Why biohacks don't work for nervous system healing.

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Recently flashy techniques, also known as ‘biohacks,’ have become increasingly popular for healing and regulating the nervous system (especially the vagus nerve). I’ll be speaking about the shortcomings of the ‘hack’ for nervous system healing, as well as why this can be dangerous (cause re-traumatization) for many.
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@briannalee174 Жыл бұрын

Omg! I went to a natural body of water a couple months ago and it was freezing cold, got in anyways because “it’s good for me”, I stopped breathing and almost had a panic attack 😅 now I know why. Jeeeez.

@klaramolitva 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video and for the other ones ❤ They're sooo helpful! This should be taught everywhere in society, so more people know about the nervous system and dysregulation.

@northstarearthstar Жыл бұрын

Ty Irene. It's so comforting to listen to you ❤️

@17hockeyhighlights92 4 ай бұрын

I am so thankful to have found your info. It makes so much sense and illuminates why I have not been able to heal from chronic pain, chronic fatigue, long covid, ADHD, digestive disorders and a myriad if ANS/ PNS/ CNS issues. ❤ #stuckinstress

@kimdalenberg25 Жыл бұрын

Had to look it up: «Why African Babies Don't Cry - An African Perspective, by Claire Niala» 😊 Irene, I never stop saying this; THANK YOU FOR YOU, your knowledge and for SHARING it 🙏❤️

@fionasmith5767 Жыл бұрын

Listening on replay, having just listened to Gabor Maté being interviewed on 2 different podcasts about his work, in the context of the release of his book (which I ordered earlier today)! I love how things line up so beautifully sometimes :)

@kellysuefitzharris7786 Жыл бұрын

This could be a paid masterclass. I always learn so much from your vids and have definitely binge-learned on your channel. Also took the 21 day course. But this video is chock full of value and education that is worth hundreds of dollars! Thank you Irene ♡♡♡

@Carroty_Peg Жыл бұрын

Irene, just got a copy of the book 'The Expectation Effect' and highly recommend!

@jessicabrantly8708 Жыл бұрын

Best video ever for explaining bio hacking 😊

@AA-xm9vz 3 ай бұрын

Very informative! Thank you Irene!😮

@Cici-x Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, I was told to try the shaking/tremor thing and when I did my tremors wouldn't stop all night (kept me awake) and I went into a massive depression and fatigue. The tremors haven't stopped completely and muscle fatigue has come up and now I'm being tested for MS and this has made so much sense- I mean the MS may still be there but the rest completely sounds like what you mention where the system was flooded. I grew up in chronic stress and abuse that I never knew how to release for context.

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

Hi CIci, Seth here with Team Lyon. So, sorry you had that experience. Even if they do say you have MS, that too can be addressed with this work. I hope you'll consider checking out Irene's online programs, they really can help!! irenelyon.com/new-here/

@Cici-x Жыл бұрын

@@IreneLyon Thank you Seth, I appreciate it :). I have been binge watching Irene's videos and will definitely be joining the 21 day program and join the next SBSM program when its available!

@bloooeyes3 Жыл бұрын

Does this work with neuropathy ie numb tight, burning and crampy legs and feet. I had a lot of childhood traumas ❤

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

@@bloooeyes3, there can be different causes for neuropathy. Sometimes this nervous system work does help, other times it may not as much. I will add that even when specific symptoms may not lessen or dissipate, the benefits of the work often help us to better handle and navigated physical pain and symptoms. - Jen from Team Lyon

@FreeDom-fv8wy 11 ай бұрын

@Cici-x how are you today?

@juliacooley713 Жыл бұрын

I shake at times and also told Prudence Memorial Hospital that I had a seizure when I was in seventh grade. Janet and Jerry are also from the Philippines who handle and are care takers of the home I live at.

@annabmoya6678 Ай бұрын

I think we want to have the quick fix because we feel so uncomfortable and don't have the capacity to be with the uncomfortable so we just want it to go away. I've noticed with myself that since I have more regulation I'm ok to not have something right away.

@gg-op9kc Жыл бұрын

I am listening to your videos for years and you lead me to Peter Levine, Bessel van der Kolk, Kathy Kain, Peter Rosenberg, Gabor Mate, and more whose books I listend trough on Audible, and it helped me a lot with helping my son process his early medical traumas but I am also full of traumas from early age and recently a medical trauma that I am trying to recover, but I do not really have the capacity to do the work on my own. I do feel like for me, I need a person with me to guide me trough this bc all this books and knowledge is just to much now and I can not use the knowledge. I know the basics and more but it is not enough...

@fionasmith5767 Жыл бұрын

Are you able to seek out a Somatic Experiencing therapist to work with locally or even online? This is the one of the primary practices Irene bases her work in. As Peter Levine says, trauma is healed in connection, so your sense, your intuition, that you need someone to guide you is a really good one.

@gg-op9kc Жыл бұрын

@@fionasmith5767 I had two sessions with one SE practicioner but Idk if she is as expirienced as Irene. I kind of trust Irene bc I can connect with what she is saying...but I don't think I am ready for SBSM bc it requires we do a lot work alone. Plus it is a big financial risk for me wich puts me in even more stress...I am kind of unsure as to what s the best rout to go...but I feel I could also learn a lot that will be hard to find anywhere else🤔 🙆🤔

@fionasmith5767 Жыл бұрын

@@gg-op9kc Yes - trust is absolutely fundamental in the process of healing trauma. I'm not a member of Irene's team, simply following her excellent work as a fellow SE practitioner, so I can't comment on SBSM. It may be that you want to find another practitioner who has more experience, but do also consider that building this relationship of trust takes time. Have you named your concerns to and with your therapist within the context of the session? Perhaps if you do that, and feel into what comes up for you in your body, guided by her, you'll get closer to establishing that vital sense of trust. I'm sure you'll find the right way forward - you've been guided this far. 🧡

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

@@gg-op9kc, Jen here from Team Lyon. I saw your comments and have a few related ideas to share with you. First, Somatic Experiencing Practitioners can have a relatively wide variety of training and skillsets and not all are trained in working with medical and/or early trauma. If you haven't yet done so, you might consider asking your practitioner (or another that you consider staring to work with) if they have training and experience in these areas. I also wanted to make sure you're familiar with Irene's 21 Day Nervous System Course. It's more of a starter course where SBSM is a deeper dive, and the "Tune Up" can be a great place to start to see how you respond to doing some work on your own, at your own pace. The cost is $297 USD and if you were to decide to join SBSM at some point in the future, what you pay for the Tune Up is applied towards the cost of SBSM. And as Fiona shared, Irene also has many great free resources too. So there are many options! I"ll link to the "Tune Up" in case you'd like to check it out. 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com

@dreamkaravan 5 ай бұрын

I felt very sad and angry when I learned that medical experts in 1950 years in france, used to encourage mothers not to breastfeed their babies (even of they were OK) and to let them cry during the night! 😥

@aliasgirl9 Жыл бұрын

So the likely reason I had a burnout, and months later, a fibro flare is from trying to rush things via chiro, vagus stim and acupuncture. I’ve even been wanting to and trying to figure out sauna blanket. Meanwhile I am full up with stored stress. I’d love very much to sign up for a small but debt is in the way. I do enjoy your vids though.

@juliacooley713 Жыл бұрын

I have been able to shift a lot today as I got my hair done and it was in a way counseling. I came out that I was schizoeffective bipolar type and in a way left with letting go with a lot of harassment that things that had been done. On June eighth I had a non medical transport there and back from Prudent Memorial Hospital and talked about a person I knew who I went to his funeral but really didn’t even know him named Chris Campbell. Then my hair stylist has a teenage son named Chris that works at the store next store. There’s been so much in my mind that seems to be about like you talked about the things that are working and not working but as I always try for self regulation the maintenance of my daily routine but many times can’t get out offight flight or freeze when it seems like people are trying to constantly trying to create feelings in my private parts. I’m single however I never want a relationship although I am straight and I in no way am looking to get married. I am zen and Morgan and enjoy your teaching.

@FreeDom-fv8wy 11 ай бұрын

Irene I used to work with people with Vocal Toning to give sound to their inner being. I also worked intuitively with sound from singing bowls etc to allow the participant to connect inwardly. I see that something like vocal toning can be used to express and perhaps this is building capacity but you could also use toning to "transcend" which ignores the quote unquote "lower" state and that heals nothing. Am i getting this right?

@IreneLyon 11 ай бұрын

@FreeDom-fv8wy, Jen here from Irene's Team. Generally speaking yes, many practices may be used in different ways - both to support presence and connection with oneself and also potentially to bypass and disconnect. I will add that even when practices support presence and connection, they won't necessary support growth in nervosa system capacity and regulation, or the completion of stored self-protective responses as this work can be nuanced at times.

@patricehardynz Жыл бұрын

If anyone is suffering from the consequences of Cold Therapy; naval cupping, moxa from a qualified TCM practitioner might be of benefit

@genevievebaril4746 Жыл бұрын

Hi Is neurofeedback a biohack if doing along with neurosomatic work? Since it increases neuroplasticity? What an hyperbaric/infra red…. Not in treatment perspective but do you consider them biohacks?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

genevieve Baril, Jen here from Team Lyon. In the context that Irene is using the term, yes, neurofeedback and infrared saunas might be considered biohacks. Keep in mind that not all biohacks are created equally, an some can be complementary to doing nervous system work. It can depend on the person, their unique nervous system, and their intention for engaging in the work. To speak to the approaches you mentioned, neurofeedback can be helpful for some people, others don't notice much change either way, and some find that it worsens their symptoms (based on what we hear from 21D and SBSM students). There are different types of neurofeedback which may have yield different results, and that's not our area of expertise here. If you are drawn to explore it, you might look for someone who is trauma informed (or ideally, trauma trained). An infrared sauna may support the body in healing, as may time in a hyperbaric chamber. And none of these approaches will yield the same benefits that doing the foundational work of growing nervous system regulation and capacity tends to offer over time. I'll share a link to one of Irene's blogs to give you a sense of some of the benefits associated with increased nervous system regulation. 9 Key Benefits we Experience When our Nervous System is Regulated - irenelyon.com/2018/09/30/9-benefits-nervoussystem-regulated/

@fionasmith5767 Жыл бұрын

Re the communities you speak of, another book to look at re. childcare in community is The Continuum Concept.

@AliBabaZumba Жыл бұрын

I need help. I went through divorce, 3 herniated discs in my neck flaring up, & having friends move my stuff to another state because wasn’t fit enough to do so… between the physical & emotional pain, I started having major panic attacks & anxiety multiple times a day that lead to overt & covert tremors or trembling. I had to take 3 baths a day in the beginning to calm down. I’m seeing multiple docs for my neck & trying to restart my life. Still in the divorce depression too. I have a remote job but that gives me anxiety too, & am now having trouble being home alone. I don’t know what to do. 😢

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

@AliBabaZumba, it sounds like you've been through quite a lot in recent times. It's good to hear that you had the support of friends to help you move. I'm glad too that you found Irene's resources. I hope you're finding some information here to help you understand what might be happening from a nervous system perspective and to plant seeds of hope, if small. I'll link to a few of Irene's free resources that you might check out. Given what you shared, you might also consider checking out Irene's 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up. It's a self-study course where you learn the basics related to nervous system learning and practice, and you also have the opportunity to learn from your peers and ask questions about your experience that are answered by trained nervous system practitioners. DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq9zpsWJuqmvnYE.html 4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/ 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com

@maryannribble3254 3 ай бұрын

Chia 1985 How do you “know “ that ? I was , my whole life, underfed and not allowed snacks when I was hungry - for way too long - maybe you ( the parent ) helped teach and reinforce food being used to substitute for another need - unknowingly …. ( not on purpose , I mean )

@kiutpi Жыл бұрын

Do you consider using technology like Heart Math to learn how to increase hr coherence and improve hear rate variability and Technology such as NuCalm bio hacks?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

kiupti, Jen here from Team Lyon. In short, yes, they would be considered biohacks from this perspective but that doesn't mean that they can't have some value and be complementary to this nervous system work. For example, a HeartMath device may help you to learn about when you are in coherence, and may help you to grow access to feelings of connection. This is not the same as taking growing foundational nervous system regulation and capacity, and it can be complementary to doing so.

@briannalee174 Жыл бұрын

Is this work appropriate for dp/dr?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

Bri Annalee, Jen here from Team Lyon. Yes, for sure. In this work, DP/DR tends to be connected to being in freeze/conservation physiology. I'll share a related resource of Irene's in case you'd like to learn more. What cause dissociation and what it takes to heal - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7Z9mLCptJ7dqmw.html

@juliacooley713 Жыл бұрын

I got a move in date for a different board in care still here in Santa Rosa on Thursday the 22nd of September, 2022. Meanwhile to connect with the environment to me is like rebuilding schedule but when I pause, connect to my body there’s so much I want to express and learn. There was a near bus accident and needed a somatic practitioner instead I asked Jerry if he could touch me. On three different instances he touched my private parts. I smoke cigars as a kind of ritual but the neighbors Steve and Tina who are neighbors from the smoking area outback have dog poo in there yard and are growing Marijuana. It’s like there’s no fresh air. I have a roommate now from spending almost a year here in a room by myself. Then one of my roommates Holly died and another awoled but now my new case manager was also the case manager of Holly. I am French, English, Sweatish and Indian and also have known a different Holly from the city of Sonoma where I lived for age 2-18. I was born in San Francisco and have lived in Santa Rosa over twenty years.

@patriciajones3136 Жыл бұрын

Can children be helped with healing from past trauma?

@skynet4496 Жыл бұрын

Yes... Try the 21 day course when it's on sale and you can teach kids the techniques

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

Patrica Jones, Jen here from Team Lyon. Yes, children can heal from trauma. A great place to start is by growing your own nervous system regulation as when it do, it ripples out to our kids and the others in our lives.

@patriciajones3136 Жыл бұрын

Are young children able to heal from trauma?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

Patricia Jones, Jen here from Team Lyon. Yes, they are able to real from trauma when explored to the right conditions, one of the most important being time with regulated caregivers. (FYI I just replied to a similar question you asked in the comments under video.)

@Michael-dp2uj Жыл бұрын

Could you please add time stamps?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

Michael, I'll pass your request along to the team. - Jen from Team Lyon

@Btouhy1 Жыл бұрын

Yo can do it

@chia9851 5 ай бұрын

Minute 47:01 , when You Say the kid is probably hungry....sometimes they are not and they just want to draw attention. Parents can't let their kids manipulate them...boundaries are necessary

@robster7012 Жыл бұрын

Do you think Brain retraining is a hack?

@MinnaMrt2958 Жыл бұрын

I think she says her work is about working with all of the nervous system, not just the brain. And that the brain is the end organ (of the n.s.).

@beckym9930 Жыл бұрын

Can you say bio hacks don’t work alone, but are a good addition…maybe a good first step?

@IreneLyon Жыл бұрын

HI Becky M, Jen here from Team Lyon. I really depends, on both the "hack" and on the someone's personal history and unique nervous system. Sometimes they can be a helpful complement to taking steps to grow nervous system regulation, other times they can be reinforce existing survival patterns, be overstimulating and/or even destabilizing, and sometimes they may not have much of an impact.

@niebieskimotyl3308 Жыл бұрын

I've almost died from going to cold water after sauna, so now I know why,even though I don't have any physical condition 😉 The worst part is, the person is doing "retreats" and all kinds of "healing" stuff, but didn't notice what was going on with me, left me alone lying down outside naked in winter. At the moment I felt very good, having adrenaline rushing through my body, but I was in shock and frozen for months after that experience. I recently reminded myself about being left in cold as a baby, I grew up in cold house, so that was probably the cause of my strong reaction to cold, maybe also I was bathed in cold water. My point is, strong experiences may be very dangerous. And if I spoke to this person about the situation (hippie and happy young man), he'd probably say "well you're alive so what's the problem?". On top of that, his son died just 2 weeks after my visit there. There's a lot going on, with substances and sex, which are pictured as healing, which for deeply traumatised people it may be dangerous.

@FreeDom-fv8wy 11 ай бұрын

@niebieskimotyl3308 wow this sounds very unconscious and abusive. What/where is it?

@S1ckest Жыл бұрын

5-MeO-DMT works.

@satiatedghost9216 Жыл бұрын

36:26

@user-sd9uv9kr8q 4 ай бұрын

I stopped at the middle east. No lol.

@user-em3np4vr8c 8 ай бұрын

I can't even listen to Joe Dispenza, he turns me off, it just sounds like gobbledegook!😂😂😂😂

@Miss-Hellcat666 6 ай бұрын

He seems very sensationalistic to me, I struggle to take it seriously😅

@SamiMusic4you 5 ай бұрын

I listen to all your videos and you keep repeating the same over and over but you never talk about how to heal. If you truly want to help people at least give educational training. You make business out of people suffering

@IreneLyon 5 ай бұрын

Hello, Sophia with Team Lyon here. Here is some training and exercises that are completely free of charge. irenelyon.com/free-resources/ Irene's free resources are a great way to start working on your nervous system healing. I hope this helps clarify things.