Transcript, links to Angelo's book, channel, and website, and more shows on Awakening: zdoggmd.com/awakening-barriers Angelo's site for future retreats: books.simplyalwaysawake.com/ 00:00 Intro 01:38 Unfiltered reality is ALWAYS present, just seemingly obscured 04:59 Barrier 1: not knowing awakening is possible 17:12 Fear disguising itself as acquisition of knowledge 22:00 Barrier 2: doubt and the standing wave of identity/thought 44:35 Barrier 3: realizing what is a thought and what isn’t 55:49 Advice for overcoming sticky beliefs

Hey, I know these don't get as many views as your other videos, but I think the people that do watch them get a LOT out of them. Thanks for making them!

Zdogg, I’m not in the medical community, but I absolutely love your discussions about awakening and consciousness, particularly with Angelo. The two of you have lead me to the awareness and understanding that probably saved my life. I cannot thank the two of you enough, and I will be eternally grateful.

Can confirm: Awake is a powerful book on the spiritual path

I’ve gotten a glimpse of this twice since being a kid. One lasted a day and one I persisted 4 days. I don’t know how or what I did to get in and out. I’d love to know. I remember those days clearly and long for that experience of reality almost daily. In fact that’s why I’m here.

I've heard "we don't control anything" over and over again, and my needing to control every person and situation stems from some pretty bad things that happened to me when I was very young. If I think something is beyond my control I become very scared likely stemming from my unconscious mind thinking more bad things will happen if I can't control everything, or at least quickly escape any situation I can't control. So I've spent alot of time exploring the nature of control, but since supposedly control is an illusion for me, who or what is controlling things? If it's not me and it's not you, then who? I'd say control is focused application of will towards some sort of object, but I also have heard that objects aren't real and are just an illusion. I know this on an intellectual level. A long time ago I realized, well deduced actually, that the only thing that can exist is the all, whatever label we choose to attach to it. So I understand all is one in a logical, Boolean, "if then" kind of way but I've had no direct experience of it. Like I said above I'm having a difficult time accepting that control isn't real because what makes anything happen if not the focused application of will? Is it just my tiny human will controlling anything is an illusion or is chaos, randomness and unconscious action the prime mover? Also, in regards to the "standing wave" idea it kind of ties into a realization I had about a year or two ago. Assuming we exist before we animate these bodies and we exist after we leave them then life is the odd part. We think of anything that exists that isn't in a body as the "other" or the strange when it seems the truth is the opposite.

26:58 "It really just comes down to a sense of just recoiling back into a subjective self to hold the world at a distance and *try to navigate it and think about it, etc. And then we believe that's how we actually live - that's how we cause life to do what life does.* But we don't, it's a holding back and a reflective 'safe place' of the mind." Something about this just makes so much sense.

thank you for introducing us to Angelo. Like you, I've benefitted enormously from his direct approach. His book has been a blessing to me.

I thought this was going to be about why I can't wake up in the morning, lol.

Someone said many years ago that religion is for ppl who need it. Idn see it that way when I was younger bc I grew up in a strong Catholic community and it was our training however as an adult, I can see some truth to that statement. I’m no longer affiliated with any religion and see it as a crutch for some ppl (not all) who are barely hanging on and that’s ok. Life can be difficult and we need all the help we can get to survive. Finding your “tribe” and sticking with it can heal broken hearts.

Thanks for bringing Angelo into my world. It’s great to hear two unpretentious ‘regular people’ talking. This subject sounds complicated but you guys make it simple.

This is so much like my path: A Course in Miracles! Thanks so much!

Thank you! Extremely helpful! Especially the part with music in your mind- I recently have it all the time. It usually plays Chopin or Rachmaninov 😂 Today in the morning during the inquiry I surrendered it. It didn’t stop but I have the impression it got more quiet and it stopped bothering me. I realized it won’t hinder me on my “pathway”. Now I know I am not the only one and I feel even more committed! Highly appreciate everything you both do! 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

Great as usual conversation between you two! Like Z always says you guys are brothers from a different mother 😉❤ Hey Z! You're really lucky to have VIP access to Angelo (your comment about the rest of us who don't have an "Angelo" close by was so sweet) but remember as they said... when the student is ready, the "Angelo" shows up ... always! 😉🙏❤

The whole interview as always is amazing, but I really loved the ending, with a lump in my throat "give yourself permission to carry on" and yeah, it is terrifying. 👌

I really appreciate you pointing out that feelings of spaciousness are also thoughts

Amazing listen, as always. Thanks gents! I will reflect with ruthless authenticity as to whether these barriers show up in my experience. Cursory thinking - surrendering deeply to spontaneity from fear of being an asshole or not being validated is definitely one. And sidenote, absolutely YES children authenticate presence. That made me jolt out of my seat in approval too Zubin 😂 Whenever I'm really coming from that place, all of a sudden children light up like Christmas trees and love being around me. The contrary - of being caught on the thought train - it's always the complete opposite. So fking true.

Every once in awhile, the continuous narrative in my mind ceases for an instant and I am just in the experience.

Angelo's thoughtless space pt1. and pt2. videos on his channel are really helpful.

absolutely love the way you both explore this subject. Angelo thank you SO much and Zuben, you are so receptive and such an able interviewer as well, a real joy to listen.

Listening from South-Africa. Glad I came accross you. Thank you.

This was amazing! You two are gifts. ♥️

I think I've done some of this years ago. Initially I learned to not fear or be ashamed of myself and accept my mind for what it is. I'm not sure where I would fall on this journey to awakening, or maybe I'm already there... Some of how you describe the human condition seems to alien to me at this point. I've had a peace for many years and i feel a similarity to being awake.. but also I could go further.

I can't believe my First grade teacher never told me that I could directly investigate the true nature of myself.

Did Zdogg blaze some chronic before this interview?? Crawling around and shit..lol 🙄😅 love it!

Thank you for this straight forward discussion of an important topic we're just barely starting to touch on in the west. One interesting blocker that comes up for me is the narrative mind's ability to co-opt an awakening experience and turn it into a story about "me" and "my awakening" and "how amazing it was" and "I've worked hard to get to this experience". The narrative mind will weave a net of words around your awakening experience, but what results is a false representation of that experience. Indulging this can lead one back into confusion.

I like the sun and cloud analogy.

Loved this conversation. Speaks to exactly where I am in the process. ❤️

I find convictions even a more accurate description as believe(systems) because a conviction implies constant effort/doing. also, it is not bound to a religious connotation only

I had a great disconnection for 2 days in a row after listening to this and another of their chats, so thanks for that! Loved both interviews

Loved this interview and thank you for explaining ‘my’ experience so well. It’s burning away, like it or not.

This was a great interview.

I'm really glad Z dogg said you can do this and still be functional; I don't know if I understand what he is talking about, but I've definitely been drawn to maybe what he is referring to and bouts of long introspection. Still, I always turn away because I don't want to go crazy or be seen as crazy.

Thank you both 💗👍💯

Love love this ❤

Will Angelo have his book on audio at any point? I think it would be SUPER helpful.

Angelo - I swear the exact same thing with intelligence - waking up was the single best thing that ever happened - none of that matters now tho - except right now -

Excellent, thank you

Very good and so is the book.

Totally helpful thank you ♡

I relate to almost all of this happening in my mind all the time. I hate this like I hate listening to Aubrey Marcus. Probably because they have what I want and I don’t know how to navigate that thought pattern. I also don’t know how to let go of my desire for security.

You are! I Am! You don't have to know anyting or do anything in order to Be what you are.

As you discussed filters I realized it’s like everyone addicted to filters in picture apps or snap chat or whatever that alter the true picture. We need to turn off all of those to get back to the original. Now I get the subtraction thing thank you for this

Thank you thank you thank you ❤

Very good podcast on advaita. Thanks a lot.

thank you

Listening to this series again, really useful I think (but that's just a thought)

Angelo Is Solid as a Tank!

📌It's actually our natural healthy state of being if we grew up in a respectful loving and not corrupted way. Everyone is special by nature because everyone is unique by nature. You just have to unfold yourself on the basis of respect and appreciation aka love to become and experience the uniquely beautiful person you are in connection with others and the world. Also not being afraid of your natural vulnerability as a living human being and not denying, hiding or trying to escape from it makes you actually stronger, brave and gives you the ability to live and experience the real beauty and quality of live.

True Knowledge is direct and experiential.

AMAZINGGG

11:41 so well said. You can’t keep from it.

OMG the box of Oreos…one of the funniest pieces of non-dual comedy to never actually exist

I love both of you ❤

God I love these 2

Love u guys. U put Islam in its displacement perspective.

Can you guys physically illustrate the standing wave thing? Angelo uses that metaphor a lot and it just makes me think of high school physics but I have no idea what it means

I can't believe I missed this!

Principle obstacle is overreliance on Awakening videos rather than transcending the mind directly. No problem. Access "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" and listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks. This is the foremost Shiva mantra from the Rig Veda. Manjushri in the Surangama Sutra states "They [practitioners] only need the practice of the faculty of hearing for them to break through to Enlightenment". .

Could you please talk about the up tick in hepatitis in children and is their any way to protect from server liver damage

Does anyone watching these videos, read or practice A COURSE IN MIRACLES?

Fun to watch you guys, being on the same wavelength, enjoying "inside" jokes. In 2020 I had an "awakening" using edibles. I had never used med Mary before. It was AWESOME!! I got soo much information. I felt so amazingly.. distant from myself but more myself than I have ever been. I felt no fear whatsoever. That lasted about a week. Then it slowly dwindled until I was in the worst depression of my life. Tiny decisions would throw me into a HUGE fight or flight panic attack. It was like I got a taste of being awake but had to go back and root out and deal with all the fears built up in my body. I am now teetering on the edge. A few days ago I was right there but chose not to leap. My reasoning, and yes, I know it is not true, but I did not want to not be this me anymore, quite yet.

How to spell the name of that app? The work of byron katie? Thanks!

I really love these videos about meditation/awakening, I’ve been trying to get there for quite awhile but seem to be having some trouble. Is it possible for certain medications to make the process more difficult? It’s really one of the only things I can think of

I don't wanna watch this because I'm well aware that that's just ego trying to attain some goody. And yet by refraining from watching it out of deciding that that would be the more spiritually correct way of attaining that goodie, then I'm absolutely stupid and doing the same thing. There is nothing to accomplish

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Just looked for the book on Audible, and it's not there. Is it available anywhere else in that format?

One problem i have when i go thoughtless is the loneliness of everything it even gives me shivers. Is it like that for everyone

It is not one’s job to be thoughtless. You should consider everything you do!Being thoughtless, is like the blink of an eye, its a reflex, not a action but a reaction! Sudden reactions get people hurt including self. That’s why tight steering is built into the fast cars to keep you from getting hurt or hurting someone else. The thoughts in your brain are spirits and your the soul which is the king or ruler of a whole kingdom that lives in your mind/brain. If you loose control the body becomes the thoughtless one and does as it pleases until war breaks out and causes things similar to seizures.

Oh, boy. I so want to understand (if not participate in) what you are talking about. I listen, or try to listen, to all these interviews, and talks by others such as Dr. Rick Hanson, but... I just don't get it. I was that kid in school with high aptitude tests and straight A's until I got to seventh-grade algebra, which was like that record-scratch sound to my brain. At that age, my brain said, WTF do I care what 1/2 xy is? Unlike most kids I loved geometry, because I could see what the angles and surfaces were. Algebra, though? My brain did not compute. Sometime into my mid-20s I finally understood; I think I needed life experience to understand what X and Y were substituting for. I'm in my 50s now and maybe when I'm 70 I'll finally need/want/understand this awakening stuff. Or not! I feel pretty satisfied with my life to this point, so maybe I don't "need" this and therefore can't see it. But I'm the curious type and am open to the idea of it.

Im interested

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I’m having a thought about the guy at it’s a small world with Double Thought Stuff Oreos. Also, how is your book still in such good shape. I have tabs all over mine marking stuff. Lol

Shinzen Young is there in Southern California he can help you

Will you do a video of the pfizer data dump? Will you do a video on pfizer's annual SEC filing?

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Amazing ❤️👌

Do either of you have days once in a while where thoughts win? Yesterday was like that and I’m moving on from it and dropping it now but am I the only one dealing with this periodically? Normally everything is on automatic but once in a while…

So did consciousness create these vessels the human body to feel pain? Im in a wheelchair with chronic neuropathic pain so its different, i guess.

displacement of Ego perspective and its fundamental principle of Oneness.

Read The One Straw Revolution. This is it. All you need.

I love this......

The sun meditation hurts...im going to trust my intuition and stop this practice. 😂

I do not now believe in such a thing as “ego”. What the word ego seems to point to is the automaticity of action-reaction, those innumerable programs or neural pathways that operate us. These programs can be observed, thought and emotion can be seen to arise out of reaction on a subtle or not so subtle level. The sense of identity is such a reflex. With the confirmation of repetition, this seems to be a truer and more helpful line of investigation. Please look, and see if this is not true.

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Haha, The Comedian Pete Holmes also likes to drop the "..If you're nasty"joke from time to time.🙂😄

Hi guys

Either you're both doing a much much better job at clearly identifying this process to a very wide ranging audience in a very empathetic way or my 15 plus year slow meditation education modern day shaman path is finally hitting a long downhill path toward some really long worked and waited for realizations and attainments.

Okay. Now it’s going to take days to get the Small World ear worm outta here. 😂

I take dexedrine and Redbull to stay awake 😆😆😆

A barrier to my awakening was the 21 times I was called by the NYS health dept in the past two weeks (using my cell and home phone) after having gotten COVID, all after my 5 day (really 6) isolation period, and a good percentage after my additional 5 days of required masking. I tried very hard not to freak out and tell anyone off. It was difficult. Another barrier is the shame I feel around getting COVID from my vaccinated mother who got it from a small, ventilated (door open), socially distanced home gathering of triple vaccinated always mask-ers. My mother didn't get the booster, because she got shingles after her second shot which took forever to recover from, and then everyone who got the booster ended up getting COVID over the winter...She's planning to wait until fall. No, this is not a joke or satire. I'm trying to stay sane. Also, I was disinvited from an Easter gathering of vaccinated people who mostly already had COVID after my required isolation was done, but those who had not yet gotten COVID tested positive within days of the gathering anyway. I've been shunned by these people for over two years, even though they came to every pre-pandemic gathering sick, and even came to a Easter gathering in the 80s with chicken pox. Again, trying to stay sane. Oh yeah, now that CVS has my information, they've started sending me reminders to get a COVID shot.

Well I have a 4 yr old so that's probably why lol

There's a basic reason I don't really bother with this content Z. I've been active in meditation for a bit over 50 years. One of the things I noticed is those who get into it often "awaken" and have the exact same view of what that is supposed to look like. If you're "awake" you just are. If you can describe exactly what that experience is then you're probably not "awake." But, I've been an outcast for many years because I don't agree with the conventional wisdom of what it means to be "awake" and what the experience is "supposed to" be like. Just a bit of wisdom gained through experience. If you tell yourself what's "supposed to happen" it will happen but, that's not true "awakening" it's simply a version of self hypnosis, in my view. Just SIT don't expect anything. JUST SIT!

I seem to get stuck on the "letting go" part 😅. Seriously though, my mind goes: "but HOW do I "let go"? What does that mean in practice? Does it mean not think about it? About what?"

So you can't trust anything?

Weird. 5 years ago I thought this guy was crazy...... ..... ..... .....

Soft squishy and present 🤣🤣🤣

You’re not clarifying what you’re talking about when you say waiting

Sorry, im new to these types of conversations. So, to me this sounds like double speak. Not a very informative speak on how to "break through" to "enlightenment". Budda and most even spiritual leaders spend years to their enlightenment, no?

Dogg lead a lot of people off a cliff two years ago. Just saying