Thank you, I think? Not sure what you mean.

@@mufflertech Hes complimenting your style, a lot of youtubers scream at you in obnoxious voices. I agree with him it's a huge breath of fresh air.

@@bertschmert got it. I appreciate it. It seems being obnoxious and yelling in videos is what gets the big view counts. I also don’t care for this style.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for the compliment! We don’t publish pricing as that’s a moving target, especially lately. The total time of install is roughly 8 hours for an experienced person. It could be done faster if you’re less meticulous.

JD I appreciate that you noticed the attention we spend on line up. It is what separates a good install from a great one.

You’re gonna love it. I got mine in June and honestly it’s way better than I ever imagined!

We haven’t done a Paragon yet but they look like they have a high quality product. I appreciate the compliment and thanks for watching.

Thank you! I would do your diligence by asking other Corvette owners in your area and by checking online reviews.

I got a 2023 coming... Z51lt2... I'm just going to drive it... And not make any changes.. 🙆

@@skippynj1979 hahah same, my order was accepted last week, I’m waiting for the build date.

You really should let your husband make his own comments

Same concept but the stock still has all the exhaust flow through the big stock muffler. The valves open a free flowing path through it. The Fabspeed opens the valve as a bypass.

California only had one year of the stricter no more “fix-it ticket” sound violation. The law was repealed due to the fact that sound is a subjective matter and law enforcement cannot determine what’s too loud. Even using DB meters that some departments had does not work as they will pick up ambient sound from the environment. As far as emissions, we do everything from the “cat-back” which is completely legal.

Hi Hank. Thanks for the thoughtful inquiry. Design and R&D certainly play a part in the overall cost. Some of the cost is also attributed to the more complex build vs a standard exhaust setup to a front engine car. Most of it has to do with the number of units that are going to be sold. The C7 and earlier cars had a much larger audience for aftermarket systems and because of this the cost per unit is way down.

Because they can, it’s my vote

Not much

Putting the car in Track mode opens the NPP’s. Even if you keep them open all the time the exhaust still goes through the muffler.

@@mufflertech I understand that. I would like the sound in the other modes. I spend very little time in anything but weather in Washington state in the winter. It would be cool to have a physical switch to open the valves in any setting.

@@thereissomecoolstuff I believe you have the ability to change certain aspects of the car for each setting. If you go into engine sound and put it to “Track” on all of the modes it should leave the valves open all the time.

@@mufflertech I found a remote valve controller. I'm going to give it a try. The car sounds perfect for me with the valves open. This controller lets you do that for $100 instead of $3000. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fa5gg7eWysW4pGQ.html

Costs on this stuff is a moving target, this is why I didn’t discuss it in the video. Labor rates vary in different regions as well. As of right now it’s roughly $6K.

@@mufflertech thanks for the heads up. My order is in and I should be getting my 23 Stingray somewhat soon? I liked the Fabspeed sound so much from another youtube video that I looked up a local Fabspeed dealer. Fortunately there happens to be one near by. Thanks for the reply.

Do you do production systems for C8’s? If you do and they’re of high quality we should talk. We’re always looking for good alternatives that are budget friendly.

Kevin thanks for your input! I’m afraid I have to challenge your position here. The word “Corvette” has nothing to do with price rather its the low production numbers and the complexity of the needed product to fit a mid engined sports car. Products for front engined Corvette’s were dramatically cheaper as they weren’t nearly as complicated to design which made them more accessible which allowed higher production which lowered the cost even more. Chevy has made a real mid engined contender in the sports car market, this unfortunately creates exhaust systems and other components that have a higher price tag. Thanks for watching!

Hi Adam, thanks for the comment and watching the video. Please call the shop for current pricing 916-421-0399

LOL! It isn't that bad, you should see an R8. Thanks for watching!

Great question. I don’t typically post pricing online as this stays up forever. The expense of doing business can change. This is why I publish the time it takes. 5-10 hours depending on the shop and their experience and attention to detail. Take this and apply to the hourly rates in your area.

@@mufflertech you made it look so fast and easy. Hard to believe that was 5-10hrs. Looked like 3hrs max lol. But I think that's what professionals do, we make our jobs look easy.

Decibel’s are not measured like a normal progression of volume. In other words if you said something is at 90% volume and you increased it to 100% that would only be 10% louder. DB’s don’t work like that. Here’s a paragraph I found on google that explains: Decibels are measured logarithmically. This is a way of counting or measuring something that increases rapidly, or exponentially. For example, every increase of 10 dB on the decibel scale is equal to a 10-fold increase in sound pressure level (SPL).Dec 27, 2021

12db increase is nuts... So loud!

I think Maximum1a did the absolute Minimum, on his homework on decibels.

We just finished doing a Borla Atak on a C8 today. Video is coming soon.

@@mufflertech link?

@@unspecifiedd gotduals,com

Every C8 we have done has required the valve reconfiguring regardless of the exhaust system.

@@mufflertech how is it looks like? Can you make some explain? What tools are required ( soft? ) to make it? Any advice?🤔

@@witek1496 we take it to our local dealer to do the reconfigure

Yes, all “cat backs” are legal for emissions

Believe it or not, we’ve done a custom system with a Borla muffler on a Prius. I don’t think it would get much traction as a video here though 😉

No exhaust system voids the warranty. The Magnuson Moss Warranty-Federal Trade Commission Improvements Act allows for modifications of a product without the cancellation of the warranty.

Did you watch the video? It explains exactly why it costs more, and it’s not because the car is more expensive.

@@mufflertech I did.. I think the explanation is crap

@@CypHill lol! You should be more honest.

It was a great explanation…then he literally showed all the work he had to do as opposed to “traditional” exposed exhaust piped cars. In other words the video did most of the talking and it is assumed you know how the older systems compare. So unless you need engineer level explanations or hand held explanations 😂, it was an informative video. Nice Job @mufflertech

They all do until the motors are relearned. Manufacturers of exhaust systems will say sometimes you don’t need to relearn but we’ve never had an install that didn’t need it.

I didn’t post it because of the price volatility. Most systems are between $5-6K installed

Decimal gain works progressively. The higher the DB the more each DB adds to the volume. This is a big gain.

You’re correct. I don’t like mentioning prices in you tube content. These videos are here forever and pricing can change. The best thing to do is contact us for current pricing, I should have mentioned this.

@@mufflertech I get it I agree with you that thing sounds bad ass though I haven’t ordered my car yet but I’m gonna consider that exhaust when I get it

It was quite a bit less then $10K.

@@mufflertech by full exhaust I mean headers, cats and cat back. It's a nice system though.

Good eye. We’ve replaced it.

It doesn’t always. We’ve had the best luck by not unplugging them from the car and installing them on the new exhaust once it’s in the car. The reason you can get a fault is the cars ECU knows where the motor position is and if it changes it thinks there’s something wrong with them.

We’ve been in our space for almost 25 year’s. We’ve grown out of it for sure but we’re good at working with what we have.

I suppose I meant our customer base. I would guess people that aren’t interested in an exhaust upgrade probably wouldn’t search out a video like this.

I suppose that depends on your definition of “normal”. The Corvette has always been significantly more expensive then any of the normal cars in Chevrolet’s line up. If the argument is they have increased exponentially, haven’t vehicles like the Tahoe done the same?

I was resistant to posting expected install times for this very reason. This is what most exhaust manufacturers say it takes. For us it’s not a race. We take our time to make sure everything goes back exactly as it came apart. Just the tip alignment alone can take an hour. If you’re an accomplished tech and can do it that much faster good for you.

If you’ve ever tried to produce an aftermarket part in multiples you’d realize how much it actually costs. You have to cost average out what you actually sell per unit produced along with the development expense. There’s no justification, just the intention to make a profit. You’re right that it isn’t hard to remove the bumper, but to do it right takes time, and time is money. Thanks for watching!

@@mufflertech there are less bends and less material, I understand some mid-engine exhaust because they have a crazy number of bends, a ridiculous number of pie cuts, but the C8 is not that way.

@@DavidVKZfaq it’s not about the number of bends. Even mass production of a simple straight pipe cat delete with two flanges has its own production costs. I appreciate your point of view but I don’t believe you have understanding of the expense associated with the production of parts like this.

@@DavidVKZfaq You should go into the business and out-compete these companies, since you apparently have the knowledge that lets you cut costs. You'll make a pretty penny.

@@stevesamuel263 paragon is already starting to do that. They have an entire titanium exhaust for the same price as a borla or Corsa stainless. Must be magic 🤣

You are correct about the turbos in most cases, you don’t want pulse disruption on a dual TT set up. You are mistaken with an NA application. There’s lots of data and dyno results that prove an X-pipes advantage.

@@mufflertech the advantage of an X pipe is at most 8-10 hp. That’s all. And the only way to get that is by engineering the exhaust system. Simply sticking an x pipe any where randomly in the exhaust system won’t do shit. The distance from the engine the length of pipe the size of pipe all come into play to get any exhaust scavenging benefits. There’s just a KZfaq trend of people making X pipe exhausts and people see them on expensive cars like lambos and people just want that look. They haven’t a clue whether it works or not. The worst is seeing these have two turbos 12” away from each other and then stick and X pipe right in the two down pipes. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️. And then argue that it helps. It’s ridiculous

@@mikeeagle2653 I’ve personally seen gains on a dyno from random X-pipe placement. Respectfully, I do this every day and have a lot of experience with it. You’re correct on turbo’s, but your wrong about NA applications.

@@mufflertech seeing a 5 hp gain is simply a waste of time and money. Equal length headers with a real merge collector provide way mor3 HP the and X pipe could ever. And I’ve been in the industry for the last 35 yrs. so if you have “experience “. Then you wouldn’t be going back and forth disagreeing with what I wrote. I also guarantee that the test that you saw a difference on there were other factors that were changed also. The fact that you said “you’ve stuck them in randomly” show you don’t know how they work. The the way they are supposedly work create any scavenging is to be at just the right distance from the engine to perfectly be timed with crossing over to scavenge the next cylinders exhaust pulse So randomly doesn’t work. Car manufacturers spend millions engineering exhaust systems. That’s how the X pipe even came about.

@@mikeeagle2653 I’m not arguing that a researched and developed exhaust system won’t benefit more from a more specific placement of an X-pipe. I also agree that equal length headers are more beneficial than anything down the line of the rest of the exhaust. My response to your criticism is to address your claim of “zero gain” from an X-pipe. It’s an incorrect statement, no matter how much other peripheral knowledge you point out.

You’re totally incorrect. We can do whatever we want after the cat(s).