the problem with that statement is that they do the r&d themselves it's not like they bought a Spot and just made a knockoff, they engineered these on their own sure they look the same, but that's because the thing they're basing them on is the same

Aech Dee not even comparable, BD probably spent hundreds of millions more than this relatively unknown Chinese company. Obviously it’s not like anyone can just buy one and copy it, they will need an efficient team and structure, but if you look them up, it all points to just basic intelectual property being stolen/copied at a simpler level

Sloth Armstrong yeah , clearly has been working for chinese companies, since most big tech companies have factories there too they also have ease of production when copying stuff. It doesn’t usually lead to long lasting and stable market, but the cheaper alternatives do have a huge demand to fulfill

Aech Dee lmao what are you talking about? it’s china....of course they just took spot and reversed engineered it 😂 just like everything else in china it’s a stolen design

@@TheAechBomb yeah whatever. 100% stolen IP

It actually needs skills and technology to do a good reverse engineering and clone. Japan did that, US did that by adopting German tech after WW2... So the cycle of life Iguess

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The Philadelphia company too will be on point to help with also making those copies. So it's closer to home cuz by then, China and US would have banned each other to oblivion 🤣

@@pitot1988 they dont reverse engineer they copy everything and make some adjustment. They look the same they cant change its look because of how the program works they just dont look the same but move the same too

Ever had of something called patents.. Unitree is far more manuvarable the don't have the same gates.. Boston is just another hyped up company with the luxury of being American

Uh

Chinese companies are good at copying.. 🤔

@@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 ever [had] of theft? You edited your comment and still you missed that.

@@timtunnel1996 copying is the first step to innovation

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dog: fired！😂😂😂

Haaaaaa....

Throw a rug around it and get it to bark to keep potential bugulars away from your house. 😂

But those sniffing nose are hard to replace tho.

Chinese software engineers are nothing to sneeze at. They have very talented people. To discount them is foolish. And dangerous.

Lance Monotone Kindly point out the part of my comment where I discounted Chinese software engineers.

Lance Monotone I agree talented at stealing cause you still need talent for that 😂

@@gameintheglitch1860 The red-pilled can believe whatever conspiracy they want; it doesn't change the facts out here in the real world. In the end, it doesn't matter how the Chinese got ahead of us. I have read that their coders are every bit as good as ours, others say they must have stolen their knowledge because American brains are exceptional against all evidence to the contrary. Shrug. The only thing that matters is that they have it and know what to do with it.

@@rusmiller816 I said nothing about Chinese engineers. It's obvious that the A1 is a blatant ripoff of Spot. A reasonable quality ripoff by the looks of it, but a ripoff nonetheless. Regarding the featureset/completeness of each product, all you have to do is visit each company's respective website and read the documentation. Spot is an industrial product with extensive documentation, the A1 doesn't even have a user manual. A cool toy, but Unitree has a long way to go before they can be considered a serious player in the robotics research space.

Or as a replacement for a wheelchair.

I’d like to see what a real dog thinks of it?

See James Bruton's channel.

China will probably have this in a year or two. look at what happened to segway, they went from $3,000 items, down to $300 after China took them over.

@@alphagt62 go watch the unbox therapy video. the dog started freaking out lol

Yes you wouldn’t want a COE who built or resurrected multiple multiple billion dollars corporations. Yes continue to loose money until your patrons cut you off and you go bankrupt.

@@matthewhuszarik4173 you didn't seem to get the point, but i'm not exactly surprised by that fact...

@@Darusdei What IS the point?

Ahhh yes Steve jobs the guy who took a salary of 1 dollar just to make the company grow will ruin the company.........nice

@@triptabhagoria7279 $1 *to avoid tax :)

Because that's not a good thing to do

@@m0nk3yman53 yes, a moral obligation towards fair business practices will surely stop companies from partaking in immoral acts that could get them a greater level of profit and influence.

because there's no one to copy from

Sarcasm people, the chinese are doing what they do best, finding a product that already works and making poor quality versions of it.

stealing as usual

LOL, I guess Ghost Robotics are also thieves eh

Buy the original, reverse engineer it, sell it cheaper. But of course with shitty quality.

Talking about quality is a subjective point. If 90% of the world population only can afford cheaper technology then that's how business works. As a businessman, I will chase 90% of buying capability than 10%. Not everyone can buy expensive thing while we can get it at a lower price without compromising the quality too much. For example, if I could buy 10 dollar product which is durability can be up to 1 year why should I buy 100 dollar product for 3 years durability. Don't forget that tech evolving and improving very fast if I spend 100 dollars for 1 product after a year, the technology I have might be not that relevant as what as I got a year before. So should I missed out the new revolution of enhanced product for another year or spending another 100 dollars for the new one. The smartphone is a classic example.

@@srykextraodinairecreation9962 you mean "theft" of thechnology. China never innovates, they steal and make cheap.

You mean 4? 5 was broken probably 300 years ago

Albert Weedstein The Thug Genius you got me! Roger Bannister 3:59.4 May 6, 1954.

@@billrumbley now athletes dont have to innovate, shoe companies do it for them.

effexon LOL. Talent + tools + practice + desire + resources.

@@effexon how do you innovate? You just fucking train hard. Modern athletes train no less harder than older athletes

You might think so now but just wait until they start to self-replicate. It seems T800 is not so far away after all ...

Unless they jump from S10 to S20 like some smart phones :o

Pilipino ka?

Joe

@@KoolAids-vj1ll mama?

Do it. What's stopping you ?

That what I was thinking 😂😂

Naw let it B. Goodenough :)

@Vibrant JAPAN dude- great content man- You've sold me

Affordable robots to replace you in your job, thats going to be so great for ya!

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Are they even the same league? Is the unitree robot as functional as spot?

Probably yeah, and for sure in their own production and factories.

Commercials aint problem shiy Boston dynamics is well known and famous, they need to cut down costs and target a market

@@drained1177 so far they have a market and are making big money selling these expensively. While companies will buy them no point making it cheaper to appeal to the more common public

@@jaidenoliver7165 Big screen 4k TVs are EXPENSIVE but are selling like hotcakes! There are a LOT of RICH people in the world!

pretty sure BD's main target are contracts. And not necessarily the SPOT model, but their programming. Sure they can sell many SPOT's at $75,000 each, but the real money is either in mass market where they can sell metric more than what SPOT is selling at a massive volume or government/corperate contracts that go into tens or hundreds of millions.

Just wait until a gun equiped robot dog points a gun at yah lol

@Vibrant JAPAN I'm subbing

He knows - "... and other ...ah... public safety entities."

@Vibrant JAPAN Fuck it, I'll subscrie too! Succeed, damn it!

My university has a robot Nina warrior course. Not legged robots though

Check out robomaster competition

Atlas could do it today.

Stolen it you mean

@@HazyHerbivore Can't steal something that was never ours, Australia fumbled the ball and everyone else picked it up.

Uh no a hollywood actress made wifi that only thing that australian scientist did was transform it and make it better plus this isnt the same since the u.s is the tech hub

By the same token France invented the internet (minitel). Bet you didn't know that

Why is there a need to monopolize anything you invent? All of science and computing is the collective effort of thousands of amazingly clever people. Its laying the first stone so others can build a pyramid. I dont think Friedman and the physicists of the 20th century expanding on the theory of relativity mean Einstein dropped the ball, even if Friedman proved Einstein wrong about a static universe. Claiming sole ownership of something only matters if you want to patent it and make money, its useless in terms of pushing humanity forwards. Inventing something that inspires others to work on it is not embarrassing.

Facts. The open source stuff seems great though.

Yeah. Many people that aren’t familiar with control theory often over look how difficult it is tune control algorithms .

@@jesuseyez619 😂The challenge that will hit Engineers in this century will be so great I bet that books will be written about it in the next.

Boston Dynamics has already open sourced its code on many stuff. They already did the hard work.

@@l0_0l45 🤔Welp Lemme dig my fingers into some of the code.

U own tesla stock

and more dense, we truly live in a wonderful era

actually bateries had allmost reached their max in energy density allready...maybee they could get 15%(if that!) more for the same volume , but thats it...

@@Lipi19821 there will always be more solutions, as you know numbers are infinite

@@HoloScope enyoj that 1 more milimeter of range 5 years latter...ant then 0,01 mm in next 5...

Yes

How many units are they producing to sell at $70k is the real question? Maybe it could be more cost effective at their scale?

Yeah they would need to make it more expensive just to cover his salary.

@Sergio Balaguera Sush, stop worshiping a dead man.

Would need a massive engineering effort to keep the regolith from destroying it's components. Every flake of it is like a shard of glass. Astronaut's suits were ruined by it.

You're not wrong.

@@Scott_C Why not have wheels on legs that can adjust its height with most of the construction equipment on a robotic arm on the back. The hopping motion of the dog will kick up more moon dust than a slow moving rover. For the wheels can be directly driven with a motor inside the hub.If the weight is too heavy for the motor-in-wheel design, then a motor in the arm connected to a drive shaft directly that goes down to a small differential that can slide up and down and act in harmony with a suspension made of some springy composite material can work too, and possibly the latter design would be easier to make than the prior if you include seals at each component that moves against each other and what separates the components from the inside to the outside world just like many car components .

@@31bank wheeled robot would make sense. However, take a minute to go research the wheels used on the Moon Buggy NASA made for the Apollo Missions. That may help you understand what you're suggesting.

They'd only last mechanically a few days. They likely wouldn't work on the lunar surface at all due to cosmic particle bombardment. Space hardware needs to be rad hardened.

Yes, Spot is not meant for the average consumer but instead focused on Industrial and probably military applications. And Spot probably had more High quality parts and functions. Its not only about the money.

Companies that are not profitable go out of business and in the private sector profits are needed in order to push the boundaries! Only government can push the boundaries without making a profit because they have tax slaves like you and me!

you potato, what drives progress and development IS PROFITABILITY! No one works for free. Humankind ALWAYS developed new technology, BETTER technology beause of PROFIT. People invent stuff to do things better, faster and CHEAPER so that they will PROFIT off the time saved by using new tech, you are totally ignorant about what technology is. Without the PROFIT INCENTIVE you have stagnant societies like tribals societies or communists. Have you even wondered why North Korea is stuck in the 1960? Because there's no PROFIT INCENTIVE so no one uses better technology or tries to improve things. Why would they? They don't get paid more...so why bother taking years inventing new stuff?

You’re calling someone a potato while also making wildly stupid claims. R&D for tech is expensive, and if you want to innovate, you’re going to need to pay expensive specialists (roboticists, engineers, electricians, software devs) to play around with technologies-unprofitably- and sort out their potential/applications. For ex, Hyundai owns a controlling stake in Boston Dynamics. it’s not profitable for them now, but they have many other sources of profit that can offset their losses here. Because the technology they’re funding could have real utility in the future, they’re hoping their bet pays off. Also, North Korea has been subject to strict sanctions from the western superpowers for over half a century, and is basically cut off from the rest of the world economy. Tourism, immigration, new knowledge and strong international partnerships? Forget about it. This seems to be generally why they struggle. Communist social/political structure can be used with free market characteristics, as is the case with China, which does not consider itself truly capitalist. And they’ve progressed quite quickly in very little time. You’re not smart

@@bc5588 you double potato, you invest into companies because you hope for future gains. When people invest in Boston dynamic they expect it to become profitable in the future.. Do you seriously think the opposite its true??? China is NOT communist lol North Korea is NOT poor because of sanctions. Sanctions are only on guns, you double potato. That's the excuse dictator use to quell the protests. "no guys it's totally not my fault why u have to eat grass, it's the evil US banning us from having nuclear missiles, if only we had them you could be eating better" You realized the nonsense you write? No one is stopping tourism or immigration in NK. You can buy a ticket and go there.. Why don't you? Answer me.

Military and police. Thats who BD are aiming for.

A big push for robotic development was the nuclear disaster in Japan.

A robotic cop in pursuit of an outlaw?

@@michaelpettersson4919 a ROBOCOP

What do you mean when you say commercial

@@sr_aron What he means is that they have the fanbase to go into the consumer market.

Jumped on the back of the prototype honda D18 and escaped human capture to start the robotic rebellion from a inhospitable wasteland near fukushima power plant.

Robotics that imitate basic human structure/movements/coexistence don't seem as commercially viable as something more specialized, like a rescue bot or something.

@@gluttonousmaximus9048 is commercially viable unless is too expensive. Most basic jobs for humans require basics set of motions. And the think is basic human motions, like leg movements, are far more flexible then whelled motion. And besides huge costs, far bigger then todays robots, ASIMO had problems performing basic motions and was very slow for most of them. You are making a dumb comparisson.

Was that ever supposed to be a product?

US acquire them....

They want YOU to become their Steve Jobs

Basically. Who cares if the Chinese or other parties steal the tech, they won't innovate on it because thats not what they care about. They just want to profit off it as long as possible until it becomes outdated and they have to buy another to steal a new design. Well that and generating tons of e waste with products that go straight from the production line to the landfill.

@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , China is filing more patents than any other nation actually.

@@HR-yd5ib yeah that'll happen when you have a billion people with the potential to file them. Look I'm not saying the Chinese are bereft of creativity or other such racist nonsense, but to pretend they don't steal designs and ignore patants and copyright law is pretty foolish.

@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , hence my suggestion to change the title of this video!

yeah, it is not like Chinese ever beat US in anything, like, i dunno 5G...

😂🤣😂 Yep. 😂🤣😂

That's going to happen watch the porn industry...! If it's going to happen they are the ones to do it.

How could it be any other way in 'murica? (? xD

@@barriewright2857 Someone once told me, a new technology has matured as soon as the Porne industry uses it in a substantial way.

To make a robot that can walk is easy if compared to a robot that can give you hugs and comfort. Its not like anyone wants to fuck a hung of metal, what we all seek is deeper and way more complex interaction. So i have my doubt about sex robots, and if we ever make a robot cable of feeling human enough to imitate love. we gonna run into the AI problem of the singularity. In fact I feel pretty secure in saying its stupid dream that'll never come true, because sex is more than putting stuff in holes. An here is why: Without a truly human feeling brain, its gonna be be huge turn off for most sane people, and with a human feeling brain you no longer have a robot but a human. Because we only want the perfect human, we all know how to spot a fake human, it's in our instincts. so anything less will hit right in the uncanny valley and be a huge turnoff. I do not see how you gonna make a perfect copy of human, that somehow is not a human. All that said, people are probably in the end fine with paying high cash for fake sex, it will mostly only be for men as the robots won't be much more than a glorified sexy toy.

There's considerable functionality difference.

For the good of mankind, imagine buying one of these to help your grandparents haul their weekly groceries for them because this relentlessness of chinese competiton

@@youngz13o What village do you live in ? , they just have Uber drop it off on the front porch out in the sticks ? A drone will do it , having the dog carry it ? Not that feasible

@@youngz13o for the good of mankind ? You do realize that one of the reasons why Chinese products are cheap is because of Chinese labor. So witch mankind are you talking about. Because it's definitely not these working in the factory.

Have you any idea how overpriced an iphone is?I live in india...For the price of a brand new iphone i could buy a New 100-200cc motocycle.Its ridiculous.Let me give you another example..Hv you heard of the interceptor from re?its probably the cheapest 650cc bike in the states..but in india it costs half of that😂😂😂

Toms River sorry but you are part of the crowd that lives in a bubble. Do you know who are the 800 million people that were lifted out of poverty? It was the people that worked in the factories

How much of that chinese knock off do you think they obtained directly from BD? (official or not-so)

You can't tell just from the looks. BD could use for copyright or design patents if people could confuse the two products, but no telling what is copied and what just basically works because form follows function.

It looks as though they bought one and reverse engineered it, they are far too similar. They could have at least changed the aesthetics a bit.

Its the feeling you get when you go on Alibaba and see your design copied , And its only half price , China passes the "slavings" on to you ! I ended up just "Leaking" the designs I knew would fail , Looked good on paper , prototype showed numerous core problems Let them waste there time and resources

Chinese 🤣🤣

I like the analog but I do not think that is Boston dynamics Job. With PCs users Flunder usecases themselves Spot. Many users became experts and published Software, way more than a Single manufacturer alone ever could... Given enough time and granted that the spot Plattform is open for this I see a lot of Potential in these things. But remember the days when only 400 PCs have been Sold... there is still along way to go, such communitys usually Take time to grow. Spot is a really gute step though, as atlas will be and I guess one that will o ly really be understood in a faraway, future, what a great time to live in and watched this development

is it? spot doesn't have much intelligence on its own, you have to program it to do tasks, very far from a siri automated helper.

@@churblefurbles siri spies on you

Churble Furbles so what’s your point? Spot does have learning abilities, it can map the area it walks, and adapt. As well as having many ways to expand its sensors and functionality. It’s primarily designed to function in industry, not an expensive toy. Not forgetting ALL devices require a level of programming since true AI isn’t here. It’s a matter of selecting the tool that fits the purpose.

@@rodd1000 shhh don't tell the idiot he's an idiot

Didnt he mention that Boston Dynamics are still big step ahead technologically, his argument is that without a business model it is unlikely to stay that way for long.

actually Unitree launched their product to customers a few months before Boston Dynamics did. Also there are about 100 different quadrapeds which all look the same. This isn't cutting edge. It was announced to the world like 10 years ago, which is just after the 1st iphone. Now every phone in the world almost looks the same. You can learn to build them yourself online.

AGREED.....

@@arthurzettel6618 dude I saw your reply but totally forgot the context. Please elucidate..;)

Oh I saw the title, it rings a bell. Chinese copying. What do you think about it

They obviously stole the technology. China do it all the time.

LOL, yes. Personally, I waited to get my first smartphone until they came down to $5K.

@@AlecMuller wait what? Smartphones for 5k ?!

It’s similar to drone photography/ surveying, only it’s in it’s own specialised role. If your doing maintenance jobs in buildings, vents or tunnels, these small drones are perfect for the task of fitting into small or hazardous spaces. From a business standpoint if this makes a $60,000p.a worker 20% more efficient, you will have already turned a profit on the investment within the first year.

@@kubajackiewicz2 I had to read that again

A $10K party novelty gets old really fast.

they would 400 percent shit themselves or pass out lmao

Yeah communism is too restrictive for inventive creatively. So they copy stuff

if you don't think musk is heavily and secretely funded by the gov't you need to lay off the meth.

So can Spot... And Spot carries 14 kilo...

J J yeah just skip all the other amurican companies doing the same thing and blame the chinese company, real class.

Winnie the pool

@@missyxixi Hey, just show us one of those "other companies" claiming to have "developed" it and we'll laugh at them too.

@@missyxixi there are no other companies, this is literally the iron man meme where Ton Stark shows how behind all the other countries are, they literally stole the idea and built a toy that wont do what it was made for

I don't think it's for direct combat

Just think of how much fun they would have with their robots on the Moon or Mars! Imagine the acrobatics they could do!

Good idea! He is currently using at least one Spot at his Boca Chica Spacex manufacturing and testing facility.

> The only man on earth to establish a space ship production line. Just Factorio

I’m sure Elon will have 🤖 on Mars building base camp etc

No need for ELON in this case. ATLAS should just learn to assemble itself.

Everyone gangsta till one of the bots asks for a Plasma Rifle in 40 watt range

Clearly a repairman

Repairman and your robot overlords will let you live. 😄

any competition in the tech world would only make the market better and better in terms of price, quality, and value for customers

We need pressure on innovation not price. Price pressure means R&D becomes too expensive and innovators cannot enter the market, so you end up with a race-to-the-bottom with everyone selling the same cost-cut-to-the-bone design.

@@panduadikara9078 any competition in any time of market is good Hell, even in an individual level, competence can be good

Actually it was after Steve Jobs died the Apple started using their name to overprice their products.

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Good one and so true.

Proof?

Boston published their research eg www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Marc-Raibert-2083226138

@@woodypigeon thats what soviets/chineese always did. The copied a design and either improved it slightly or made it worse due no quality control... But its still copying either way

@@pottasium7117 So would the world (other than Germany) please stop making cars which are all copies of the original design made by Carl Benz.

Good. Then _you_ make one. Easy-peasy, no?

@@Kah7654 implying that major improvements on old shit and copying (with downgrading or slight changes to the design ) is one and the same

@@bazoo513 give me as big of a budget as those companies have and just as many personel and sure, even a monkey could lead a group of engineers with big budget without resorting to espionage

Boston Dynamics owned by Softbank. Softbank has Share in Tesla. Softbank owned Oneweb ( now bankrupt) Oneweb is similar service like Starlink of SpaceX , bt forced to shutdown.

@@hasnat9545 Also, Boston Dynamics was owned by Google until they decided not to get into the military grip trifactor in 2016. It was then for sale quite some time and as far as I know, Elon Musk gave it a pass.

@@marcus_w0 yep, really it's not sustainable for a long time

Lucky innovators and techie people like goodenough isn’t business-minded.. else we won’t hv Steve jobs ‘s apple

I'll hunt one of those!!

You wouldn't be able to move fast enough to aim and shoot one if it's a military version, which it would see you first before you even new it was their, Skynet is coming .

It wouldn't have been able to hold the beer though

The 10k one is just ripping bostons hardware. Bostons mostly sells software. Bostons robot is in every way superior

I'm not a great steve jobs fan, but credit where it's due, he was fantastic at marketing, presentation and business strategy (why else would people buy mac books? Their specs are sub par at their price point), Linus had a completely different ethos, it's proprietary vs open source, two different goals.

@@longleaf0doesnt change what he contributed, which is in reality not too much. Sure he was able to market his company's products well but other than the early innovations in Personal Computers and the iPhone both of which were created mostly by others with him focusing on marketability he didnt do much himself. He is well known due to being the face of the company for so long. He also set the standard within apple of playing it safe over adopting innovations. It's one reason why Wozniak left, Jobs wanted to mass produce and sell a product while Wozniak wanted to explore what could be possible with personal computers. The first apple computer designed by Wozniak had a large role in bringing bringing programmable computers into peoples homes. Without that innovation Jobs could've just as well have been marketing pocket calculators made with smooth aluminum like today's macbooks. He might've done a good job at it but it would just be marketing. Surely there has to be a balance between innovation and consistent reliable products but apple has always had a problem with innovation with a few major exceptions like the apple 2 and iphone but otherwise only gradual improvements and late adoption of new technologies. The locking down of what many people now refer to as the apple ecosystem is also anti consumer in my honest opinion and it was present to a degree long before modern apple. It was all an effort to make sales as high as possible for all their products. It made them money and possibly jump started personal computer usage but not much else. I am just grateful we have open source operating systems and alternatives to apple hardware because if they truly monopolized the smartphone market as Jobs intended by suing android os competition and the computer hardware market we'd probably be pretty far back relative to where we are today. Personally to me he was an aggressive businessman that did help create some huge markets but was anti consumer and anti competitor in a bad way. Instead of beating the competition several times apple opted to try to shut it down and I am happy they failed. I value freedom of all types including freedom to use your hardware however you like since it is your property and not a subscription service.