Thank you buddy, really appreciate that...Glad that you guys are enjoying me adding this more discussion focused videos...Thanks for watching 🙌

Nice man, congrats on the new GTR-X... I hear you re relative cost point of GTR-X vs GTX Ltd but they are completely different hulls which is what my video was mainly focusing on. The GTX Ltd runs an ST3 hull which is a much more compliant hull vs the Polytec 2 hull on the GTR-X, as such the GTR-X should be a lot more playful. Worth noting the GTR-X has the largest front bin out of the RXT, GTX and GTR-X I'm sure. But yes other features like speakers etc the Ltd is more geared towards this as its the Ltd model... The GTR-X is more sporty with the race handlebars etc. Thanks for sharing and watching 🙌

Thank you dude, really appreciate you watching as always 🙌

Totally agree mate... Can't comment on new gen Yam stuff but as for Seadoo...The ST3 and T3 hull are insane handing hulls that deliver point and shot cornering, but as you say they lack the fun factor that the polytec 2 provides... For me, I still believe the power would be better in a smaller hull, as it would then be true playfulness, but as it stands, a GTR X is close to true modern day 70mph performance in a relatively playful hull... The other thing I forgot to mention was, I would also say the polytec in real world usage is way more durable than gelcoat in terms of scratch resistant... I know the bond line has been a point of contention with the top deck being gel and the bottom being polytec, but only time will tell how the 300 does in the new GTRX. Thanks for watching dude.

Thanks Steve... I must be honest as I'm getting impatient with waiting for a faster Spark X, I have given close attention to the Yamaha Jet Blaster as know that can be re-tuned to do 55-57mph... I love the one from a few years ago in the blue and yellow... that said I do prefer Seadoo product styling (Old Spark that is) Thanks for watching mate ✌

Thanks dude. So yeh my plan as I do every year is to get a demo on the new RXPX 325 and also the GTRX 300... my issue historically with the RXP T3 hull is mainly that for me and my style of riding, I love a ski thats loose and will easily let the back end go... The RXP IMO is an insane new gen race machine, but not an overly fun recreational ski... Also hoping to get out way more this year and bring you guys more content... Thanks for watching as always dude ✌

Honestly dude reading your comment I couldn't agree more with your sentiment. You are bang on! I always get thrown at me 'if you want more speed you should buy an RXP or RXTX' etc but these people genuinely don't get my point around wanting to maintain playfulness in your ride, and me preferencing playfulness over rider compliance. I ride 2 strokes not just because they are 2 stroke but because the 90s and that era prioritised connection with the water and rider skill... Fast forward 30 years and honestly when I ride the ST3 or T3 hulls on the high performance crafts, I feel disconnected with the water and feel at times like I'm not tested as a rider... don't get me wrong they're incredible crafts and eat up the chop and corner on rails, but I want my hull to be loose and me make the difference if that makes sense. The reason like you say the GTR could be great is it runs the polytec 2 GTI hull which lets go and spins in the spirit of the lighter crafts... for sure its still too big and in an ideal world they would make a faster spark vs suggesting the GTRX as the performance playful craft, but I also hear your point around kids and also storage etc on the GTRX... which fair play doing 40 miles on a 3up (I assume). The only thing I'm not crazy on is the GTRX is abit boring looking in the grey, I do love the red details but for me its 'safe' I love the look of the all red new 325 RXP... I just know I would hate the compliance of the T3 hull not spinning like my spark/XP etc, even if the 325 will give me 75+ Thanks for watching dude 🙌

Trip was on the 2up spark 😂. 3 year old in front holding his own little handle bar extensions and 8 year old behind holding me. We were out again at the weekend for this first time this season and we can still get away with it this summer - all felt safe and stable but next year I’ll need to get a different ski or convert the 2up to a 3up. I’ve seen some reports saying the GTi hull is better in rough water than the ST3. That would appeal as I ride 100% ocean and the Spark quickly becomes a liability if you have any passengers on board. At the other end of the spectrum it’s a riot in rough seas on your own launching off waves 😂

Nice man congrats...hope these live up to my expectation. Thanks for watching 🙌

All really good points dude 🙌For me the main issue with the 230 is it only gets 60mph but having to run a super charger to get it, thats not a good trade off...If I'm dealing with super charger maintenance I want 70mph...That said in the past having tested T3 and ST3 hulls they're not loose enough for me, hence why this new GTRX grabs my attention... Only time will tell how this ski does... FYI here in the UK the GTRX 300 is around £20,000 and the Spark Trixx is like £13,000... I do agree though in terms of cost points of skis who recreationally ride, who is wanting to spend 30k for a performance T3... even 20k IMO is too much... In terms of smiles per ££$$, an old 2 stroke wins hands down... I have skis in the garage that cost me a fraction and if they don't always get rode no problem, not sure how anyone is rationalising a 30k ski sat in the garage in the UK and not get rode for weeks/months at a time, which is what normally happens with our climate. Thanks for watching 👌🙌

@@classicjetskis yes there are skis at every budget, but the performance or touring skis are becoming ridiculously out of reach too many enthusiasts. There are a lot of costs associated with any recreational product but not everyone has that kind of budget. Jet skiing used to be cheap once the dust settled from the 2 stroke/4 stoke change over until I think last summer, yes people have choices to purchase new or used but like all used products there are underlining issues that most people don’t want to deal with financially and yes you’re right about the 2 strokes. I’m not sure where this is all going because the industry has had many other brands remove themselves from the PWC market due to profitability and there’s only 3 now since Honda pulled the pin…

Yeh I hear you dude, it is a shame that a hobby I always associated with affordable fun, now feels more geared towards a more affluent demographic that see PWC as disposable toys. IMO PWC's don’t need to be as sophisticated as they have become...I think Seadoo have nailed the formula many years ago, so where do they go from here tbf but small tweaks...If you look at the 325 models, it’s now become more and more about speed vs overall recreational fun, most riders don’t need more power from the HPC, they need for enjoyment, I can guarantee I’m having more fun on my smaller crafts that the bigger skis. IMO most people buying 325 will be racers that can actually extract the true performance of the craft. Prices logically have to stabilise at some point but who knows...I’m just glad I have 2 strokes in the garage. Thanks again for watching

I love the GP and sure at some stage will get my hands on one... This video in general, isn't really about finding an old gen that has 170...I'm more than happy with my old gen performances. This video is about new gen offerings and how this new GTRX 300 will give more playful characteristics and 300hp out the box...what you have to think is buying an old GP 2 stroke doesn't solve my point around having a work horse ski... IMO a GP isn't massively dissimilar engine wise, to my Wave Raider 1100 which is a very quick ski, but would I ride it every weekend? No because it would be at 100 hours before I knew it and the longevity wouldn't be there...My love affair with old 2 strokes in the pristine beauty of them, hence having so many to rotate and keep them clean. A new gen spark will do 500 hours easy without a rebuild, hence adding one to my line up to give me a work horse, that said I need a quicker new gen playful ski, as the spark needs more top end. Thanks for watching dude 🙌

Ok so great question, bolt on Mods such as uprated intake gate etc I don't think are going to effect things that much in terms of reliability, but as for engine related mods, any increase in performance will have an effect on the overall engine balance thus reliability, that said there are what I would call lite mods and then more hard core mods. I'm not against modding but its always important to look into the related negative effects, for when things could go wrong, as most people that mod never like to talk honestly about things going wrong... I see guys that mod the old stuff and then complain about the engine when in reality they have modded a stock engine that from factory was balanced for longevity, but as soon as its modded, will reduce longevity... the 951cc engine is a great example of this on the 4th gen XP. A stock 951 was great at 130hp but a modded one never lasted long! Thanks for watching 👌

@@classicjetskis is there anything to add to stay in the best of conditions? thank you for the feedback I appreciate that and love the content.

What I would say if you want to maintain longevity of craft, then just stick to bolt on mods, such as uprated sponsons, intake gates, impellers and then on the engine side, a retune thats not pushing the craft stupidly beyond its capability's will be fine. But IMO stock is just the best route and if you're truly not happy with the performance of your craft, then go to the next model up the tier... For example I 1000% want my spark to be faster and there are things for sure I could do, but I know in doing so it will effect the balance in one shape or form, so if I want faster I ride my stock 951 GSX or XP... the same is true with all PWCs... IMO if you want faster than 300hp GTR then you need to look at the new 325s, but IMO a stock 300 will hit 70mph so what do you really need to mod? Thanks for watching

Thanks for the insight but do have to politely disagree... a good friend I ride with has the 230 and from what he has said its a 60-62mph ski... If you look at the specs of the 230, Seadoo only back it to 60mph officially. I love your backing of the 230 but think you maybe being doing what some of my fellow spark lovers do and say the 'spark does 54-55mph' when its only best case going to do 52-53 on perfect glass... maybe in perfect conditions you have hit 65 but would like to see the receipt for that buddy.. I still stand by the fact if I want to do 60-63mph, I'm picking a 2 stroke 951 GSX, XP or the likes of a GP 1200, as the relative cost of buying an entry level supercharger doesn't make sense to me. My main point on the 230 is why go out and spend supercharger money on a 230 when really superchargers IMO are all about top end 70mph and above (if tuned/modded)... I do disagree about low end pull of a supercharger! I've rode a number of modern big skis and for me the mid range-top end pull is the impressive bit, if I want low end pull, again 2 stroke all day long. Hell my 1996 wave raider for the first 20mph will hold with a 300hp... highlighting my point that superchargers are all about that continued pull... with the superchargers being so big and heavy anything light with good power will hold with it. I'm pretty sure I said supercharger and only referred to turbo's in relation to the spark... Appreciate you watching and the energy for the 230 but I need video proof to believe 65mph, if you got it I'll happily admit I'm wrong buddy.

@@classicjetskis Like any other supercharged jet ski, the top speed of the Sea-Doo GTR 230 is a restricted 65 mph

@@classicjetskis also now that I remember. Tell your friend to replace his wear ring and check his impeller. The wear ring should be replaced every year under heavy writing and every two years under light riding. Otherwise you get a reduction in top speed.

@@mattmolisbro Ok mate, I will pass that info on... hes only done 17 hours. In essence buddy when I did my research for the GTR video there was no consistency for grounds of reporting 65mph... Overall I guess the take take away is we now have a proper supercharge GTR with 300hp and for me at least I don't see the point of a baby supercharger.. in the same way I think a 130hp GTI is pointless... if the engine can achieve a speed, let it have it otherwise, its just a ECU/mapping semantics game for Seadoo to create more price points. I will concede that a mapped 230 will do way more than stock 🙌🙌

Talk to me dude, 'New maverick'? for sure the spark needs more power... needs to be 60mph stock. Thanks for watching 🙌💪

Can am has just released the maverick r with a 999cc turbo 3cyl, I would not be surprised if we see this motor in the new spark, maybe N/A for the standard spark and then fingers crossed a turbo option for the 'spark x' if we get it. I only say this as the original X3 maverick had a turbo version of the 900 ace from the spark, so doesn't seem to far fetched to go back the other way going from new maverick to spark . The 900 in the X3 makes 200hp while the spark makes 90hp, so say 110~ hp loss when you take the turbo away and put it in a ski instead of a side by side. Take that logic but apply it to the new 999cc and you're left with a (hopefully super reliable) 130hp spark, while still retaining the light weigh nature of the ski. How much fun is the gtrx btw best thing seadoo has done since the spark in my opinion

This sounds very promising and exciting... thanks for sharing this insight... a turbo to me has always seemed like the most realistic way of obtaining more power, whilst not destroying the size/fun/playfulness of the spark, as lets face it, the spark is great at what it does, so its how they give more power whilst not upsetting the great playfulness we now have... sounds like a very real option you mentioned... would be interested to see weight difference between the 2 setups you mentioned in the Can am? When I looked into 'turboing' my current spark, what put me off is all the issues people have ran into with not really being able to wave jump a spark anymore once turboed... due to the way the turbo sits on the mod kits due to weight not being supported to take the load off jumping stress. Although Seadoo say technically you shouldn't jump them, they know that anything they sell commercially needs to be fit for this mode of use... I may be ignorant here but snow mobiles don't jump like skis, so is this a reason why they can put a turbo in these machines vs a ski? Yes I've not rode a GTRX 300 but want to, looks like the best compromise if you want more power until we hopfully get a spark X. 20k though for a GTRX... not good value when I have playful quick 2 strokes in the garage, that only cost me a fraction... the spark is the best smiles per pound offering in my opinion new gen, and if we got more power then I truly believe a 3 up spark is perfect for most riders... I know this objectively as apart from more speed/power my Dad loved riding my spark for long periods... Thanks for the thoughts, really interesting stuff mate

The new engine looks VERY similarly sized, I can't imagine there would be that much difference in weight, it definitely looks like it's based on the 900 ace architecture. The spark is a very close to perfect platform but as you've said once you get past that initial learning curve of the wheelies, whips, jumps, etc, you're definitely left wanting more in the way speed. They're also just never quiet the same after being so heavily modified always chasing issues. A stock 60mph spark would tick all the right boxes for most people

I have, so many skis I would buy if I had the room lol

I'm working on it dude... I'm hoping to do a test ride on both the new GTRX 300 and RXP 325 T3 hull. I can confirm I rode a 170 GTI and that is super playful (for a bigger craft that is...never going to be a spark or XP) When I ride a GTRX I will make a follow up. Thanks for watching ✌

I do agree mate, most won't understand the merit of this model...In a way I feel like Seadoo think this is the best response to riders asking for a Spark X 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂ Whilst you make good points about GTX (ST3) being a better hull for long distance, this video is more geared towards how, if like me you're looking for playfulness in your ride and want real performance that can compete with 300hp machines, then the GTRX is the best there is (On paper that is...only time will tell)... Obviously if I had my way, I would have a 1630hp in a spark and have 170 lol, but thats likely unrealistic as Seadoo knows overnight the GTI 130 and 170 will become redundant... IMO the Seadoo line up should be a Spark as the lightweight playful offering, but needs to 60mph... Then GTR/GTX 300 as midground and then RXP/RXT 325 as top of the tree race crafts... I would also add, I think most would sacrifice a little bit of long distance rideability/comfort, if its means more playful characteristics at the lake/beach scenarios. Thanks for watching ✌✌

I went GTR cuz I already have a trixx. I like playful over carving so I didn’t go rxp. Maybe on the next one.

@@Vikturus2k6 I would say thats a good move, the RXP T3 is a great race machine, but recreationally you want a balance of performance and playful IMO. When we get a Spark X, sell old 90hp and GTR and just have the one... Enjoy it dude

@@classicjetskis Oh yeah for sure, I totally get that you were making the point that this is a more playful hull that finally has the 300 engine as an option, and could "low key" be the best 300 option if you are like us and want an old school fun play around ski for the lake. I'd gladly take a 1630 SparkX with a 130 (you can tune it to 170), hell I'd take a TR1 swap Spark since that has 110. While mulling it over I think a Spark that can reliably do 60 is wild, but then I think about the SXR, a stand up, can do about 64. I know the 325 will probably come to the GTX, but the GTX will always be marketed as the Top of the line ski unto only itself. I think you are right there should be tiers, but I envision 4 or 5 instead of 3; 1)Spark 2)GTI 3) specialty models (Fish Pro, Wake, Explorer) 4) performance (RXPX headlining with RXTX and GTRX as options) and 5) Luxury GTX. Just my two cents. Love the content.

​@@badm0t0rf1ng3r I would literally pay insane money for a 1630 spark, but that I think is not going to happen, I think it will be a turbo or them put a snowmobile engine into the same hull... I hear what you're saying about older skis and the fact that there are still faster 2 strokes, but I think 60mph stock on a spark would be a near perfect package...there is so much about the spark that makes modern day skiing that much easier, from the closed loop cooling, extended VTS, more stable for longer rides, whilst not to the detriment of the playfulness and the engine is bomb proof... the main area the spark shines vs say a GSX is the first 20mph launch in sports mode.... that fly by wire is so smooth and consistent... Although a GSX would still eventually outrun a 60mph spark, it would be minimal... 4mph can be levelled with a bit of chop... with any ski, the top speed is based on smooth ride conditions. In a nut shell IMO 60mph is a perfect top speed... anything more is a bonus but not necessary unless you need it, that is for racing that is... Really appreciate your detailed comment and interesting take on it mate.... I also think your tiering is fair... I guess the issue is if we get a Spark X that hits 60mph, that is a race machine right there in its own class... so maybe that is the issue, they would need to split the spark between 2 product category's and that doesn't make a lot of sense, as I don't ever see them getting rid of the 60 and 90hp sparks as they reside now. I see them giving us a limited edition X like the APEX and that is 1000% a performance ski then... if you think xp 951 or gp 1300 back in the day, they were called performance machines... as anything that hits 60mph is impressive top end.

For me it’s got to be the GTR X 300 with the Polytec 2 hull vs the ST3 hull in the GTX LTD… just because I want a more playful loose hull and the Polytec hull is more playful than the compliant ST3… that said if you want to eat through chop and have a compliant ride then the GTR would likely be a handful and annoying. I’m hoping to test the GTR X 300 soon so can then make a follow up video, as rode my dads ST3.. Thanks for watching

Thanks for replying. So can you say that the ST3 hull is more reliable and balanced for a family ride?

I owned one back in the day, was great fun ski.

No but alot of followers have said get one...TBH the main Kaw ski on my bucket list is a X2 as they are pretty iconic...I may have to put a 150 on the list...Tell me more mate? What are the engines like to work on? Thanks for watching 👌

@@JoshDK- Nice man 👌👌

@@classicjetskiswas quick and great in the surf. Stable/planted enough that you could play in the white water and not get pushed over, but nimble enough to man handle around anything and jumps like a Boss!! Some of my best ever jumps where on a 150

Nice man, sounds like a blast! If one comes up I must look into it more. Thanks again for watching

But then you have boat costs: storage, insurance, gas, etc... Its considerably cheaper to own a ski!

This is true but sadly modern day PWC's are now large machines and if you want new its big sadly... If I had my way, a high performance machine would be no bigger than a spark, full gel and 1630 like old school RXP, but that would take a lot more skill to ride and seadoo want mass market appeal, which that wouldn't be. Thanks for watching

@@badm0t0rf1ng3r Good point, its even cheaper to own a 2 stroke in the first place, a good running 951 can be picked up for 2k... starting price of 300hp machine is 20k... so that's 18k in the pocket... Prices sadly are silly now.

There's 98 gsx Ltd on eBay for £1500 ono at the moment. It looks pretty clean too... I would much rather have a gsx than any new ski... older is miles better 👌👍.... superb channel 👌

@@benjolly354 Yeh I saw that mate, I love my GSX 1999 so much and if it wasn't for the fact I have an example that is pristine, I would ride it week in week out...Sadly however with it now being 25 years old and being a classic...I want to keep it clean. So there is a new/gap for a new gen work horse ski. A spark has proven that the 900 ace will do 500 hours without a rebuild...most I've seen on the 951 is 250-300 but there will be alot of love and attention to get it there vs a spark that is pretty bomb proof... I think having both is the perfect set up IMO. Keep the classics clean and ride them on rotate and have a spark/gtrx as new gen work horse.

I hear your point on Polytec, but I think in Seadoo's defence I think Polytec on the whole has done a great job at proving its durability... even on my Spark Polytec hull, what I put that through, I think a gel coat would struggle... I think on both Gel and Polytec 2, the main area of concern would be big wave jumping... with the gel coat hulls its outright cracking we have seen as the main issue.... with Polytec 2 GTI/GTR its the bond line that can be the weak point.... Only time will tell. Thanks for watching 🙌