Why Can't the BMW N55 Engine Make "High Power"?

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Simply Car Things

Simply Car Things

4 жыл бұрын

This was always a question I had, and I know many other have had. And there always seemed to be no clear answer aside from randoms on Bimmerpost mindlessly yelling that N55's suck. So I took it to myself to compile all the reading and forum digging that I could and come up with an answer. Hope you guys enjoyed and found this video informative! Like and subscribe for more awesome content!
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@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Just as an FYI, the point of this video was NOT to bag on the N55. As an owner of an N55 BMW and someone who greatly prefers it over the N54, I made this video to explain some of the hardware limitations that users encounter frequently which hinder power gains. Turbo & fueling being the two biggest factors from everything I have read, thankfully there are solutions to both of those :)
@thevernonposse
@thevernonposse 4 жыл бұрын
One was allot worse than the other as soon as it hit 2-3 grand and you let go of the pedal it sounded like two metal spoons being clacked together Sounded just like the vids on KZfaq titled spun rod bearing Ive been hearing more lately specially on 2011’s getting up to around 120-150k
@brissoNQ
@brissoNQ 3 жыл бұрын
As another N55 owner, its only reliable once you blow/crack every intake/boost pipe and replace them with aluminum
@cloutlxrdgaming44
@cloutlxrdgaming44 2 жыл бұрын
Bro it’s a bmw neither is gonna be reliable
@MnzGmz
@MnzGmz 2 жыл бұрын
Why even compare! You dont like the n55 dont freakinbuy it!
@danielselfslaghs7344
@danielselfslaghs7344 2 жыл бұрын
@@cloutlxrdgaming44 uou don’t know much about the n55 lol
@pokegan52
@pokegan52 4 жыл бұрын
As an N55 owner, I prefer the reliability over the power gains of an n54. I’m really not drag racing every commute so anything between 400-450 is just good enough for the car.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
rod bahmanyari same here, that was my reasoning too
@FreshieAlbanian
@FreshieAlbanian 4 жыл бұрын
Except its not reliable lmfao. Bare issues on mine
@xxanthonyxx8
@xxanthonyxx8 4 жыл бұрын
Ollie Clark I’ve been having mine for about 4 years and zero problems 😏
@seansurfn2
@seansurfn2 4 жыл бұрын
x2 i had an n54 335i and EVERYTHING broke on it. N55 2014+ version is vastly improved. metal water pump. no fuel pump recall on mine. m235i now.. and power.. lol im at 380 fbo mhd s1 great daily driver
@brandonh.6654
@brandonh.6654 4 жыл бұрын
Rei N55 is super reliable and if you get a EWG version it is essentially a matured product hence the new generation of B engines. This means this product is at the pinnacle of its development and now bmw is working on a different foundation. Moving forward, if you notice on select cars bmw utilizes 2 water pumps, this solves the WP issue, and you see fairly any rod issues. I can’t even find more than 1 mention of blown rods in my car and it was due to owner issues. The n55 is a great engjne
@vonknight5311
@vonknight5311 4 жыл бұрын
Here you go. N54 has forged crank and rods w/ cast iron pistons N55 has cast crank, rod, and pistons. Only the x4 m40i and m2 n55's have forged everything, and larger factory turbo. They even share the same forged rods as the s55. Both engines are open deck. All variants of n54 and n55 can make the same hp/tq unopened with bolt ons. N55 cast internals have been proven to hold up to the same power numbers as the n54. Both stock rods fail at 700tq, including s55. The punchines/"more power" feel of the n54 comes from the true twins, simply because they move more air. You will not get into big power numbers with twins, you have to do a single conversion. N54's also sound more crappy not only because of the twin turbo setup, but because of the true dual exhaust. You can clean up the sound by opting for a single pipe setup with or w/o resonators like the a80 supras. You can get an even better sound after pairing it with a single turbo. N55 has the single already but a true dual exhaust. Go single and you'll hear an even cleaner/more aggressive "2j" sound. In order to gain big power from either of these engines you have to close the deck and rebuild it with thicker forged pistons/rods/arp ardware. This is the same formula with open deck honda engines. The only closed deck inline 6 blocks are the s55 and b58. B58 is the strongest stock block because the cyl walls are coated similar to the GTR VR38. 1000hp n54/55 blocks have to be converted. The only differences in limitations between the two is R&D. Since the n54 has been on the market for longer, there are more complete kits and aftermarket support for them. DocRace, RK, and Motive are arguably the leaders in the development of parts and tuning. DocRace has a top mount n55 kit available, Turner Motorsport has a better looking engine cover (because the oem n55's one are ugly, all that's left for the cool looking factor is a front face intake manifold. DocRace will probably be the first to make that too. Once the n55 equipped BMW's drop lower in price and R&D reaches the same time as n54, you're going to see the community shift.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information and insight brother. Thank you for sharing this seriously valuable info to all of us! Such great stuff! I should also add the N55 in the M235i got the forged crank and rods as well.
@seansurfn2
@seansurfn2 4 жыл бұрын
the m235i 2014+ n55 has forged crank btw
@seansurfn2
@seansurfn2 4 жыл бұрын
tbh im getting a used m240i soon and the b58 engine is even better.. then ill be doin a 600hp+ setup
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@seansurfn2 nice man! should be a sweet build
@NeoxUnderxGOD
@NeoxUnderxGOD 4 жыл бұрын
Sheesh bro read this whole thing, gotta say this makes me feel much better about the 2012 335i I’m getting. I’m saving this comment by the way. So informative. Predicate chu my guy 👌🏾
@Gearsandco
@Gearsandco 4 жыл бұрын
i still prefer n55 it sound better and i don’t need a 1000 whp to be happy
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
very true man, i agree haha
@xxanthonyxx8
@xxanthonyxx8 4 жыл бұрын
You clearly never drove one then 😂
@Gearsandco
@Gearsandco 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Castillo i did but man the n55’s sound is the best
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Castillo I have... he’s still right, you don’t need even close to half of that to have fun.
@davelong4131
@davelong4131 3 жыл бұрын
Nick, what exhaust are you running?
@amccann99
@amccann99 4 жыл бұрын
My buddies with N54s are always broken down. They've driven my 2014 F30 N55, stage 2 Bootmod3, are blown away by how fast it is. I'm in Medical sales and drive it all over Arizona, have around 50k miles on it with all my mods/tune. Never had a single problem with it, just your basic maintenance.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
exactly man! i have almost the exact same mods except i also run E30 and im at 56k miles with zero issues
@gazabear6216
@gazabear6216 11 ай бұрын
Do u live in phoenix
@peterhajj2107
@peterhajj2107 3 ай бұрын
You still have the car? How's reliability ?
@cameronfeniuk8966
@cameronfeniuk8966 4 жыл бұрын
N55 engine is super solid, I have a 15’ 335 performance edition stage 2 and let me tell you, this thing fly’s . I keep up with stock m3 /m4 & c63s...
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Yea man, N55's are sweet! Love mine especially on E85
@Infinite1972
@Infinite1972 4 жыл бұрын
Me too I love my N55 2015 M 335i and it's fast. I don't know what this guy in the video is talking about. His set up is probably with cheap mods that isn't producing quality high power IJS. I"ve seen videos where they got the N55 up to 800 to 1000hp
@eninety
@eninety 4 жыл бұрын
No you are not keeping up with c63s with an n55 hahhahaa
@seans3949
@seans3949 4 жыл бұрын
I raced a pure turbo stage 2 full e85 M235XI and beat It in my M4 with Basic CS tune.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@eninety yea with just a "stage 2" flash there's no way lol
@luvsthose8230s
@luvsthose8230s 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see the different variants.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
ill make a video on this topic
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing forged in N54 was the crankshaft. Failed to note the N54 has piezoelectric injectors vs. the solenoid injectors in the N55. Many improvements in big end bearings, windage control, cooling pump regulation and oil separation on the N55. Note to poster: Under hood air is hotter and less dense than ambient air. Thus power isreduced by the DME.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@machtschnell7452 great points that i didnt know about. i read that the N54 had forged rods as well, this isn't true?
@eyeyron5007
@eyeyron5007 4 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft in f30 n55 is the same in the s55 f8x
@Estorilblue.N55
@Estorilblue.N55 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound of the n55 over the n54 and b58. The Power with MHD Stage 2+ is enough and daily usable
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed man! Summed it up well
@chingadazosmma101
@chingadazosmma101 4 жыл бұрын
It is EASIER and Cheaper to make power on an N54, but it is ludicrous to think you can't make high power on an N55 which is an all improved version of the N54, that gave birth to the S55 on the M3/M4... I had both and can tell you the N55's torque is unmatched by the N54 in stock form or even when you tune both with MHD and stock turbos. The N55 is a better engine period, just like the B58 is better than the N55..
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
yea id agree with you totally! i made this video to try and ease people's criticisms of the N55 engine haha
@johnMpower
@johnMpower 4 жыл бұрын
Leave the drugs please.
@InGrindWeCrust2010
@InGrindWeCrust2010 Жыл бұрын
Is the B58 proving to be as reliable? I did a huge amount of research before zeroing in on a '14 with an N55. Now eyeing the current M240i.
@turtleslam4185
@turtleslam4185 Жыл бұрын
Stock for stock i obliterated my buddies n54 from a dig. He has a e92 n54 2008 while i have a E92 n55 2012
@cam_s_
@cam_s_ 8 ай бұрын
​@InGrindWeCrust2010 i might be a little late, but yes, the b58 is very reliable. probably the most reliable engine bmw has ever built
@andrewfinley1338
@andrewfinley1338 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2009 335 Tune and FBO and now 2013 335, tune and full fatback exhaust. From my experience, the n54 is a powerful and fun engine, gaining so much power from simple bolt ons. However, I did have many issue including high pressure fuel pump going bad, and turbo issue. I traded it for the 2013 before hitting 100k. The n55 is a lot smoother, but not as fast as the n54 with similar tunes. No issues so far and I am hitting 75k. I can see that car going more than 100k without problems. N54 is best but be prepared for unreliability and headaches
@tyrox1667
@tyrox1667 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running a custom map on my 435i with upgraded FMIC and DP and managed to get around 490hp and 780nm with stock turbo and HP-LPFP. Really happy with the result and no problems with the engine even with now 180k km on it. A really great engine if you maintain it right.
@Brad0st
@Brad0st 2 жыл бұрын
could you please share information about your custome tune?
@tyrox1667
@tyrox1667 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brad0st sure it has an MHD tune in combination with xHP Flashtool. Then I hit up wedgeperformenceracing and they made a cutome map via runs in 3rd and 4th gear while logging. They tweaked the map a couple times and I had finally those results. It was tuned to the max, more boost would result in a Railpressure drop, so thats the first thing which was limiting the power to under 500 hp. Also had a custome made exhaust system with only a resonator, decat downpipe, upgraded TMAP sensor form the N20, fully upgraded intake/chagrgepipe, upgraded BDV and upgraded FMIC. Probably forgot some things. But yea could keep up with a Stage 2+ 440i and destroyed M4s.
@donniechism425
@donniechism425 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrox1667 can you do a build list for us pls 490hp outta a n55 ?
@jaredmeche6325
@jaredmeche6325 4 жыл бұрын
I got my M-packaged 08' 135i right when they came out, and sold it for my 15' M235i. Both first and only owner of the cars. Pretty much fell on the floor laughing when you mentioned the N54's advanced fuel system/pumps. BMW owned up to its issue, and slapped 120k mile warranty on N54's fuel pumps, so I respect them for that. Nevertheless, I was at about my 6th fuel pump by the time I got the M235i. Such a headache.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
yea total headache for sure haha, it's interesting though since the N54 HPFP seems to be stronger out the box although not as reliable
@YunqTab
@YunqTab 4 жыл бұрын
SIX? GEEZ lmao.
@ksull72487
@ksull72487 4 жыл бұрын
That was across the board the minis had the same issues.
@mitasuomipolttaatanaan842
@mitasuomipolttaatanaan842 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you never bought good fuelpump insted of original?
@DNONN
@DNONN 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about the different n55 variants I didn’t know that was a thinf
@f32_boost52
@f32_boost52 4 жыл бұрын
Do the variant video. I'm very interested to hear about the M2 noncompetition model.
@markt9438
@markt9438 2 жыл бұрын
Good info we need to investigate the n55 more for it's capabilities over the n54 seems easier to tune with MHD and for the basic builder that's all we need
@YunqTab
@YunqTab 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 13' pre-July (if you know you know) F30 335i Sedan and my car was in the middle of the development stage. It's PWG. They switched to EWG in July. The wastegate difference alone will allow EWGs to be able to take 20-40 more hp more than a PWG car would. They also had the DME locked until May (dont' quote me on this) of 2013. HUGE differences that people don't realize until they start modding their cars.
@tomislav1575
@tomislav1575 4 жыл бұрын
Where to find tuning parts for this engine
@fastboatster
@fastboatster 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, please make a video about n55 variants. Many of these variants are almost different engines
@user-fb5zk3bd7i
@user-fb5zk3bd7i 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I’m looking at a 2007 335i coupe that’s a manual and has 118k on it. The price is $6500 obo... what would you say? Buy it or keep looking? Thanks
@fr3nzy927
@fr3nzy927 2 жыл бұрын
So is there a difference between the n55 e90 variant then the f30’s as I’m stage 2 fbo in my 2011 bmw 335i and it seems to be that the stock f30’s can still keep up how come that is can anyone explain?
@thekripkrons22
@thekripkrons22 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video dude. Extremely informational. More videos on N55 plz
@MrPotato16
@MrPotato16 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference in turbo lag between them?
@leandrotravieso9590
@leandrotravieso9590 2 жыл бұрын
How much is the most I can get out of my f30 n55 and that the engine is safe?
@nadimabb
@nadimabb 4 жыл бұрын
What remapping software/hardware did you use for the N55?
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Full Bolt ons and I flashed the car with Bootmod3 from Pro Tuning Freaks
@SuperMedic07
@SuperMedic07 4 жыл бұрын
So if u have FBO done will the horsepower increase be the same in both engines or will the n55 make less power ?
@cjpp78ytube
@cjpp78ytube 4 жыл бұрын
The point of twin scroll is for faster spool up of the turbo.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
yes, very good point
@pgr0104
@pgr0104 4 жыл бұрын
That was the point of the N54s small twin turbos as well, but the cost to outfit the engine with twin turbos is more money than a single twin scroll turbo setup. Only reason they did it was to save money
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
@@pgr0104 yep, id argue that the twin scroll does that job better as it can spool very quickly.
@n54problemsolved55
@n54problemsolved55 4 жыл бұрын
Earlier version of N55 came with same continental style HPFP as N54 HPFP... how do I know, I got one.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@14nightwolves
@14nightwolves 4 жыл бұрын
i’ve heard of some guys trying to retrofit the S55’s dual HPFP setup but i think it’s pretty costly
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
ive heard that as well! but very little info surrounding that topic and how easily it can be achieved
@X314G
@X314G 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty close to the limit with my stage 2+ 400awhp n55 but you really don't need more power for a daily, since upgrading from stage 1 I rarely go WOT from a stop anymore cuz it gets up to 60 pretty quick at 3.7 sec and I still get to make my friend jelly that his brand new m340i won't beat my little F32 lol -Edit: I'm pretty much at the limit without doing major drivetrain upgrades, F Chassis AWD can't handle that much HP stock
@mythos000000025
@mythos000000025 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a 335xi as well. The 8hp50(mines a '15) handles power just fine,,especially if you reflash(same with earlier 8hp45) BUT the dang 180mm diffs that are welded and open really limit power handling. It is possible to have lsd's installed but stupid expensive. If I ever get to install an 8hp70 then I'll look into seeing if I cam sntall the 210 diffs front and rear with a bolt-on ring gear(to send in and install an lsd on the stock diff it's around $2400ish per)
@crazylunitic1
@crazylunitic1 4 жыл бұрын
Have you raced Gios current car/setup yet with your current car settup? I think it would be a good race.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
i havent with E85. I raced him a while back with his E60 FBO N54 when I was on pump gas and i kept up somewhat, but i havent gone against his newest 335i
@tang.7333
@tang.7333 11 ай бұрын
Just incase anyone visits this. N54 never came with forged internals, maybe crank... but the rods and pistons was debunked on bimmer post. From what I'm understanding, it's literally the twin turbos
@syphonfilter1972
@syphonfilter1972 4 жыл бұрын
N55 with fmic and stage 2 mhd tune can produce up to 370 HP. That's what I'm looking to do with my 335i hopefully by winter
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
very solid power levels!
@mattpearce3196
@mattpearce3196 4 жыл бұрын
I have the N55 I did the intake and charge pipe with mhd stage 1. I recently bought my intercooler and catless downpipe. I'm going to install them at the same time with mhd stage 2+ so I'm not buying 2 tunes. What kinda power do you guys think I'll make from that?
@phiillzzz807
@phiillzzz807 10 ай бұрын
As someone who came from buying 1000$ shitboxes like old civics and fords with 0-60 in yes seconds, i was absolutely perplexed when i got to do a test drive on an f30 335i xdrive... its a whole other world going from sub 100hp cars to something with 300hp... i couldn't fathom what i had experienced and immediatly bought the car.. it didnt take long before i started to venture into mods. i'm not a mechanic by any means, but working on my own cars and doing maintenance is something i've always done since i ever had my first car. i never had this joy of buying parts online before, and installing them myself.. that's when i found out about flash tuning and again, changed what i really thought cars where capable of.. after installing a blow off, intake, intercooler, charge pipes, and fuel components, i went straight for a downpipe and got a mhd stage 2+.. i'm certain the car feels like it has around 450whp and i feel like i can gap any car or supercar (just that greatness feeling lmao) and honestly i absolutely love the damn thing.. its sharp, fast and nimble.. more than what i need, more than whats needed to even drive on the streets... its something i take pride in, coming from shitboxes to something i built by my own hands and makes me feel tremendously happy.. no joke, building this car in months it took, eased off on my depression, and driving it like a hoon is it's own experience to cure it.. we dont need 1000hp big turbo cars like everyone on youtube or social media is doing.. just find a good platform, mod it and tune it to your taste.. drive like you stole it (responsibly) and have fun, with the 300 or 400hp that the car has.. it's way more than enough. cheers
@91greenteg
@91greenteg 4 жыл бұрын
I love the N55, it's full of torque and sounds amazing, I just gotta drive a B58 car to decide between a 435i or 440i 🤔
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
N55's are badass, but man the B58 is on another level! You gotta drive one!
@svo7563
@svo7563 4 жыл бұрын
Tim C B58 is chaos. Shit bangs!
@adriangutierrez8177
@adriangutierrez8177 4 жыл бұрын
Tim C Get a 440i. Very cable motor stockwise
@chrisrobinson7395
@chrisrobinson7395 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 140i stage 2 running 452bhp. Monster!
@thewonderfulland6207
@thewonderfulland6207 3 жыл бұрын
Bro 440i eyes close .b58 it is way faster than a n55 b58 its an upgraded version of N55
@gtiguy727
@gtiguy727 4 жыл бұрын
Did you get an engine code from the burger intake? Suggestions?
@Krypton999
@Krypton999 3 жыл бұрын
in my situation does the bmw 2013 528i have a n55 or n54? what years are mainly n55
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 3 жыл бұрын
That has neither. A 2013 528i would be equipped with the N20 Turbo 4 Cyl engine I believe
@guidoluzzi66
@guidoluzzi66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings that is correct. The same engine as the 228, 328 and 428
@digiilovo9177
@digiilovo9177 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know different changes they made for the N55 compared to other N55 as you were saying at the beginning of the vid
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Long Vo i just made a video on this, check it out on my channel!
@stoss-11
@stoss-11 3 жыл бұрын
love going back and watching these videos, such good knowledge to refresh on every so often
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 3 жыл бұрын
really appreciate the support bro, means a lot :)
@zohaibsalim4038
@zohaibsalim4038 4 жыл бұрын
N55 sounds amazing though.
@nstylemotorsportsracing1471
@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 3 жыл бұрын
Does the N55 in the M2 have the same crank hub problem? I am thinking of buying one for track days and perhaps doing a few bolt on's, nothing crazy maybe 400+
@rylo4262
@rylo4262 4 жыл бұрын
Spool performance has a HPFP in beta rn my buddy has it wasn’t as pricey as xdi I think
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
so freaking awesome! cant wait to hear more about their product and results!
@kylesm235i4
@kylesm235i4 4 жыл бұрын
Ya only $900
@YungSav16
@YungSav16 4 жыл бұрын
So what about the 2011+ E82 135 N55’s?
@SlayTheSins
@SlayTheSins 4 жыл бұрын
306hp slow? The heck
@mattpearce3196
@mattpearce3196 4 жыл бұрын
Variants please! I have a 2011 n55 and I'm curious.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
I made a variants video! it's the one i posted right after this one
@Tyler.Tressel
@Tyler.Tressel Жыл бұрын
You mentioned only the EWG N55’s vs N54’s but forgot about PWG N55’s like in a late model e82 135i or e90 335i when talking about fueling. The short on our systems is the LPFP, which is already a stronger system than the EWG cars. Just like the N54, the PWG N55 HPFP is the stronger of the two N55’s, and most of the time is good for E60 blends without port injection. Plus a bonus is that it’s way cheaper to upgrade a LPFP than a HPFP! (Unless you factor in having to replace it around 120k if you’re outside of their class action lawsuit timeline for the HPFP)😉
@nickc5220
@nickc5220 4 жыл бұрын
Yo can you make a vid on the s55 crank hub problem?
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
yes! thats actually coming very soon!
@namastelana5586
@namastelana5586 Жыл бұрын
I have a bit of confusion here. Don’t s54 owners go single turbo for big power? The shop in Nashville 2 years ago specialized in that. Isn’t it the same reason people ditch the twin RB for a big single RB?
@Johnnie5213
@Johnnie5213 4 жыл бұрын
N54 is legendary ❤️👍👍
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
it's a fantastic engine!
@Khalid335i
@Khalid335i 4 жыл бұрын
Over engineered from the factory ;) N54 Gang 💪🏽
@elias1747
@elias1747 4 жыл бұрын
N55 for daily and N54 for project ;)
@M5tubee
@M5tubee 4 жыл бұрын
EYZ thats what i got 640 and 135 😁
@farrukhdada6688
@farrukhdada6688 4 жыл бұрын
@@elias1747 Vice versa ;)
@Waspsnest451
@Waspsnest451 2 жыл бұрын
What you’re saying about the twin scroll is kinda off, a twin scroll is actually better than a twin because how it works is it dynamically adjusts at different RPM’s one gate is larger than the other so you get appropriate boost throughout the rpms.
@Djknockout1
@Djknockout1 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder if my 2015 335i msport ewg has a forged crank?
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
I believe it's cast
@Royalties500
@Royalties500 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 14' N55 in a 335i - had the dealer install the Dinan stage 2 tune. Within 1000 miles it was in the dealer countless times with issues. Went into limp mode x times, blew the intake pipe twice. Needles to say I traded the car soon after was just a headache.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
wow, i'm surprised to hear that. My 2015 M235i has been tuned with E85 and is at 56k miles not a single issue
@johncrazy8756
@johncrazy8756 4 жыл бұрын
awesome video!! thanks!!!
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@joanthanbustos5101
@joanthanbustos5101 4 жыл бұрын
With the mods applied to this n55 what’s the top speed?
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
im not too sure but id guess around 170ish mph!
@chingadazosmma101
@chingadazosmma101 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Car Things I removed my limiter on my 2011 335i MSport PPK, and 160 on a runway was not even an effort.. Didn't go full top speed as it was a small private airport in Nevada, so I can see 175 or a bit more
@nemanacemu2024
@nemanacemu2024 3 жыл бұрын
7000
@IAmDamiani
@IAmDamiani 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings I have the N55e Series and I got up to 150 MPH and still had room for more. I believe 165 - 170 MPH max.
@omarsantos929
@omarsantos929 4 жыл бұрын
@Simply Car Things feel free to share those information!
@Kert56789
@Kert56789 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the different variants of the n55 engine
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
i did! I uploaded the video yesterday
@sunny71169
@sunny71169 3 жыл бұрын
Got an N55B30 in a 2016 M235i I bought new. At 53K miles have had zero issues with anything.
@GrantCourtney-xx5fc
@GrantCourtney-xx5fc Жыл бұрын
Only problem I’ve had with my 2016 f22 is offer putting the JB4 tube on it is that it eats through charge pipe I’m in my 3rd in less than a year (it was fine stock) and I’m hoping to get an aluminum one instead.
@zekemvrtinez
@zekemvrtinez 4 ай бұрын
with all due respect that was a very foolish decision to tune before upgrading ur chargepipe, chargepipe is the first thing you need to do before anything else with these n55s, i gotta ‘16 m235i myself and did the cp and FMIC not long after preventative purposes
@Malolalo95
@Malolalo95 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was the first time ever i actually smashed the like button and subscribed lol
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 3 жыл бұрын
haha, appreciate the support man!
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 4 жыл бұрын
12 years and 196000 kms and my n54 is still going strong making 407 whp and i give it hell... only thing i changed is my injectors to index 12. Original hpfp, original turbos bit of rattle tho, original water pump. Full bolt ons of course and custom tune water methanol injection.. still not bad for a old motor. Long live the mighty N54.
@guidoluzzi66
@guidoluzzi66 3 жыл бұрын
At 407whp I’m surprised you never blew the charge pipe. The stock one is plastic
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 3 жыл бұрын
@@guidoluzzi66 it all the bolt on stuff charge pipe ,down pipes ,intercooler diverter vavles.. Now i have the 17ts ebay turbos ran 11.6 122mph not to bad. Time for a single turbo 👍
@D1beam
@D1beam 2 жыл бұрын
idk but I’m getting an n55 with this 335i and I’m only looking to make 400whp as a daily tbh
@HoweDoYouDo1999
@HoweDoYouDo1999 4 жыл бұрын
I mean if it ain’t bound to make enough power there is always testing the limit but don’t expect reliability riding it out like that 😂
@098cpt
@098cpt 4 жыл бұрын
A twin scroll miminc a sequential twin turbo. I belive n54 are parallel turbo setup. So not exactly the same feeling. N55 would be way more linear for the same total output. Thus faster.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the clarification!
@jery2847
@jery2847 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way you rock side to side, it feels like we are dancing
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 2 жыл бұрын
thanks :')
@opsupa3154
@opsupa3154 2 жыл бұрын
Lolol
@Lester.M
@Lester.M Жыл бұрын
If you don’t think you the N55 isn’t capable …. A. You don’t have money. B. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You can literally can upgrade an N55 to a closed deck.
@JustLuuchi
@JustLuuchi 3 ай бұрын
Everyone just loves to say the b58 is better and the best bmw ever made
@ArtemDzhadzha
@ArtemDzhadzha 4 жыл бұрын
Alpina still makes their B3/B4 by taking N55 and putting Mitsubishi turbos from N54 (+ forged crankshaft, larger intercooler, NGK spark plugs, aplina ECU and TCU flash). So current Alpina B3/B4 is basically a N55 + N54 turbos, it makes 440hp and it's a stock car with all warranties
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting! i had no idea they did that!
@ArtemDzhadzha
@ArtemDzhadzha 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Car Things they have this info on their web site. Don't remember if they clearly say ”N54 turbos”, but you can definitely recognize it from the picture of on their website
@90sGasPrices
@90sGasPrices Жыл бұрын
I’m in the process of buying a 135i N55 having come from a Chevy Cruze with a blown head gasket and I’m sure the N55 will blow my mind. the exhausting pursuit of the “best version” of a bargain sports car feels pointless. The N55 may not be as “tunable” as some other model, but it does have that fancy screen and swanky rotary dial at a price that I can afford. That alone is worth way more to me than the ability to get more power out of expensive bolt on parts that I would never use to begin with because it would void my warranty anyway.
@seanpoore500
@seanpoore500 Жыл бұрын
The n55 is a highly tuner friendly engine, especially the n55b30O0(m235i) and the n55b30T0(m2) due to their forged pistons, crankshaft, and additional oil cooling. Upgrade the charge pipe and you’re good to 400whp, upgrade the intercooler and you’re good to about 450whp before you start getting fuel cutting issues.
@rackscalling
@rackscalling 2 жыл бұрын
e92 335i n55 is the perfect balance. you get the reliability and power without the newer n55 limitations
@seanpoore500
@seanpoore500 Жыл бұрын
Idk what limitations you’re referring to regarding the later n55 iterations. They’ve became more robust and tuner friendly. For starters adding an ewg as opposed too pneumatic. Also forged crank and rods as opposed too cast.
@paulpateman3968
@paulpateman3968 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Omar your car is awesome 😎
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, Paul! appreciate the support always!
@Htownhitter
@Htownhitter Жыл бұрын
This is no longer true we broke 1000 hp boys
@randallboone9375
@randallboone9375 2 жыл бұрын
N54 vs N55 blown WAY out of proportion. So N54 makes a little more power on stock turbo. Ok. N55 maxed out stock turbo still fast af compared to other cars. Then, just turbo upgrade the N55 if you want ultimate power. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@navtejnahal
@navtejnahal 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly happy with my n55 m2
@robkenney826
@robkenney826 4 жыл бұрын
N55 with the ZF 8 speed. That ZF transmission is incredibly quick. Even stock. Throw an XHP flash tune on it and that car will be/feel like a little rocket. My wife owns a m235 and it’s the most funnest car to drive, she won’t let me tune it but for some reason I enjoy driving it A LOT more than my full bolt E90 335i making 450WHp. Sometimes I feel that it’s just as quick. Wish she’d let me full bolt on it I could only imagine how fun yours is bro
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 4 жыл бұрын
I think BMW figured out that you can get a N54 335i, put some money and take over some E9X M3s. So they built their N55 so you can’t take over their F8X M3/M4. Now, explain N55 differences between E and F chassis. Even their down pipes are different!!
@ChristopherGuilday
@ChristopherGuilday 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of makes sense. However, in the used market I don’t really see the advantage of buying an N54, I only see disadvantages. The N54 has so many problems that it isn’t worth it to buy one used, even if your shooting for 500+ HP. It’s very likely you’ll need to upgrade the N54 turbos, along with various other issues. The cost you’ll spend fixing it will exceed the cost to simply upgrade the N55 turbo & fuel system, and you’ll have a more reliable, newer car.
@jmccarsnmore1025
@jmccarsnmore1025 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherGuilday When you think about back then, ten years ago, it makes perfect sense. Right now you get a tunable B58, makes more power than the N54 and way more reliable.
@samuelbanks1988
@samuelbanks1988 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 E82, with full bolt ons meth, and stage 1 turbo, I did 414 hp and 522 tq on a dyno but that was in the summer heat of Texas so it was heat soaked so I think it would've hit about 450 hp
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
very impressive numbers! is it a dct or manual?
@samuelbanks1988
@samuelbanks1988 4 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings manual
@Jaaaayarre
@Jaaaayarre 4 жыл бұрын
Omar lets go to the next meet and vlog from there lol
@twinscrolled
@twinscrolled 4 жыл бұрын
Stock Turbo (EWG) N55's are running mid 11's. 99% of custom single turbo N54 cars are 11 second cars so how much more hp an N54 can make doesn't mean shit really. After 13 years there are still only a handful of N54's running 9's and barely. And there are not many 10 second N54's either when you consider how many were built.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
totally agree man, I think with N54's a lot of the bragging has become simply a numbers game which is somewhat meaningless in my opinion
@gynads
@gynads 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 M2. I'll be testing the B58 HDP6 fuel pump on stage 2 before going for the big boost/PS2
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
thats something others have been saying! please keep us updated with how that goes
@usernamealreadytaken770
@usernamealreadytaken770 4 жыл бұрын
Is the swap difficult? I have a 2017
@gynads
@gynads 4 жыл бұрын
@@usernamealreadytaken770 It's not too bad, the actual pump is awkward to get to, and all you have to do is cut the flange on the new pump. The HDP5 evo pump is easier to fit than the HDP6, due to the angle of the connector of the 6, you have to dremel a small bit of plastic from the inlet manifold. You're not from Louth are you mate btw?
@usernamealreadytaken770
@usernamealreadytaken770 4 жыл бұрын
gynads No, America.
@d4rkn065
@d4rkn065 Жыл бұрын
How is it going ?
@Jaaaayarre
@Jaaaayarre 4 жыл бұрын
Omars the best for comin down to san diego and replacing my stock shit mirror caps with some nice carbon fiber
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
i gotchu man! thanks for buying them :)
@dhillonalamshaw8642
@dhillonalamshaw8642 4 жыл бұрын
Bro that autoclub Speedway brings bag memories
@dhillonalamshaw8642
@dhillonalamshaw8642 4 жыл бұрын
Back^*
@N54_is
@N54_is 2 жыл бұрын
My 2011 E92 335i (N55) makes 400Whp with bolt ons, stock turbo and 93 octane at 16-18 PSI.
@tmc8516
@tmc8516 Жыл бұрын
What mods are you running?
@N54_is
@N54_is Жыл бұрын
@@tmc8516 Sorry to disappoint, I came to find the previous owner at some point installed a Stage 2 Turbo 😂. I was always wondering why the damn top end was soooo strong…
@N54_is
@N54_is Жыл бұрын
@@tmc8516 Vargas Stage 2 Hybrid Turbo VRSF 5 inch intercooler Stock BMW Diverter Valve Aluminum Charge Pipe VRSF Ceramic No cat Downpipe (straighpiped except for some sort of aftermarket mufflers (2 of them)) CSF 200$ radiator 1 Step Colder Plugs gapped at 0.022 Dinan Ignition Coils BMS Intake
@ArielJLuna
@ArielJLuna 5 ай бұрын
You can make 700 stock block on the newer n55s no problem
@JustLuuchi
@JustLuuchi 4 ай бұрын
Do you mean the f30 or the m235i and the m variants ?
@ArielJLuna
@ArielJLuna 4 ай бұрын
Both f30 & f22 but any of them tbh f32 etc..
@JustLuuchi
@JustLuuchi 4 ай бұрын
@@ArielJLuna people say n55 is slow lol
@ArielJLuna
@ArielJLuna 4 ай бұрын
@@JustLuuchi yeah idk why it’s just trendy to say that tbh 😂
@JustLuuchi
@JustLuuchi 4 ай бұрын
@@ArielJLuna it’s funny to me when they say that and then when they get beaten by a N55 they make up every excuse as to why they lost to one hahah
@luyanoH
@luyanoH 4 жыл бұрын
N54 forged rods and crank, N55 doesnt. and I do believe the the N54 block pistons sleeves are stronger as well
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
not entirely true. Certain vairants of N55 such as in the M235i & M2 got forged crank and rods as well. The N55 in the M2 also has the valvetronic, bearings, and pistons from the S55 as well.
@sipsimies1588
@sipsimies1588 4 жыл бұрын
How do you afford this
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
i work a job, and live at home
@DrivenGermans
@DrivenGermans 4 жыл бұрын
N55 does sound good though.
@AH-jv5zt
@AH-jv5zt 2 жыл бұрын
I’m hitting near 500whp on my f21 m135i n55 and I can have it more up than this. They do over 650whp on these engines without internals. All the n54 55 b58 all need big changes to make great power, a turbo upgrade and hpfp the right fuel and bingo they all do it. They get to certain point and all will break and need internals for big big power
@rambow70
@rambow70 4 жыл бұрын
N55 is reliable but why go N55 when the new B58 makes more power and also seems to be reliable? Edit: Also yes please do a video on all the N55 variants!!
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
good point! I think it mainly comes down to price at the moment. Many N55 powered cars have seen significant price reductions in the secondhand market.
@lsharpe1999
@lsharpe1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings some of the older cars have gone up in value, i got a 2016 m135i for £15k, can sell my spec a year on for nearly £2k more than i bought it for
@donbalooga
@donbalooga 4 жыл бұрын
You must not heard of "@1StockF30" on Instagram Aka the N55 King....
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
the point of this video wasnt to bag on the N55. As an owner of an N55 BMW and someone who greatly prefers it over the N54, the point of this video was to explain some of the hardware limitations that users encounter frequently. Turbo & fueling being the two biggest factors from everything I have read. And yes i have heard of 1StockF30, his car is badass.
@kay19833
@kay19833 4 жыл бұрын
It's full bot on, what exactly is FBO on this car?
@adamr4003
@adamr4003 4 жыл бұрын
intercooler, charge pipes, intake, downpipe, maybe exhaust....
@omarsantos929
@omarsantos929 4 жыл бұрын
E82 and E9X debuted in europe in 2004 and the N54 debuted in 2006! thats why the pre lci cars in 2007 have a different chime because thats the chime from 04-07!
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
crazy how long ago that was! yet that engine still holds up in terms of performance!
@omarsantos929
@omarsantos929 4 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings BMW makes the best cars in the world period!
@djfelon4life
@djfelon4life 3 жыл бұрын
The wheels on your car are gorgeous. I like them more than the M2 wheels.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! They grew on me quite a bit, but I personally would still take the M2 wheels over these
@HoweDoYouDo1999
@HoweDoYouDo1999 4 жыл бұрын
It’s all personal preference here and sometimes not being all that fast makes sense I mean bmw is all about refined power I don’t think brute force was bound to change that 😂
@G42Shady
@G42Shady 3 жыл бұрын
EWG can handle 650 on stock block, Wheel power. same as the B58
@KevinTorres-xc2sv
@KevinTorres-xc2sv Жыл бұрын
No it can’t it’s not forged
@G42Shady
@G42Shady Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTorres-xc2sv Lolwtf, B58's are cast, and they can do 750 on stock block, what are you smoking ?
@KevinTorres-xc2sv
@KevinTorres-xc2sv Жыл бұрын
@@G42Shady I was talking about the n55 dumbass lol
@G42Shady
@G42Shady Жыл бұрын
@@KevinTorres-xc2sv Both N55 and B58M0 are cast lol, what are you on about ? only the B58s in the supra are forged rods & crank
@dewanwahed7754
@dewanwahed7754 4 жыл бұрын
E series PWG n55s can hold more E85 (E50) than EWG (E30) cars stock.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
ive heard that as well, do you know why that is?
@MRBD18140
@MRBD18140 4 жыл бұрын
Simply Car Things I would like to know as well since I have a e92 n55 335i
@dewanwahed7754
@dewanwahed7754 4 жыл бұрын
​@@MRBD18140 If you car is built before 3/12 it can run up to e50 with stock hpfp. Its because those models share the same HPFP as the n54 did. Upgraded LPFP is still recommended
@NebuChadNezzarKBDN
@NebuChadNezzarKBDN 4 жыл бұрын
The reliability and sound of the n55 far outweighs the HP difference. Most people don't mod and try to squeeze out every ounce of hp from the turbos when they buy car anyway.
@SmerkeHD
@SmerkeHD 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever came across "Fuel Supply drivetrain malfunction", i need to fix my car :/
@S54VR6
@S54VR6 4 жыл бұрын
Been seeing a lot of n55 guys have rod bearing issues lately
@Areku06
@Areku06 4 жыл бұрын
That’s caused by OFHG not done properly, N55 engines are known to go over 200k miles, some have gone almost 300k, original turbo.
@thevernonposse
@thevernonposse 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking for a 2011 for a few weeks now and out of the 6 or 7 I’ve checked out 2 had rod knock I’ve been seeing it more and more
@Areku06
@Areku06 4 жыл бұрын
thevernonposse you sure it wasn’t vanos, n55 may have rod issues if people don’t follow oil priming procedure when changing oil filter housing gasket. Also long oil intervals doesn’t help.
@turbobmw6875
@turbobmw6875 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make 500 who on a n55 Reliably
@turbobmw6875
@turbobmw6875 2 жыл бұрын
Whp
@marcozuniga1186
@marcozuniga1186 3 жыл бұрын
N55 is a reliable and simple n54 that uses better tech to get same outcome with less. If you don’t mind everything breaking and you want over 600 whp then go ahead
@omarwalters4302
@omarwalters4302 4 жыл бұрын
You can retrofit the b58 HPFP for pretty cheap if you find them used under $500 or brand new for $1000. Also Spool Performance is coming out with a HPFP for the f series n55 for under $1000 and beta testing already looks promising. The release of the pump is said to be a few weeks away can't wait 🤗
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
Man that is so exciting to hear! and where can you find those B58 pumps?! that sounds like an awesome retrofit project
@omarwalters4302
@omarwalters4302 4 жыл бұрын
@@SimplyCarThings You can get them used on eBay or from a salvage yard look up the part number. BMW part #13517642466. The link attached is on how to retrofit the pump and the result www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56996
@alloutofdonuts3998
@alloutofdonuts3998 4 жыл бұрын
I like your vids, very informative. I kinda feel like I’m at a doctors office that is actually listening. I know that doesn’t make any sense to anyone other than me lol.
@SimplyCarThings
@SimplyCarThings 4 жыл бұрын
lol! glad you like them man, thanks for watching!
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