▐ ᴇʟᴍᴏᴅᴏ7▐ idk why Apple bought them. Maybe it's because of its music services?

Nah, just because like iphones, ipads, imacs... Manufacturing is cheap, components are cheap, but can be sold at a high price because most people are going to buy them anyway.

B uy O ther S ound E quipment

▐ ᴇʟᴍᴏᴅᴏ7▐ that's why their shit shouldn't be expensive. Apple pisses me off with that bullshit.

Apple bought Beats for Jimmy Iovine and his mega contacts with the music industry. The rest was just incidental. Also the quality of their stuff has been increasing ever since they left Monster, the masters of overpriced, underperforming shite.

wish I had as well, not very well put together and really only backs up why people dont like them some good contradiction going on in there

IBISMK2 . Synopsis Bose EQ Bose stuff looks good Tsunami looming

There are videos on youtube ?

Same. The dudes weird hair was creeping me out.

Looking glass. IMO you should allow others to speak for themselves!

@Yuto Nohdomi unpacking now

Sorry my bad. Like ur video bout audiophiles

@Dash Thiago Get a room.

The beats go on.... and the beats go on.

Honestly I don't know why it should be a nemesis, just don't buy them. Unlike the GPU market, audio equipement can be bought for cheap and if you want vintage stuff (especially amps) it's even cheaper. You should know this

who cares hes still racking up millions so were the ones whos idiots not him im sure hes totally losing sleep knowing hes selling shitty headphones hahahahahahahaha

Sonos sound bars too

Jeremy Clarkson as time goes by more and more devices (mainly laptops) are being shipped with Beats Audio as the built in audio processor. You can turn it off, but then they take your low-end as hostage and compress the music anyway. So to avoid the Beats influence I need to carry around my own DA interface. Of course I'll avoid this in future. As for headphones, my only regret is that inexperienced listeners will not know how far removed their music is from source. And all their non-hiphop music will sound subpar and they won't know why.

It's like that at Best Buy. They have their own separate row of headphones so you can't go back and forth between their headphones and competitors. If consumers had such a choice, it would negate all the advertisement costs the manufacturers incurred.

Thank you for sharing that experience. I will never forget your story and it really made me look at Bose completely different. 🤔

They disallowed product comparisons! That’s quite a nail in their coffin.

At a local Fry's Electronics, Bose has always had its separate demonstration area. It is highly controlled. You can only sit or stand in a designated place, and you can only play music they have pre-selected. Comparing Bose to others is intentionally impossible.

I watched this on a 3-2-1. Still sounds ok. He's right. "Good enough"

Yeah but Beats look good with the track suit

I have the beats studio since 2012 and the beats pill xxl since 2013. Cant say anything bad about them. They were worth every penny.

I got my beats a few years ago. Have nothing bad to say tbh.

I know what you mean. I got a pair and the of beats studio 3’s and they stopped working on the first day.

Biggest complaint about Beats is the price for the quality. They’re poorly constructed and completely squash the high end. They are a fantastic fashion accessory though.

Many of these self professed "audiophiles" listen with their eyes more than their ears. It's all inference. Just like solid body electric guitar "tonewood".

buzzcrushtrendkill Humans being humans will be swayed by their other senses (e.g. sight) and not just hearing. That’s just a fact

More nonsense. Bose always spent more on advertising than product innovations. They produce speakers for decades practically unchanged and overcharge for the privilege. If you look at the consistent critique against Bose, you see it is always the price vs performance ratio.

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Yours is a minority (dare I say elitist?) viewpoint. Bose has the largest R&D budget of any audio-only company (by a wide margin).The "superb performance" advantage for audiophile products just isn't relevant to a majority of loudspeaker owners. As far as "unchanged" goes, Bose constantly streamlines their product's design and manufacturing processes. The Bose 901 and 501 each must have had a dozen iterations. Sure, they all look the same, but from a manufacturer's viewpoint, each had improvements that made them a more desirable product. Not surprisingly, you probably weren't paying close attention. Also, their headphone division is famously innovative and successful.

love it to read long reviews about companies for sound products that lack the most importnat part: sound quality...

At their price you can do better. Any comparable JBL/Infinity system will have more accurate sound and be quite a bit cheaper.

If they showed all the releveant specs nobody would buy the products.

Their specs would be an embarrassment. And the one comeback they could have - "listen to us side-by-side for proof" they can't do because they don't allow that either...for obvious reasons. ;) Best to just not print the numbers and then go spontaneously deaf if anyone calls you on it. It's worked for them for decades.

Their objective is a different one. The objective is providing the best possible user experience with the least amount of effort invested on the hardware side. That's not for me. It is probably as well the reason why they never became relevant in Germany. You see huge Bose stores in Asia, though, in prime locations where the rents are exorbitant.

In the audio segment there are plenty reputable companies. It is more that people don't know how to interpret specs. Why for example the audio disaster Beats sold so well? A buying decision made based on hero marketing, and on a quick listen that boomy bass might sound impressive. Junk for a lot of money. You can get better for half the price, i.e. from Audio Technica and Sennheiser.

i like the quiet comfort lineup, and the soundlink lineup. but the bigger speakers usually is lackluster

JBL👍🏼

Love my SoundTouch 30, what an amazing sound for a Bluetooth speaker

Have you listened to Klipsch the one BT speaker

I still have the original Soundlink, with the USB receiver and remote and it still blows away any other bluetooth speaker I've owned, even the Soundlink III. I just recently discovered that using the remote you can actually get it into bluetooth pairing mode (had no idea it was bluetooth) and use it with anything other than the USB receiver. its not just quality of sound, its also overall loudness without distortion. Used it at many a party and its still going strong.

That's because the 501's were crap and I'm a bose fan. Bose has put out some garbage over time.

yeah Bose doesn't make good speakers, but they do make good EQ's I'm sure the speakers in my QC15's don't sound that good, but by forcing you to use their hardware EQ, you wouldn't know it and they did a good job at EQing it imo

Just for your information, the EQ processor for the 901 is a crossover network unique to that speaker. And it's sophisticated enough so that you can control what comes out of the box. Every speaker you can name, outside of a single driver full range system, has a crossover designed to get a good (flat, It is hoped and claimed) response from those three separate speakers (If it's a three-way system) running in that cabinet. Take any set of speakers; I don't care how expensive and rip out the crossover from inside the speaker cabinets and see how they sound.

So true Donald, just look at the era late 60's and onward a lot of speakers sounded considerably worse than the 901's of course in todays market where DSP is used widely improvements can be made across the board. How many speakers of the 901 era actually went below 45 htz? Now even very high end setups are using subs. 901's still have the large sound stage so not just the person in the sweet spot gets the full sound.

@@sPi711 And just for your information Crossover networks and EQ are completely 2 different things. There is no crossover function going on in the 901. Each driver is running "full-range". EQ boosts or lowers frequency bands in the signal chain to get a "flat" or desired response. Crossover networks divide frequencies between drivers to send only the frequencies that each driver will reproduce. Crossovers are necessary in multi-way systems due to the fact that most higher frequency drivers can't handle the power that the lower frequency drivers can. So removing the crossover network can damage the more delicate drivers. So yes, if you remove the EQ from the 901 or the EQ from a multi way speaker, the 901 would be exposed for what it really is. A heap of really expensive Chinese paper cone drivers and plastic. I've rebuilt many of these things, I know what's inside the magic box. I've built many 2, 3 and 4 way speakers that needed zero EQ to sound fantastic.

Sony is the best hi-fi brand in the world

WarthDader74 Only if you're 12

+Alan Frayser Sir, I am in my 70's and worked for decades with selling audio equipment. During all those years I sold a lot of different brands, and experienced which ones had the best quality. Sony was definitely the brand that had fewest repairs, and the inner components was of very high quality. Sound quality was also excellent. All the negative things you hear about Sony nowadays, is not true at all and are spread by competitors.

Yeah so what's good? I have 200 to spend

Mordane Sennheiser headphones man✊🏽

this sums up the video.

well, last time I was on concert where Bose was used with annoying bright logos on both sides of the scene, the sound sure attempted to 'enhance' the heck out of my hearing, so much that I had to literally plug my ears with fingers. never had it that terrible before. but it was likely also local sound director's fault.

Well said... period!

Perfect summary!

Finally.... someone nail it

Way back when I purchased my Bose 901’s comparing them to the JBL L100’s, I loved both of them but bought the 901’s. The kicker was both speakers were being driven by a Bose amplifier putting out around 275 watts RMS which I didn’t buy then and is no longer available. Seeing that the 901’s can handle 450 watts RMS compared to 200 watts for the JBL’s, in today’s market it will cost a fortune for an amplifier to listen to the 901’s as I did. I called Bose for a solution to my dilemma and their suggestion was to buy a new amplifier Bose now makes. When I checked out it’s specs, for around $700 you get 80 watts RMS maximum per channel. At this point I will either leave my 901’s in my cedar chest or sell them least I run across a 700 watt 2 channel power amp some non audiophile have to Goodwill for a new surround sound receiver.

correction: donated to Goodwill

I am not anti-Bose as I still like their Wave radios and their $150 sound link which I compared to more expensive blue tooth speakers. Bose sounded the best in this category. Wait for a sale if you can. Micro-center had the Sound Link for $125 about 3 weeks ago.

Spot on. And THAT is why we dislike Bose. Not that we want someone to hate.

Du behøver ikke 450watt til Bose 901. .. de 450 watt er maximum power de kan håndtere. . En god solid 2gang 80watt class AB forstærker er mere en rigtigt. . Og de JBL L100 vil til hver og en tid spise de Bose 901 til morgenmad

Exactly. Every word bang on.

And a lot fits on Apple which is why the pc enthusiast community hates them so much. Though Apple is way better at this than Bose ever was.

KEF♡

Bose taking advantage of people’s ignorance? Sounds like Microsoft

Yup. They sound "impressive" at first during a demo. But, like that Beats junk, it really gets tiresome after a short while. Neutral, accurate audio is so much easier to listen to. They're just too expensive, too manipulative, and only work "well" in a very limited environment. There's always a better option, usually for a better price and without the shady marketing. If you're on an airplane, and want decent audio with noise cancellation, the headphones are... OK... but there is still better stuff out there, that won't irritate your ears after 15 minutes, and won't cost you >$200.

I have a Bose System in my car. It's shit. I have Yamaha HS8 studio monitors for my home studio. It's great.

You're definitely right about hobbyists wanting to be more in tune and in control of what they love. Car guys will buy tunable cars with manual transmissions. The average person will buy a 4-cylinder FWD compact car because they don't care. PC guys will build their own PCs with glass side panels, RGB, and the best specs they can get for the money. The average person will buy an OEM laptop because they don't care. It applies to any hobby. Average people will keep buying Bose because it sounds good to them, and they don't care enough for better audio. Audiophiles, however, will not.

Nonsense, Bose is utter garbage.

And they cost more than they should

Fred Johnson Who cares? They are hifi speakers. You’re not mixing records on them. I have a pair of Neumaan kh120a’s and they are razor flat and honestly not something that’s great for casual listening.

@@Skrenja Not HiFi.

Ya. BOSE is tring alter where and when you hear sound, whicj is not worth what they think its worth.

I skipped through this thing every 3-4 minutes, waiting for the information to start.. go to the end and was not surprised, your comment has more substance than this waste of bandwidth.

Richard D. JBL is the best. Have never used anything but them

I agree, I use JBL 4311s from the 1980s in my home.

Richard D. What would you suggest for a Beginner in the audio engineering world?

I've had a pair of JBL L-100s since 1973 and they're still wonderful--and in perfect operating condition.

I’ve never been in studio where Bose equipment is used either. I find their sound too top & bottom for my ears which wouldn’t suit a studio anyway. Just bought some Adam speakers to mix on , bit pricy but nice.

Me too

@Rusty Andrews point blank period they sound good. Never found a pair of consumer headphones that are better. Everyone is obsessed with bass and bose doesn't make bass heavy headphones. They're more for vocals and detail

@@emanuellgustea122 So you never tried out more than Bose stuff? :)

@@biboKralle i have. I've tried sony, skullcandy, sennehiser, jbl. Stuff like that

@@emanuellgustea122 oof. Skullcandy is junk. Sennheiser has a huge product lineup of varying use cases, and can be fantastic or shit depending on your use case. You should try the AudioTechnica ATH-M50x cans with a Fiio DAC/amp (I use a Fiio i1, but they are discontinued). I’ve compared them side by side with Bose headphones and they’re magnitudes better for the same price.

The real draw is the comfort of their headphones, the noice cancelling and lastly sound.

@@kaarthuisplus This! I will never understand why people behave as if Bose are like Skullkandy or Beats. They are not. They know their shit. Its just that audiophiles are not their target market. Bose QC headphones have some of the best comfort, NC and call quality I have ever seen in wireless headphones. Not to mention the sound is not that bad as people are saying. They actually sound good in most cases. Good sound is incredibly subjective anyway.

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush Exactly, I have had my bose QC 35 2s for a couple of years now and they are very comfortable (have worn them for 13h straight on a flight), have very good noise cancellation that helps me concentrate and are overall a good headphone for day to day use and are perfectly fine for the average user. You can also have best of both worlds if you want to, audiophile gear and some headphones for work or flights for example.

I have bose and samsung

100% agreed, if you're happy with the sound, that's all that matters. I also have a Soundlink Mini 1, and the original Acoustimass 5's hooked up to a Cambridge amp, plus Acoustic Energy speakers and REL subwoofer. I love my Bose gear for the sound they make, and have no qualms with the marketing that hooked me in. The sky is the limit when it comes to audiophile snobbery... eg, "if your system doesn't come close to my $100K B&W Nautilus system, don't bother talking to me".

I absolutely love the Soundlink Mini 2. If they are positioned well in the room and I know where the people listening to them will be, the sound this little thing produces is huge. But of course they're not meant for critical listening. It's convenient to set up, to move around the room and to give the "impression" of a big sound. And I don't actually care if the sound really is that big or it just pretends to be. And I see how this small box does some trickery. But if the trickery works, why would I care? ^^ 99 % of the time I listen to music it's through headphones. And I also have the QC 35 II and they're the headphones that get the most use. Do they sound good? Yes. Do they sound amazing? No. But they're sounding "good enough" while being extremely convenient, reliable, having very good ANC and most important plus for them is that they are simply the most comfortable headphones I ever had sitting on my head. But do I use them for working on my music or critical listening? Of course not. You even see it in the name of the headphones: they make the world quiet while being extremely comfortable, and that's what they're loved for.

What you failed to realize it’s how much you pay vs what others equipment you could’ve bought with better quality and would last as long as boss.

@@fabiogonzalez4413 in general this is a very complicated topic. For example when the QC35 was released, it was so innovative that there simply was no competition for ANC headphones. When the Soundlink Mini came out it was simply an amazing deal for pairing convenience with (perceived) sound quality. And now I'm looking at a BOSE system for amplification for busking because they just created the best package of convenience, portability and sound quality. But all of those products are in no way meant to be a solution for audiophiles. Do your research, put your expectations in the right spot and after that make the right purchase decision.

I also have used both and still prefer Sennheiser regardless. Furthermore my Bose started to fall apart after 6 months whereas the foam on my Sennheisers lasted over 3 years.

I stopped using QC25 regularly as I just knew they would break easily... Just not lasting material. You could say I'm just "rationing" usage.

I'm not an audiophile, and only a few minutes in, but he seems to dislike Bose because they market their products as high end as more professional and higher quality companies. Beats knows what it is. It's for middle schoolers who want bass, bass, and more bass.

Let us use a food analogy. Beats is Burger King and BOSE is taco Bell. Audiophiles are people who would eat at decent restaurants that use high quality ingredients. Get it?

Beats by Dre is McDonalds food being sold at Applebee's prices. Bose is Applebee's food being sold at steak house prices. There's hate enough for both.

youAbajajTube That's fucking bullshit, most audiophiles are hiveminded idiots like yourself. Morons like you will bitch about mainstream brands while coveting thousand dollar cables.

Game: Find the Bose peddler in this tread.

I believe that the demo music Bose used were recorded in an anechoic studio so that when reproduced by Bose "direct/reflected" speakers it sounded "better" than the same recording on a quality conventional system.

I agree... I did a frequency response test and the Bose failed badly...

Give me an earphone recommendation

I just wanted to write in to your post, not to argue, not to spark anything but rather only to offer my own viewpoint. This is regarding the whole "we should vilify companies that overcharge" statement, and how this relates to brands such as Apple. I was a diehard Microsoft guy stretching back to the early 1990's when I got my first 386DX-25(yes! it was a DX, not an SX as most would think), and pre-installed, illegitimate copy of DOS 5.0 and heavy manual. And when I worked my first real job as a bench tech fixing PC's, I viewed Macs with a snort, scowl and roll of the eyes. Overpriced, useless products that can't even play the latest PC games(why would anyone ever buy one?). Sure I learned to fix and repair them...the old days of LC475's and 575's, but no amount of reasons of how supposedly graphics professionals, desktop publishing people use them, would ever sway me(I figured those assuredly crap-paying, easy jobs sucked anyways). And you can't *even overclock* a Mac, like you could with PCs! Naturally my first smartphone was an Android. Endless customization, do everything that an iPhone can't(or won't), and dove deep into the world of XDA developers, with their ROM developers/salesmen hawking their own little promises of "6 hours SOT! Best battery life" on 2010 era phones. It's funny though, how, when the iPhone 6 debuted, how I decided to give the iPhone a shot as *finally* Apple came out with the form factor that I've been accustomed to, from Android. And boy was that transition rough. But little by little, the iPhone swayed me. No more constantly checking GSAM and WLD and looking in consternation on the hundreds of wakelocks plaguing Android, no more browsing through many thousands of XDA forum threads on whether or not X Rom maker finally gotten around to fixing this one little issue he overlooked, no more constantly flashing another ROM to fix the issues the previous ROM had. As I got older, more and more did I not want to be constantly tinkering with my devices(god knows I've had enough once my work day is done). Then the rest of Apple's ecosystem started to creep in...iPad, then Macbook Pro, and with that, learning OSX. Which came as as an equal shock to me, that I started to actually enjoy using it, and stared at my Windows 10 PC in consternation when one day, it went ahead and stole focus...minimizing the game I was deep in play on, with a big Update screen, *even when I EXPLICITLY SET IT NOT TO DO THAT*. In closing. My younger self from 20 years ago would have spat, and hurled all kinds of four-letter invectives, declaring me a traitor to the tech world, and how I'm not to even look in his direction for the sins I've committed. Well my dear past self. I still own a PC for Windows gaming, and that'll never change, I promise you.

Can you recommend me some?

Then what is the benefit of intelligence and willingness? If people are so easily fooled by sub-optimal solution then it is their fault they're not good enough to recognize it or have done the prior research. Such is the reason the rich are rich. They're smarter in some way. It is not their duty to foot the bill that the stupidity of the masses incurs.

Any recommendations on better over the ear headphones that aren't Bose or Beats but sound phenomenal?

BeatleBabe Audio-Technica ATH-M50

I'll take Polk and JBL over Bose crapola. I had a set of Polk 5s way back when. They sounded very good (esp with some real power). Never heard a Bose system that was any good.

jargon mix up. nowadays the term mostly refers to digital sound processing.

Tim Simpson what's better than Bose SoundLink 3 ? I think Sony is the best mainstream

I agree - the MDR-1000X cans are awesome. I'm editing vlog sound with a sony 7.2 set. gaming with the PlayStation headphones, and I use sony MDR-HW300 (wireless sender) when operating cameras at gigs (so I don't forget about the cable and yank the camera ever again ;) ) ... 6 sony cameras here too.. mixed with an old canon and a few blackmagic's...

I am one of those untrained customer you mentioned .. My purpose is mostly listening songs n watching movies.. What is alternative to the costly Bose products? Please help

Personally I tend to go for the sony gear - the price is good for what you get, I like the sound space they deliver and the construction is great. The sound system/media head I have is 14 years old and going strong. The only reason I would upgrade it is for improved HDMI version for 4k/3D. Alternatively there's been massive improvement in soundbars. Sound is very much a personal taste thing - some people like more bass, some more mid-tone, and then the space you are going to put it in has a huge impact on how something performs. I know this is a useless answer - but it depends on what works for your tastes. What I will say is don't go budget, or "fancy" - make sure that what you get is solidly built, and it will last you for years. cheap stuff will rip it self to bits and end up costing more in the long run.

Nikhil Gupta Sony is decent, though not perfect. One pair of headphones you might want to check out are the Audiotechnica ATH M50X, I absolutely love them.

Need a LOT of power to run the closed (no venting) series I and II

lol "audiophiles".

I have problems with Bose for many of the same reasons. The same goes for quite a few other audio brands, but the point being that it's still tribalism at the end of the day no matter how justifiable.

I wasn't arguing whether it was justifiable or not. I don't like Bose or Beats because I belong to a more sophisticated listening group, audiophiles. I really don't. Yes, audiophiles do know a thing or two about sound equipment, but it doesn't take away from the idea that an audiophile is part of a group/type of people aka a tribe. It's not a derogatory or condescending thing. Human's "social intelligence" is what set us apart from most other things, especially other great apes, on this planet. Tribalism is very much a part of that.

Heh, even deaf people hate those

Where can you get the " hold my beer" edition? Is it limited?

Win of lose, we hit the bose.

Martin Lindgren haha

Preach it, Mike White!

Bet that’s what’s your wife says 😂

YES....

This is the most unintelligent comment used. It seems as though it is widely used by people with no true desire for complete information/explanation of a subject. Maybe because their pea sized brain cannot comprehend more than one piece of small info at a time, only has the attention span of flea, has way too much room inside the head in which it is encased (in other words, there is a lot of empty space inside that head), or, the host of said pea brain just spends way too much time trying to be a smart ass. What ever the case may be, it is an extremely idiotic response. It wastes time, energy, and space on the page (not to mention the fact that it advertises the commenter's low level IQ). If one watches/listens to a host, and doesn't find what they were expecting from him/her, then, why not just go on to the next source without wasting everyone's time by writing a comment only worthy of a moron.

nealjazz Intelligent people do not need babble. The facts will suffice. 5 minutes is all you need. Unless you are a babbling fool then you go on and on and on and on for no good reason.

Bose fans: People who think that $100 equipment can break the laws physics and sound like $1000 equip - and actually DO PAY $1000.

That was the saying in our tech shop too.

Honestly I've only had good experiences with their p.a. towers playing live. They are also the best when it comes to sound cancelling headphones.

I think the headphones still have a weird midrange hump.

Being a sailor and a bassplayer I can tell you that is true for the home stereo in our messroom, but also for the P.A. speakers of Bose. With Bose speakers the low en becomes very muddy, you cannot tell the difference between the low notes of the guitar or piano and the bass when U use them for a complete band.

You should fix your auto tune

Ahahahaha! All these phrases and acronyms for BOSE are great, I'm dying here!

IDK when this originated, but I remember hearing it in the early 90's.

I remember it from the 70s. The 901 was the main reason why.

Bose is like "boses" in Filipino which means voice, all the meat of the voice is in the Mids, No highs, No lows, must be Bose :)

So basically the opposite of anything labelled as "gaming" when it comes to audio. It'll have painfully crisp highs and stomping lows, but no real mids. Makes me wonder what would happen if Bose made a gaming audio product... It'll either sound amazing or make no sound at all.

Good choice. The Acoustimass was garbage.

They didnt have a sub woofer they had a remote base driver, very different in the frequency response.

Rock Man v I am using Sennheiser headphones (open type) fir work at home, Bose QC 15 (or so) for work while travelling, ans also Phillips and one other well known Brand noise cacellation headphones. I love the Phillips ones, but their problem is that they catch cell phone signals. So by and large I am most satisfied with the Bose ones.

Rock Man Glad you enjoy them but don't listen to Sony's or especially Bowers and Wilkins' alternatives unless you want to suffer from buyers remorse when it comes to sound quality. One thing Bose definitely has over the competition is comfort though. They're light and very comfy.

olgil I tried those and the Bose QC30 (buds) and QC35 (cans) sound better. No remorse here.

With the right AMP set up, they do sound the best still.

I agree. I am not an audiophile and I have loved Bose products but I find this super interesting!

There are times where I run in a venue professional audio which has a divider with another Entertainer on the other side. When they run a Bose system I have to turn mine down because limitations of what those speakers are problem is they can't match spls traditional speakers and I have to turn my volume down and frequencies down because they can't keep up

It's not that Bose sounds bad per se, but you can build a system for the same price that would likely change you mind radically.

i like bose...I love Klipsch.

To sum up every other comment: because you're just an average peasant that doesn't care. Audiophiles are so much better than you

Andrew Ryder ń

If it sounds like crap it IS

Andrew Ryder b&o Krell, Mark Levinson, Wilson are mostly junk unfortunately. Bose Professional & Panaray is of high quality, and simply one of the best. They do have different divisions. Bose consumer, and Bose Professional which includes Panaray and some speakers utilizing the B&O and JBL brand.

@@tkandme3 You have hit on an incovenient truth. Bose domestic consumer goods to me are simply unlistenable BUT..... Bose pro gear does not sound bad at all. Mark Levinson used to be some of the best you could buy but appear to have lost their way. Krell same downward spiral. Wilson is way overpriced for passive loudspeakers and has some issues. B&O is a mixed bag but that has never changed from their early days. At least they embrace active domestic loudspeaker tech. Use DSP in new & innovative ways and remain the only HiFi in the Gugenheim museum of modern art. Their low mass phono cartridge tech was and still is plagerised by many others. Because it is good and it works. So felt I must pull you up on that. Cheers

B&O makes very interesting tech available to many. Their ICEPower class-D amp is absolutely mind-blowing IMHO, and having this kind of amp on consumer laptops and screens is great.

You are absolutely right in that Bose does not r produce exactly as engineered but in order to actually get that reproduction you’d need a $20k system. Not exactly ideal. Everything else is just a simulation of the real thing..

Exactly. I don't like this idea of psycho acoustics. Means Bose can be a force in music industry forcing music to sound as they want it to sound.

Jose Echevarria - Isn't any speaker just "simulating" the real thing?

Smedleydog1 Not when it's using algorithms to achieve predetermined sounds of what Bos thinks the majority likes.

Aurthor Thing I couldn’t agree more. I pretty much exclusively use PJB cabinets. I have a 8x5 enclosure for Bass guitar and the sound quality is amazingly clean faithfully reproducing the bass down to a low B. It’s all about the speaker construction and cabinet porting.

Take a tab of LSD, and then listen to your HiFi music setup. Talk about hearing sounds you never noticed before! 🤯

bose is trash, enjoy your crap sound

COLLECTOR30 Hate Bose cause u can’t love yourself

The Sony ANC headphones will sound better imho

@@benedicvelasco The Sony 1000xm3 sound bassy and muddy. Same for the inear version. I sent them back and kept my QC35ii.

WTF ,the sound quality of Sony are a complete mudfest I'm a guy that cares about sound not an audiophile extent but as the guy in the vid said I know how I want my sound..to sound Now I know that sound is a subjective thing but there things which are objective Such as the CLARITY of the sound and how heavy the bass is Now,SONY lacks clarity and sound muffled AF compared to Bose .. clearly Yes Sony xm3,2 may have heavier pounding bass but unless you're a basshead It just drowns out the rest of the frequencies STOP SAYING SONY HAS BETTER SOUND!!!!!

I absolutely LOVE my Sony headphones for their sound quality. With that said, for going on a plane, my QC's come into play because I still have yet to own a pair of cans that can do noise cancelling as good as my Bose headphones.

@@leroyrs True, I tried my friend's Sony xm3 and I got dizzy in no time. I'm gonna try out the QC35ii and NC 700 in their experience store soon.

Try the new Sony 1000 m3 it was reviewed as a better noise cancelling headphone compared to the bose 32 quiet comfort and is cheaper priced.

Yeah as an autistic man, I got the Sony WH-1000X mkiii to cancel out noise when I'm at home in a household of 6 people because it allows me to isolate myself while still having pretty great sound quality by comparison.

wtf so demark is the country of autistic people? i dint know that sorry for you

No, some of us are adults and can make a decision of our own.

Even if it's a really poor one.

Abid Hassan No Hokusai woodprint is that huge.

It's OK for whites to counterfeit Asian art...

Same, they sound completely fine and to be honest I can barely here a difference in headphones past the £200 mark anyway

@@joshuakielty Stay ignorant. It's cheaper.

Chico Man Cerwin Vega are just okay. They’re not audiophile speakers by any stretch of the imagination. They are “west coast sound” speakers. CV are also known as “party speakers”. They are efficient speakers that can play loud and usually put out some good mid-bass.They can take some pretty good abuse. The woofers usually have the trademark red surrounds but the foam surrounds do rot over time. The good news is that they can be re-foamed with like surrounds. One thing I do like about CV woofers is that they are cast aluminum. The tweeters can sound harsh at times. Build quality of the cabinets is decent to good. You either love them or hate Cerwin Vega. I’ve owned a pair of VS-120(sold them) and currently a pair of AT-8. Cerwin Vega are okay for a throw down pair of speakers but not good enough for serious critical listening.

robertm2000 Sued for criticizing ther mediocre headphones? More pathetic than I thought.

The over the ear headphones or any head or earphones by Bose is the only that makes them better but their home theatres or anything else by them is just trash compare to other brands out there and just way over prized. We just get fooled in to buying Bose because of how much money they put in to marketing. You will be mind blown if you listen to high end marantz or Yamaha.

well rip my 370€ I want to fucking die now

I’m listening on my bose overear. And he sounds great. Lolll

May be some people considered that high price as the single point proofing high audio quality. They did not notice obvious difference of concept expressed in word Lifestyle - while that was the advantage to pay. I do not think Bose fooled people as it was nor recommended to declared audiophiles for which BOSE always had another shelve. .

Even sounds amazing

I play small clubs and I actually rejected the L series Because I needed two to get stereo. That would have made them far too expensive . I was interested in the lighter weight but I use leslie effects and chorus etc. Stereo works much better for my taste.I have no problem with equalization as I am led to believe ( by this article) that audi0philes do.

equalization is a great you cant have sound without it not one single person here would say equalization is a bad thing

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Protective Dad Pranks good move, B&O also make some great headphones, can be pricey though.

Protective Dad Pranks B&W is great

Check out Monitor Audio speakers. Far more musical and emotionally engaging than Bose or B&W. Even their Studio bookshelf speakers are amazing. B&W is another over-priced brand name catering to people who know nothing about good sound and just want to buy a status symbol.

LorenzoNW I think you’re wrong about B&W, they make some excellent speakers and their P7 wireless headphones are excellent quality for the money. Each to their own though, the audio market is a very subjective area and people will champion different brands.

@@Eleventhearlofmars I never heard B&W headphones so I have no opinion on them. I own the Sennheiser 800S with ToneKraft headphone cable from Audio Envy. It sounds very musically engaging through a modified Cary 300SEI. Bose is low-hanging fruit. It’s essentially a marketing company. But there are plenty of very expensive brands that are poor values in terms of audio quality too. I remember auditioning a $250K Wilson Watt sound system that sounded like a glorified boom box. The problem isn’t that audio is subjective; It’s that 95% of so-called audiophiles have never been exposed to good audio so they don’t even know what’s possible. For around $10K you can buy a pair of Chapman T-7 speakers that are far more musical than most speakers costing two to four times as much. You can buy a good tube amp for around $5K that will sound far more musical than any SS amp. But most people are sheep, buying into marketing and sleazy sales people.

Branded Overpriced Sucky Equipment?

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Beginners Only Scam Execution Bad Output Sound Equipment uh, Bacteria-ridden Oozing Scab Entree??? idk

No it's big old sexy elephant 🐘

Orleans Better Order Something Else

I got my Infinity 2.5 RS refoamed. It's still great...!