Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 What’s Happening to Men’s Testosterone Levels? 03:40 How Important is Testosterone? 09:45 Why This Negatively Affects Both Partners 17:03 Link Between Testosterone & Sperm Count 19:04 Statistics on Sperm Count Over Time 24:09 The Social Impact of Lower Fertility 33:58 Using Chemicals to Alter Hormones 42:35 How a Mother’s Food Impacts Her Baby 48:28 Lifestyle Changes to Avoid Toxicity 57:15 Effectiveness of Reverse Osmosis Filters 1:00:19 How Bad Chemicals Impact Behaviour 1:10:35 Men & Women’s Reproductive Success As They Age 1:13:28 Future of Fertility in Humanity 1:22:03 Where to Find Shanna

"we have done very little testing of testosterone levels over the years." Gee. I'm shocked that a male issue is largely ignored by academia and researchers. Kinda like prostate cancer funding.

More processed food, more drugs, less sleep, less exercise, less sunlight, more microplastics, etc.

Lack of sunlight and fresh air, lack of proper sleep, too much alcohol, too much weed, lack of physical activity, excess consumption of trash food, a ridiculous amount of young men who are overweight or obese, lack of social connections, lack of a dating life, lack of sex with a real person, lack of confidence, lack of accomplishment, etc. Not that much of a mystery.

I love how she doesn't dither on the importance of normal male neuro/physiological development, and her wonderful sense of humor about it at the same time. Women's reproductive care gets so much attention in comparison, we should be so grateful for what she and her team have been doing on the side of men and boys.

The internet and media is making me crazy. People are all talking about all this bad stuff happening to people yet no one really cares enough to do anything. It’s maddening watching the species and society decline and being unable to do anything.

87 years old and still very concise, amazing

I say the main culprits are 1) Majority of men are consuming ultra processed foods; seed oils, sugars, sweeteners, dyes, preservatives, refined wheat, and a big one fast food meals multiple times a week. 2) consuming narcotics and alcohol 3) Not active outside getting sunlight Vitamin D. 4) overprescribed anxiety and depression meds, antibiotics, other medications. 5) cleaning chemicals/lotions/soaps/lavenders coming in contact with the skin.

I love how these podcasts/videos always jump straight in, no over the top intro or ads, just right into the good stuff.

I stopped anti depressant and took action to my gluten intorelance. My sperm count and motility shot up like crazy. I went from 10 million units to 75 million units. I stopped drinking. Never do drugs. This problem can be helped still I think, we just need to be aware of ourselves.

Wish I knew all this before I had kids. My babies are still young and I’ve been on a mission to decrease our plastics for a while now. I love my cast iron cookware and glass mason jars.

Chris, this podcast is massively informative. My 4 sons are about to hit puberty & this has greatly informed the implications of their fertility & life progression. Really appreciate it, man.

Financial stressors are huge in men's lives in particular, job security has plummeted, opportunities for blue collar workers that pay a living wage have gone down the toilet. So this takes out a entire level of society that used to be able to pay their way, no longer able to to have a dependable wage that supports a family, homes that cost so much that both partners have to work in order to afford a home, child care that costs more than wages. This leads to poor nutrition and drug taking through demoralisation, broken families etc when stressors are not relieved but become chronic. Men and women are acting pragmatically as a result, not having children they cannot support. When automation/AI is taking out whole swathes of jobs, now including white collar work, how are people supposed to support themselves let alone a family?

I love how excited this woman is!! So cute. Someone who truly loves their work is refreshing!!

1) Cosmetic preservatives. 2) Plastics. 3) Tap water (High estrogen= Hormonal disruption/feninization) 4) Junk Food. 5) Sedentary lifestyle. 6) Medication (Opioids and Statins in particular) 7) Alcohol and smoking.

When my testosterone dropped, I started feeling better. Because I hated the overwhelming desire for women I could not attain.

1. Plastics 2. Hormonal disruption 3. Processed foods 4. the _feminine_ problem 5. a society that hates them

Amazing work, Dr. Swan thank you

Depends on how deep you want to go down the rabbit hole on plastics. I have a microfarm and still use poly tubes in the drip irrigation, hoses, etc... nano plastics going into the ground. large greenhouses are covered with UV treated plastics that still degrade overtime. Cover over fields with "silage tarps", black plastic to kill off the old growth and then broad fork it to aerate it, plant it again with micro-greens, but the ground has plastic from all this... These are all standard organic practices. We talk in the community about how to reduce plastic, but it's not feasible to do without them and make a living... food is too cheap, we get priced out by industrialized farms. eh... not to mention the polyester shirts I wear... usually mixed, but some of them are 100%. My dystopian dream is that a plastic eating bacteria is released into the environment and as I type this the keyboard melts away and my clothes, suddenly I'm naked and nothing works... LOL, Back to the trees! Sounds like a good B rated movie. Maybe AI can make it for me? As far as health though... I was a little disappointed they didn't talk about detox and whether there are ways to detox from all this crap? it's in the air... The lint from the dryer is a large part polyester and just flies up in your faces when you move it to the trash.... We gotta detox somehow.

Chris I really love this podcasts of "non-youtube" guests! It brings a new perspective to certain topics. Thanks!

The world seems strange to me. At the age of 8, I felt grateful. For my future, I had three thoughts of serving a tour in the military, going to college, and helping others. Between the age of 10 and 11, there was much hatred expressed toward me. I changed my future thoughts to getting a decent job, marrying a good woman, and making the best for our children. That was in the 1960s.

The most compelling reason for me is the increasingly levels of complexity and stress of modern life. People are just tired all the time, and constantly under stress: this destroys people's health over time. Hormones influence behavior as much as behavior influence hormones. If we talk about why people don't procreate, it's also a matter of gender dynamics and lack of any reasonable structure. Men can't be masculine anymore, and can't fill any of their traditional roles. Women live in lalala land thanks to toxic feminism and men are just not compelled to commit and become parents.

Thank you Dr. Swan!! You are so interesting and you are truly engaging! Thank you Chris! Great prep and questions.

Brilliant discussion, thanks guys

Fascinating info.. and love this Dr. ❤

Bless this woman. If I get treatment I owe her and her work a ton.

The movie Children of Men seems to be prophetic.

I'm so glad we're talking about testosterone. I would LOVE for Chris' team to invite a male fertility doctor to discuss some of the malignant myths going on about male fertility. It drops around the same time as women and older sperm also contributes to the rise in mental and physical handicaps/disabilities and neurodivergent conditions like autism and Down's Syndrome. I've only seen one other men's focused podcast discuss it in-depth which is shameful.

Great episode!

I'm from south Korea and your pod cast is good to me thx

Distilled water isn't a great idea because it removes most of the minerals in the water( calcium and magnesium). Water purified in this way can leach the minerals out of your body. You need the minerals in the water almost as much as you need the water. If you have a way to remineralize the water after distilling it, it would be fine. You can drink distilled water if you're in a pinch but I wouldn't recommend doing it over the long term. I am a water plant operator in the state of Texas. The main reason we do not treat water in this way is because it is way too expensive. Most of our water in the state of Texas is purified through means of filtration and disaffection using cl2. 14% of our water in Texas comes from groundwater( water wells) tho it is not necessary for a disinfectant to be added to groundwater the state of Texas requires the water have a chlorine residual. The company I work for does not use fluoride at all so no worries on that. But if you drink the tap water out here you are definitely drinking a very small amount of chlorine, not to mention most of the water is distributed through plastic pipes, PVC for the mains & poly tubing for the tap lines.

Most interesting conversation on the channel so far

It is insane how many factors impact Sperm Count and Testosterone Levels. Working on improving that give you lots of positive benefits as a male. They should teach this in School in Biology (even though it's highly unlikely for this to happen because of a certain outrage). Super Podcast. Highly appreciated.

Unfortunately this is not the only reason re birth rates abd family formation, ideological and societal reasons play a role as well. IMO

Dr Shanna Swan is such a gem😅😅😅

Testosterone dropping is concerning but it also isn't the entire story either. Some men 400ng/l grow muscles and others don't. For sperm as long as it's not actually low T you should be fine. The biggest problem is sperm quality and I don't believe it's entirely tied to testosterone. I think some of it has to do with men sitting on their testicles all day and the warmth over long periods is having serious effects.

Tremendous interview, Dr. Swan & Chris. Thank you, Dr. Swan. You a bright light in a dark moment. ❤

I really like this lady.

Poor diet, lack of exercise, poisons in food, air, and water, and drug use/abuse (do antidepressants affect it?), perhaps even lack of sunshine and Vit D. If so, many of these factors can be corrected.

This actually happened in the Mouse Utopia Universe #25 experiment, so I don't think it's completely related to plastics or other environmental/chemical factors, and it actually might be some kind of psychosocial phenomenon that is so pervasive it affects biology on a macro scale like this. In baboons we see the markedly different cortisol, etc. levels of baboons at the bottom of the hierarchy, having vastly different health outcomes from the ones at the top, even though they eat roughly the same things (which are from nature and not saturated in chemicals [yet] to any degree of large disparity from the others in their same bands/tribes/etc.), and so we could be seeing the mass demoralization of men, where they mostly all see themselves at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy in mating terms to the point they aren't even viable mates, even if they're something like top 75th percentile in terms of holistic desirability to females, etc.

No wonder everyone wants to get on TRT, trying to avoid all these chemicals all the time seems way harder than a shot every week.

Severe lack of muscle mass and activity. I had a massive problem with muscle mass that I finally started to do something about near 2 years ago now. With consistent exercise (almost exclusively lifting) for 2 years I'm in a much better spot now. I don't know my actual T levels though.

I grew up on an organic dairy farm that milked with machines and there was very little plastic exposure. There were many glass tubes and stainless steel pipes

Im just a little bit skeptical on smoking having a huge effect on fertility (not advocating for smoking) because for quite a few generations both men and women smoked yet still managed to have large families...just an observation.

Men, Workout. If you can't afford to live off grid and you are consuming cooperate products, our test levels are going to go down. The best way to fight is workout!

The “Coupling” statement. 🙏🏽 Im so curious what my testosterone levels are as the tough-training woman that I am?

For the Berkey, they do have minimal plastic parts on the black filters (not sure about the white filters that they have) and spout is plastic but you can purchase a metal one.

Chris, this was good, and usually you do a great job of asking all the questions I myself am asking, but I must admit I was actually rather disappointed with this one. While I believe it's great to raise awareness of low T levels, phthalates, and low birth rates, I didn't find that much practical information I can take home in this one. Here's a list of questions I would have liked to hear: 1. What is an example of an ideal Anogenital Distance (AGD) at birth and what length AGD are we seeing among babies born today? 2. How does that correlate to a man's AGD as he ages? 3. What length AGD is ideal for a man in his teens, 20's 30's, etc? and what length AGD's are we seeing in these age groups currently? 4. How exactly do I go about measuring my own AGD? How do I know if my genitals have reached full masculinity? 5. Say my AGD is poor, is that something that is reversible? If I were to take Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Agrestis, how would my AGD change? Would it increase in size, stay the same? If it did stay the same, would my genitals at least become more masculine? Or would I just act more masculine with no change to my AGD or genitals? 6. Is glass the only option for water bottles or is stainless steel okay? (I'm resuming yes but it would've been nice to confirm) 7. Any recommendations for what to do if I have a glass or stainless steel bottle but the lid is plastic? 8. What about the plastic containers of objects I don't ingest but still touch my skin (i.e. Laundry detergent comes in plastic, I wash my clothes with that liquid, etc)? 9. How can I get involved? Is there some kind of petition I can sign to put some kind of legislation against these awful chemicals? 10. I'm assuming a tabletop distiller does remove phthalates, but does it remove the leftover birth control hormones from the water too? 11. What about clothes? A lot of clothes nowadays are made from plastic, polyester, nylon, surely there are phthalates in those too? 12. Should I try to avoid touching all plastic things? Things such as my mouse & keyboard, toothbrush, & phone case all come to mind. 13. Are there any other practical ways to get food without exposure to plastic? Sure, at a farmers market I can get fruit and vegetables, but what about bread, meat, mustard, cheese? Even at a local butcher, they package the meat in plastic. Lastly, I just want to say thank you for asking questions about this topic to begin with. As a man who has always wondered whether he is masculine enough (whether it be my personality or my mother's exposure to phthalates while I was in utero), it's one that has always been near and dear to my heart. Given that, keep in mind I am trying to be constructive with this comment and mean no ill will whatsoever. Just feel like there is more conversation to be had.Thank you!

I grew up very athletic and eating very healthy. In my family we cook a lot and don't eat processed foods often (cold cuts, processed snacks, etc.). I never smoked and drink very casually. I have kids and in my mid 40s I started feeling very tired all the time and experiencing other symptoms. I got checked and my urologist told me I had less testosterone in my body than a typical 80 year old man. I had to start testosterone injections. That changed my life back to what it used to be. Nobody seems to be able to explain why my body basically stopped producing testosterone. I personally believe it must be related to the food and water (agro-toxics, hormones, micro-plastics, etc.). I also have very high levels of stress (demanding profession).

I’ve been doing blood work every 4 months for the last 3 years. It’s amazing what you can learn about yourself to be proactive with your health. I’m 34 and my testosterone ranges from 690 to 950 on these tests.

I think the culture of microwaving and heating food in plastic is a big part of it. Would particularly apply in South Korea/Japan

Glad i feel and seem normal.

Very interested in this. To be totally honest, I had a zero sperm count and the Drs were way to nonchalant about it. They also had no clue as to how it happened and offered very little explanation. Fertility issues, both with men and woman, are not talked about enough.

41:00 She never said where the cheap samples come from. I wonder if its related with the sampling and testing measures in sewer systems. During the coof, Some states allowed cities or counties to test for DNA in the sewer systems.

Really surprised that obesity and exercise wasn't the first thing mentioned as reasons for average decline of test levels. Also would explain correlations with heart disease and diabetes the doctor mentions. Also young people seeing test as basically a safe steroid being used by all the influencers explains young usage.

thx

Regarding the milk extraction method, I thought those tubings are made out of polypropylene and it is plastic but doesn't leach any chemicals, even with heat. Like, same with coffee makers and things like that. So she's saying that's not true???

I actually had my testosterone checked this fall, where my total was 811 ng/dL and my free testosterone was 21.6 ng/dL. My doctor was quite surprised given that I had a family history of hypogonadism, but she assured me that by me having a healthy diet, good sleep, a purpose (career), and exercising daily. I was on a path to only go up from there. So if I could recommend anything is to find your target macros (protein, carbohydrates, and fat), put your phone down an hour before bed, and workout 45 mins a day. Those fundamental things will go a long way for you. I’m not a medical professional or anything but just relating what I do even if my test levels aren’t as “optimal” as others.

Thanks!

You should interview Dr. Anthony Jay

I cant change what happened to me when mom was pregnant with me or what happened in puberty. Is avoiding plastics literally the only thing i can do to mitigate the effects of these chemicals? Its exstreamly frustrating to listen to this whole thing and not learn any new things i can do to improve myself right now I dont trust tap water and cant afford a osmosis machine or still so i have to drink water from plastic bottles. I want something i can do to actively remove these chemicals from my body.

Massive cortisol levels due to stress and depression, poor nutrition due to ground soil depletion, bodily inflammation due to seed oils being in everything, and mostly sedentary lifestyles. And for like 30-40% of young men, not getting laid.

This could be the biggest problem in the world, maybe even in human history.

Good chat. Thank you for sharing. Biology, biochemistry, social imprinting. To go with testosterone levels. Also estrogen levels. Though the male side does seem to be collapsing in a way. Also the one people are not really talking about is. Some fish change sexes due to factors. Some may map across species, but clearly, differences also. Also one thing no one seems to be talking about is. Repairs to the Y chromosome. I'm not sure you can make a plastic free zone on the planet at this point. Even artic ice has micro plastics in it. Forever chemicals need to be addressed better. Also things like teaching people organic supplemental crop growth. I.E. small organic garden. Glad she talked about distilling water. Birth gap. Social media and the changes in matting strategies. Economics is a main contributing factor. But social trends and cultural ideals contribute also. S. Korea, japan, Italy, China, ect.. All seeing similar trends. Passport bros and sis's. 4B, and 10 rule, MGTOW, ect.. Dusties, hoes, leftovers, left behind, ect.. The % who want kids and a partner vs the ones who don't. Intersexual sabotaging strategies and stealth sabotaging rivals. Social engineering, chemical imprinting. Prime birthing range and social imprinting to delay. When it's harder to have kids. Solo/individual ego/vanity/logic traps. Why do people want a dystopian cyberpunk. When they are living it now in ways. XD Not to get into what genetics are actually slipping through.

I had never thought of the option to have a child, as a basic human right, but it really is.

1:14:56 I’m 40 and I can just and so remember the milk man bringing milk, pop (fizzy drink), eggs, flavoured milk, potatoes, onions etc. no plastic in sight. Bags were paper, bottles were glass. Glass All collected up for reuse.

Dr. Swan could really use a basic education in chemistry and material science. She talks about plastics as a single material, which makes about as much sense as treating all metals the same. For example, the discussion about food packaging is almost completely irrelevant, because all solid food packaging is now made from polyethylene (PE), polypropylene (PP), or polyester (PETE). These three plastics are among the safest, most biologically inert materials known. They contain no phthalates, no BPA, nor any other endocrine disrupting chemicals. Furthermore, containers made from one of these plastics, or even heating food in them, does not cause the plastic to somehow "get into" the food. There's no evidence of this, and there isn't even a plausible mechanism by which it could happen. Microplastics are a problem, but they are generated almost entirely by environmental degradation of waste plastics. Phthalates are commonly used in only one type of plastic: PVC, which hasn't been used in food packaging in decades. Phthalate-softened PVC is found in many non-food applications, for example yoga mats, and any other soft plastic item labeled as "vinyl". That's where phthalates come from, not from food packaging. BPA is very rare in modern food packaging. It's used only in polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins. In the old days polycarbonate was used for water bottles, and BPA based resins were used in tin cans, but manufacturers have long since moved on to safer materials. The third most common plastic behind PE and PP is polyester (PETE) which is ubiquitous in clothing and water bottles. PETE contains no known endocrine disrupters, and there is no evidence that PETE migrates into food or water from plastic containers. HOWEVER, and this is important, all of these plastics rapidly degrade in the waste streams into smaller and smaller particles, quickly turning into what we're now calling microplastics. This may indeed be a significant problem, but we simply don't have the date and research yet to say for sure. In short, Dr. Swan is a good authority in her area of expertise, but when it comes to the specifics of plastic materials and their health effects, she apparently has no idea what she's talking about.

You build testosterone by hard work ... not on the couch playing games and watching tv.

My older home has copper water pipes. Newer homes have all plastic water piping. Forever leaching these compounds into our water?

Thanks for this great Stream 🇬🇧🤜🤛🇩🇪

You'll make a great dad @ChrisWillx. Thanks for this content. Stay classy!

Everything online is the extreme version. For the 99% of us in the middle, life is just normal. Young fellas..... have fun, be nice, look after yourself and work hard. It really is that easy to be happy.

Adam McDonald dedicated an episode to this. He raised his Ts with cutting out a lot of plastic, including gum.

What will get you first the plastics, the food , the air , the lifestyle or the chronic stress of trying to get all these things perfect

What is the best way to measure the AGD correctly, when you're doing it on your own? I'm asking for a friend.

Are the normies waking up yet? Too late, but its good to see the sheep finally start noticing the wolves and lava coming their way.

Ever considered that people just don’t want to have kids because of themselves or because of overpopulation concerns? What about uncertainty and concerns for kids future in a dystopian world

So many researchers are dry. She is the kind of person who would be as fun to listen to as she would to have a beer with.

Berkey water filter comes with a plastic spigot but they offer a stainless steel spigot that you can change out.

I have two Anchor ovenware dishes with glass lids.

Why do people keep referring to the birth rate as the fertility rate? There are many reasons why people are choosing not to have children, it’s not all down to people being less fertile.

*I scored super high on free testosterone a month ago. I wasn't really expecting it. Meat and fruit was all I was eating.*

Hey what about the microwave cover that goes over the food... I've switched everything to glass and it just occurred to me that I'm covering the food still with plastic, it's not touching but would it release phthalates into the air

Mine aren’t - but yes I’ve noticed it. As I drive around and look are other males driving

H.G. Wells' "The Food of the Gods", was a documentary...

Both men and women do not have decent access to hormone testing. Ideally we would all have it tested every few years to get an indication of our baseline levels as the ‘normal’ ranges provided by the nhs are wide and we’re all very different.

Relationships kind of hold back personal development for some types of people. Culture, life style and clearly chemicals have changed us. But maybe this sedation is an opportunity to develop more meaningful connections and build machines/protocols/lessons that facilitate that for future generations. IMHO people have been waay too horny. Makes sense for the wild but we don't live there. And if we're not going to be aggressive on managing relationship predators and sexual predators then mass sedation and hormonal manipulation is the way to go whether deliberate or incidental. I remember confiding the *gasp* feelings I was going through in life to a "girlfriend" and she made her way to blow me as a response.

Chris, not sure if you gonna see this, but once I saw a short of yours saying that you got your levels up by eating liver, taking ethilic ( ? ) omega 3 among other things. I haven't watched this video fully yeat, but if you could elaborate further on your diet, like howmuch liver and how many times per week are eating and how much fish oil, it would be great. Thanks bro.

I’ve been on that there TRT for 8 years 🙌🏽💪🏽😎

Interesting content, so many KZfaq adds though. KZfaq adds are a kind of plastic…

It's not obvious that men not looking for relationships is caused by lower sex drive. Could be, but also could be driven by many men simply giving up on what feels like a hopeless endeavour.

So, basically we are willing to put up with lower fertility rates and higher hormonal disorder rates for convinient packaging. Single-use plastic is a scurge and we need to get rid of it as much as possible. And that is not only for our own sake but also for the sake of the environment. Thank you Shanna for raising awareness about this issue.

I think it’s actually a much simpler answer. Testosterone is created in the gonads, but production is stimulated by muscle, especially the large muscles. Squatting increases testosterone production quite a lot. Men don’t move as much as they used to. Much less men do manual labor. Use it or lose it.

Low reproductivity, high industrialization. Social engi-nerd-ing and affluence. The correlation with phthalates is fucking mind blowing.

Humans are endangered by being so many, not too few.

This is nature regulating itself and it is well

I am curious if the low T is connected with population stress. Has anyone compared the T level of city dwellers vs. rural populations. I wonder if low T is not natures way of regulating population. For some time many ppl have been concerned about population levels getting too high around the globe. Coincidentally the low T is occurring at the same time that ppl are beginning to think “enough already with the babies”. Could nature have a homeostatic signals related to population growth to lowering T?

Not sure Israel is a good example of a high fertility rate exception because if you look at it geographically as a Middle Eastern country, it is actually below average compared to its neighbors. So the various factors of being in the region may be more important to fertility than the fact that it’s a “first world country.”

Societal pressures are VERY powerful. No one enjoys looking like a fool. Society can tell people how to feel (altering hormones) and why having babies would be a disadvantage etc.

I want to get a test test but i dont think i could afford them. Or the means to have it at a healthy level for me. Also in all my years they've never taken one.