Going to reiterate it again just so people understand this: when I say MK9, I say that as a follow up to Mario Kart 8. This is not to take anything away from Tour - but it is structured completely differently from the rest of the main series when it comes to how courses are handled in this series. There just is not much of a reason to bring it up here for that reason, as mentioned at 1:25.

With the bcp, its been a mix of fan favorites and forgotten/disliked tracks. Honestly, them saving some of the fan favorites makes sense. If you burn through them all now, the only ones left for the next game are all the disliked tracks. Plus, if you focus only on fan favorites, then you will eventually run into burn out with them and it'll turn into the whole charizard situation.

Unpopular opinion, but i would love Delfino Square to make a return, if not just for the music

I dream of seeing Mushroom City, Wario Colosseum, and Toad's Factory in the next Mario Kart.

Your point about front loading early retro cups with newer tracks is also probably why Toad's Factory hasn't been remade yet. They need to save it for a shell/banana cup slot to they don't get forced to double up on game sources in a cup haha

Even though we're not counting tour its important to note that the stages(and characters) have to at least be in tour in some form to be in BCP Like delfeno,toads factory, wario coliseum arent in tour in anyway in the files so i have 0 expectations for them to be in BCP since the internal name for tour is "booster"

Also to note is that they have to make some of the first time or multiple-time retros to perfectly insert the new and/or returning gimmicks established by Wii, 3DS, and 8, beings tricks, underwater, gliding, and anti-gravity. The most notable example would be GCN Wario Colosseum, the track design itself would greatly benefit the anti-gravity and trick mechanics due to how bumpy and windy the layout is. And whatever new gimmick they'll add in the next game, they have to make sure some of the retros can make use of that.

It would be cool if the SNES levels had a portal at the goal that takes you to it's sequel level each lap. So imagine racing on Bowser Castle 1 on the first lap, then you go through a portal on lap 2 taking you to Bowser Castle 2, and then the final lap is Bowser Castle 3! I know it's kind of late since they already have SNES levels but maybe an idea for Mario Kart 9.

I think they *might* break the "first-time retros only for base game" rule in MK9, but for courses that returned only in Tour and also DS. Maybe Wii too, but it might be too much. It would at least increase the potential pool of retro courses to remake in a reasonable way. Would like to see Frappe Snowland and Banshee Boardwalk (alongside Wario Stadium ofc) remade in a modern game without being held back by the old design philosophy for retro courses and technical limitations.

Another point of this prediction about saving tracks for later is that it's not just MK64 who has few tracks left. MKWii has only seven (probably six), and three of them are circuits (Daisy Circuit is great though), MKDS only has THREE of them (Figure-8 Circuit, Bowser's Castle and DS Rainbow Road). MK7 has already been burned of nearly half of its line-up as well. They NEEDED to get rid of many of the older GBA/SNES tracks NOW, or otherwise they'd be the only remaining games to remake from outside MK8 itself. They'd also have to start really paying attention to Star and Special Cup courses from the older 4 games, because otherwise they'll have to repeat games and even bring in second-time retros in the Leaf and Lightning Cup for future games, so they'll probably heavily lean into including them more, especially since they already bled three of the best selections of tracks dry.

I personally would like to see Mario Kart 9 repeat a few retro tracks actually. Like if we had Luigi Circuit from Double Dash return in glorious HD alongside Sky Garden and Sunset Wilds with their layouts restored.

Incredible video. You succinctly summed up my thoughts perfectly.

I don’t know, Im still thinking that mk9 is going to be very different. With how Mario kart is also seen as getting derivative, changing it up a bit would be the right call. Maybe mk9 wont even have retro courses. With how they changed up the next 2D Mario game (wonder) giving mario kart the oddessy treatment might just happen.

Im gonna make a bold statement and say ds mario circuit deserves the spot as a circuit track. Its honestly the most humble track imo as far as circuit tracks go but its not a track so simplified that its like luigi raceway. And im just as happy we got this track because it was one of my favorites from ds. (Also side note it was one of the tracks I predicted from the start)

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I'm unbelievably confused how Nintendo had sidestepped EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE BOWSER'S CASTLE option to bring back in Mario Kart 8. Like if they throw a curveball and choose Vanilla Lake or something for the last wave (IMAGINE if they fumbled that hard), Mario Kart 8 would STILL remain the only post-retro cup addition game in the series where there is only one Bowser's Castle, the nitro one. Even after 96 tracks.

Fun fact: whenever nintendo says fan favorite tracks, they actually mean THEIR favorite tracks!!!!!

I don't believe the whole idea that Mario Kart will become Nintendo Kart.

GCN Wario Coliseum Wii Toad Factory 3DS Rosalina's Ice World GBA & GCN & DS Rainbow Road I'd like to see these tracks preserved until MK9！

it make big sense to save the popular retro courses for MK9 on the next console. that is a big way to increase sales

I think it’s definitely interesting looking at what courses have/haven’t been remade yet to try to predict what we’ll get in the future. Although unrelated to the BCP or MK9, I do think every pre-mk8 nitro course will eventually at least be added to tour.

Finally someone that puts high quality frontrunning background footage, seeing someone not knowing how to delay drift is so painful. Jokes aside, nice vid

The Mario Kart Tour maps are always a lot less fun to play than all the other ones.

I'll be honest that BCP is based on Tour, but for new Mario Kart game there will be more not yet remade outside of BCP or inside. While new Mario Kart game have Free Update will have 4 cups including replacement cups. New Mario Kart game will have BCP for sure!

I think the reason is as simple as they don’t want every fan favorite to return in the BCP so that they can save some for MK9 that we haven’t seen before or in a long time that fans love.

That's very true! I really wanted: -N64 DK Jungle Parkway -DS Airship Fortress -DS Luigi's Mansion -3DS Shy Guy Bazaar -GBA Bowser's Castle 1 -GCN Luigi Circuit -Wii Toad's Factory -DS DK Pass -GBA Luigi Circuit -N64 Bowser's Castle But unfortunately Nintendo is putting banger tracks!

Finally, a man of culture bringing some light to Wario Colosseum.

I'm surprised that you put wii Toads factory and GCN wario Colosseum in it. But I want 3DS Wario shipwreck, gcn DK Mountain, gcn mushroom bridge and wii rainbow road in it as well

Nice Video Bro!😊😊😊

I consider Tour mainline solely for the fact that it features courses from past games. None of the arcade games or Live: Home Circuit feature any courses or similar content like karts from first-party installments, while Tour relies heavily on the rest of the series in addition to providing its own new content, just like previous games. It's just structured very differently

Sometime ago I made my own Retro Grand Prix of the next Mario Kart game: (Edited on 14/9/2023) Shell Cup: Figure-8 Circuit (Mario Kart DS) Koopa Troopa Beach 1 (Super Mario Kart) Sweet Sweet Canyon (Mario Kart 8) Toad's Factory (Mario Kart Wii) Banana Cup: Wuhu Loop (Mario Kart 7) Mario Circuit 4 (Super Mario Kart) Sunshine Airport (Mario Kart 8) Mushroom City (Mario Kart Double Dash) Leaf Cup: Dry Dry Ruins (Mario Kart Wii) Broken Pier (Mario Kart Super Circuit) Electrodrome (Mario Kart 8) Maka Wuhu (Mario Kart 7) Lightning Cup: Wario Stadium (Mario Kart 64) Cloudtop Cruise (Mario Kart 8) Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart DS) Rainbow Road (Mario Kart Super Circuit)

Heyyy I see that Wario City theme choice 🤩

Wario Collesum is the better Wario/Walugi track in Double Dash yet they’ve never beogubt it back

I'm hyped to see 2 more confusing Tour tracks, 1 original track, 3 disliked/forgotten tracks and 2 ok tracks remade just well enough so we don't feel like we're being starved for the final two cups :D

i hope that sometime in my lifetime a mario kart game will come out with literally every track from the series, including the arcade gp ones and all five mario kart snes ones. i want to sit down and play through the entire track catalogue in one handy game

I hope we see the RMX tracks from Tour again. So they won’t become lost media.

What bothers me so much about Nintendo is how much they ignore and neglect various parts of Mario's history. They could have a track based on Sahasra land, a track based on Buoy Base galaxy, or a track based on a level from one of the Wario Land games, a track based on Ricco Harbor, they could bring in obscure characters like Wart, maybe some characters from WarioWare, but instead they think the way to innovate and make Mario Kart more interesting is to turn it into Smash Kart. Ugh

I hope we don’t only see one N64 track in MK9. There are some tracks from that game that are due for another remake. Like Frappe Snowland, Banshee Boardwalk, DK’s Jungle Parkway, and Bowser’s Castle. These all came back before we got the new racing mechanics

I still think airship fortress not being in the bcp is weird cause that course was already remade in 7, if it wasn’t remade it would be more understandable but it’s odd, same with Luigi’s mansion for the same reasons, there both popular courses that already had a remake and most likely won’t get remade in the next game

for mkx I want: all of tours d/k/g ported over ar glasses support like on the bowsers challenge ride, vr would be sick too w gyro an open world w challenging levels or something different

Funny how the Blue Falcon is in the files of tour...

What in tarnation!! Moonview Highway in in MK8 now?

Hey man, big fan of the channel was just wondering if u needed a thumbnail designer as i would love to help all good if u want to make your own plus I'm still learning to do them :)

Very interesting topic

I personally just wait for the Wii sports races

I do really hope there’ll be some final Mario kart for 10 cause that makes sense and it gets every Mario kart course ever cause that would just be sick, might mean a bunch of dlc which might be scary for newcomers which wouldn’t be great but who cares

5:09 I hope the Summoning Salt reference was intentional too :)

I only like mario circuit 3 in this game and in wii since its really fun to play on higher cc's, its nice to have a track where you can play on 200cc without having to brake on every corner same goes for snes rainbow road and a handful of other tracks.

Your Tour profile shot is poising my eyes ONLY because you need to finish off those base points my dude! Oh how badly I wanna analyze and inspect your account and give some tips!

Love the Mario sluggers music, easily one of my favorite wii games

I’m really sad we don’t get to see 3DS or Wii rainbow road in MK9 but it makes sense

This reminds me of Smash speculation in a good way Do you think WGM was better with damaging minecarts or antigrav?

I think your right about the next game only having 1st time retros (ignore every tour track already returning in the bc) initially but I wonder what will happen in the next game after that because at least 1 game would get no representation (N64) if it was also only 1st time retros in the initial 4 retro cups

I need my goddamn banshee boardwalk

I need at least two new Bowser Castles in the Wave 6 and last one 😢

I can already envision Nintendo adding GBA Cheep Cheep Island and BC4 to Mario Kart 9 claiming them to be first-time retros and all of the Tour fans start to "um acktually" the reveal trailer.

You make a good point about how the vast majority of first time retros in the Booster Course Pass have been underrated or disliked courses. I'm honestly starting to accept the possibility of Daisy Circuit now, because it definitely wasn't a fan favourite and would like nice for a second course of the Acorn Cup (this is my assumption that Mushroom Bridge isn't coming which for many reasons it'd be a weird choice now). I personally wanted to predict Dry Dry Ruins here, but it deserves to be in the original spotlight of a new game, so if they go that route it'll be a beautiful lightning cup track next time

Replace every single Mario Kart Tour Map with the ones we want. I wish it was this easy...×_×

It still doesn't explain the lack of bowser castles. If they're being saved for later then there will be an overabundance of them in the next game, as DS is guaranteed for the next time, and/or GCN (The latter of which might've even been planned for the BCP but was scrapped early in development) and wii has potential to return, and that's not even mentioned BC4 which got a glowup in tour unlike any other track in general. Criminal that's not going to be in the BCP. I know i didn't mention 3ds but that's a mediocre bc and a recent one too that's already been remade in tour so I'm less bothered about its fate

I wouldn't be surprised if MK9 starts off with 10 cups, 5 new and 5 retro, by adding the egg/bell cup from the WII U DLC into the middle of the cup selections for each, also my picks for a MK9 retro selection would be: Shell Cup GCN Luigi Circuit N64 Moo Moo Farm 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar WII U Thwomp Ruins Banana Cup DS Delfino square WII Toad's Factory GBA Cheep Cheep Island Switch Ninja Hideaway Bell Cup SNES Mario Circuit 4 GCN Mushroom City Switch Yoshi's Island N64 Wario Stadium Leaf Cup GCN Dino Dino Jungle 3DS Wario Shipyard DS airship Fortress GBA Bowser's Castel 4 Lightning Cup WII Dry Dry Ruins WII U Dragon Driftway DS Bowser Castel GBA Rainbow Road DLC 1 (Propeller/Rock Cup) WII U Electrodrome N64 Banshee Boardwalk SNES Vanilla Lake 2 3DS Wuhu Loop DLC 2 (Boomerang/cherry Cup) GBA Lakeside Park GCN Wario Colosseum DS Luigi's Mansion WII Bowser's Castel

I asked for either of the DS circuits in the DLC :)

r.i.p people that want all rainbow roads in the booster pass

The reason is probably just because the courses aren't in tour and aren't planned to be, since the courses are just ported directly from tour.

Question: is BCP just Nintendo's way of preserving Tour tracks in case if Tour shuts down eventually?

A prediction is that each of the retro cups in MK9 will have a GBA track as Nintendo realized that they stumbled across a gold mine when remaking Cheese Land and Ribbon Road for Wii U DLC. This also shows as GBA has gotten the second most amount of retros in Tour only to SNES and it got a healthy amount of love in the BCP as well. Because GBA Rainbow Road is going to be next on the list, they might as well give Super Circuit the spotlight like what they did with Mario Kart 64 on Mario Kart 8 Wii U.

Wait, are you saying it’s likely now that Mario Kart is going to essentially become Nintendo Kart going forward? Where did you get this idea from?

As long as the next mario kart has lakeside park and mario circuit 4 ill be good

I feel like they could bring the RMX tracks to MK9

idk man but what I'm holding out hope for is Wuhu Loop

I remember in 2017 when I called Nintendo for real, not a joke, I called the number i found on my 3DS and recommended my Mario Kart 9 ideas to Nintendo. I was so stupid even if I did call Nintendo...

Ok but to me this raises another question. When the time comes, will MK8 tracks be “Wii U” or “Switch”?

I’m still hoping for a BCP2

If this does happen, i need lakeside park

Tour is Mario kart 9

I just want Yoshi Falls

There's still no excuse for having ZERO retro Bowser Castles at all. Also, since DS Airship Fortress was already featured in Mario Kart 7, even with your theory, it absolutely should've been in the BCP. Like seriously, where the crap is it?

Dk mountain should have been in by now

My huge hope for Mario Kart 10 (I feel that MK9 is Tour): Customization for characters. Would be great to add costumes and can even have costume dlc. Love the huge selection of tracks in MK8, and loving the original stages in the dlc, so im excited to see what new things theyll add next. I bet theyll create a bigger MK to sell a lot of Switch 2 consoles.

we would most likely get mario kart 9 on the next nintendo console

I don't think they're coming Let's hope they're in Mario kart 9

All I want is Wii Rainbow Road

The fact that you're even considering Wario Colosseum makes me question the logic followed here, because it's pretty obvious that every track up until now has been ported from Tour, and seeing how Wario Colosseum isn't in Tour, there's aprox. a 0% chance to see that track in 8's DLC. Also, I don't think it was necessary to have such a long explanation for the Rainbow Roads, they most likely just wanted to have a Rainbow Road as the final track of each row, and for the 2022 and 2023's holidays, that's it. Also, those 2 are the only Rainbow Roads in Tour, so there's that also.

I just want a mario kart allstars for switch with 64, Double Dash and Wii.

They could go further. package MK8DX again for the next hardware, coming next year, and just bring all the dlc courses up to current visual standards. maybe even bundled into the cross-gen-upgrade patch. There are enough courses left they could do a booster pass 2 for it. There is even cheap ways for them to extend the life of the game with remixed cups of existing courses. a summer beach cup, a bowser cup, a boo's haunted cup, a rainbow road cup, a winter wonderland cup. I doubt anyone would complain about those cheap ways to extend the game's life. add some extra plyables in and you have this game going for another few years

I think the tour tracks took up a lot of the booster pass

i think something they should consider is have the tour city tracks have their individual tracks instead of cramming 3-4 different tracks into one whole track

Double dash courses on life support

As a handy reference for folks, here are all 21 tracks from Mario Kart 1-7 that have NEVER been remade in 3D! SNES Mario Circuit 4 SNES Bowser Castle 1 SNES Bowser Castle 2 SNES Koopa Beach 1 SNES Ghost Valley 3 N64 Wario Stadium GBA Broken Pier GBA Rainbow Road GCN Mushroom City GCN Wario Colosseum GCN Bowser's Castle GCN Rainbow Road DS Figure-8 Circuit DS Bowser Castle DS Rainbow Road Wii Luigi Circuit Wii Toad's Factory Wii Mario Circuit Wii Bowser's Castle 3DS Wuhu Loop 3DS Maka Wuhu Great video by the way! I disagree about the mystery course existing, but that's not really relevant to the video topic.

please keep using the sluggers music oh my god

*sees thumbnail* Wait, Wario Colosseum is a fan favorite? I thought it was just me and like three people I know who like that track. Literally. That's awesome to learn.

I know Wii Rainbow Road is coming, and that is one of my absolute favorite tracks! But I really want to see GCN Wario Colosseum, DS Luigi's Mansion, GBA Bowser's Castle 2, 3 and 4, And even more. But I don't know which other ones though.

We need wario shipyard

I think a new style Mario Kart would be cool like bringing 2D back!

The 5 tracks that i want the most not in any order is Toads factory Dry Dry ruins Mushroom city for the music Airship fortress Luigis Mansion Delfino sqaure Frappe Snowland Warios collesium shut up i know thats 8 theres alot more tracks i want. Like every track.

It's hilarious how barely anyone gave a dam about Wario Colosseum 20 years ago yet now everyone wants it back because it's one of the few tracks that haven't been remade. Know where to draw the line guys.

I would hate a „Nintendo Kart“, there’s so many Mario characters I want to be playable and so many specific places from Mario games that need representation. Like, look at the GameCube Mario Tennis and Golf games, they had stages based on Sunshine levels, Luigi’s Mansion, Mario Bros. Arcade, and even Donkey Kong Country and WarioWare. Imagine if the next MK game went all out on specific references, some Odyssey worlds, a Bowser‘s Fury level, some pixel retro track and a Galaxy inspired stage other than Rainbow Road. They already started doing that with Booster courses like Yoshi’s Island and that’s hype. Just gimme some Wario Land track and throw n something inspired by the upcoming Peach game and I‘m sold.

IMO I feel like whenever they finally decide to make Mario Kart 9, it would be best if they just added every Mario Kart track in history (à la Smash Ultimate) and redefine the brand by having it represent multiple Nintendo franchises with their courses and characters. I genuinely think it'd be the greatest step forward the franchise as a whole could take.

There is no way for them to do only original retro tracks in the next game unless they only want 1 N64 track and 1-2 GCN tracks, two of these 3 potential tracks being Wario and Stadium-esque themed, also another reason for bringing in some lesser known GBA tracks could be because they just feel they deserve a rermake more...

The only tracks that have not been remade are : mario circuit 4, Ghost valley 3, snes bowser's castle 1 and 2,koopa beach 1,wario stadium,broken Pier,gba rainbow road,wario Coloseum, mushroom city,gcn bowser's castle,gcn rainbow road, figure 8 circuit,ds bowser's castle,ds rainbow road,wii luigi circuit,wii mario circuit,wii bowser's castle,toad factory,maka wuhu,wuhu loop,piranha plant pipeline, and all 8's nitros

it's Wario Colosseum