If you dont see the deception Trent is spitting you should become Catholic.

oh yes think about it. I was a protestant, then catholic then atheist now back to catholicism in a way I didnt expect it.

kyushen23 - please show me in the Jesus’ words in the Bible where he said the book is the only way! We have his words, verbatim in the Bible- he is God, and therefore omniscient, he would have known the Bible was coming some 400 years later. Why did he not instruct the apostles to compile this book and that the book would be the only ingredient and requirement to practice the faith? Why? You reject tradition, ok, so be it. So the Latin and Orthodox Churches are older and have apostolic succession, but you have it figured out? Why do you care, are Latin and Orthodox Catholicism a threat to you?

@Qwerty prayer is talking to someone.

@Qwerty rote repetition is not prayer.

As a catholic, sometimes its tiring being labeled such and such, and told time and time again that i should believe so and so when its not what catholics believe. I would like to evangelize others but sometimes i get fear coz while i might not be stoned to death like the christians of old, i might be called a whore of babylon or something. Imagining what the saints and martyrs went through, makes you think its a miracle that catholicism is still around for more than 2 thousand years. Its a testament to Christs promise not to abandon us that we persevere

@@markv1974 Moving

@@markv1974 the question is whether it is really 2000 years old. And that depends on whether the bible supports apostolic succession

@@Cafez27 why would that be a question. The Apostles proved it when they replaced Judas Iscariot with Matthias. Jesus never told them to do this but through the authority of the keys of the kingdom of Heaven, given to St. Peter and the Apostles, they filled the seat vacated by Judas. Not only did they replace him, but they established the method by which a new bishop is ordained, as well as priests and deacons.

@@jeffscully1347 Hi Jeff good to hear from you. Acts Chapter 1 from verse 16 onwards sets out the fulfilment of prophecy, and Peter goes to great length's to articulate this. The replacement of Judas is very specific to Judas who btw did an evil thing. All references are to 'his' i.e. Judas not other apostles. For example in verse 20 it reads "may another take HIS office" Neither Peter nor the other apostles mention anything about establishing this as a process for replacing apostles. I'm afraid this just a fact. It's a very specific, and Peter makes this point well, about the replacement of Judas as a fulfilment of prophecy. To read it any other way is to read things into this that just aren't there. It's pretty basic to be honest.

God bless you.

"before examining Catholicism " What in Catholicism first opened your eyes??

Hasn't been seen since then 😂​@@TruthHasSpoken

Isn't that what's required

I dont find him charitable at all. I think you can hear the resentment clearly in some of his comments. "oh, don't criticize him for saying papacy wrong"

on the same path.. please pray for me!

I know what the holy ghost said during the mass Pentecostal revivals of the 40s and 50s and 60s.... The holy ghost divorced the espoused apostate catholic church corrupted by her many fornications and adulteries which she has made the whole world drunk with....

@@dieselcowboy777 that wasn't the Holy Spirit talking to you, cowboy. How do I know? Because God is always faithful and never divorces His bride, no matter how unfaithful she is. Read the book of Hosea. Christ, the Bridegroom, was fond of quoting it in the Gospels. Stop listening to that voice that fooled you and return to the Truth.

@@illumoportetcresceremeaute887 Catholicism was an espoused church.....it was never married and never became his bride.... That's why when the holy ghost came a 2nd time during the mass Pentecostal revivals of the 40s and 50s and 60s.....it was to fulfill the marriage of the lamb and bride.... And the holy ghost found the espoused apostate catholic church corrupted by her many fornications and adulteries which she has made the whole world drunk with and divorced her.... Catholicism is devorced today and a total outcast to the economy of God.....plus the holy ghost rejected all trinitarian denominations and a few others.....they will never be bride.... The holy ghost already chose his bride during the mass Pentecostal revivals of the 40s and 50s and 60s and His bride is a small Pentecostal by experience non trinitarian church that baptizes in the name of Jesus Christ.... And all these trinitarian ministers claiming to be born again or the bride are a bunch of liars and deceivers....false annointed or false Christs ....workers of iniquity manifesting gifts and jesus christ will tell them you are not my bride

@@illumoportetcresceremeaute887 you are following satan if you are catholic....everything Catholicism teaches is a false misinterpretation of the word or lucifer preaching to you

Catholic theologians have discussed these same and more for hundreds of years. The internet is just now allowing us to find some of those answers pointing the way back to the catholic church. So many anti-catholic hit pieces by people who don't even understand the faith it seems as though they are influenced by the devil to help spread misinformation about the church Jesus set up. Makes a lot of sense to me. I don't think protestants won't be saved but as a Catholic, I'm confident the church is the truest way, though I've been told I'm going to H*LL many times because I am Catholic. Good luck and God bless in all your discoveries.

We have to be careful, though, when thinking about this. Truth doesn't get worse with age. It doesn't slowly become false. I agree with you, there is a lack of engagement with the primary resources on the part of Protestants, but that doesn't speak to the truth of what they are saying (or what the secondary scholarship is saying). After all, that is why academic scholarship exists. It is an attempt to analyze and synthesize truth and beliefs from primary sources. That's how society builds on the past, academically.

True

@Patz13 I guess you just didn't understand the conversation. The point was that the fact that the Protestant uses secondary sources doesn't speak to the truth. You have to ask yourself what I meant when I used the word "that" when I said: "...but that doesn't speak to the truth of what they are saying (or what the secondary scholarship is saying)." The word "that", there, refers to the antecedent clause "there is a lack of engagement with the primary resources on the part of Protestants". That means that it doesn't speak to the truth of the Protestants claim *in virtue of* the fact that it is from secondary sources, which it doesn't. This misunderstanding just underscores my point that we need to think carefully about these issues.

@Patz13 I don't need to deal with it, Patz13. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. You just are not understanding the conversation. I'm not talking about any particular point, or any particular secondary source, or whether any source is right or wrong, or whether anybody using such sources is right or wrong. What I'm talking about is the fact, indisputable fact, that using secondary sources is not an issue and has no part in determining the truth of any claim made on the basis of such sources or any claim made by such sources themselves. I sincerely hope you understand now so that you can stop being miffed over, and stop trying to correct people over, something you simply misunderstood. By the way, even though I am a Protestant, I'm not on the "Protestant side" here. I'm very Catholic friendly. I can honestly say that I desire to be a Catholic. I think Trent Horn is a better apologist than Mike. I like Mike, but I think that Trent is one of the top 5 Christian apologists today, at least that I know of. I also think that Mike Winger is often wrong, even on this topic. So, there we go, I hope that I've gotten everything out of the way that may be coming between us. Peace, my brother/sister (assuming you are a Christian).

@Patz13 *"No. You are the one who is not understanding the significance of the Protestant Pastor, who relies on incorrect secondary sources."* Again, the Protestant pastor has nothing to do with my point. I don't need to think about the Protestant pastor because I'm not talking about him. I'm only talking about the fact that a source is secondary having no relation to whether truth is found in it or not. If you can't understand that, then there is no point in continuing to talk to you. *"You can't deal with the incompetence of your Protestant heroes."* Mike's not a hero of mine. Again, I think Trent is more a hero of mine than Mike is. Your words here do not even interact with the points me and Joel made and, so, are pointless.

The Church is the pillar of Truth 1 Tim 3:15

The church didn’t “create the bible” so thats a stupid reason to accept Catholicism. And nobody is saying God is only limited to just whats in the bible. The whole point is that God has given his word,(scripture), so the only possible way you can confirm a claim by the church, is by referencing it to scripture. Not a “it is true because the church says so” type thing

The church was created after years of Jewish history and writing. Yeah, the church put the New Testament together but they didn't put the Bible together.

@Paul Peter Im guessing you payed 0 attention to the video and only came here to be annoying, so God Bless you but take your hatred somewhere else

@@andreslara2377 Exactly, great commentary.

@Paul Peter you understand Paul that all Protestant churches have their roots in the Catholic Church. When you say Satan governs the Catholic Church you're saying that you're Church came from Satan and his influence. No my friend all Protestant churches came from the mind of an excommunicated Catholic priest. If Satan was influencing anyone it would have been Martin Luther. Look what happened because of it we now have thousands of Protestant denominations each claiming they have the truth from scripture but each professing different Doctrine

@Paul Peter you used to be Catholic Paul? That's interesting and what Protestant denomination do you currently follow?

If bible is essential to Roman Catholic, but why then Roman Catholic deviates from the Bible, such as praying through the dead Saints, idolatry, purgatory, baptism, and many more?

Welcome home!!

Bowing down to christ to bowing down to Mary terrible transition

Praise God! I invite you to attend traditional latin mass

@@wanderingoutlaw2083 I guess actually researching what we believe is too hard for you

@@wanderingoutlaw2083false and nice way to welcome him!!!

Sage of Synergism Before I respond, how do you think the Catholic Church defines original sin?

Looks like he “doesnt care” about truth!

@@johnyang1420its because it doesn’t matter, what the church believed 500 years after jesus is irrelevant. What matter is what jesus taught. What matters is what scripture says. If the church contradicts scripture then the church is wrong. If christians 500 years or even 100 years after jesus, contradict scripture, than those christians are wrong

⁠@@rockstarburneWho do you think compiled the Scriptures? 😂

People from different churches, it wasn’t just the RCC. However, more important is what they wrote, who wrote it and who copied it. Again, the RCC didn’t write it, doesn’t hold to what was written, but they were part of the churches that copied it.

I did RCIA in 2019. I'm still trying to learn and there's SO much to learn. I feel like a toddler in my understanding of the Scriptures. So, I listen to these and they are definitely a good resource to start from. It gives you books and documents to go look at.

@@rjsuvakjr Exactly! I do still have Protestant friends and family and it’s a good stepping stone- while I believe and understand the faith, it’s another thing to have examples to defend it.

@@rjsuvakjr I did rcia in 2017/2018, was privately catechized later by a priest and I STILL feel like a toddler. The vast deposit and depth of the faith is both overwhelming and gloriously exciting. So much to learn.

@@DannaCat If you want the rituals Join RCC but if you want relationship with God Read your Bible and Ask God to explain the verses you read and you will be amaze how God works in everybody's life You do not need Mary to pray to God the Father but Jesus Christ!

@@childofgod4862sometimes I think protestants are more obsessed with Mary than Catholics, you can't wait to take away her power, so many protestants just have so many problems with her, and it really makes no sense for you to feel that way. Mary always only serves to magnify the Lord. She is the Mother of God, of course she is the most important fully human person that has ever lived. It's pretty clear that she was given the power to crush the head of the snake from her Son. I've seen the power of Mary first hand, as so many Catholics have. Just look to history at Guadalupe, where with one image of Mary, God was able to convert 10 million Aztec pagans to Christianity, sometimes we need that loving mother to guide her lost children back home. Christians spent 1500 years looking to Mary for intercession, it makes no sense that y'all refuse to humble yourselves before Mary now during these times when the world is lost more than ever. May God bless you and may our mother pray for you.

Ave Christus Rex Excellent point!

Ave Christus Rex The doctrine of Sola Scriptura allows us to appeal to other authorities, but it's are not to be the final authority, since Holy Scripture alone is infallible (2 Tim 3:16). Tradition as I know it to be is basically the Gospel as St. Paul states in his epistles and even specifically as St. Irenaeus and Tertullian what was to be the Apostles creed. What tradition consists of later on at the time of St. Athanasius if I'm correct doesn't contradict Holy Scripture, some of the practices are the sign of the cross.

@Zachary Trent So with what you have said, would you agree St. Irenaeus view of tradition as he described it to be as the Apostles Creed? It's basically the Gospel, it agrees with Scripture since it's derived from it. Also, tradition consists of customs and practices of the Church, which Scripture doesn't mention but it's not a huge deal.

@@reformedcatholic457 "The doctrine of Sola Scriptura allows us to appeal to other authorities, but it's are not to be the final authority, since Holy Scripture alone is infallible (2 Tim 3:16)." That's what Protestants claim, yes, and yet when you cite the unanimous tradition that baptism is how you become born again, that 'doesn't comport with Scripture.' You can't have Tradition judged by Scripture if it comes from the same persons. That's why it can't work. Tradition has equal authority because it came from the same authority: the apostles taught, and some wrote, some didn't. What was written was written with chosen words. But not all that was taught was written down. "Hold fast to the things which were handed on to you, whether taught orally or written in one of our epistles." What the apostles taught orally might not have - or may even have been - in the words chosen by God. However, their teaching on doctrine to the whole church is most certainly 100% infallible, true, and equally authoritative. Because it is "not the word of men, but the Word of God."

+Ave Christus Rex: Athanasius also used the Greek Septuagint which had the 7 Deuterocanonical books, so even if he taught sola Scriptura (which he didn't), protestants don't even have the right version.

I agree. I always find it beneficial to hear the iron sharpen iron in action.

@@MatthewGlover Check out this apologist. He is hysterical and incredibly informative kzfaq.info/love/_cZXWB6T4WRXyTZiyH_LDw

Read your Bible and that is sufficient and Pray to Father Through Jesus Christ There is NO Mary in Trinity Isn't Mary Dead? so why talk to a Dead person?

@@childofgod4862 You're insulting the Blessed Virign who gave birth to the one you confess as Lord and yet you have the gall to consider yourself a Christian? Do pay some attention to the video you're posting under and you might come to realize that you're gravely mistaken.

@@csongorarpad4670 My friend you did not read my Comment earlier? I said, Read your Bible Did Jesus called his Mother Mary Mother? No There is NOT a single mentioned about that Jesus is Creator of Mary and yet he came through her Just think critically now Our God created the Heaven and there our God chose to reside that means God made himself smaller than heaven And only that is the way our God can live in his created heaven Ok? My Lord Jesus said, to Mary "Woman" always! Just read when my Lord Jesus was in the temple and there comes Mary and his siblings > Mark 3:31-35 Answering them, He *said, “Who are My mother and My brothers?” Looking about at those who were sitting around Him, He *said, “Behold My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother.” Why did Jesus said, "Let my mother come inside" No Jesus did not say that So you know there is NO mother for Jesus Ok? Read your Bible Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I am" So read your Bible When you talk with Mary who is DEAD, it is called Deuteronomy 18 10-12 Necromancer = talking with dead This is same as you talk with your any DEAD family members. And my Bible does not teach me to pray to Mary in the first place Correct? She was a vessel for God and he job was done when she gave Him birth Ok? Think out of box my friend!

1) Can you clarify with examples? 2) Explain to me the Catholic concept of indulgences. 3) Nope! 4) It’s the only universal and apostolic church. 5) Even Martin Luther and Calvin couldn’t agree on the meaning of scripture passages so Sola scriptura (scripture alone) is easily debateable.

Sage of Synergism Sir. There is so much i could write but I just don’t have the energy right now and there is nothing I could say to change your mind on your view. I could quote documents, scriptures and church fathers but I don’t think it would matter. We should just stay united and fight modernism. God bless!

@@SterlingJames oh God, thank you. I was ready to call them all heretics and be done with it. Thank you brother for your example. I shall endeavor to turn the other cheek

Watch his full video. He’s well versed

You need to watch more than this fast forwarded version

He's extremely well-versed. He knows what he's talking about. There is really no point in anyone debating anything. Rarely does anyone convince others of their side of the issue.

@@joelfigueroa1309 no he's not he's a liar lol

@@madsheila4169 No he's is lying.

Stay Catholic.

You old fart get out of that satanic church..

Couldn't have put it better.

@@artgonzalez5629 and join your church that has a member like you who calls the elderly "old farts"? No thanks.

@@MW-eg4gu Biblically the church is the body of believers. The word does not instruct us to join or follow an institution to be saved. We are not told to listen to men in costumes performing rituals. Do not follow me or my church follow Christ. Do it now for the time is at hand.

If my false claims would have to refuted, I would like Trent to do it because he cares about his opponents and doesn't try ti humiliate them. You can see he knows his stuff.

Trent seems sincere but he is in a false religion spreading a perversion of the gospel. I urge anyone caught in this web of lies to read your bible. Just about every Catholic I know does not read the bible. Do not end up being one of them.

@@artgonzalez5629 do you really think we and Trent haven't read the Bible? is this serious opinion or just trolling?

@@artgonzalez5629 regarding your catholic friends: if they need to know the faith better, lead them to Trent's channel, thx

@@danielbarzay461 Yes, very few if any catholics and their priests read the bible. One of my lifelong Catholic friends who is treasurer of the knights of columbus told me the same thing you stated. I said ok I would like to attend a bible study with your church/priest. He then came back with our priests are too busy doing the sacraments to study the bible and our church does not offer adult bible studies. Very suspect right? Why dont they want the bible to be read? Just think please think and read the bible.

I just started RCIA classes...took me the whole of last year discerning. Just take it one step at a time. :-)

God bless you!

Joanna Berens the Roman. Arrojo. Birch is an institution created by men and run like an enterprise . It is not the true church. It is not the bride of Christ.

@@scubaoctopus That are assertions. You have to prove it! www.calledtocommunion.com/2019/10/does-the-devil-make-you-a-catholic/

@FaithHopeGrace To holy mother church, the church Jesus founded (mat 16,18).

That’s great biblical evidence

@@drycleanernick7603 Thanks Nick

Absolutely!!!’

If you read the bible, you'll see that time and time again, Israel's leaders let the people down. Instead of repenting and ritually cleansing the way God gave them through the priests and the temple, they repeatedly lead the people of God astray; adding to teachings false things, and even worshiping false gods. That's why God exiled them. The point is, we can't trust our leaders to always be correct or have the best for us in mind. That's obviously true even just studying the history of the Catholic Church. God knows our limitations, so He gave us HIS WORD so that we may know it, and know Him. He knows we may interpret some things wrong here and there... but His grace is enough to cover that, and may His Spirit correct us and guide us as we follow Him. "The Church" is the body of Christ. The body of Believers. If you are a believer, you have The Spirit, and God will reveal truth to you more and more as you seek it through His word. I know this firsthand. But if you sit back, and assume that the Catholic Church knows everything you need to know, so you'll just trust them, well, you will be lead astray, and you wont have the discernment or wisdom needed to even know that you're being lead astray.

Christian_Gamer_Guy How? If one "body of believers" believes that baptism is one thing and another "body of believers" believes that baptism is the complete opposite they both can't be right. Certainly Christ did not leave us orphaned to flounder around. Therefore as Christ teaches take it to the Church or in the worlds of Saint Paul the Church is the pillar and foundations of truth. With that said, the Church is not a hotel for saints but, a hospital for sinners. Yes, there are bad leaders that doesn't destroy the deposit of faith. Christ guaranteed that the gates of hell will not prevail that doesn't mean the gates of hell won't try. BTW, as human beings we always stress the negative and down play the positive. There are plenty of good leaders in our Church that I look too. Everyone looks at scripture through a lens as you just did. I just prefer to look through the lens as handed down through the centuries to us from Christ and the apostles.

@@2005wsoxfan "Certainly Christ did not leave us orphaned to flounder around." Right, we have been given the bible so that we may know what we need to know. "deposit of faith." Huh? "BTW, as human beings we always stress the negative and down play the positive." False doctrine that teaches about a Christ who's blood is not sufficient to cleanse us is pretty important to stress. " I just prefer to look through the lens as handed down through the centuries to us from Christ and the apostles." I prefer to look through the lens of scripture, and adjust my understanding of the difficult things in it as I continue to grow in knowledge and understanding of the easier to understand parts.

Christian_Gamer_Guy You are making a big assumption that of the false doctrine of Sola Scriptura. Where does the Bible teach the idea of we believe by the "bible alone"? If Jesus wanted us to believe by the Bible alone why didn't he write anything down? He doesn't even tell his disciples go forth and write manuscripts. Some do but not all. Luke and Mark are not one of the 12 why are they in the Bible? Who made that determination? There wasn't even a printing press for 1500 years after Christ. Bibles were laboriously hand written and very expensive. Very few Bibles were in private hands. It's Martin Luther that gave us Sola Scriptura a doctrine found nowhere in the Bible and a doctrine that has lead to over 50,000 denominations and splintering all claiming they have the correct interpretation of scripture. However I do see where scripture does point to the Church the very Church that collected, protected, canonized, and distributed and properly interpreted by her. For example, how do you know by the Bible alone that John wrote John or Mathew wrote Mathew. Likewise Luke or Mark. The only way we know is because the Church says so. How about the doctrine of the Trinity where is that explicitly taught in scripture? How about marriage between one man and one woman? Where's that in scripture? How about abortion? Where's that in scripture? Stem cell research? I can go on. I know abortion, polygamy etc is wrong because the Church says so. Did you even watch this?

Because when Protestants want the bible to mean something that it doesn't, they have to do Olympic level mental gymnastics and scriptural torture to make something mean what they want it to. They say "The Rock in Matthew 16:18 can mean ANYTHING but Peter."

@@sadsyndicate that’s what the papist do. Especially when it comes to heretical teachings such as “indulgences”

@@EchoToaster_ Indulgences is not heretical. A Heresy would be a contradiction to the bible or to church teaching

@@sadsyndicate contradictory to the Bible yes. So therefore it’s heretical.

@@EchoToaster_ Where does it say that in the bible

The lord started the Catholic church. You are not in it. Your choice.

Hi Fellow Filipino.

@@johnyang1420 what are you talking about

Thank you for being open to understanding us! People may not agree, but you should know what things mean in Catholicism and not from someone who does not know what the faith is (i.e., he is "interpreting" his own view of the faith).

I'm a Mormon but I love Catholicism. It's the foundation every Christian church stems from. It's not hyperbolic to say that Christianity is the foundation of the West and that Catholicism was the first brick.

Take RCIA

Welcome home 🥹 God bless you!!

Dear Steve, My name is Marcell and I am a cradle Roman Catholic. I am so humbled from your testimonie. I am so glade you are able to have all the sacraments and the holy communion. The holy Eucharist. Father Pio once said the earth can exist without the sun, but can't exist without the Holy Eucharist. In our times we need to protect the priesthood. Without the priesthood no Holy Eucharist. God bless you, your work and your family. Welcome to the faith. Welcome home.

I used to listen to mike winger and really took this video of his to heart. It wasn’t until pastor Francis Chan talked about his change on his view of the Eucharist. I couldn’t believe and after reading through much of church history and church fathers, i am now seriously considering becoming Catholic.

@@andrevaca6700 Suggest watching Dr Brant Pitre's video (or the book), Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist. Dr Pitre covers the Old Testament prefigurements of the New Testament fulfillment. Protestants going to a bible college, never hear of it, at least not that I've read or heard. Keep in mind, in the Eucharist, we receive the resurrected Christ, a means for receiving his Grace. How could ALL Christians have been wrong for 1500+ years? Also read the Catechism so that you know exactly what the Catholic Church teaches. RCIA, the class for those interested in joining the Church, is starting in the next couple of weeks in most parishes. God's blessings on your journey. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hppldat1t6eboIk.htmlsi=tf1LbV-gB6S8UoMk

God bless you.

Absolutely. The worst ones I believe just read the verses that confirm their bias and completely disregard the rest, especially the Gospels.

Scott Hahn has some really great videos where he talks about many of the same theological issues protestants struggle with on his channel St. Paul center.

That just sounds like intellectual laziness. Letting an organisation tell you what to think because you don't want to do it yourself.

@@EmberBright2077 so they are to come up with their own interpretation, then look for a church that meets all those criteria? or they should probably start their own church in the local community center. That is how you get many thousands of protestant denominations, and fractures all of Christianity just a little bit more. Your comment sounds so rude, Why are protestants so bitter? I don't think Jesus wants everyone to make up their own rules as they go along...that's why he made the catholic church.

Lean not on your own understanding, just let the Pope tell you what you should know. Just remember, that for hundreds of years they fought to keep the scriptures out of the hands of people who were not in the clergy.

@@sammcrae8892 Nonsense. Sacred Scripture was painstakingly hand-copied by monks for centuries. Bibles were therefore extremely rare and valuable, and possessed by the clergy who created them and the very wealthy who could afford to buy them. Most people in the world were illiterate, anyway, so what would they have done with a Book? For most of Church history, the Faith was preserved and propagated by oral tradition and audiovisuals such as hymns, stained glass windows, statues, icons, Nativity scenes and the Passion re-enactment.

@@Psalm34rws You need to be born again to have discernment while reading the bible. Based on your response it is CLEAR you do not have this. You are being led astray by what the bible calls doctrines of demons." I urge to get on your knees repent and ask the father to draw you closer to the son. He is the way the truth and the life.

@@Psalm34rws Roger, now now let's not act like a typical Catholic with personal attacks and name calling. You are better than that. No, NO MAN past, present or in the near future has every interpreted the bible all the time correctly. You don't understand '"sola scriptura." It accepts other sources as long as they line up with the bible. Basically, we believe the bible is sufficient. Read Acts. You will see the apostles clearly had disagreements. They even disagreed on who was their leader. My question to you is were the Apostles SAVED because they disagreed on the non-essentials?

@PACOIMARACER Let's see... I'm saved by grace through faith in the perfect atoning sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus. I go to the nations with the power of the Holy Spirit and the authority of Jesus to make disciples, baptize, and teach people to obey the commands of Jesus. Yep... definitely a heretic.

@@Psalm34rws Jesus, in His final moments on earth reminded us that He had all authority in heaven and earth. In this authority, He sent us out to do our most important responsibility until His return. Namely, preach the Gospel to all nations, make disciples of those who believe, baptize them, and teach them to obey the commands of Jesus. This commission was given to individuals. At that time, there was no church, pastor, or priest. It is the responsibility of all those who follow Jesus to do these things, and according to Ephesians 4:11-12 the church and its leadership are responsible to train and equip people to do these great works. Isn't it sad that most believers have taken the authority given to each individual follower by Jesus and handed that authority over to the church. Most of those who call themselves a follower of Jesus will in fact never make a disciple, baptize, or teach obedience. I'm afraid the Roman Catholic Church (and many protestant churches as well) is doing nothing to equip most people to fulfill the Great commission of Jesus.

@@Psalm34rws Hey brother. Matthew 28:18-20 and Acts 1:6-8. Jesus gave his Great Commission to all believers. Based on Matthew 28:17 we know that there were definitely others in attendance besides the 11. There was no church, no presbyter, no priest. In fact there is only one example in the book of Acts where we know who GAVE baptism. Acts 8 shows that Philip, a non-apostle, a non-priest, a non-pastor gave baptism. Try to find one other example in Acts where you see the name of the person who gave baptism. By the way, there were 120 believers who received the Holy Spirit at Pentacost. Among these were both men and women. Very few of them went on to have any official leadership position in the church. Your claim that there are "Holy Orders" to go out and do EV, discipleship, and church planting is absolutely unfounded in the Bible. I am afraid that is a Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And I am sorry that you have given your God-given authority to the church.

Jacob “when you pray, say: Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope.” Something Jesus didn’t say either.

Well according to sound protestant doctrine I can interpret scripture anyway I want since there is no instructions on how to do it. Oh you don't agree with my interpretation., well too bad.

@@jacobschuler2591 No, you use the clear scripture to interpret the unclear passages. The reason you have Catholicism, is because people did what you proposed in jest. They scripture and just took things out of context and it's snowballed into the Roman Catholic Church. And now, when Catholic Doctrine doesn't agree with scripture, it doesn't matter to the catholic church, because the catholic church is really the authority... that's no way to treat God's word. The Catholic person that truly knows the Bible should not remain a Catholic for long.

Where does it say in the bible that you have to "know" the bible? It literally has to spell that out for it to be a truth.

Hey guys, can I first say that Protestants and Catholics are not at war; we actually have much in common. I also think it’s helpful and healthy to find some humor in ourselves. Would you both agree? As a Protestant I agree with Trent and find it funny/ironic that many of Mike’s comments could also refute his own stance as Trent pointed out. I must also admit the humor I found in your question “where does it say...” since your position appears to be on the side that you don’t need to know the Bible. It only makes sense that someone arguing against “sola scriptura” would ask that question. I apologize, but I had to laugh out loud at the irony... you have to agree it was cute. All joking aside, I’ll give you 3 passages to read. There are many passages that both Catholic and Protestant biblical scholars could give you, but if you read Psalm 119:11, 2 Timothy 2:15, and Acts 17:11 you will find purpose, approval and nobility in studying and knowing God’s Word. Lastly, many Protestants don’t have a problem with Peter’s position among the apostles and they often refer to his sermon on the day of Pentecost found in Acts 2. I also find it funny yet encouraging that a lowly fisherman like Peter would preach a sermon so strongly based upon scriptural prophecy from Isaiah 44, Joel 2 and Psalms 110, as well as, from John the Baptist’s preaching “repent and be baptized for the remission of sins” found in verse 38. I pray that you find wisdom in the scriptures that will give you firm reason and foundation for your faith and testimony to others. May God richly bless and keep you strong in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

Congratulations you Can loose your salvation over and over again. Great.

So you’ve only been married to one woman?

@@CPATuttle I married one woman twice when I was young. I just recently remarried.

@@FullDottle This doesn't pend on you becoming Catholic or not. In the Catholic church God still considers you married to your wife, even though you could have been divorced through civil law. You can be catholic and attend mass regardless. You only need to go to RCIA to be confirmed to get the Eucharist. The Catholic church is the one true Church Jesus started. I would encourage you call into Catholic Answers and ask your questions. They are live daily in the afternoon/evenings

@@CPATuttle I agree on the Church but as to the marriage, I will need an annulment to take Eucharist?

It's interesting that you call Catholicism "other religions". I agree, it is not Christianity. Where, exactly, did Mike say something that was untrue? Because this video sure doesn't reveal that.

@@christian_gamer_guy6447 Prove it. You can't? OK.

Take RCIA

@@elijahyoung11 i dont think he can...because its good!

@@norakotze6610 actually Trent did it. Hope you watched it.

Yes let's see that

@@norakotze6610 big yikes

Your wish has been granted

Yet we see some examples of those who spoke against the authority of Moses as well, including Korah, who thought to make all the Levites equal to Moses, or Aaron, who stood together with Miriam when she criticized Moses for his wife, the same things which Paul was doing. In the old covenant, you have prefigurements, the shadow of things to come. Yet only in the Catholic Church do you have every reality of every thing that could cast a shadow. Not so in non Catholic denominations. Was there not a high priest in the old covenant? Why does anyone see this as something new? Who else was drawn from the water, as Moses was if not Peter, after he walked over the waves in the storm? Drawn out not by a woman, but by Christ himself. In Daniel you have the rock which was hewn out of the mountain, which struck the idol of the nations. It was not carved out by human hands, just as Peter was not established by mere human authority. Who was given the law? Who went up the mountain? In all of these, Peter was shown to have done the same, even up to being crucified, inverted, displayed as a reflection of what was seen above. And Paul, like the Baptist, became lesser by the same means of beheading. In Catholicism there is not one thing missing as a counterpart of the Law, including the tabernacle, as Mary, who the Protestants are woefully blind to.

God bless you! I came home to Catholic church in 1996. Check out book Why We Are Catholic by Trent Horn.

It comes up because people do not want to submit fully to Christ... which is all of Christ including his Church.. humility is everything

@@concrete3030 That doesnt quite do it for me. It seems more like they are mutually exclusive texts that can't be reconciled..which I'm fine with actually. I dont believe the Bible is infallible so contradictions dont faze me

Try RCIA

@@thuscomeguerriero I would think strengthening your brother is serving them at 1 Of the highest levels.

I truly hope so. The problem is that some Protestants struggle to accept truth, not because of the intellectual problems with Catholicism, but because they rely on their denominations and churches for money, they're worried about their family life, or are too attached to their presuppositions and emotional dispositions.

his ego might be too big to face opposition, seen the way he talks on Catholicism is with holier-than eyes

The pastor is so full of himself he would not benefit from watching the rebuttal. Jesus said something about this in Matthew 11:25.

You are all full of hate towards pastor Mike, because it hurts to see him speak the truth. You keep blaming him, without having the slightest idea if he watched the video or not

@@EnHacore1 Mike Winger speaks zero truth. He probably knows he is wrong but doesnt have the cajones to admit it.

@Qwerty But influential as communists

@@paradisecityX0 I know you wanna get content material bro lol. But Winger needs to be called out and Capturing Christianity, Whaddo you meme, IP, Trinity Radio and the rest of the crowd are already going after atheists.

@@paradisecityX0 btw keep up the good work. Still hoping for a Classical Theist interview to happen lol

@@lucdubras It might happen

@@paradisecityX0 guys check Pat also kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9R0YLx81quyYnk.html

I think demonic influence is strong in the misinformation world against the Catholic Church. Martin Luther probably started it by leaving the door open.

He doesn't rebut anything but his own statements. Mike says "does this passage (John 21:15-17) say Jesus made Peter the leader of all the Apostles and answers No" Trent responds: "Mike says this passage teaches Peter had [special] authority. That's the doctrine of the papacy." That's not what Mike said. How is claiming someone said the exact opposite of what they said and responding to your own fake argument rebutting them?

@@patmosisle7166 Trent has to ignore what's actually said because they're is no rebutting clear teaching from scripture.

4 years later and he hasn’t and he never will because he knows he’s a liar and Trent will wipe the floor with him.

the successors must be forever maintain ... as for david to joseph and to peter onwards

Why did god wait 2000 years to send the messiah

@@kbaptiste28 What should've been the cut off date according to you?

@@kbaptiste28 God has all the time in the world to do whatever He wants. Our ways are not His ways. Isaiah 55: 8-9.

It’s heretical

do not disrespect the Holy Spirit ... for it is committing eternal sin.

James M is right!

So only Mike Winger has the Holy Spirit?

GardenLady; My friend all you have to do is, read your Bible day and night and meditate over it Church will not give you answers You ask God directly and keep reading and listening to different people and God will tell you which one is correct If you read the history of Popes, how they prostituting the church in ancient time and begetting children, you will be ashamed to read it. Now Read your Bible it says Jesus is our Savior and Jesus Christ told us to Pray to the Father in my (Jesus') Name And read the Revelation 17 THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH

@@childofgod4862 You make my point. Thank you. Many people, many Bibles...many Gods? If it were as easy as you explain, God would tell each person the same thing, thus eliminating the need for 40,000 different churches disputing what God told each of them.

@@gardenladyjimenez1257 These different denomination churches comes up because of different doctrine people believe RCC is run by Elite Go listen to recent Pope who make outrages statements about our Bible Read Revelation chapter 17 THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH Who is this? Compare the whole chapter with RCC God bless you!

Exactly! Amen!

By that logic, you have decided that you are an authority above everyone else to interpret that God exists.

Mike Winger has zero authority! Only Catholic church has authority! Mike is just a guy with an opinion about the bible!

Can you clarify you assertion?

@@kadeshswanson3991 The Apostolic and Ante-Nicene Fathers added many traditions and beliefs in the second, third centuries. Example: Ignatius taught that Mary was "ever-virgin." They changed the way a reunion service was conducted. Ignatius made sure they had an "altar and a cup." One single bishop to head the church instead of several. I can go on and on.

Rome was given primacy of honour as the place of St. Peter (and St. Paul's) martyrdom. Antioch and Alexandria lost their places of honour after the Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) when they rejected the Hypostatic Union of Christ (two natures-fully human and fully Divine) in favour of the false monophysite teaching. Check out my playlist called "Truth of Catholicism vs all other heresies"

Peter established a see in Antioch before establishing a see in Rome where he died. So Rome was the last see Peter established and because he died there the bishops of rome became the successors of Peter.

Peter was Bishop of Antioch AND Rome. According to St. Jerome, Peter was Bishop of Rome for 25 years (over 1/3 of his life). But it doesn't matter the location, what matters is the person, Peter. Peter is given the authority, not Rome. He set up Evodius as the new Bishop of Antioch when he left Antioch for Rome, but Evodius was not his literal successor because Peter at that time was still alive. When Peter died, he was succeeded by Linus, and so on, through the apostolic succession of the Church of Rome.

@@Vezmus1337 well if we are on the topic of sees, the maronite catholic church is from the atiochene see and coptic catholic church is from the alexendrian, the melkotes are constantinopolitan. We are all catholics. Kinda weird when protestants talk about the “roman” catholic church as if every catholic is roman. Im asian, i have european ancestry but theyre greeks and im latin rite. And not all popes were romans, he had seven syrian popes and around 11 greek/byzantine popes. Kinda weird, its not where peter was bishop, its where peter passed on his office

Yeah I have the impression that he does not want to admit anything. But I bet when he saw all this info about Mary he was speechless

​@Qwerty If Jesus alone isn't enough, why do I need the roman church and it's traditions? Isn't a full trust of Christ alone enough for eternal life? Or, it is Christ plus other stuff is being required?

@Qwerty So instead of responding to my question you just insult me? If I'm wrong, then correct me, I'm always open to learn. From your world view, which I can only assume is from a roman catholic perspective, conciliation with God, Is it by Jesus alone, or Jesus +.

@Qwerty Firstly, thanks for pointing out I said disrespectfully, I meant respectfully, but this is what happens when you watch youtube at 1 am, my apologies. Let's keep name calling out of it, ad hominems aren't an argument. To your first response, yes, I am learning about it, that's why I listened to the talk, because I like to hear all sides of a debate, so I can learn. Do I believe we have a license to sin? No. If I had that attitude I wouldn't love Christ. "If you love me, you'll keep my commandments." Anyone who's a follower of Christ, who's believed and been reconciled through faith, has a new self, and doesn't want to keep on sinning, out of love for Christ and a desire for righteousness. 1 John 3 and many of Paul's letters are extremely clear in his letter's, since we've been freed from, then we shouldn't be living in or practicing sin. Do I think the Bible is necessary. Yes. How else do we come to know God? If I want to know him, I want to know what he said, and what others said about him. We test truth with scripture as the foundation. Also I never said the sacraments arn't needed, Baptism, the Eucharist, these are Biblical and we are commanded by God to do so. My question again, asking a presumably catholic, I am a sinner, what must I do to be saved?

@Qwerty Thanks for responding, see I would agree, to a certain extent. But see, this is my issue, "sacramentally ordained priests that administer the sacrament, (body and blood of Christ.) So now there's a man, that I have to get through, to come to Christ. Now I have to seek the approval of men in order to receive full salvation. That might seem like a small thing, but it's not the gospel and Paul warns us about that. When the jailer in Acts 16: 30 asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” In Ephesians 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise. Or Romans 10:9 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. Baptism, communion, fellowship with other believers, these are responses from obedience Because we are saved, not to be saved. No practice or tradition can make us reconsidered to God, only faith in Christ. The thief on the cross, neither baptized nor took communion, but recognized who Jesus was, repented of his sins, and called Jesus his Lord. Jesus in turn promises him paradise, that day. That is the faith that was once and for all delivered to the saints. It's saying I am incomparable of reconciling myself to God, that's only something God did himself, and finished it on the cross. The early Roman church was a blessing, as were the early fathers, but believe it went astray, and the Roman church began preaching a different gospel and focused on man made traditions more than God's truth.

@@LightoverDarkMinistry You seemed confused. Ill give you two analogy to differentiate Redemption from Salvation. Jesus died for all men this is redemption, he redeemed the world. do you agree? If you agree that REDEMPTION IS FOR ALL then we move on and i have a another question. Supposed there are only 2 types of people on earth, sinners and true christians. Since Jesus redeemed the world, are the two type of people going to be saved or is it only the christians? I guess you would say that the christians would be save but not the sinners.. So what DID THE CHRISTIANS DO TO BE SAVED? What WORK DID THEY DO TO BE SAVED? They must have done something in order to be saved, right? So in this essence, even though redemption is for all, salvation is a choice each person has to make. Now here is another analogy that best explains eph 2:8-10. Supposed am God and you are a man.. Am good and because I love you i will give you a gift..lets call this gift eternal life..you dont have to do anything to earn it, it is a gift from me to you. But you still have to trust me for you to open your hand to accept that gift, right? You believe in me and then you open your hand is work! This is called faith and baptism, the initial stage of salvation process And for this gift to be in your hand always, you have to keep holding it..holding is a work..you have to keep working because now you are created in Jesus to do good works or you can just throw that gift away by commiting mortal sins because you dont want to hold it anymore, with that you have just thrown the gift of eternal life. But then you realized you really wanted that gift and ask me to give it back to you..this is reconciliation or confession. Through the course of your life by your own freewill you ask me to give you the gift, and you also throw it away time and again. But of course there will come a time that i will have enough of what you are doing so I will just respect whatever you want, if you want the gift in your hand or not, i will respect that. When will that be? On the day of your death, judgement will come..if you are holding the gift of eternal life when you die, that gift will be yours forever or if you have thrown your gift when you die, you have lost it forever. Does any of what I said make sense???

Hi tim. Basically St. joseph who is way way much older than Mother Mary was chosen by God to be her protector. What do you think ancient Israel would do to a woman who getz pregnant out of wedlock? Your guess is as good as mine,she might be stoned to death for being an adulterer. Who would believe she got impregnated by the Holy Spirit? No one! So God chose a good man in St. Joseph to protect both the dignity and life of Mary.

Save her life. I mean the penalty for adultery was stoning to death. Imagine God sending his only son and then before he was born, his mom was stoned to death. And if the woman to bear The son of God was not a virgin, imagine being baby jesus in the womb with little tandpoles swimming by. Semen (for lack of a better term) was ritually unclean. Try thinking about how youre gonna have the messiah delivered on earth and you’d realize God was brilliant on this one. I cant see a more effective alternative

@@markv1974 Can you please explain to me why it appears listed that Mary had other children later? I am honestly curious what the explanation in the Rcc is on some confusing verses that sound as if Jesus had a brother.

@@beant.6360 in ancient hebrew and aramaic, there was no word for cousins or any other relative, therefore, all male cousins are referred to as “brothers”, and female cousins are “sisters”. Protestants make an error of assuming that cultural norms in the bible are the same as european norms. Therefore, when you say brothers of jesus, they are in fact, cousins of Jesus. Also mary has a sister also named mary. Mary was a very common name. Example mary the wife of zebedee. In malayo polynesian languages, we dont distinguish between male and female, and our language doesnt have a gender case. A child, regardless of sex is called anak. Etc.

Try RCIA

@Sage of Synergism Let go of your pride. Ray Comfort is a false teacher. He uses his own personal interpretation of scripture to twist it completely out of *context* . He has little to no understanding of Judaism or the time of Christ and couldn't tell "fact" from a "truth". You don't just pick up a Bible, originally composed and translated by the Church in an ancient time and act like you completely understand what's going on. Yes, it's clear and incredible for a collection of ancient and divinely inspired documents, but you don't think the same way as the early Church did. How little faith Protestants have in the power of Christ to scorn his very own Church, and even the very presence of Christ at his weekly banquet. I pray to the Lord, that he rains grace upon your soul and you choose to open your eyes to the truth. God Bless.

@Sage of Synergism Have you actually even watched the videos that Trent has put up? Why would you rather maintain the views you hold? Because they are true according to divine reason, or because they are your views and you have too much pride in your false teachings? I claim that it is because they are according to your psychological predispositions. It's no different than someone, presenting valid arguments, failing to convert an atheist. It's not a problem of the intellect, but of the will. Rebut the facts, or don't comment here and spread your false teachings and teachers.

@Sage of Synergism Why do you believe in the Trinity? It's a dogma of the Church, but it's not explicitly stated in the Bible? You're riding on the coattails of the One True Church. Who translated and compiled the Bible? the One True Church. Truth leads to, and from, Christ and his Church.

@Sage of Synergism Lent and the Sign of the Cross are compliments to the Bible. They're for worship, penance, and sacrifice and lent is an important period leading up to the ultimate sacrifice and resurrection. It's GOOD for us and glorifies God. Just like how they practiced fasting and other traditions in biblical times...something doesn't have to be explicitly stated to be a valuable part of the faith. Idk what you mean by Francis. And not everything he does is infallible, only very specific things a Pope does are infallible. And lastly, we do still give indulgences but many misunderstand them.

Sage of Synergism There is much difference between what is dogma (that part of doctrine which has been divinely revealed and which the Church has formally defined and declared to be believed as revealed), doctrine (all Church teaching in matters of faith and morals - unchangeable) and discipline (instruction, system of teaching or of law, given under the authority of the Church [which] can be changed with the approval of proper authority-changeable). It’s really obvious that you have no understanding of the difference. It all matters and is why Jesus instituted His Church and gave the apostles the authority over it rather than telling people they could interpret the teachings for themselves. The observance of Lent is a discipline in remembrance of the 40 days Jesus spent in the desert praying. It is in preparation for, and observance of, the “Passion of Christ” - His suffering, death and resurrection. Catholics are not the only ones who practice this. As for the sign of the cross, this article gives the history of it dating back to before the Bible was put together. catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-the-origin-of-the-sign-of-the-cross/

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@@alexhage8092 Yeah, Trent is pretty ignorant.

@@christian_gamer_guy6447 No need to be rude. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless you.

@@Lena-sk5xh To be fair, I was being silly, pretending that the OP was saying the opposite of what he was. I don't think Trent is ignorant, I think it's worse than that. I think Trent is knowingly teaching false things. If he's read God's word (and I'm sure he has), then he should know better. He seems to be ok with intentionally twisting scripture/truth so that things fit within his worldview, instead of allowing truth to change his world view. He then puts himself under more judgement and teaches others his twisting, that they might be led astray. He might not be consciously deceiving people on purpose, but the result is the same. This is why we have God's word and His Holy Spirit within us so that we can check our teachers and know whether or not they are sound.

You wont get an answer. They use the word traditions to justify their unbiblical doctrine and practices. God said not to make and bow befor graven(engraved, carved) images. The CC makes and serves graven images and call that a tradition that was passed down by Jesus. But they wont co0me out and say it.

Very little of Mike wingers stuff is on Catholicism, you obviously didn't actually look at his channel.

Because Mike Winger is lame.

Coz orthodox would just ignore them and fellow protestant will just fly with wind?

Most likely the married but living with your spouse not sexually, like a sister. Especially because care of children are at odds with being a bishop, or worse, an apostle. See 1 Cor 7.

Here’s a good explanation: www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-biblical-blueprint-for-the-priesthood

Nick Landry...Well Said!

@@jamescorbett8261 then why do you pray “Hail Mary full of Grace”? Grace is only given by God through Jesus Christ, not Mary. It is Jesus who is full of Grace and we should Hail the King of Kings. If you personally believe that Jesus is where the buck stops on salvation, then that is great. However that’s not what the Catholic Church teaches as is evident in the prayers they give to Mary and the doctrines of Sacriment. When John the Apostle gives us a vision of the throne room of God in Revelation, Mary is not there. Jesus is there with the Father and the Spirit. 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

To the Father through the Son. To the Son through His Mother.

@@nicklandry8019 The Gospel of Luke. The Archangel Gabriel greeted Mary with the salutation, “Hail, full of grace” (Luke 1:28). She was filled with God-given grace, and it is He Who exalts Her. Mary is not divine, nor is She a part of the Holy Trinity; however, She has a singularly unique relationship with the Trinity: She is Daughter of the Father, Mother of the Son, and Spouse of the Holy Spirit. Mary’s role, in both Her earthly life and in eternity, could best be described as that of a Queen Mother. In Old Testament times, a Queen Mother possessed considerable power and stature within the kingdom. A Jewish king had many wives, but only one mother, who acted as his chief counselor. Mary, as the Mother of the King of Kings, was no different.

I think he did but Mike wanted nothing to do with it. And for good reason.

Yes. Something similar to what Bishop Barron and William Lane Craig did.

I think mike refused

Mike is scared