Is that a Tylearned reference? Also, DanCo is still a plagiarist

Everyone in Invincible universe: “I’m the strongest🤓” Old Mark:🤫🗿

I love the fact that in this series with reality warpers and super geniuses that build world-destroying weapons, the strongest characters are just dudes who are really durable and hit really hard

IMO if battle beast wasn’t the way he was and was an actual team member if him and Allen team up against thrag I think they could take him

Viltrumites are the Saiyans, but Allen is the Zenkai god

Finally. EOS Allen getting the respect he deserves. He's too damn powerful.

Never forget his warrior code permanently fumbled the war and led to Nolan's and Oliver's death

Something of note is that battle beast injured himself fighting thragg, although thragg was also injured,we’ve seen that viltrimites are extremely resistant, we’ve seen them hold their own guts in their hand and still able to fly and fight,so that cut thragg got probably didn’t make him that much weaker l,while battle beast most definitely made him weaker,and still fought till the end

If battle beast didn’t nerf himself, and actually used his weapons, I’m sorry but he would’ve beaten thragg, honestly if his normal hits could somewhat blitz thragg, his sword would cleave thragg

Allen has some feats but I am annoyed how much Allen taunts his strength and really doesn't do much in the series. He's mostly tell don't show. The mark/Allen scuffle mark was angry but he wasn't TRYING to kill Allen he was just venting his anger with punches. Allen is stronger yes but it wasn't like it was some huge power gap either. We've never seen Allen pushed to his limits in a fight which annoys me. Who knows if he'd even have the grit and determination to fight for days? Everyone he fights is a friend or mostly nameless viltrumites. I love Allen cool guy but I wish he did have a true fight to prove all his words more concretely.

Allen all day. He doesn't even use his secret weapon in battle. He could easily get in his opponent's head. Play a few minds games. Then, take advantage of the opponent's hesitation.

Allen is stronger, just like you explained in the video, Allen taking on omni man to prevent omni man from interfering in Allen’s plans to use the scourge virus and him just casually beating omni man who is probably enraged to stop Allen proves it, dude is on Thraggs level until the end of the series where I say mark becomes the strongest since he defeats Allen

Really glad I found this page..i actually own the entire Invincible series but I haven’t read it to completion for a few years..this was a very good refresher

Allen is secretly stroonger than Thragg, but decides to remain observant and politically sound.

while you make a good case for allen I think battle beast is stronger from multiple scaling options like when in invincible 88 thrag claims that even infected and weakend he could still speed blitz allen

So we gonna ignore how thragg thretens to rip allen's head off before he can react and allen instantly backs down despite having help?

love those kinda videos from you 👍🔥

I just finished the comic and was kinda sad that EoS Mark didn’t have an absurd feat like pushing a solar system around to show how strong he really is

A tierlist video would be pretty cool!

I didn't believe you at first, but you made a lot of great points that I hadn't even thought of. You convinced me.

I think Allen could go toe to toe with Thragg but that he would ultimately lose as it would turn into a battle of wills. Mark beat Thragg because his spirit is indomitable and he was willing to die along with him if it meant he still died.

Kirkman has said before that the animated series is like a "second draft" in some cases, so who knows if that means something like this could happen

I'd be down for this fight. Or just Allen getting some 1v1 fights from other guys aside from the Graysons. Season 3 better squeeze in a good fight between Allen and Thokk.

Keep up the good work! I love your content

Me when I’m in a not reading the comic competition and my opponent is KeyIssues

"Incredibly more powerful" what top notch writing you got there. 😂

Yeah Allen could probably have taken thragg in my opinion , they could have gone toe to toe wonder why he never fought him instead of mark

Great video!

Allen being as strong as Thragg at the time he wanted to release the Scourge virus, would mean Thragg couldn't decapitate Allen and would mean he shouldn't have been affraid to battle him. Which for a narrative perspective doesn't make sense. I do consider him to be maybe stronger than Anissa at the time. But more than that seems vey questionable.

Vegeta threw Nappa so far he turned orange, lost an eye and ended up in an alternate dimension

I saw a Tier list in your video Superman vs Black Adam, do you intend to make a video explaining the tier list, or have you already done it?

Ngl, I’m surprised you didn’t make videos covering the mutants on X-men 97. Feels like a missed opportunity

Thing about Battle Beast is that he really lacks a lot of things that characters like Allen and Thragg take for granted He can't fly, and he doesn't have regenerative healing. If you fought him in space, and pushed him away from you, he wouldn't be able to get back and attack you again, hence why he has two clear loses in space. As for his fight with Thragg, he gave himself an injury that is objectively more dangerous to him than it would be if he were a Viltrumite. They have passive(though not extreme) healing, meaning that Thokk didn't even the odds to fight Thragg, he gave Thragg a handicap advantage. There's also the questionable point that Allen didn't go after Thragg with help from someone like Mark, and instead sent Thokk. If we're taking End of Series characters into account, then Allen wins, no doubt about that. However, given the fact that Thokk went from bleeding from above-average Viltrumite attacks, to 1v1ing Thragg while handicapped, I fully believe that had he lived, he would have increased in strength just as much as Thragg and Allen did. Overall, I would say that, given all 3 lived to the end of the series, and got the power-ups to match. That Allen, Thragg, and Thokk would all be relative to one another. With the winner in a fight between them only really depending on how you think Allen would fair against Thragg at the point when he and Thokk fought Allen does have a notable weakspot though, that being his eye. Conversely, I also don't think he'd be as willing to commit to an honorable duel with Thokk, and might just grapple with him until he can toss him out into space Edit: Also, just as a small note. I personally believe that when talking about same-series characters in a vs battle, that you should look at the characters as they were when both were alive. Like, for example. Android 19 vs Healthy Goku, you wouldn't look at that fight and use Goku from Dragon Ball Super, you'd use Goku from Android Saga DBZ.

Machine head hiring Battlebeast is like Kingpin hiring Thanos

Allen could take any viltrumite other than mark in the future and thragg to my understanding. Would have been interesting to see battle beast at full strength fight thragg at full strength. The fatal wound handicap made it “even” but there’s still no real way to tell how badly it hindered one or both of them.

BB vs Allen post evolution (either first or second) is literally coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

If only got crossover from Invincible Universe and Image Comics Universe. I totally wanted to see a fight between battle Beast vs Pitt, but I'd be happy to see a video on who would win between the two.

Leave it to danco to post the same video in the same day😂

Invincible is def not more powerful than superman 😂

I’m 99% sure kirkman was just messing with people with the whole invincible beats Superman thing

Everyone out here debating on who’s the strongest between all the characters. I just want to know what the hell they put into that bomb to make it do THAT to Allen. Must’ve been mde by Oppenheimer 2 or some shit.

Allen negs

note that Thragg didnt fight back when the viltrumites attacked him, he couldve destroyed them if he wanted

The battle I would love to see is Omniman vs Conquest

Alan sounds like the nice guy version of Doomsday.

Great video BTW

It would be cool if they let some of these characters fight each other for a bit in the show.

Generally agree with the video but just wanna clear up a couple points. Thragg didn't get a huge power boost, it's just that initially he was caught off guard and swarmed, while when he was showing an example, he was in control and using his far superior intellect and BIQ to beat the Ragnarrs. Also keep in mind that Battle Beast with his weapons cleared the Ragnarrs away with relative ease before their fight, meaning that according to this theory BB with weapons scales above Thragg. It's never explicitly stated if eos Allen is his strongest. Neither Mark nor Allen were taking that fight seriously and since Allen is a different species, we don't know if his aging works the same way as Viltrumite aging and makes him stronger (if anything, he'd be arguably similar to every other species, which gets weaker as they get older).

The problem with Allen fighting any big fights is that from a writing perspective, there's only so many times that can happen before he'd be overshadowing everyone else. They only give him the single near-death experience/power bump, and it was too much power for him to gain in one go. I think it would have been much more effective to have him get in a lot more situations like that through the comics to slowly build him up to the level of power we're used to him being at. That way there would be some room for fun matches like Allen vs BB.

The viltrumites who destroyed Viltrum could only do it by flying directly behind the projectile of Space Racer's limitless gun. The limitless gun did most of the work - it carved a clean hole in the planet and they raced behind it to widen it before the pressure of gravity could close it back.

Do invincible vs superboy next

Wait, Battle Beasts race is called Leonine? I thought his race was unnamed and fandom went with "Nekoparans"

Hold on did bro just cook ?

The thing about the battle beast vs thragg fight is, I can never get over the fact that thragg only seemed to be able to kill battle beast because of the wound that he gave himself, and the parts of the fight that we do get to see battle beast always seemed to have a slight advantage sure after battle beast died, everyone leveled up and he got left behind, but I'm not sure it's a big gap, thragg went from almost dying to one shotting the claw beasts, sure, but nolan managed to escape those beasts with much less injury than thragg had, does that mean nolan was stronger?

Battle Beast and Thor would be best of friends consider both thrive in battles and wars but could you imagine tho a fusion of Battle Beast and Allan the Alien? It would basically be offbrand cyclops Lobo LMAO

I like both these Invincible characters

Idk man, the feat of the destruction of Viltrum would be Multicontinental at best. Space Racer's gun did most of the trick as it can virtually punch through anything, and it was the thing that made the core unstable enough for Mark, Omniman and Thadeus to punch through. And even then they as Thadeus said they almost died.

My goat Allen is cooking bro 🙏🏿

Makes me wonder why he didnt double team thragg with mark

What is the name of the music being used in the background?

bro is literally just built different

Just a note on the sun thing -- is it really a fair comparison when superman's powers come directly from the sun and viltumite's powers don't? Not saying mark wins or anything but it doesn't seem like a real direct comparison.

None of the 3 blowing up the planet we're planetary at that time

i hope they explore how battle beast gets in the prison in season 3 because he states he hadnt fought a vitrumite so something else put him in there?

I like how you and dan co get allong

Nice video Can u do: How powerful is DCEU doomsday How powerful is Thragg How powerful is Battle beast Conquest vs Omniman Thragg vs Allen (before the end of the season) Anissa vs Conquest

I wonder if they will fight in the cartoon 🤯🤔

Now that i think about it isn’t battle beast like achilles

"This *is* a thing and if it isn't I will make it one because it should be" fair enough 😂 what an absolute goat

Allen is humungous, holy fucking shit

Really puts into perspective how strong end of series Mark is when best end of series Allen with seemingly relative ease, though it is possible that Allen got weaker over time due to age.

Machine head told battle beast there was someone as strong as a viltrumite on earth, meaning omni man and battle beast was promised a battle with him, but what he got was invincible who he thought may have been the one

0:53 It will be once it happens on the show.

The threat he poses is his capacity to become stronger after failure. That means that unless he is completely destroyed he will come back stronger than the opponent who defeated him. His potential to become the strongest is based on him fighting the strongest. Unless the opponent can ensure he is utterly destroyed (even if this opponent is superior) its best to not fight him at all.

Btw, Thragg only fought the Ragnars after they woke up from their sleep meaning they were more clumsy and less dangerous

I saw someone do the same video and the outcome was totally different

The problem with the superman vs invincible argument is theres only 1 mark but 100s of varients of superman. Its not really a fair argument to use only the best qualities of multiple superman. And as you stated in the video invincible or mark may not be sun proof but battle beast wasnt immune to the vaccume of space but he still held his own against thragg. What im getting at is just because the sun hurts mark doesnt automatically declare superman the victor. Infact superman regularly loses fights against physically weaker opponets. Not to mention mark may be weak to the sun but superman is weak to a green space rock. So yeah i do think mark can beat superman especially after the time skip. But you are right we should see more feats of mark. Its also good to note that mark regularly survives body dismemberment where as i dont see superman doing the same

Allen seems to be a good guy version of Doomsday

Up next Allen vs Tragg

Why has no one ever made a thragg vs Allen video? We all know thragg wins but still would be interesting

This guy's "weak point" is his eye!?! I thought it was depth perception.

Interesting, could you do the 4 horsemen of apocalypse (xmen) v the black order(mcu)

BB wasn’t bleeding against the viltrumites he was biting into them like he did Thragg You can’t say Allen is stronger when he hasn’t even been really tested & did nothing face to face with Thragg

Allen went form not being able to handle 1 viltrumite to being thragg level after the first zenkai boost. Then he gets ANOTHER ONE and he’s easily the strongest character in the verse until mark gets old and beats him

Allen has the saiyans zenkai boost lol

Isnt this the same prison that held battle beast?

Is agree with this assessment

I wish we get Battle beast vs Allen or Omniman in the show but idk if the Robert Kirkman would make those changes.

Do Omni Man vs Conquest

Remember emperor Mark is the confirmed strongest character in the comics

Yeah it would've been one thing if Robert specifically said that Mark could beat a specific Superman like say My adventures with Superman but in general no.

Alan regeneration healing skills is like a saiyan 😁😆🤣🥃

0:40 when the sun-powered superhero doesn’t get hurt by the sun?

I just want to point out that Battle Beast casually - CASUALLY - one hands a sword that looks like it's the size of Guts' Dragonslayer.

Do a video on all comic characters that can survive the sun.

Allen maybe stringer but is he as fierce? Will he fight as dirty?

Considering that thragg implies that he could pretty much one shot allen + the fact that allen never tries to engage with thragg in a direct one v one i find it hard to believe that hes on thraggs level, if allen was equal to thragg i simply think he would have fought him, especially after weakening thragg with rognars. Id genuinely say pre mark v thragg mark is already about equal to allen by then, just a bit weaker than thragg as it is, and afterwards mark is undeniably stronger than everyone else without it being close, the issue with allens feats and strength is that other than a weaker nolan and mark earlier on he pretty much never fights anyone top tier except end of series mark who deals with him easily

Do MORBIUS vs DRACULA Untold

Yo @Key Issues Danco made the same video as you my boy. He posted the same thing 2 house after you posted

makes sense that is what allen was made for