 GCN DK Mountain Tour Pipe Canyon (I don't care what everyone says, this is the true name for pIrAnHA pLAnt PiPELiNE as well as the Japanese name for it) Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN Dino Dino Jungle Tour Piranha Plant Cove Wii Rainbow Road (I 100% doubt Mushroom Bridge will come, since it's too easy for a Wave 6 track, especially when the easiest track in Wave 3, which is Boo Lake, is considerably more challenging) ========== If a GCN course was replaced: Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti SNES Bowser's Castle 3 DS Airship Fortress / Wii Daisy Circuit / 3DS Rosalina's Ice World (It could be anything, but I'm leaning towards Airship Fortress since the DLC lacks Bowser-themed courses and this one is considerably harder than SNES BC3) Tour Pipe Canyon Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN Dino Dino Jungle Tour Piranha Plant Cove Wii Rainbow Road
@average_youtube_commenter Жыл бұрын
i highly doubt both gcn jungle tracks would be in
@Clemehl11 ай бұрын
@@average_youtube_commenter Well, I don't think this is an argument. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! only had 16 courses but have those 2 jungle tracks. So I don't see the problem. You may miss another possibility @GetsuyoHonodera (I like your tracks choice!). They could have replaced a "Unique" course with Moonview because the track wasn't done in time. And they could to do it again, scrapping another "Unique" track. So here another proposition: *Acorn Cup:* - (Tour) Madrid Drive - (DS) Airship Fortress (or any tracks, but I have my reason. No Pipe Canyon / PPPl, as they couldn't implement it in time?) - (GCN) Dino Dino Jungle - (Unique) Piranha Cove *Spiny Shell Cup:* - (Tour) Rome Avanti - (GCN) DK Mountain - (SNES) Bowser Castle 3 - (Wii) Rainbow Road _To be fair, they could invert (DS) Airship Fortress and (SNES) Bowser Castle of cup for challenge?_ I want to believe that Spiny Shell was around the myth "climbing to the gods", starting at _(Tour) Athens Dash,_ then climbing _(GCN) DK Mountain_ as Mount Olympus, then arriving to the gates of the gods at _(None) Unreleased map,_ (probably Sky themed) and end up one the _(Wii) Rainbow Road._ I don't think they intended to have Mushroom Bridge, nor replaced it with Moonview Highway. I believe Moonview Highway replaced a track that was "unique", and Mushroom Bridge wasn't plan at all. The narrative of the Spiny Shell still work by starting at _(Tour) Rome Avanti,_ climbing _(GCN) DK Mountain_ (as Mount Vesuvius), but it erupts and we end in _(SNES) Bowser Castle 3_ (for the lava...), that we triumph and get our round on the _(Wii) Rainbow Road._ I also expected they are going to scrap another "Unique" track they have planned, which could have been Pipe Canyon, or another track. They could fit a narrative around the Great Discoveries, starting at (Tour) Madrid then hopping to the _(DS) Airship Fortress_ to sail to the New World, only to face hostile _(GCN) Dino Dino Jungle_ until discovery _(Unique) Piranha Cove_ which share a lot of Aztec design. This... is improbable: they never really put narrative before.
@ElectriKong-11 ай бұрын
@@Clemehl Wat? Piranha Plant Pipeline has already made an appearance in Tour. There is no possibility of it being scrapped.
@goatprince111 ай бұрын
It took me long enough to actually watch this, but good lord, this is (was?) easily the single best Wave 6 prediction video out there. Pretty much everything is explained flawlessly; nothing left up in the air in regards to why exactly we're getting the courses that we know are coming, and no humoring of stupid/arbitrary reasons for certain courses making the cut or not. I also noticed that a ton of this video's content is coincidentally very similar to my own Wave 6 video, although that's not much of a surprise considering that we were both trying to be as thorough as possible. And we both called Daisy Circuit lol, although the big thing for me was the course's lack of unique map objects, which would theoretically make the track much easier to port over to the Switch. Assuming that any replacement for Mushroom Bridge would have been brought over at a later point than almost any other track in the pass, then a total lack of course obstacles would probably be of sizeable consideration for the replacement course seeing as the developers likely wouldn't have felt inclined to fenagle with importing map objects and trying to get them to work correctly under a looming deadline. I'm Okee68 from Swift Cafe btw
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed it! I think just about anyone with a brain has basically the same conclusions these days lol
@iancamilosanchez11 ай бұрын
You gained a lot of credibility with this analysis. Congratulations. Amazing reasoning. Calling Daisy Circuit for inclusion in a World where everyone was calling for Mushroom Bridge or Dino Dino was extremely smart.
@Bluebatstar Жыл бұрын
The reason I personally doubt Daisy Circuit is due to the overabundance of Wii courses. Not because I doubt they'd add another one since Wii's so popular and they know it, but because if they were to add another Wii course, why Daisy Circuit? It's not a fan favourite and Dry Dry Ruins is right there, so if they wanted to do it to please the wii fans then it's odd to pick a course that's pretty polarizing. If anything I think it hurts it's odds more then it helps.
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
Hard agree. Dry Dry Ruins is also currently the only track in Tour with halfpipes not coming to the BCP, so why leave it out if you really did give yourself the opportunity to add one more Wii track. And also imo Daisy Circuit isn’t really a fun track, if anything it’s pretty boring.
@JKV2500 Жыл бұрын
@@rebirthphoenix5646true, but Yoshi Valley had halfpipes in Tour. They may just add halfpipes to courses that feel right having them, and most of those courses were fan favorites so of course they got into the dlc.
@stephenrichter894011 ай бұрын
Toad's circuit is by far the best option for a Wii rep but may be difficult to implement
@dustymcwari446811 ай бұрын
Tbh if there's two Wii courses coming to Wave 6, they most likely are Dry Dry Ruins and Rainbow Road
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
rip
@JKV2500 Жыл бұрын
Out of the tracks they could pick, I think these are the only ones with a chance. Shy Guy Bazaar Rosalina’s Ice World Airship Fortress Luigi’s Mansion Mushroom Bridge Dry Dry Ruins Daisy Circuit
@JKV2500 Жыл бұрын
And please let it be Airship, it’s by far the most liked out of these courses and would fit perfectly before Wii Rainbow Road. BC3 would work well as the 2nd or 3rd spot in the Acorn Cup.
@TENDOEGGiloualk11 ай бұрын
I'm very happy, Circuit Daisy is comeback ❤ Very complete prediction with supporting argument!
@fireface729911 ай бұрын
I don't know. I feel Daisy circuit looks a bit too similar to the city tracks with that south european vibe. So I will probably go with Dry Dry Ruins. It is a difficult question though.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
_not-so-secretly hopes that you're correct_
@TEdition.11 ай бұрын
Holy fuck man, i really like the format of going over all the different courses and the likebility! Thank you lol. You have an extra sub now
@Neo_Bones11 ай бұрын
Wait it actually is Daisy Circuit
@JohnSmith1264811 ай бұрын
I think GCN Mushroom Bridge is getting replaced because of Moonview, my guess is probably DS Airship Fortress since fans were upset it wasn’t in Wave 4, or maybe even Wii Dry Dry Ruins because Wii
@DarkPrince77711 күн бұрын
I remember this was my favorite video. Man does time fly so much. 😂😭😭
@ninstarrose656411 ай бұрын
The BCP has been insane! When they first announced it during that Nintendo Direct. I started listing my most wanted tracks I wanted to see by the end of the BCP. So before wave 1 was revealed... here was my wanted tracks: - DS Shroom Ridge - DS Mario Circuit (YES! I wanted this!) - 3DS Toad Circuit - 3DS Alpine Pass (aka Rock Rock Mountain) - Wii Moonview Highway - Wii Daisy Circuit There are also so many other cool tracks I wanted to come back too like: - GBA Sky Garden - GCN Daisy Cruiser - DS Airship Fortress - 3DS Rainbow Road - N64 DK Jungle Parkway - N64 Bowser's Castle But these tracks here has returned once before in other Mario Kart Main Line games... but when coming up with my most wanted tracks to return, I mainly wanted to see selected tracks that has NEVER gotten that chance to return yet (excluding Tour itself) All these tracks I listed at top has never had a return in a main line Nintendo Home or Handheld Mario Kart game as of yet... That is until now :D and I cannot believe Nintendo has done 5 out of the 6 tracks I wanted to see return! All I need is Daisy Circuit and my wish list will be 100% accurate! LETS GO DAISY CIRCUIT!!!
@stephenrichter894011 ай бұрын
As it turns out...
@ninstarrose656411 ай бұрын
I AM SOOOOO HAPPY!!! @@stephenrichter8940
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
So Daisy Circuit is in now you have EVERY track you wanted
@ninstarrose656411 ай бұрын
Hahah Yes thats right! I cant believe I got all of my 6 wanted Tracks!@@FunkyOverload
@Florian-bb3mm11 ай бұрын
Congrats! You were right! Although I love how Daisy's Circuit looks like and that it is a new remake for mainline Mario Kart (instead of a course like Airship Fortress), idk how to feel about YET ANOTHER Wii COURSE! 😂 Airship Fortress or Rosalina's Ice World would have soo awesome, but well, I'm still fine with that! The characters also make lots of sense to me, we basically did really get two new characters (models) with Diddy and Pauline, and two additional ones, Peachette and Funky, who basically are just reskins of Peach and DK, so they were easy choices for them instead of doing eg. Hammer Bro, Nabbit etc So the two should be considered bonus characters. Although I wish we would get Dixie (Diddy reskin) instead of Peachette (Peach reskin). I guess they thought 3 Kongs would have been a bit much. And there are probably lots of casual young girls fans who prefer Peach/Peachette over Dixie. A mainstream/ casual fans character choice.
@bluejay21.11 ай бұрын
Tbh, I don't think Nintendo cares about release cup ordering. It's just whatever the hell they chose. (Remember, they made 4 GBA Bowser's Castles, 4 SNES Mario Circuits, 2 Wario Stadiums, N64 and DS, and 2 Sherbert Lands, N64 and GameCube.)
@De_an Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Moonview Highway in Tour and thinking to myself, "Huh, the cliffs seem to be modeled slightly differently from the rest of the cliffs in MKT. They have more indents in them, and the shape seems to be slightly less cartoony than the ones seen in, say, Koopa Cape. In fact, they almost resemble cliffs I'd see in the base game of MK8! Oh well, it's probably just a weird design thing they did, I'm sure it doesn't mean anything 🙂"
@grrumakemeangry11 ай бұрын
That doesnt make sense considering koopa cape is also in mk8
@jacesgamingspace1624 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid. I wouldn't mind if your prediction were to happen since I do like Daisy Circuit. I guess I'll share my predictions. Acorn Cup Tour Madrid Drive GCN Mushroom Bridge New Piranha Plant Pipeline SNES Bowser Castle 3 Spiny Cup Tour Rome Avanti GCN DK Mountain New Piranha Plant Cove Wii Rainbow Road 1. I feel Rome fits better in Spiny Cup than Madrid because the layout looks slightly more difficult, and it takes place at night. I also feel it's a good Athens Dash replacement as the final Tour City track in the BCP. 2. Yeah, I still think Mushroom Bridge is coming but I'd love to be wrong if in return we get something more difficult like Airship Fortress. 3. I know it seems odd to have BC3 as the final course of the Acorn Cup but hear me out on this because I feel it kind of makes sense based on the theming of the final Worlds in some Super Mario Brothers games (e.g. World 7 = PPP to World 8 BC3). Strange reasoning I know lol. 4. I personally think a dark or ominous track should come before Wii Rainbow Road like BC3 or PPC (I prefer the latter hence my predicted course order).
@butchcassidy887 Жыл бұрын
Ultimately this comes down to whether they changed the GCN track or not. If they did decide to run with both of the GameCube tracks we are surely getting both Jungle tracks, as having Mushroom Bridge after Moonview Highway would make 0 sense. If they did decide to scrap one of the GCN tracks some time before, I believe the top contender is DS Airship Fortress if they really do want to please the most people. I think Daisy Circuit is unlikely seeing how well represented Wii is in the Booster Course Pass already. Even for Wii tracks, Dry Dry Ruins has better odds of making it in, as it's a Special Cup Track which would fit better for the final wave.
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
💀💀💀well Daisy Circuit is Acorn-2 very likely
@butchcassidy88711 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverload touché, noone was actually expecting this one though.
@mariokirby1703 Жыл бұрын
My Wave 6 Prediction: Acorn Cup: TOUR Rome Avanti GCN DK Mountain SNES Bowsers Castle 3 Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: TOUR Madrid Drive DS Airship Fortress Piranha Plant Pipeline WII Rainbow Road
@jakebarton2528 Жыл бұрын
Wave 6 predictions: Acorn Cup Tour Rome Avanti GCN Mushroom Bridge Tour Piranha Plant Cove SNES Bowser’s Castle 3 Spiny Cup Tour Madrid Drive GCN DK Mountain/GCN Dino Dino Jungle Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline Wii Rainbow Road Character Predictions: Diddy Kong Pauline
@_puduposting11 ай бұрын
That last GCN track is the vain of the existence for everybody doing predictions, we all know we're getting one of the jungle tracks, but nobody wants Mushroom Bridge to be at the ending because it seems too easy for being at the last wave unless it's the first track of the penultimate cup. But also this would be the 4th track added to the booster course pass where the main gimmick is "traffic" I like double dash, but I really hope they discard the second gcn track and give us, I don't know, something from 7 maybe? There are some cool tracks they didn't pick from there
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
Well you got half that correct but we got the replacement from Wii……
@_puduposting11 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverload yep we got the one with that theory about "is the only tour retro that has not cartoony sky" so at least that half was solved by now
@Scott...11 ай бұрын
Wave 6 predictions is a textbook example of people’s opinions being influenced by KZfaqrs. There have been so many random theories and nuances pitched on KZfaq and social media that’ve been picked up and regurgitated throughout the BCP to the point where it’s just the norm of speculation. Wave 6 is just the furthest logical extreme given that there’s so many dumb theories that have yet to be proved or disproven.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
I concur; I tried my best to start from scratch on my predictions and work to my own conclusions. Unfortunately some things are overpredicted because they make sense lol
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the way you analyzed and sorted everything out for this almost half hour video. Exactly like how I think too if I made my own video on the Wave 6 predictions! There’s just one big ol’ flaw in this though: Where the hell is Mushroom Bridge? And no I’m not kidding with that question, I’m genuinely for real. Like I get that people think Mushroom Bridge isn’t coming in Wave 6 but I think the general agreement that “it’s too easy for Wave 6”, or “we just got Moonview Highway you want another traffic course?”, and especially the “Moonview Highway is the harder version of Mushroom Bridge” arguments really don’t add up like at all. At least IMO. Like it seems to me a lot of people think Moonview Highway killed Mushroom Bridge’s chances when I don’t think it ever did: I mean from the start, it seemed like the retro prefixes were set in stone, we were always planned to get what we got in the leak and especially with the GCN representation. Moonview Highway personally was most likely a last minute addition added to the planning probably like after Wave 2 launched so as to not add Maple Treeway, Mushroom Bridge, and Wii Rainbow Road all in the same wave. Maple Treeway early in Wave 3, Moonview Highway in Wave 5, and Mushroom Bridge and Rainbow Road now by themselves in Wave 6. It in a sense adds up so as to not have 3 Wii tracks in a single wave as well as not having two traffic courses in the same wave too. To go back to Moonview Highway replacing the prefixless track, I mostly believe that it was in fact a placeholder since Mario Kart Tour (Iirc) doesn’t really have much solid evidence backing up that there was a third nitro in development, and if there was, it was scrapped extremely early in development before there were even assets for it in the files. Still backs up the claim though. To further add to that, Mario Kart Tour never really got proper Double Dash representation until last year. We got Yoshi Circuit (based on its MK8 appearance) and Dino Dino Jungle which was basically the MK7 version but given a new coat of paint to fit the Tour art style. Then we had to wait 2 and a half YEARS before we got the next GCN track being Baby Park (also based on its MK8 appearance). Now granted, by then the BCP was announced but then in that time frame, they released 4 GCN tracks all in a one year succession which is unheard of and each of the 4 tracks were released with basically BCP level remake quality. Now this might just a pattern I saw give or take, but they also seemingly released the 4 2022-2023 GCN tracks in order of development completion in Tour (Waluigi Stadium first since it was in the banner leak finished for over a year, Daisy Cruiser next which came last summer, DK Mountain in the fall, and Mushroom Bridge a few months ago). I’d go as far as to say that Mushroom Bridge is actually cnsw_66 not cnsw_56 because of that. Lastly, comparing Mushroom Bridge to Moonview Highway is like comparing DK Mountain with DK Summit. Yes they have glaring similarities but they different enough that I don’t think just because one track is in means that the other won’t be coming. Mushroom Bridge would have the most diverse set of traffic vehicles bringing back cars, taxis, trucks, pick up trucks with surfboards, and the infamous bomb cars but also alongside bringing back Wiggler Wagons which are the longest traffic vehicles in the series, and Mushroom Cars which are like Riverside Park’s ptooies. That alone is enough to make it unique enough from Moonview Highway. And that’s not even all of it: Mushroom Bridge arguably would have the most alternate routes out of any traffic course in 8 Deluxe having the rather useless sidewalks, an actual dirt shortcut halfway through, and the bridge archways which in itself can provide a unique gameplay experience since they’re fast but can easily be trapped by other players. That’s all stuff Moonview Highway doesn’t have since it’s an even more linear course than Mushroom Bridge that lacks any real shortcuts besides the beginning which isn’t much to go off of. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised that they put Moonview Highway before Mushroom Bridge because they intended to nerf the difficulty of the former and buff the difficulty of the latter. Really, Moonview Highway if it were the way it was in 8 Deluxe but instead in Wii, I guarantee you that track would’ve been in the Flower Cup like Mushroom Bridge instead of the Special Cup. It’s in the Special Cup not because of its intricate track layout but the fact of how brutal the cars were in Wii and how abundant they originally were. I strongly believe Mushroom Bridge will be of the same difficulty in 8 Deluxe at least or maybe even a little bit tougher than Moonview Highway in this game. So yeah this is my prediction now that I ranted about all that and sorry if it came off like I was demonizing your prediction lol: Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti SNES Bowser’s Castle 3 GCN DK Mountain Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN Mushroom Bridge Piranha Plant Pipeline Wii Rainbow Road And yes I’m bold enough to say that Mushroom Bridge will be in the Spiny Cup. It adds up from the fact it was the last GCN track made and it being the second spot fits very well. Difficulty is just thrown out the window at this point. And yeah I also think SNES Bowser’s Castle 3 will be the second course of the wave since that’s how all SNES tracks are placed in 8 Deluxe. Pattern again I know but it’s the only I way I see it so as to have DK Mountain as the penultimate track in the Acorn Cup like how it normally is throughout the series.
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting theory for sure. I never said Bridge would be too simple for Wave 6, but based on Mario Kart 8's track record with traffic courses and the fact that Bridge was created for Tour LOOOONG before Moonview, I don't believe it holds much weight. I'm also not fond of the idea of Spiny having three courses in a row set in broad daylight, but that's more of a nitpick 🙃 I won't complain at all if you end up being correct though. Bridge as I would expect it to appear doesn't do much to excite me, but if they crank up the difficulty while still making it play well, I'm totally down. May the best speculator win!
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
@@LasagneProductions I can see Mushroom Bridge be in the Acorn Cup as well but then you’d have to push DK Mountain to the second of the Spiny Cup which may or may not work out. Tbf I wouldn’t mind getting Airship Fortress, Dry Dry Ruins, Lakeside Park etc. over Mushroom Bridge though. I just personally (and a few others too) think it’s the most likely outcome. Go as far as to say that if we were getting 2 GCN tracks still, that it’s the most likely one of the three from Tour. We’ll have to wait and see though once Wave 6 gets announced in like a month and half.
@sonicjhiq Жыл бұрын
@@LasagneProductions you read all that?
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
@sonicjhiq I love reading and investigating other peoples' theories.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
when my followup video comes out I'd better see your followup comment on this ;)
@huhneat1076 Жыл бұрын
I really hope the last course in the BCP is my favorite city track, Antarctica Alleyways
@aileen16449 ай бұрын
Congrats on all but one! And it was a top contender too.
@KingOfLiesMK Жыл бұрын
I see so many people saying that Daisy Circuit will get in wave 6 and I strongly disagree. Few reasons, It’s a circuit in wave 6 that’s more basic than Mushroom Bridge They are not going to double Wii courses again cause that’s way to many Wii (coming from a Wii fan) Finally, this is a reason I’ve seen no one say, Nintendo has never brought back a whole cup as a retro in a main line game (Minus Tour and GBA SNES remakes), I strongly doubt they will do that. I think Bridge will still be in but if it’s not I would say Rosalina’s Ice World, Wario Shipyard, or Airship Fortress gets in over it.
@sayikoo502311 ай бұрын
Daisy Circuit is only good for the music. If a second wii track "happens" to be real. Toad's Factory will take the slot. But I hope they won't and save it for MK10
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
noted
@sayikoo502311 ай бұрын
@@LasagneProductions I didn't see that coming, good job on that one lmaoo, really underrated
@leotubehd3156 Жыл бұрын
Here are my predictions of courses and characters and reasoning. (some tracks I chose don't have ID files from tour) Acorn cup: Tour Madrid drive GCN Wario colleseum SNES Bowser's Castle 3 Tour Piranha plant cove Madrid drive is one of the two final tracks with 2 versions with good layout version 1 taking you through a football (soccer) field and version 2 taking you through what looks like an outdoor café I know this is not in tour but Wario colleseum is one of the fan favourites from double dash being only 2 laps because of this long and insane layout. I decided to cut this off with Mushroom Bridge for 2 reasons, first reason being we already have enough traffic courses and secondly, it's simple in terms of layout. Bowser's Castle 3 got an insane glow up in Tour, and it looks like it was made for the BCP and definitely the best SNES track remade, and we also haven't had a remake of a retro Bowser's castle yet neither in the base game or in the booster course pass. Piranha plant cove would be a unique Nitro to bring back because it has 3 variants so it could change every lap just like the tour city tracks. Spiny cup: Tour Rome avanti GCN Dino Dino jungle DS Airship fortress Wii Bowser's castle Rome avanti is another of the two final city track to bring over and this one is cool, letting you drive to the coliseum in version 1 but version 2 is a little duller. Dino Dino jungle is another fan favourite and one of the GCN tracks in Tour not in the BCP. I chose this over DK mountain cause DK summit and DK mountain are extremely similar in terms of layout. I know there's no datamines for anymore DS courses but Airship fortress is a massive fan favourite from DS and it's extremely baffling that this is not in the BCP. I know what you're thinking "ugh, why not Wii Rainbow Road, it's a better way to end the BCP with" I definitely do understand that but I chose Wii Bowser's castle for two main reasons. First reason, like I mentioned about SNES Bowser's Castle 3, they a serious lack of retro Bowser's castle tracks. Secondly, people don't seem to realise that we already have 4 Rainbow Road tracks, that's even more than the 3 Bowser's Castle tracks we got in Mario Kart Wii, so adding a 5th Rainbow Road would be too much and unfair for the Bowser's Castle. The characters I would've chose are funky Kong and ROB. Funky Kong is a massive fan favourite character from Wii so it be shocking if he doesn't make it in I chose ROB over Diddy Kong or Pauline cause we already a representative for Tour with kamek and 2 representatives for double dash with Birdo and Petey Piranha, so it time we got the only representative for DS. And if you look at the bottom row of the roster, you'll see they are non-mario characters so it would make a bit of sense. A bit of a mouth full, I know.
@blakeskit Жыл бұрын
(Not in any order) Madrid Drive Rome Avanti Piranha Plant Pipeline Piranha Plant Cove GCN Dino Dino Jungle SNES Bowser Castle 3 DS Airship Fortress Wii Rainbow Road
@CeMi78 ай бұрын
14:05 I love how I completely doubted this back in the day... and it turned out to be the case well either this or a scrapped GCN course from Tour
@dyll_pyckle11 ай бұрын
Awesome vid!! I haven’t kept up with BCP speculation as I wanted to, so you breaking everything down was really nice. When this all ends, I’d love to see a comprehensive history of BCP speculation from beginning to end, even though I know that video would be quite the undertaking.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
I've actually been thinking of making just such a video! Glad to hear there's interest in it. It's been quite a ride xd
@mailpaper77545 ай бұрын
“They wouldn’t do something whacky to throw us off if the alternative makes much more sense.” Piranha Plant Pipeline: :(
@LasagneProductions4 ай бұрын
I stand by my statement - Pipeline was almost certainly omitted from the lineup many months before the course was revealed, not in order to spite our assumptions lol
@greenbean50111 ай бұрын
I personally think the mystery course will be 3ds Rosalina's Ice World. It's a special course cup like dino dino jungle, and it has a fairly difficult layout. The snow aesthetic would fit a lot better in wave 6 too since it will likely be released sometime this winter
even though this is never happening im hoping that toad factory is gonna be where you put daisy circuit but there still is a very small chance that it could happen\
@Florian-bb3mm11 ай бұрын
I don't think Daisy's Circuit is very unlikely, but it is a pretty simple course, so I'm a bit sceptical. I think you should also consider Luigi's Mansion DS because of its Halloween-like theme. We also got a Halloween-like course in wave 3 (Boo Lake GBA) and we got Merry Mountain (Christmas). The seasons have an influence on the order of courses, that's why we also got numerous summer themed courses in wave 2/5, Yoshi's Island for Easter, and so on. And that's also a reason why I think Rosalina's Ice World has good chances, too. I think we'll get one of the following: Luigi's Mansion, Rosalina's Ice World or Airship Fortress (for obvious reasons, it's a big fan favourite and they could also remove the lava theme, I think, to make it more unique. Perhaps they could even bring back it's original Halloween-like skybox).
@dustymcwari446811 ай бұрын
Luigi's Mansion yeees
@martodila11 ай бұрын
Nintendo: JAJAJAJJAJAA YOU LITTLE HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
Well here we are Daisy Circuit is confirmed
@ialc11 ай бұрын
I appreciate the lack of bc3 slander. 😊
@elkarlo1593 Жыл бұрын
My predictions are Tour Madrid Drive 3DS Rosalina's Ice World GCN Dino Dino Jungle Piranha Plant Cove Tour Rome Avanti Piranha Plant Pipeline GBA Bowser's Castle 4 Wii Rainbow road For Dino Dino Jungle, I just think it is the better between it and DK Mountain For Rosalina's Ice World, I believe that GCN Mushroom Bridge has been scrapped, and that if they choose a wintery track to fit for the winter season, Rosalina's Ice World is the better fit between it, the vanilla lakes and Frappe Snowland in terms of difficulty GBA Bowser's Castle 4 is just wishful thinking because it is the better remake, but I'm fully prepared to get SNES Bowser Castle 3 instead By the way, I do not mind the overuse of Wii courses, since in my opinion it has the best selection of Nitro courses in the series, with the only two bad ones being absent from Tour
@gearbrix1040 Жыл бұрын
Here’s my predictions: Acorn Cup: Rome Avanti ??? DK Mountain Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup Madrid Drive Piranha Plant Pipeline SNES Bowser Castle 3 Wii Rainbow Road As for my reasoning: The city courses: Back when I actually played Tour like two years ago(before I deleted the app because on the rare occasion that I actually played it, the gameplay experience paled in comparison to MKWii, which was the only console game I owned at the time and partly why I got a 2ds late last year, so I could have my own copies of DS and 7), I really didn’t care about the city courses in general then, and I don’t care now, I’m only invested in seeing what’ll be added next, knowing that any new retros have even the slightest chance of making it to the BCP, so I could care less about which city goes where ???: Personally, I’m inclined to put GBA Peach Circuit or 3DS Rosalina’s Ice World here. I know Daisy Circuit has a higher reputation among fans, but I REAAAALLY don’t understand why, other than it being a Daisy themed course, I just think it’s very mid and boring, so when GBA PC received a MASSIVE glowup in Tour earlier this year, I desperately wanted it to have a spot in the BCP, even though we all knew the last GBA course was gonna be Sunset Wilds, but now that it has another chance, I’m not willing to let it go to waste, unless it’s so 3DS RIW can have a chance to shine. I don’t know, I’m kinda torn on this one DK Mountain: Other than its placement as the penultimate course in a cup being a throwback to MKWii, there’s not much I can say here Piranha Plant Cove: Given how it has three variants like a city course and the last two waves each had a cup that ended with a city course, I’m inclined to put it here Piranha Plant Pipeline: I remember the hype surrounding this course’s reveal like it was yesterday: people were saying it was the unused “Dokan course” from MKDS reborn or something like that(and after comparing the track layouts of the two, I can confidently say that yes, after 16 years, Nintendo finally cracked the code on making a course themed around Warp Pipes). All I can say is: this course is awesome, the layout looks fun, the music absolutely SLAPS, but there’s one MAJOR problem: there’s two courses named after Piranha Plants in this wave. I know Nintendo have historically done similar in the past(MKWii had three retro Mario Circuits and two retro Bowser Castles: N64 Mario Raceway, GCN Mario Circuit, SNES Mario Circuit 3, GBA Bowser Castle 3, and N64 Bowser’s Castle, for instance. Heck, MK7 had N64 Luigi Raceway and DS Luigi’s Mansion in the same cup), but still, this just doesn’t sit quite right with me, unless Nintendo drop a surprise on us in the Wave 6 reveal trailer, or they announce a new non-city nitro in Tour before then. Oh well, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see SNES Bowser Castle 3: Having a Bowser’s Castle AND a Rainbow Road be in the same cup and not be the third and fourth tracks respectively is downright heresy in my opinion, especially after Grumble Volcano(a lava track) came before N64 RR in MK8’s OG tracks, and Airship Fortress(a castle track) came before SNES RR in MK7. Also Airship Fortress in Tour is now a castle surrounded by lava, as if it’s a castle before Bowser took it over or something like that Wii Rainbow Road: It’s Rainbow Road, enough said. But seriously though, imagine if Nintendo went SIKE! and threw in GCN RR because they wanted to save Wii RR for a hypothetical BCP 2 like the whole community’s been talking about for the past several months, but then again, maybe GCN RR’s the one they’re saving to end off the BCP 2(that or maybe they’ll go with RMX RR). Either way BCP 2 discussion isn’t something I’m all that interested in right now, so I say we just wait until next year and see if Nintendo will even go that route That’s all, folks!
@kingshark422 Жыл бұрын
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@harrybest2041 Жыл бұрын
My predictions for wave 6: Acorn Cup • Rome Avanti • Mushroom Bridge • Bowser Castle 3 • Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup • Madrid Drive • DK Mountain • Piranha Plant Pipeline • Wii Rainbow Road Characters: Diddy Kong, Pauline
@AverageKingBooEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
My predictions: Acorn Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN DK Mountain SNES Bowser Castle 3 Piranha Plant Pipeline Spiny Shell Cup: Tour Rome Avanti 3DS Wario Shipyard Piranha Plant Cove Wii Rainbow Road Characters: Diddy Kong, Pauline
@Magicwaterz Жыл бұрын
I don't think Nintendo planned to have 2 GCN Jungle courses to begin with. The main reason why people opted one over the other as opposed of having both as the likely courses for the 2 remaining GCN courses, if the theory that one of these are scrapped is false, is the OST. Both of these tracks share the same OST, apart from DS Wario Stadium and DS Waluigi Pinball where it can be excused that they didn't bother remixing it as there is already an existing soundtrack for it. It would not make sense for them to release these 2 tracks in the entire BCP since you have two tracks with the same OST. If they were to include them, it would make 4 courses to share OST.
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
I'd like to get a link to the interview where a developer said that they refuse to add multiple courses with the same music. Until I see that, it sounds an awful lot like a silly fan rule to me. I don't think there would've been any issue with having DK Mountain in w5 and Dino Dino Jungle in w6.
@Magicwaterz Жыл бұрын
@@LasagneProductions There was no interview. It's just logical reasoning. The original MK8 have no two tracks that share the same music. That was only broken with DS Waluigi Pinball. But since then, there has still never been two tracks that share the same music. All tracks before MK8, and before BCP, have at least 2 tracks that share music. It only made sense that they would most likely choose tracks that don't share the same music, in this case, throughout BCP.
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
Still sounds like a fan rule. All you have to go off is the fact that it's a rare occasion; I see no evidence that they're going out of their way to avoid it.
@Magicwaterz Жыл бұрын
@@LasagneProductions There have been a bunch of fan rules in the early days of BCP. Like how a plain DS Mario Circuit got in first over the existing Airship Fortress and Luigi's Mansion, both are popular and well known. There are also fan rules even earlier where a retro that came from an easier Mushroom Cup and Flower Cup returns in the harder Leaf Cup and Lightning Cup. Nothing is for certain, we don't know how Nintendo plans and arranges tracks. We identify patterns, that's how a human mind works, to make sense of things. That's why a lot of the predictions are based on patterns, provided by Tour datamines, and the prefix datamines, with the outlier being Wii Moonview Highway. And just like how me and the others base our additional patterns on the soundtrack variety, with the outlier being DS Waluigi Pinball.
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
This isn't a "pattern" though. A pattern entails them repeatedly doing (or obviously avoiding) something. When it comes to the music, we're investigating a track record, and I say there's not NEARLY enough data to establish that they are definitely intentionally avoiding it. It's just like how Birdo came with Yoshi's Island and people assumed that characters would be matched with courses in the respective Waves - they made an assumption based off an insufficient track record, and then their conclusion was blown out of the water with Wave 5. (And I tried to warn em, too!)
@Frightedfox11 ай бұрын
0:22 me waiting for the 2 the end of the year booster pass cups: allow me to introduce myself
@MCWSam Жыл бұрын
I’m still a believer of DDJ over DKM. I know that DKM may be the more popular choice but that didn’t stop DS Mario Circuit getting in over DS Airship. Plus Diddy is more associated with DDJ and I believe he is one of the last 2 characters.
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
Mario Circuit got in because it was a much more recent remake (intend for both the BCP and Tour at the same time) compared to Airship Fortress which was a track that had no datamined info going for it when it would’ve had some if it were coming since it’s an old Tour retro. Dino Dino Jungle is like Airship Fortress that has no datamined info in 8 Deluxe and came out on launch and then last year we got DK Mountain which was most likely intended to be in the BCP. Reason I say this is because Mario Circuit and DK Mountain didn’t finish development when Wave 1 launched when the leaks started coming out suggesting they hadn’t yet been added to the unused promotional banner nor did they have music datamined but if we were getting Airship Fortress and Dino Dino Jungle, I guarantee we would’ve gotten some sort of leaked info regarding them whether banner or music.
@SB2749 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful video, big props to the research that went into it. -Someone needed to shut up the Vanilla Mid believers after all- I still am on the "Mushroom Bridge is still coming" camp though. Yeah they just added Moonview Highway in the previous wave which is theoretically the harder course of them...even though it was neutered in difficulty to the point it's nowhere near as -annoying- hard as it was back in Wii, and Bridge would most likely be the second course of the wave where it belongs anyway. And I don't say this because I particularly like Bridge(it's an ok track, music is a banger but City is very much the better GCN traffic course), as my best case scenarios for its 'replacement' would be Dry Dry Ruins or Airship Fortress
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s impossible for Mushroom Bridge to come now
@SB274911 ай бұрын
Well I said this before the Direct happened so yeah lmao
@nintendoguy0342 Жыл бұрын
I still feel like GCN MB will come to Wave 6. I don’t have an issue with a Flower Cup track being in Wave 6 since the previous waves had at least 1 flower cup track. I think GCN tracks need more love and we were supposed to get 2 GCN tracks in Wave 6.
@Crafty_boy70 Жыл бұрын
I do agree we need more GCN tracks, but Mushroom Bride would be a pretty bad pick after Moonview Highway, not pointless, but we have many other tracks that would be much better
@rebirthphoenix5646 Жыл бұрын
@@Crafty_boy70I disagree, Mushroom Bridge would surprisingly be one of the more unique traffic courses to bring back, and the arguments of it being easier than Moonview Highway and it’s another traffic course back to back isn’t really solid enough to not justify its exclusion imo Edit: I say “unique” because of its abundance of alternate routes and unique traffic vehicles that no other traffic course has (besides Mushroom City which unfortunately isn’t in Tour thus not being in Wave 6).
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
Yeah as I said in the video, I don't have an issue with a Flower Cup track being in Wave 6 either. Heck, I even gave Shy Guy Bazaar a high placement on my likelihood list. But again, my issue with it is that the devs would've had to make the CONSCIOUS DECISION to swap it and Moonview, and I just don't see the logic in that. I think everyone would've been perfectly fine with Bridge in w5 and Moonview in w6.
@Crafty_boy70 Жыл бұрын
@@rebirthphoenix5646 I agree, the fact that it is a traffic course isn't valid on its own, but I still think there are many better options, the routes in Mushroom Bridge are cool, but the layout is still pretty bland and I don't think the unique cars are enough. I would much prefer Rosalina's Ice World or Lakeside Park over Mushroom Bridge
@ego-lay_atman-bay Жыл бұрын
If they choose toad's factory over daisy circuit, I would die happy. It's probably not gonna happen, since it hasn't been remade for tour, and probably won't be.
@FunkyOverload Жыл бұрын
I can agree with this but I don’t think any of them will happen honestly it sucks that toads factory likely won’t be in it and the music in the track kicks ASS
@sayikoo502311 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverloadI'm sure they are saving it for the next game. Most of fan favorite wii tracks have been added to the bcp except Toad's Factory.
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverloadreplace toad factory with Rome avanti
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
@@sayikoo5023Toads Circuit was honestly a waste of a slot a lame track that could’ve been replaced :/
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
Damn it 💀💀💀
@CatStuff080110 ай бұрын
The tracks i want are madrid drive, rome avanti, piranha plant cove, piranha plant pipeline, snes bc3, dk mountain, daisy circuit (confirmed) and wii rainbow road
@santi_ewe Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think the Airship Fortress "issue" is that relevant, I still think it's coming and it's the safest choice. I know they're popular, but I think these course lineups are right on the money tbh kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibeGeKp0ma3eppc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9l0oM-hxLGdfoU.html
@imaginationsquare Жыл бұрын
Me wishing it is not Daisy Circuit:
@seanbernard5270 Жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree with you sir, i think that replacing a GCN course, when it didn’t even get represented until wave four, with a TENTH Wii course, making this the second time a BCP wave has had two Wii courses, is blasphemous and I honestly think wave six shouldn’t even have any Wii courses at all after wave five. Furthermore, I think that GCN SHOULD have two courses in wave six to make up for its late representation, as well as represent games that have the least amount of tracks in both the BCP and the base game, barring SNES of course. That said, these are my predictions for wave six, bringing in fan favorites while also having a couple surprises that people wont expect similar to courses like Snow Land, Moonview Highway or DS Mario Circuit. My predictions are as follows: Acorn Cup TOUR Rome Avanti SNES Bowser Castle 3 GCN DK Mountain TOUR Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Shell Cup TOUR Madrid Drive TOUR Pipe Canyon (PP Pipeline) N64 Banshee Boardwalk GCN Wario Colosseum BC3 would be this wave’s “simple layout” course even though it would be a Bowser Castle. DKM Would be a fan favorite. BB would represent N64, which when combing the BCP and Base Game for all game representation, has the least amount of tracks in MK8 besides SNES. I could also see this track getting an excellent glow-up. WC is a course that people have said should’ve been in MK8 from the beginning and is also another fan favorite course, so even though its not a Rainbow Road, it would still be a great way to end off the BCP and MK8 both poetically and in terms of Hype. I would be much happier with this outcome over the one that everyone and their grandmother is predicting right now, and it also makes sense. While it is true that the BCP developers would want to add courses that make sense, Nintendo as a whole has been known for wanting to surprise their fans with stuff they don’t expect. So even if you want another Wii course in wave six, I still think people would be happy with this.
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
I respect this take and I have recorded your predictions, but it does contradict a lot of the stuff that has been proven to us over the course of the Pass so far. For one thing, Nintendo doesn't do surprises for the sake of surprises. We weren't supposed to see those prefixes and Nintendo hasn't strayed too far from them overall. Additionally, those "surprises that people won't expect" that you mentioned (and all others, for that matter) were at least datamined or suggested in Tour's internal data at the time of their reveals. They only became surprises because we made them surprises by ignoring that evidence - and Tour's data indicates that we've reached the end of new courses for the foreseeable future (new courses are always prepared several months in advance), so for all intents and purposes our entire pool of courses to choose from is right in front of us.
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
I’m going to assume your not happy with this
@seanbernard527011 ай бұрын
@@FunkyOverload i mean, as long as this is the only wii course in this wave and it turns out that Daisy Circuit WAS in fact Csnw_68, so no RRWii, i think that would be fine.
@FunkyOverload11 ай бұрын
@@seanbernard5270 it likely isn’t the only Wii course
@MarioWithTheCrowbar Жыл бұрын
They could add 8 new characters or 8 new battle courses. Because: 1. Tour has a lotta characters, and it's gonna be lost when it shuts down. 2. Tour has some battle courses, including 2 original battle courses and datamined Wii Block Plaza. Again, it'll be lost when the game shuts down.
@notapplicable311 ай бұрын
Very well thought out. I have two scenarios I'm 50/50 on, one of which is this scenario but for slightly different reasons: First of all, I think Madrid will be before Rome because of the day sky and the variety being a great first impression. That puts Madrid in 61 (all numbers in new slots) and Rome in 65. Then I think PPC will be in 64 for the same reasons, and PPPL in the penultimate 67 since having the nitro be penultimate is the same as wave 3, and the track has a good layout and theme that would probably transition better into Wii RR (68) better anyways. The other three are based on whether or not we get two GCN Tracks. No we don't scenario (same as yours): 66 is BC3 because then it's in the final cup and that's pretty cool. I then put the mixup in 62 since it's probably not crazier than the Jungle track. 63 is DK Mountain only since I think it would be a shame if DDJ was not in the final cup being a special cup course. The mixup could very well be a Wii (and probably not DDR), but I hope it isn't since that's scrapping two tracks for what's already super heavily represented. I could see Ice World, one of the two hard-ish GBAs (it's the second track of an odd cup anyways), or Airship Fortress (especially if they go back to pre-Tour lava) as well and I hope it's one of those since Daisy Circuit would be another Wii. However, my main argument in my head for Daisy Circuit is that Nintendo's devs are trolls and would just *love* to add another circuit and another Wii considering it's not too too bad. Not that they "can", but that they "want to". Yes we do scenario: 62 is Mushroom Bridge since it's the simplest of all 3 GCNs in terms of turns, but at least it has the shortcut, bridge, sidewalk, and also two more car types that could make it interesting-ish. I think the car types *could* warrant it being after Highway. Especially since the bomb cars were originally present in the files before the BCP and were removed in an update. 66 is Dino Dino Jungle, because I think it's a better finisher even though the model is old, and we're already supposed to be carried by Wii RR in terms of fan favourites. It's here since we shouldn't have 2 GCN tracks in the same cup right after the other. This isn't a case of Tour starting and ending cups. 63 therefore is SNES BC3. Uhhh nice of you to skip to the end (or not) thanks for clicking on the read more button =]
@Kilbylol11 ай бұрын
Imagine if the other GCN track was GCN Luigi Circuit
@chrissi_1081 Жыл бұрын
My predictions: Acorn Cup Tour Rome Avanti SNES Bowser's Castle 3 Piranha Plant Pipeline Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup Tour Madrid Drive GCN Dino DIno Jungle DS Airship Fortress Wii Rainbow Road Characters: Diddy Kong + King Bob Omb
@stephenrichter894011 ай бұрын
Toad's factory would still be a fairly hype ending to the bcp. Or especially as a replacement for the previously thought game cube track
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
Replace that with piranha plant cove
@Walooigi Жыл бұрын
No way im in the shoutouts ‼️ 15:35 -i feel targetted :waahaa:-
@firegoatdx6869 Жыл бұрын
Acorn Cup: 1. Rome Avanti 2. DK Mountain 3. Airship Fortress 4. Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: 1. Madrid Drive 2. Piranha Plant Pipeline 3. Bowser Castle 3 4. WII Rainbow Road Personally I would like Dino Dino jungle but I think DK mountain is more likely. I also personally couldn’t decide between Dry Dry Ruins, Rosalina’s Ice world, or Airship Fortress so I picked the one that I would want the most. I also don’t really care about the order the tracks come in aside from the city’s, cove, and rainbow road
@cheesy2929 Жыл бұрын
This is the most in depth video of any Mario Kart predictions I have ever seen, I love it! Maybe you could make a video of the Mario Kart DS or Wii Retro lineups and maybe try to improve them? I mean, We can all agree they are not the best lineups haha.
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
I'll consider it! Already have a couple other projects in the pipeline (Tour reference) so it might be a while.
@cheesy292911 ай бұрын
@@LasagneProductions As long as you have the right ideas in the slide, pipeway, cove & pipeline, its allright :P
@mailpaper775410 ай бұрын
My predictions Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti - Wii Daisy Circuit (confirmed) - GCN DK Mountain - Piranha Plant Pipeline Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive - Piranha Plant Cove - SNES Bowser's Castle 3 - Wii Rainbow Road
@bob17111 ай бұрын
Wave 6: Acorn Cup: -Tour Madrid Drive -GCN DK Mountain -3DS Rosalina's Ice World -Pirahna Plant Pipeline Spiny Cup: -Tour Rome Avanti -Pirahna Plant Cove -SNES Bowser Castle 3 -Wii Rainbow Road If not 3DS Rosalina's Ice World, DS Airship Fortress would make sense. Rosalina's Ice World makes sense since its a winter track, releasing likely near Christmas, and its a Special Cup track
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
No ice tracks fire tracks
@bob1719 ай бұрын
Well this aged extremely well.
@mallow4460 Жыл бұрын
My predictions for the wave 6 are a little diff talking abt characters... So ill first say my tracks predictions and then the characters, where it changes a little 🌰Acorn Cup🌰 Tour Rome Avanti DS Airship Fortress SNES Bowser Castle 3 Piranha Plant Cove 🐢Spiny Cup🔵 Tour Madrid Drive GCN DK Mountain Piranha Plant Pipeline Wii Rainbow Road 👸Characters👷 Pauline (Confirmed) Diddy Kong (Half Confirmed?) Ok now heres where it changes It makes no sense to have Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach as different slots when they are the same characters than Mario and Peach but with powerups, so i say that they will become alts for Mario and Peach (Only them because Metal Mario has golden Mario and was a diff character in sports game, Pink Gold Peach wont too because shes not a Peach powerup and was in a sports game before, dry bowser was his own character on wii and at this point he is his own mario kart character, inklings i dont think they will become 1 and villagers too) About the stats problem, i dont think its all that problematic because if they used to have 2 villagers in the same slot with diff stats, they can do the same to tanooki mario and cat peach Ok but who will get their slots? I think one slot will go to Funky or Dixie, because ik Funky is all this favorite character with alot of people, but im sure nintendo likes Dixie more, so the 2 of them are likely to get 1 of the slots And R.O.B could get the other to fill that no mario games row, or nintendo could just ignore that and add a mario character, like Nabbid, Hammer Bros, Honey Queen, and between other options too Well i would like this character thing to happen because having 2 marios and 2 peaches isnt ok, the metals are an excuse because atleast they appeared with the og mario and peach before, but the tanooki and cat outfits are just powerups, so not only this would make the roster rlly better, but it would also make more sense
@jamiepiccione385310 ай бұрын
I think it's gonna be the GBA Bowser Castle instead of SNES cause they've always brought back a GBA Bowser Castle since they started doing retro tracks in Mario Kart DS. DS: GBA Bowser Castle 2 Wii: GBA Bowser Castle 3 3DS: GBA Bowser Castle 1 They haven't done GBA Bowser Castle 4 yet "Not counting tour" so they've gotta bring it back.
@LasagneProductions10 ай бұрын
yeah I used to think the same until Wave 4 was revealed lol
@martodila11 ай бұрын
Well you did it, you predict daisy circuit
@aidenemerson67011 ай бұрын
And he might've just predicted the rest too
@therhythmdragon11 ай бұрын
I have a theory tied to a really cool track idea I have. That Wii track that was supposed to end wave 6 did end up becoming Moonview Highway, leaving the final track as something a little more original. My idea is that wave 6 will end with a combination Rainbow Road with the first lap replicating the one from Double Dash, the second lap is the one from DS, and the third lap is the one from Wii. Your thoughts?
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
that is a cool idea, but as a theory I don't think much of it.
@StandardKarting11 ай бұрын
Brilliant video mate, keep it up!
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
much appreciated!
@cpcantimark11 ай бұрын
personally i don't think they scrapped a tour course in the bcp i'm 100% set on them not having cnsw_63 locked when wave 1 launched and when they selected a 7th wii course they had to move at least 1 (aka treeway moving to wave 3) also i never mentioned this outside of like 1 server but i was expecting the chance of one of the three wave 6 blanks to be a retro that nintendo could move to wave 5 and throw people off (and then they moved moonview to wave 5 lol) with both of these things in mind, i believe mushroom bridge was at least initially intended for the bcp and when moonview was selected slightly later they decided to scrap bridge
@Jerome7jay7 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid, man. I hope your channel grows. Predicting courses is fun so I'll bite... Acorn Cup Madrid Drive Mushroom Bridge Piranha Plant Pipeline Bowser Castle 3 Spiny Cup Rome Avanti Dino Dino Jungle Piranha Plant Cove Rainbow Road
@RiftComix Жыл бұрын
These predictions are so well structured and researched, I genuinely thought you had over 5k subs. You deserve WAY more attention, keep up the good work! (Also I’m happy to be your 50th subscriber!) I will put my Wave 6 predictions here. (If you guys have any questions ask me in reply’s) *ACORN CUP* Madrid Drive [TOUR] Bowser Castle 3 [SNES] Airship Fortress [DS] Piranha Plant Cove [NEW] *SPINY CUP* Rome Avanti [TOUR] DK Mountain [GCN] Piranha Plant Pipeline [NEW] Rainbow Road [Wii] *CHARACTERS* - Diddy Kong - Funky Kong
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support! Following up the runaway success of this video won't be easy but I'm sure as heck gonna try.
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
Piranha plant cove is shit
@mrdriver298811 ай бұрын
What I want to see is DS rainbow road along with Wii rainbow road but I know DS rainbow road won't make it 😢
@hoesmansupercolin3967 Жыл бұрын
Here's my predictions Acorn cup Tour Rome Avanti Gcn dk mountain SNES Bowser's castle 3 Tour piranha cove Spiny cup Tour Madrid drive Gcn Bower's castle Tour piranha pipe line Wii rainbow road
@FireFox-jc3oz11 ай бұрын
If it’s not any of the arcade Mario karts. Then it’s have to be rainbow Road from Mario Kart DD. And can we please have captain falcon to be the last racer it would be so sweet.
@micahfurlow262410 ай бұрын
DD rainbow road isn't in tour and Wii rainbow road is Rip DD rainbow road, hope it gets a remake in 9 at the very least🙏😔
@thatdovick2911 ай бұрын
imagine what the chats reaction would be if they teased wii daisy circuit on the september direct lmao
Reasoning: Rome Avanti - a city track Piranha Plant Cove - it’s honestly the simplest track of the wave (still good) SNES Bowser’s Castle 3 - a good 3rd spot, and it’s more challenging than Cove in my opinion DK Mountain - a fan favorite that could end the 4th slot, like Maple Treeway and Waluigi Pinball Madrid Drive - a city track Piranha Plant Piepline - a good 2nd slot, like Slide in the Lightning Cup Airship Fortress - a Bowser themed track that’s challenging, and it’s very different from BC3 visually Wii Rainbow Road - I don’t need to explain this one
@LasagneProductions Жыл бұрын
Piranha Plant Cove twice..? What a unique prediction! just gonna assume you meant Pipeline for the second one xd
@JKV2500 Жыл бұрын
@@LasagneProductionsyeah, just a typo😅
@widojay204811 ай бұрын
I really want dino dino jungle
@TempoKong9 ай бұрын
The only thing you didn't predict is the stupidest decision of the bcp to remove a Tour track, congratulations
@trgnf3393 Жыл бұрын
Those bastards better not put in bridge. I need me some more 3ds rep.
@mauricioruiz4776 Жыл бұрын
And N64 rep.
@Ben.Byng1711 ай бұрын
Do you think Toads factory is out of the question for wave 6 rather than Daisy Circuit?
@LasagneProductions11 ай бұрын
sadly I do think it's out of the question. Tour's internal data indicates that we've reached the end of new courses for the foreseeable future, and all courses in the BCP must come from Tour.
@speedstarregeneration257311 ай бұрын
Well imo SNES BC3 looks like shit. At least GBA BC4 has a interesting idea going for it. This track on the other hand looks like a slightly elevated boring repeat of other Bowser Castle takes. Then again the SNES tracks have always been weak compared to what came since. Just be aware that this means it wont come back in the next game or that they can always go back to the original flat tracks. Im just sick and tired of seeing it everywhere.
@thebluebowser5720 Жыл бұрын
I really wish we get Wario Colosseum in the game instead of any of the other 3 GCN Tracks in tour and i don't care if it has the same song as Waluigi Stadium
@Durtle. Жыл бұрын
DK mountain is my bet
@thebluebowser5720 Жыл бұрын
@@Durtle. i mean there is always a surprise track
@Durtle. Жыл бұрын
@@thebluebowser5720 well there is two choices for gcn
@thebluebowser5720 Жыл бұрын
@@Durtle. technily 3 but yeah the GCN choises are kinda lame in my opinion First is the Jungle Version of DK Summit but with boulders, then Mushroom Bridge which is another trafic course but with the wiggler busses and the big ass bridge and Dino Dino Jungle now it's not a bad track it's just that there are better picks like wario colosseum or maybe the bowser's castle but the things we have is the things we are getting
@EmmaViv11 ай бұрын
This list looking VERY good after the Direct
@Thefly-vh8tv Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I understand people's argument of DIno Dino and DK Mountain being 2 Jungle courses, but at the same time, there's always the potential of both of them being here. I mean, they were in back to back cups in the the original game that only had 16 tracks total, so why not here. I don't think it will be happen but if they do bring back 2 GameCube Tracks, having these 2 would be better than Bridge taking one of those spots. And a similar argument could be made with DK Mountain and Summit. Both were in Wii, as well as Maple Treeway with the cannon.
@Hu55a4in11 ай бұрын
Both for Sam music so dino dino jungle it is
@oliverorchard6774 Жыл бұрын
I reckon we'll see Dino Dino Jungle over DK Mountain because we already have DK Summit from wave 4, which is just a winter version of DK Mountain.
@JKV2500 Жыл бұрын
Both were in Wii though
@papyrussemi284811 ай бұрын
My own bets are: Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti GBA Luigi Circuit SNES Bowser's Castle 3 Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN DK Mountain Piranha Plant Pipeline (why did they call it that?) Wii Rainbow Road
@teeweezeven11 ай бұрын
I'm still hoping, begging, that either Mario or Luigi circuit will be in the next tour and hence in MK8DX. We got all the other circuit themes in the game, I want the Wii one :(