Why Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Needed To Be First-Person

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IGN

IGN

6 ай бұрын

Why is Avatar Frontiers of Pandora first person? We spoke to the developers of the upcoming action-adventure game to find out why they chose first-person instead of third-person perspective.
While many players were hoping for a third-person Avatar game, hopefully this video explains why Massive Entertainment opted for a different route. And, having played two hours of it for our recent preview, I genuinely think the perspective works to properly anchor you into the strange, beautiful world of Pandora.
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@PlayGameOnMac
@PlayGameOnMac 5 ай бұрын
Yeah for some people, no third person mode is a reason not to buy.
@johannord4778
@johannord4778 5 ай бұрын
People always finds something to complain about
@OVERLOARD949494
@OVERLOARD949494 5 ай бұрын
They could have made it like Bethesda and let the player choose.
@vise_atoxity8083
@vise_atoxity8083 5 ай бұрын
@@marcamusprime9513What are you confused about..
@goat9295
@goat9295 5 ай бұрын
@@johannord4778 and others like whatever is put in front of them
@Morenob1
@Morenob1 4 ай бұрын
@@johannord4778 What if GTA 6 or the next Spiderman game is only in first person ask yourself that.
@fortychase7707
@fortychase7707 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy they say this stuff but when they show the 3rd person riding, it’s the most immersive part of the trailer
@reekhavoc2932
@reekhavoc2932 5 ай бұрын
😭💯
@rampager1990
@rampager1990 5 ай бұрын
Maybe for someone who lives their life through a screen.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
To YOU
@fortychase7707
@fortychase7707 5 ай бұрын
@@zedus4042 damn bro you got me there for sure !! 😅😅
@kartoffelbiene
@kartoffelbiene 5 ай бұрын
Not really but ok
@x-manfam705
@x-manfam705 5 ай бұрын
Never understood the argument that First person = more immersion, there are plenty of third person games that feel amazing and just as immersive as any firtst person. Being able to see your character's model/armor and clothing, and watching them interact with the npc's and environments is way more immersive imo.
@lewismessam6866
@lewismessam6866 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, look at horizon forbidden west
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 5 ай бұрын
It's laziness, they don't want to bother modelling characters. You are basically playing as a camera in first person. There is nothing immersive about that
@VAVORiAL
@VAVORiAL 5 ай бұрын
Disagreed. Though there are obviously phenomenal third person games.
@heavyartillery-qm5hu
@heavyartillery-qm5hu 5 ай бұрын
Horizon is not immersive. it's very arcade-y. Deus Ex is immersive. Stalker is immersive. @@lewismessam6866
@rounakmanna5916
@rounakmanna5916 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@DTEVibes
@DTEVibes 5 ай бұрын
I’ll say first person can be quite immersive, however, if they have a character creator, and still locked in first person, that character creator was pointless.
@jinuouslopez9069
@jinuouslopez9069 5 ай бұрын
Nah not really. You get dressed do your hair, etc. And don't see it. Yet it's not pointless.
@Brandon-vv3zr
@Brandon-vv3zr 5 ай бұрын
@@jinuouslopez9069that’s a braindead dogshit analogy lmao in real life other people can see you. only people who can see this is your coop partner (if you even have one) and NPCS
@davidlima9461
@davidlima9461 5 ай бұрын
​@@jinuouslopez9069don't compare real life with a video games dawg 😂😂😂
@jinuouslopez9069
@jinuouslopez9069 5 ай бұрын
@davidlima9461 usually don't but the logic is the same. Why complain about a game having character creation but being first person. When in real life people customize themselves and never see it outside of the mirror when applying and check if it's how the individual wants it to be.
@IceClawz.
@IceClawz. 4 ай бұрын
How is it useless when coop exists
@7mike2300
@7mike2300 5 ай бұрын
Hate when games do this, and then offer clothing and customization options that you can only see in cut scenes.
@andresballadares7875
@andresballadares7875 5 ай бұрын
With Cyberpunk 2077 as one of the worst offenders, that game had so much wasted potential
@jamesconlin5099
@jamesconlin5099 5 ай бұрын
the cutscenes arent in 3rd person are you acoustic?
@KORNdog1986
@KORNdog1986 5 ай бұрын
​@@jamesconlin5099I think he's electric
@skullkraken_resurrected9857
@skullkraken_resurrected9857 5 ай бұрын
Right? Fkn greedy devs and they don't even listen to gamers this is not what gamers want we are pain money for this shet
@dantesilvesta
@dantesilvesta 5 ай бұрын
@@skullkraken_resurrected9857don’t buy it then
@JLeeCN
@JLeeCN 5 ай бұрын
"It wasn't really even a big discussion for us" Yeah well maybe it should have been
@Kingclutch12
@Kingclutch12 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, idk how is that not an option
@iamsobrino
@iamsobrino 4 ай бұрын
100%%
@jvd112603
@jvd112603 5 ай бұрын
They just didn't want to animate the main character that much haha
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
game is co-op, they have to do it anyway dumbo
@kevindegustv2530
@kevindegustv2530 5 ай бұрын
Yeah this Is the Truth hahahah
@davidlima9461
@davidlima9461 5 ай бұрын
100%
@traviswells6938
@traviswells6938 5 ай бұрын
The game is co-op, the character has animations and they’re visible from the other players perspective and the photo mode of single player
@CaptainHindsight-xt9yd
@CaptainHindsight-xt9yd 4 ай бұрын
@@traviswells6938if that’s so then why can’t they give the option to switch between first and third person? Probably because it would look bad since they didn’t put in that much work into the animations.
@Vitearys
@Vitearys 5 ай бұрын
People have been asking for a 3d person view option since it was announced, they're already not listening to players
@Dahkeus3
@Dahkeus3 5 ай бұрын
First person games are no more likely to make me "feel" like I'm in the game than third person. IGN should know. After all, they are always saying how the new Spider Man games make them "feel" like Spider Man.
@cardecito8203
@cardecito8203 5 ай бұрын
Third person would make it your own character, but first person just makes it a blue arm Far Cry game.
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
Dumbass logic
@jonslayr4901
@jonslayr4901 5 ай бұрын
Third person really would have differentiated it from Far Cry or at least the option to go between both.
@mjfullente3359
@mjfullente3359 5 ай бұрын
Why not both? Why limit it to just first person? Just make an options in a settings to be a first person or a third person. No one will complain and everybody wins.
@jj007104
@jj007104 5 ай бұрын
This was their way of saying they didn't want to bother with the extra dev cost to make it third person...less work for them to show little arms on each side vs actually animating a character...I won't be buying it, I'm sure it's a great game but first person actually makes me dizzy
@Darcie6
@Darcie6 4 ай бұрын
@@jj007104it’s an amazing game still playing it the story and the quests and everyone even the map is soooo beautiful
@sethfeldpausch4337
@sethfeldpausch4337 5 ай бұрын
Here's an idea: WHY NOT BOTH?! Many games, such as No Man's Sky and RDR2 have both a 3rd person and 1st person view mode, so why not offer that here?
@bluemarvel5970
@bluemarvel5970 5 ай бұрын
Why not? Well the most likely answer is they did only one so that they could cut corners but not including both options.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 5 ай бұрын
yeah, but people don't give elden ring crap for not being first person
@omariking6842
@omariking6842 5 ай бұрын
@@legendp2011Well think about it, have you ever seen anyone complain about a game being third person?
@hueypautonoman
@hueypautonoman 5 ай бұрын
@@bluemarvel5970They basically said that in the video. It would be more work, which means more money spent.
@Matt-jc2ml
@Matt-jc2ml 5 ай бұрын
@hueypautonoman more sun too
@omariking6842
@omariking6842 5 ай бұрын
Look for 10 years people been saying they wanted an Avatar game like old one but in modern graphics. How they thought no one would have a problem with this is beyond me🤷🏾‍♂️
@Darcie6
@Darcie6 4 ай бұрын
I’m happy we got it how it is
@touchdown081
@touchdown081 4 ай бұрын
@@Darcie6that is nice for you and the other five people but what about all the others?
@DanielJamesShirley
@DanielJamesShirley 5 ай бұрын
First person platforming sections are also extremely annoying.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
mirrors edge....
@Vitearys
@Vitearys 5 ай бұрын
exactly, they made such a cool enviromental platforming, things to jump to and climb, and we won't see our characters actually doing those cool parkouls and cat leaps
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
@@Vitearys nobody cares. Mirrors edge proves thar
@bazilisek502
@bazilisek502 5 ай бұрын
@@Noob-yx1cu ah you mean the game where everything is white expect parts that you need to jump on?
@shavthesav
@shavthesav 5 ай бұрын
still needs to be third person
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
And u still needa lose ur virginity but we can’t all get what we want
@haleender955
@haleender955 5 ай бұрын
This only proves Ubisoft doesn't understand their target audience
@user-ev4ov6wr1d
@user-ev4ov6wr1d Ай бұрын
Typical Ubisoft hater.... if you don't like them, why do you keep talking about them? You have no life?
@haleender955
@haleender955 Ай бұрын
@@user-ev4ov6wr1d the gaming industry keeps getting worse because of consumers like you. No wonder you're so triggered
@christopherthreadgill6195
@christopherthreadgill6195 5 ай бұрын
Definitely should’ve been third person
@DunkeyMediaDM718
@DunkeyMediaDM718 5 ай бұрын
Third person looks weird
@Connormccloud25
@Connormccloud25 5 ай бұрын
Won't look right the whole point is to be immeresed not disconnected you want third person play gta
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 5 ай бұрын
cope
@chunderpot
@chunderpot 5 ай бұрын
WRONG
@SnowJester
@SnowJester 5 ай бұрын
​@@DunkeyMediaDM718You look weird, everything about you is weird.
@PvtDutch
@PvtDutch 5 ай бұрын
The first avatar game was third person and felt very immersed
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 5 ай бұрын
This game should be more like Halo
@vgnvideogameninja2930
@vgnvideogameninja2930 5 ай бұрын
This Avatar game will provide far superior immersion tho.
@vgnvideogameninja2930
@vgnvideogameninja2930 5 ай бұрын
@@jmz2144 No it shouldn't be. Halo games are dumpster fires.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
lmao you are tripping@@vgnvideogameninja2930
@ricoaioa
@ricoaioa 5 ай бұрын
no it didn't
@Cococokieful
@Cococokieful 5 ай бұрын
3rd person is best. 1st person is as common as tons of any other shooter games.
@caiomenudo
@caiomenudo 5 ай бұрын
The actual reason is that this is a Far Cry with Avatar skin. To change that, they'd have to do everything from scratch 😂
@randyx3976
@randyx3976 5 ай бұрын
farcry 6 would like to disagree
@caiomenudo
@caiomenudo 5 ай бұрын
@@randyx3976 i'm literally playing that right and it really doesn't seem different
@randyx3976
@randyx3976 5 ай бұрын
@@caiomenudo it does have a 3rd person view when firing your supremo
@laurendonnelly5300
@laurendonnelly5300 5 ай бұрын
its not even being made by the same studio who make farcry, they are the ones who made the division. Everyone hating for no reason, even if it is similar to farcry how does that make it bad
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 5 ай бұрын
3rd person is immersive too. You get to see the action. Assassins Creed parkour for example
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
jesus christ when will yall understand that it isn't AS immersive, the ceiling for immersion is simply way higher
@jevontewashington7409
@jevontewashington7409 5 ай бұрын
@@Noob-yx1cuwhen will you understand that this is an opinion based conversation it may be more immersive in 1st person to SOME people but for other people it is more immersive in 3rd person.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
@@jevontewashington7409 first person done well will always be mor immersive. That's just how it works
@lamb-tika-cod4934
@lamb-tika-cod4934 5 ай бұрын
​@@Noob-yx1cuin your opinion. Yes. Your.opinion.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
@@lamb-tika-cod4934 how do you see the world?
@ellthiccboy1998
@ellthiccboy1998 5 ай бұрын
4:08 ah yes, the immersive gaming experience everyone asked for, going through a door, cheers
@boxingenthusiast4016
@boxingenthusiast4016 5 ай бұрын
😄
@jacksonhahn
@jacksonhahn 5 ай бұрын
Yall missing the whole point and it's crazy. The forest in first person with all of the sounds and music will be hella immersive.
@shoutmon1337
@shoutmon1337 5 ай бұрын
@@jacksonhahnthat woulda been the case either way. It’s first person because this is literally just a far cry reskin. They SHOULD have just made a new game and not tried to trick people into thinking they did
@jacksonhahn
@jacksonhahn 5 ай бұрын
@@shoutmon1337 if it was a far cry re skin then they would've used the far cry developers not massive. Massive could have decided to go third person but they chose first for immersion. It actually looks like it's taken more inspiration from horizon games and it's only similar to far cry because it's an open world Ubisoft game.
@salahtbessi9971
@salahtbessi9971 4 ай бұрын
The witcher 3 and RDR2 forests were really immersives in 3rd person view@@jacksonhahn
@gagemoseley6122
@gagemoseley6122 5 ай бұрын
lmao explaining why being in third person when on mounts being the whole reason why we want the game to be in third person, devs are so out of touch....
@dtanobo
@dtanobo 5 ай бұрын
So it could use the exact same blueprint as previous far cry games
@bencourtemanche
@bencourtemanche 5 ай бұрын
was thinking the same thing lol
@rashonkelly3598
@rashonkelly3598 5 ай бұрын
This company is driving me crazy !! 😂
@jacksonhahn
@jacksonhahn 5 ай бұрын
This isn't even made by the guys who made far cry. It's because they thought it would be more immersive like they just said. The setting alone and the fact you can ride an Ikran will make it way different than far cry. It's just similar because it's an open world first person shooter by Ubisoft not much else.
@courtneywilliams6376
@courtneywilliams6376 5 ай бұрын
Bingo
@courtneywilliams6376
@courtneywilliams6376 5 ай бұрын
Outposts? @@jacksonhahn
@prouddog4533
@prouddog4533 5 ай бұрын
“As close to it as possible as can be!” This needed a VR mode. Like James Cameron wanted you to watch the films in 3D, this would have been awesome in VR.
@Sword420
@Sword420 5 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. Do you even realize how much the graphics would've had to have been downgraded to make that possible? No, probably not.
@jacksonhahn
@jacksonhahn 5 ай бұрын
@@Sword420ya but it can happen in 5-10 years maybe
@prouddog4533
@prouddog4533 5 ай бұрын
@@Sword420 a comment from someone who does not own or understand the tech behind VR jeez
@prouddog4533
@prouddog4533 5 ай бұрын
Check Assains Creed VR running on a standalone headset as you starting point 😀
@epongeclaquette4
@epongeclaquette4 3 ай бұрын
​@@Sword420i believe there are already vr mods
@john_hunter_
@john_hunter_ 5 ай бұрын
It had to be 1st person because Far Cry is built as a 1st person game. It was just easier that way.
@johnwayne-kd1pn
@johnwayne-kd1pn 5 ай бұрын
Probably yes. I've seen how Far Cry games look in 3rd person perspective, it's a huge mess.
@rubyrock555
@rubyrock555 5 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter if its 3rd or 1st person. All that matters is how the devs make it work. Look at RDR2 which is primarily in 3rd person or cyberpunk 2077 which is in 1st person. Arguably 2 of the most immersive games in recent years
@Kingclutch12
@Kingclutch12 5 ай бұрын
Cyberpunk should have been 1st and 3rd person, you can customize your character but you dnt see it
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
@@Kingclutch12the devs made a decision to make cyberpunk first person from the jump becuz the whole point is ur literally supposed to feel like ur character. U can see ur fit when ur walking and in cars and on bikes which is all u need. Little subtle reminders. The story is so much better becuz it’s in first person.
@simonrockstream
@simonrockstream 5 ай бұрын
RDR2 is literally both. It has the best first person experience of any game. And it did both.
@zanblr
@zanblr 5 ай бұрын
​@@rayvintankerson6818strange when you're in a vehicle you switch to third person though
@r3act3m67
@r3act3m67 5 ай бұрын
​@@rayvintankerson6818they also removed the planned third person cutscenes for immersion and definitely not a time constraint
@miller413
@miller413 5 ай бұрын
Real reason is that it's a huge corner to cut, not having to do animations for thrd person. If it was truly 1st person for immersion, the gane would have a VR option.
@johnwayne-kd1pn
@johnwayne-kd1pn 5 ай бұрын
Seems like it.
@Jide
@Jide 5 ай бұрын
They won't have included any third person if they truly believe first is more immersive.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
They have to do them anyway because the game is co op
@randyx3976
@randyx3976 5 ай бұрын
you do realize it's a co op game?
@drizzy018624
@drizzy018624 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, how do we know a VR option isn't in the works? Or a VR spin-off at the least?
@Zakithebadboy
@Zakithebadboy 5 ай бұрын
Free running is one of the biggest parts about Avatar but we get none of that without 3rd person. Game is a solid 4/10 in 1st person.
@sleepyvibez8912
@sleepyvibez8912 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, should have been like AC. How do they expect us to enjoy parkour in first person
@Zakithebadboy
@Zakithebadboy 5 ай бұрын
@@sleepyvibez8912 Simple… You Don’t. 😐
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever been running in the forrest?
@Djaermi
@Djaermi 5 ай бұрын
The biggest part of Avatar is that humans become Na'vi avatars. That's why it's called Avatar. We get none of THAT without 1st person.
@sheene.c9455
@sheene.c9455 5 ай бұрын
@@Djaermithat’s dumb logic.
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 5 ай бұрын
Dont really understand where people get the idea that FPS games promote immersion. Not for me it doesn't i hate FPS games and much prefer 3rd person. That idea is subjective, just because you think its immersive does not mean other people do, its just a lazy way for developers to not bother modelling characters and character movements etc.
@heavyartillery-qm5hu
@heavyartillery-qm5hu 5 ай бұрын
Or maybe people like you don't want immersion, but lazy tps combat and exploration.
@-_-hisoka3813
@-_-hisoka3813 5 ай бұрын
​@@heavyartillery-qm5huwell how about them just adding a toggle button and boom everyone is happy just like resident evil village
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 5 ай бұрын
​@@-_-hisoka3813The whole thing about FPS = immersion is the biggest load of bull I've ever heard. 85% of the best games of all time are 3rd person. Proves people do not really care about this so called "immersion"
@johnwayne-kd1pn
@johnwayne-kd1pn 5 ай бұрын
It's just an excuse so they can make unimmersive games and claim they are immersive because they are in 1st person, instead of spending the effort at creating an actually immersive game.
@stevenbishop1782
@stevenbishop1782 5 ай бұрын
​@@heavyartillery-qm5huIt's not Doom you pseudo Boomer
@alexischarmes5840
@alexischarmes5840 5 ай бұрын
"FiRst pErSon GivES moRe IMmerSioN" *laugh in rockstar games*
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 5 ай бұрын
Both GTA5 and RDR2 can be played from first person perspective you moron
@yah327
@yah327 5 ай бұрын
Yes 3rd person is needed
@SnowJester
@SnowJester 5 ай бұрын
Should've been 4th person.
@ryndaman2855
@ryndaman2855 5 ай бұрын
2nd person is better
@arealduck123
@arealduck123 5 ай бұрын
11th person wouldn't save this😂
@SpartanArooArooAroo
@SpartanArooArooAroo 5 ай бұрын
VR is still possible, they been coming out later like they did with RE8 and RE4. VR could be possible with the PSVR2 😎
@jorgealexandre125
@jorgealexandre125 5 ай бұрын
I'm a 3rd person gamer, not saying it's bad, but we should be able to choose between 1st and 3rd for every tastes.
@mackxproductions3443
@mackxproductions3443 5 ай бұрын
I'd say Red Dead is immersive..its 3rd Person IJS. They missed on this one not having a 3rd person option at least
@hueypautonoman
@hueypautonoman 5 ай бұрын
That’s because visuals don’t really make or break immersion unless there is something extremely noticeable. It’s gameplay that makes a game immersive.
@vgnvideogameninja2930
@vgnvideogameninja2930 5 ай бұрын
@@hueypautonoman It's both. It takes both the visuals and gameplay combined to make a game immersive.
@hueypautonoman
@hueypautonoman 5 ай бұрын
@@vgnvideogameninja2930 Maybe for some. I'm old enough to have been adequately immersed in text-based advetures long ago.
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
This ain’t a rockstar game buddy go play red dead
@tacotimefortwo732
@tacotimefortwo732 5 ай бұрын
Why not have both options? Like Bethesda you can do first or third
@sleepyvibez8912
@sleepyvibez8912 5 ай бұрын
It was literally explained in the video
@greedyyawgoo5635
@greedyyawgoo5635 5 ай бұрын
Didn't CDPR use the same reason why they made Cyberpunk First Person? We only found out after the release that they didn't have time to mocap animation.
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 5 ай бұрын
No
@viniciuseduardobomfim
@viniciuseduardobomfim 5 ай бұрын
Nope, for Cyberpunk 2077, CD Projekt RED created a brand new engine instead of reusing the one from The Witcher 3. Since it's conception, Cyberpunk's game engine had first person in mind and that idea was supported by Mike Pondsmith (the creator of Cyberpunk 2020, which serves as a base for 2077)
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 5 ай бұрын
@@viniciuseduardobomfim yup, this.
@jimmythegamer2231
@jimmythegamer2231 5 ай бұрын
Tbh Cyberpunk should have had a third-person mode so that you could switch between first- and third-person. Customizing the look of your character is kinda pointless in Cyberpunk since you barely see them.
@viniciuseduardobomfim
@viniciuseduardobomfim 5 ай бұрын
@@jimmythegamer2231 well, CD Projekt RED already confirmed that the next Witcher Trilogy as well as Cyberpunk's sequel, will be using Unreal Engine 5. So it's fair to assume the next Cyberpunk game will be third person (and also have an optional first person mode).
@nerdycatgoddess
@nerdycatgoddess 5 ай бұрын
they wanted it to be immersive, but they said we can't hiss at enemy's, the na'vi hiss and our character can't hiss at will. why!
@reekhavoc2932
@reekhavoc2932 5 ай бұрын
Go play stray then 😂
@reekhavoc2932
@reekhavoc2932 5 ай бұрын
Da fuq
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
Yes let's dedicate one button for something that's useless gameplay wise
@nerdycatgoddess
@nerdycatgoddess 5 ай бұрын
It could have a threatening mechanic that has a chance to scare off enemy's
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
@@nerdycatgoddess doesnt make sense
@BestHunterSniper
@BestHunterSniper 5 ай бұрын
It should have been in third person and also 2 campaign story modes, Marines side and Avatar sides. With multiplayer modes 30 vs 30, coop mode and more.
@williamblake8560
@williamblake8560 5 ай бұрын
The issue people are having with it being a first person game is you give the player the option to customize your character and they msy want to look at their customized character. When the developers offered example of Bioshock games, those already have a non-customized character that has been predetermined.
@Vitearys
@Vitearys 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Aszourus
@Aszourus 5 ай бұрын
It didn't need to be that's a choice, the third person part with the riding was the best
@Darcie6
@Darcie6 4 ай бұрын
Nah
@awesomejanith
@awesomejanith 5 ай бұрын
First person is a deal breaker for me.
@pudgyfolds2186
@pudgyfolds2186 5 ай бұрын
Its cos it WAY CHEAPER to make an FPS game than it would've been to make a working 3rd person parkour/combat shooter system. Its that simple.
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
U sound dumb asf 🤣and like u know nothing bout game development the internet wild. It’s a coop game bozo. Whoever ur playing with has full animations so its not like its not there
@GamerGeezer
@GamerGeezer 5 ай бұрын
No game needs to be anything. But if you want a pleased player base, listen to them. If you want them to not feel insulted and patronised, don't tell them what they should think ign/devs.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
Do y'all birch that some games are third person only? A big double standard don't you think?
@jordanangell9822
@jordanangell9822 5 ай бұрын
Shhhh you whinny child...
@lindyk6366
@lindyk6366 5 ай бұрын
It's important to follow your own artistic vision. It's not patronizing or telling people what to think. It's their project. Seems a bit too entitled to say, "We don't like what you've done. Change it so that it pleases us."
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
Also they are just explaining why they think was the better thing to do lmao
@LeocaprioDinardo
@LeocaprioDinardo 5 ай бұрын
@@lindyk6366sells will judge them for sure.
@arico7923
@arico7923 5 ай бұрын
Read dead redemption 2 has option for both first person and 3rd person yet a lot of people play in 3rd person.
@randyx3976
@randyx3976 5 ай бұрын
because the game is supposed to be played on 3rd person. rdr 2 1st person is not it's best quality.
@user-vp6po3el5c
@user-vp6po3el5c 5 ай бұрын
The devs thinking we care more about some tree branch over a third person customization is hilarious.....😂😂
@jtheodore
@jtheodore 5 ай бұрын
If this was the actual case mounts would also be locked to First Person. Should be an option to switch.The same reasons they have for mounts could be used for Third person on foot as well. Dumb reasoning to be honest.
@skyex4701
@skyex4701 5 ай бұрын
Like how are you gonna tell the people buying the game how they should play or be immersed… they will get back lash then all of the sudden they will be able to make it third person…
@vinced7618
@vinced7618 5 ай бұрын
Wholly disagree with this take. AC is immersive. The Arkham games are immersive. This should have been 3rd person for the bigger, wider, more free camera.
@kevindina
@kevindina 5 ай бұрын
CDPR said same lies to cut development time.. There is nothing immersive about playing as camera..
@Wizardscrotch
@Wizardscrotch 5 ай бұрын
To be as close as Farc- Pandora as possible.
@hurricane7743
@hurricane7743 5 ай бұрын
They need to put third person option
@jbuenaventura7647
@jbuenaventura7647 5 ай бұрын
You could always make a mod
@apexpredator4937
@apexpredator4937 5 ай бұрын
Couldve been like a bethesda game where its both 1st & 3rd person.
@patcalderone9464
@patcalderone9464 5 ай бұрын
Everything they just said about 3rd person for flying can be the same for 3rd person as your running in pandora lol like wtf?
@Archeteo
@Archeteo 5 ай бұрын
First-person is absolutely the worst and least immersive camera angle in games. Unless you're playing in VR, first-person doesn't actually make any sense. Oh and it's first-person because it's effectively a Far Cry reskin lol.
@ashutoshchar940
@ashutoshchar940 5 ай бұрын
Lets be honest they dont want to make whole body animations for 3rd person this tell me what to expect from the game
@andresballadares7875
@andresballadares7875 5 ай бұрын
World immersion won't mean much if gameplay, storyline, and objectives/mission design and structures are poor, so let's hope that won't be the case for this game
@goateatingpie9813
@goateatingpie9813 5 ай бұрын
Why can't we have both
@notesonwheels
@notesonwheels 5 ай бұрын
Everytime games switch to 3rd person in mounts and while flying, they remind us they are a failure in 1st person.
@HunteRWOLF-AvilAsh
@HunteRWOLF-AvilAsh 5 ай бұрын
Would have been better if it was in 3rd person but I'm guessing they wanted to cut down the render time and also animations, as a character in 3rd person requires more animations and render times. But then again considering the amount of artists and systems you all have it was possible.
@Vitearys
@Vitearys 5 ай бұрын
Right? They're not a small company at all, and if the directors themselves decided to cut down budget for the developers when making a game about Avatar of all things then they're just asking for this to go wrong
@TheeSoulKing
@TheeSoulKing 5 ай бұрын
They had years and years, plus an insane budget. Should've been both tbh. Or a very quality/focused 3rd person
@philsurtees
@philsurtees 5 ай бұрын
_"3rd person requires more animations and render times"_ Completely and utterly wrong! You have no idea what you're talking about...
@Vitearys
@Vitearys 5 ай бұрын
@@philsurtees ?
@Darcie6
@Darcie6 4 ай бұрын
Won’t work on 3rd person lol
@halfricasveryown
@halfricasveryown 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if the Spiderman 2 developers had made that game in first person because they wanted NY to be more immersive. 🤣 🤢
@rashidhumine
@rashidhumine 5 ай бұрын
The reason why it's First Person view is because this is Far Cry 3 with a Avatar Skin overlay.
@CouchtrollPodcastDS
@CouchtrollPodcastDS 5 ай бұрын
After playing far cry, it’s easy to see why they would choose first person
@sauliusvekteris526
@sauliusvekteris526 5 ай бұрын
yup re used assets. Laziness
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
@@sauliusvekteris526u speak and have no knowledge of what ur speaking of. Go watch a review lmao. Everyone praising this game for the choice. Cry hard
@dangerjuice503
@dangerjuice503 5 ай бұрын
Why not just give the player the choice?
@victorcarvalhal2482
@victorcarvalhal2482 5 ай бұрын
hope someone make a mod for pc in 3rd person 🙌🙌
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
Hope not just so u dumbass mfs can stay mad
@FUNNYTIKTOK789
@FUNNYTIKTOK789 5 ай бұрын
should`ve been third person
@juliuswordie7791
@juliuswordie7791 5 ай бұрын
In the words of Drake: That excuse just doesn't fly.
@runner9528
@runner9528 5 ай бұрын
"it's double the work to have both" then just pick 3rd person
@rayvintankerson6818
@rayvintankerson6818 5 ай бұрын
No
@jimmykhaled
@jimmykhaled 5 ай бұрын
Still they should’ve considered what the fans wanted, they could’ve easily made it like gta 5 and let the players chose what style of game they would like to play
@HypoThrive
@HypoThrive 5 ай бұрын
Nah, bigger brain play would have been to give us an option to choose between 1st and 3rd 🤔
@randyx3976
@randyx3976 5 ай бұрын
that would've ruined the game, look at gta v and rdr 2 both are supposed to be played in 3rd person and thier 1st person mode isn't really clean
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY@@randyx3976
@kalkeyz
@kalkeyz 5 ай бұрын
‘AVP’ & ‘Predator: Concrete Jungle’ both offered 2 different POV. Typically, gamers associate open world with 3rd person e.g. GTA. Now imagine that game solely as 1st person… Happy to hear everyone’s thoughts..
@TruBluMonkey
@TruBluMonkey 5 ай бұрын
So we, the buyer groups, the consumer says, we want third person, as a whole. But the developers say… Naw but buy it Feels like a whoops
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 5 ай бұрын
When you are flying it’s 3rd person so it’s not like they couldn’t showcase that the entire game but it’s their game so oh well 😂
@hatdownlowofficial
@hatdownlowofficial 5 ай бұрын
Here’s a crazy idea. How about letting us choose ?
@CaptainHindsight-xt9yd
@CaptainHindsight-xt9yd 4 ай бұрын
Translation: we didn’t want to make it third person because we are lazy.
@ariacevedo6879
@ariacevedo6879 5 ай бұрын
Cannot wait to max him out and only see gloves lol
@JLichty14
@JLichty14 5 ай бұрын
Tell me the creators are doing damage control without telling me the creators are doing damage control 😂
@arealduck123
@arealduck123 5 ай бұрын
This game looks like it's from 2010.
@greedyyawgoo5635
@greedyyawgoo5635 5 ай бұрын
This needs to be the third person or have the ability to toggle for people not to accuse them of using Far Cry Methods… because this is just Far Cry Avatar Theme.
@musashigoten8193
@musashigoten8193 5 ай бұрын
Devs please listen to the people you WANT to purchase your game. No third person, I’ll pass. I’m voting with my wallet.
@ginjanuttah1070
@ginjanuttah1070 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see my new outfit in the rivers reflection 😕
@MrVancedawson1
@MrVancedawson1 5 ай бұрын
So basically “It would be double the work & we didn’t wanna do it”… Great to know… 😒
@RightTWlX
@RightTWlX 5 ай бұрын
This game should have been horizon forbidden west but avatar. Forbidden west has the perfect formula for an avatar game. Guerilla games should have been given this project not ubisoft.
@N.E.H
@N.E.H 5 ай бұрын
This game would have been a masterpiece like spiderman 2 if it was 3rd person game.
@rahatahmed2580
@rahatahmed2580 5 ай бұрын
Game developers need to stop shoving their ideas down our throats. Cyberpunk did the same thing and now they are doing it. These games with vast open vistas with numerous varied locations NEED to have a 3rd person option and it's coming from a person who mostly plays FPS games. Open world games deserve at least an optional 3rd person mode and there shouldn't be any exception.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
cyberpunk is proof that first person is just inherently more immersive
@The-Dino942
@The-Dino942 5 ай бұрын
This game should be a 3rd person game
@dkking787
@dkking787 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if “The last of us” was first person
@robinekhoodekful
@robinekhoodekful 5 ай бұрын
With this philosophy Cyberpunk 2077 was made in 1st person, and it shows that it clearly should have been in 3rd person.
@omariking6842
@omariking6842 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@kingstonshacklebolt1431
@kingstonshacklebolt1431 5 ай бұрын
They are making the same colossal mistake that Cyberpunk 2077 made. Game developers should've learned by now from the Grand Theft Auto series and Hogwarts Legacy that third person open world games with character creation and customization are the most popular games.
@w0ydy
@w0ydy 5 ай бұрын
First person is always the easy way out. Takes a huge chunk out of the production process, eliminating hundreds of hours of AAA mo-cap, detailing the main character's pixel-dense char model and subsequently all possible pieces of customization and animations. Also throws cover shooting, parkour, and more out of the window. The right way to go is what Horizon did: their main games in 3rd person and only a spin-off vr game in 1st person. 3rd person games to me are more personal and more immersive because when my character reacts to the environment, whether getting shot at, or expressing emotion through movement and body language, that's a more immersive connection than 1st person that connects me to my character and make me care more.
@bananawarriorwootwoot
@bananawarriorwootwoot 5 ай бұрын
How difficult would it have been to have both options? Isn't it just zoom in zoom out?
@LordOfJazz
@LordOfJazz 5 ай бұрын
no
@johnwayne-kd1pn
@johnwayne-kd1pn 5 ай бұрын
Basically yes, but you also have to animate the character and the measurements (perspective) need to be correct and aligned. You can't just slap a camera in the air and float it around and say, "this is the world and gameplay".
@LordOfJazz
@LordOfJazz 5 ай бұрын
@@johnwayne-kd1pn They ask "Isn't it just zoom in zoom out?" and the answer is No.
@RayKat.
@RayKat. 5 ай бұрын
@@johnwayne-kd1pn big companies are too lazy 💀 Reminds me minecraft devs💀☠️
@gleam6370
@gleam6370 5 ай бұрын
The character behind a 1st person view is hardly animated
@funkp0wer
@funkp0wer 5 ай бұрын
So are they saying Elden Ring wasn’t immersive because it was third person?? 😮
@chrishahn2937
@chrishahn2937 5 ай бұрын
Lol these devs are so confident they made the right choice with first person 😂🤣
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu 5 ай бұрын
because its clearly the superior choice for the style of gameplay
@OnionPiece.
@OnionPiece. 5 ай бұрын
Then why bother making those armor and clothing???? Just let the player change between 1st and third person
@JesseWhiteman117
@JesseWhiteman117 5 ай бұрын
Tbh quickly choosing FPS for development is a cheap cop out. They can use the immersion argument but devs have also said how easy development is with FPS view. 3rd person challenges devs to know what to put on screen. Plus animations and so on. This game looks perfect for a 3rd person experience but oh well.
@vidsurfer0725
@vidsurfer0725 5 ай бұрын
So its a classic case of creating a product that you think the players wanted, but finding out that isnt what they wanted, then defending a choice rather than listening to the people who want to play your game? Bold strategy Cotton!
@Dosnmeda
@Dosnmeda 5 ай бұрын
This game is screaming for a VR mode!
@demonicbrand1783
@demonicbrand1783 5 ай бұрын
We need a third person update soon please!!
@iamsobrino
@iamsobrino 4 ай бұрын
10000%
@Raygaming569
@Raygaming569 5 ай бұрын
please change it as 3rd person
@kanebarnes8242
@kanebarnes8242 4 ай бұрын
This is like making Spider-Man first person to make you feel more “immersed”, it makes no sense
@elijahgray2371
@elijahgray2371 5 ай бұрын
They’re gonna wish it was third person when they see those sales
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