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Why China Couldn’t Make a Ballpoint Pen Until 2017

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@Bk6346
@Bk6346 Жыл бұрын
They were imported from Germany and Japan so there no need to innovate. It was the government of China that forced the manufacturers to develop the ballpoint pen.
@ninepointsix_mug9392
@ninepointsix_mug9392 Жыл бұрын
1:58 I can’t agree more. As a Chinese, I always use ballpoint pens like Bic or Schneider ones, with beloved viscous ballpoint ink. Those ballpoint pens work WAY MORE THAN perfectly. However, all my classmates, in middle school or in university, use KNOCKOFF gel pens. As a pen aficionado, I can’t figure out which part of those knockoffs causes them not to work but I assume it’s the sockets. 0.5mm points are harder to make than 1.0-plus I’ve been using, and they just make those 0.5mm ones with worse technology.
@GreyerShade
@GreyerShade Жыл бұрын
Ive dealt with the Chinese academically and in business and they're a drone hivemind. Some of them literally lack ALL CAPACITY for imaginative thought. Their manufacturing is unreal. Give them the parts and they can crank our billions of them 24/7. But hand them a blank sheet and ask them ti design something brand new and its very difficult for many of them. No incentives for original thought as a drone. The collective frowns on ANYONE who thinks outside the box. Were on the 3rd-4th generation of drone. Imagination and expression are important for a reason. Communism/socialism chokes that out of humans.
@s.k634
@s.k634 Жыл бұрын
Crap.
@GreyerShade
@GreyerShade Жыл бұрын
@@s.k634 Well now that you've put it that way, Ive reevaluated all my opinions of the Chinese! 😂 Never has a reply been so ironic! "Crap!" 😂 🤣
@s.k634
@s.k634 Жыл бұрын
@@GreyerShade you and your opinions are garbage
@GreyerShade
@GreyerShade Жыл бұрын
@@s.k634 Sorry Karen, but I didn't ask for your opinion. I stated what my experience has been. And if you dont like it, thats just tough shït. 🖕
@Bk6346
@Bk6346 Жыл бұрын
You’re idiot making a stereotype comment and chances are that very few people will see the comment other than you. So give yourself a pat on the back for your clever comment. “WIPO administers the WIPO-administered Hague System for the International Registration of Industrial Designs. In 2015, the US linked its design patent system with Hague - this gives U.S. designers easier access to global design rights; and non-U.S. applicants easier access to the U.S. market. This week, China announced that it is also joining the system. Even without being part of Hague, IP offices around the globe have received huge increases in Chinese -origin industrial design applications. For instance, 55% of global design applications filed in 2020 were by Chinese residents.”
@charleskwok8
@charleskwok8 Жыл бұрын
I know commenting here is going to get me nothing but attacks. But twisting partial truth into smearing campaign only proves that this video either: 1. Didn't bother to do any research, just regurgitate something that has been circulating on the web 2. Intentionally mislead viewers because such topics attract attention and therefore view counts Yes, manufacturing ball point tip roller ball is a high precision process that China was unable to do so decades ago, therefore China had to import it. When China finally had the capability to manufacture it, it was in fact the free market capitalism that determined not to develop the technology and manufacturing processes to produce it domestically, because the investment overhead will cost so much (remember it really is a high precision manufacturing process ) profit margin so thin and the product costs so little to import that it is impractical to do so from free market capitalism point of view. So some media outlet picked up on this and started to say China is so backward that they can't produce a ball point tip roller ball. This "piece of news" got spread in China and the Chinese people became outrage that China was so lousy. Some felt insulted while others felt ashamed, some even blame the political system for China being such a failure. When Beijing caught wind of this online outrage, it became a national pride project instead of market freedom. The central government decided that this must be produced domestically regardless of the cost. Like the video said, it was done successfully. But now the overseas producers are not happy, because China is able to produce it in lower cost and even better in quality, they lost the huge China market and their global market share has shrunk dramatically, due to the awakening of the sleeping giant of a competitor. Well, they have the western media who simply wanted to insult China to thank for. Whatever version you want to believe is up to you. Wisdom tells us to view everything from all sides before making any judgement. Thank you for reading thus far.
@vgkk5637
@vgkk5637 Жыл бұрын
we understand your point. CCP told you to counter so you are doing it..😛
@charleskwok8
@charleskwok8 Жыл бұрын
@@vgkk5637 sure, thanks for reading anyway. It's your freedom to choose what to believe, and I have no right to challenge your choice.
@RobinTheBot
@RobinTheBot Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I couldn't even begin to put those thoughts to words, but it's the first thing that came to mind. China has many serious problems... Subhuman levels of stupidity are not one of them.
@thomaskim3128
@thomaskim3128 Жыл бұрын
After watching this anti China propaganda piece, the question you should ask: how many other countries can make ball pen tips? Exactly. Sometimes the simplest things are hardest to make.
@robertbrandywine
@robertbrandywine Жыл бұрын
Your version sounds much more believable.
@gunsroses1293
@gunsroses1293 Жыл бұрын
The reason why no one in China is willing to develop ballpoint pen refills is very simple. Its market is too small, and the profits cannot cover the R&D investment, so it is better to buy them directly.
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonym8395 there's basically one company that dominates the high end chip manufacture at the moment ASML. tell me why this is considering that there are huge profits to be had. WHy has the US not got the capacity to make their own machinery for making the chips? Dumbass. It's often cheaper and more efficient to import the parts obviously.
@Emoechaiti
@Emoechaiti 6 ай бұрын
2:48 by this logic USA should have been the largest producer of ball point pens lol
@fairallni
@fairallni Жыл бұрын
I love this channel!
@Crazytesseract
@Crazytesseract Жыл бұрын
But why???????
@ppazpppaz8618
@ppazpppaz8618 Жыл бұрын
What a crap website, there is only a handful of countries that can make ball point pens, and you guessed it, most countries that can't make ball point pens are capitalist.
@Crazytesseract
@Crazytesseract Жыл бұрын
It is ballpoint pen tips plus balls, not the pens.
@ppazpppaz8618
@ppazpppaz8618 Жыл бұрын
@@Crazytesseract Intriguing.
@AbidKhan-lr5wb
@AbidKhan-lr5wb Жыл бұрын
Interesting and enlightening 👌🏻👍🏻😊
@SundayMatinee
@SundayMatinee Жыл бұрын
From the standpoint of dictators and oligarchies, the problem with giving the power to the people is that it gives the power to the people.
@AncientRylanor69
@AncientRylanor69 3 ай бұрын
Axlotl Tank
@explodingwolfgaming8024
@explodingwolfgaming8024 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@musafawundu6718
@musafawundu6718 10 ай бұрын
Following the logic of prioritizing the market isn't always the best thing...
@gamer7916
@gamer7916 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how videos like this make it seem like everyone else can make ballpoint pen and China’s the only country that can’t until recently. The reality is now China is one of the three countries, along with Switzerland and Japan, who are capable of making these from scratch. Not even the US can make ballpoint pen heads.
@wampastompastomp
@wampastompastomp 8 ай бұрын
that's because this guy is a dumbass. You really think this single guy knows the "whys" to a dozen different topics and is able to condense them to a few minutes each? The guy's an asshat. His whole channel feels like a middle school presentation on current topics, except it's done by a bearded grown-ass politician.
@Mayangone
@Mayangone Жыл бұрын
I remember using GSA issued ball pens. They were terrible. Ink flooded the ball and smeared all over.
@benthurber5363
@benthurber5363 Жыл бұрын
1- How do we know they actually did it and not just rebranded the German ones? 2- The technical know-how to build such insanely precise parts does, indeed, take years to develop. 3- That development is completely wasted if not immediately transfered over to developing ballbearings. (A thing that is *actually* critical to a country's production and maintenance, and has no substitute like a pencil.) 4- Only for an authoritarian regime did this represent any real problem that needed to be "solved." No one in the rest of the world particularly cared until the CCP pointed out their own insecurity over it. Then we jumped on it like a pack of dogs on a 3-legged cat, because the CCP has earned the world's derision.) So, I have no idea how much money the Chinese government threw at this in order to fix this embarrassment, but it represents another misallocation of capital. The numbers I have to work with say they make 38 billion pens a year and that the savings would be $17.3M a year... that's a savings of $0.00046 per unit... Yes, less than one-half, of one-tenth, of. One. Cent. Per. Pen. Think I'll pay an extra penny for the German tips, thank you.
@pawoon
@pawoon Жыл бұрын
We Chinese are smarter than you caucasians. After all, 60 percent of all human knowledge and inventions came out of China. Paper, gunpowder, silk, porcelain, crossbow, steel, etc.
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Жыл бұрын
there's only 4 countries in the world now that can make the actuall ball, germany, switzerland, japan and now china, wtf are you talking about. The US cant even do it.
@leeo268
@leeo268 Жыл бұрын
Actually free market capitalism would not have encourage the development of that tech because import of much cheaper. CCP prioritize it because of National strategic interest and subsidize the research development cost.
@jokerswild5485
@jokerswild5485 Жыл бұрын
Really? Than how come countries with free markets have the best technology? Free market promote competition and that promotes innovation. There is no reason to put in the effort when you know that you don't have control over your life or business or your decisions and you know that your government can take it all away whenever it wants. Just look at what happened to Jack Ma.
@charleskwok8
@charleskwok8 Жыл бұрын
@@jokerswild5485 So what happened to Jack Ma? Is he poor now? Can he hold the Chinese government by the throat like the US oligarchs are holding the US congress? Can US produce the ball point pen roller as mentioned in this video? Who has the most dynamic economy and grew the fastest for the past few decades? Who did the most reforestation in the past few decades? Who has the most HSR in the world that benefit the people and not the capitalists? Which country has the support of the most people in this world, not just the minority western countries (so called democratic countries which totally ignore the opinions of the global south, how ironic). Why is every economist predicting that China's GDP will overtake the US in the coming decade? And have already done so in terms of PPP in 2017? I don't know if you know all the answers to the above questions, but if China is as dumb and incapable as you think it is, the people as suppressed and unhappy as you think they are, there isn't much the US has to worry about, it's gonna collapse anyway, right?
@s.k634
@s.k634 Жыл бұрын
@@jokerswild5485 why does the US import clothes and shoes? Is it because the US can't make them or because it's cheaper to import them from Vietnam or China?
@GreyerShade
@GreyerShade Жыл бұрын
@@s.k634 We import trash from China because its cheap. Thats pretty simple to understand. Some items dont need any special knowledge or technology to manufacture which is perfect for China, since they have NEITHER. They churn out garbage by the metric ton. Innovation is why the Chinese didn't have the technological ability to make a ball point pen by themselves until 2017! That's 17 YEARS into the 21st century to finally figure out how to manufacture a small metal ball! There's a photo of East/West Germany at night. It shows East Germany bathed in yellow incandescent light, while West Germany is lit in white LEDs. The same country, same genes, the same past EXCEPT one side was effected by the stupidity of communism for long enough that it could literally be seen from space!
@s.k634
@s.k634 Жыл бұрын
@@GreyerShade didn't read your garbage rant .Whatever happened though I hope you forgive those guys for fvcking your @ss
@jamesnewman5426
@jamesnewman5426 Жыл бұрын
Hey, as part of the killing joke here, a bunch of foreign engineers quietly helped show them how. Talked to some mechanical engineers who know.
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Жыл бұрын
why would you reinvent the process of making a ball point pen stupid? It's a matter or buying the ncessary machinery. and then eventually making your machines.
@h.mandelene3279
@h.mandelene3279 6 күн бұрын
@@seawater1322 That's what they said about making computer chips. Just because you have a tool doesn't mean you have the gift to create with it.
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 5 күн бұрын
@@h.mandelene3279 huh? China is making a sht ton of chips and is taking massive share of the chip market due to the se sanctions, they can already produce 7nm en masse and moving towards 5nm, but they are putting even more focus on the general chip market not just the high end. What the fk are you talking about ?
@youraverageoperator
@youraverageoperator Жыл бұрын
That's really weird. Also, great beard
@AncientRylanor69
@AncientRylanor69 9 ай бұрын
l
@jelly.212
@jelly.212 Жыл бұрын
The amerimutt seething lol 😆
@whatsup3519
@whatsup3519 Жыл бұрын
Sexual revolution of 1960s would u explore that topic
@bharatavarsha17000
@bharatavarsha17000 6 ай бұрын
Damn, that's some serious shit 🔥
@jkonior1
@jkonior1 Жыл бұрын
This is a great lesson on why communism fails.
@TY-ck1yd
@TY-ck1yd Жыл бұрын
Why they are the second largest economic entity now then? I think that's because they are simple not communism at all...
@jkonior1
@jkonior1 Жыл бұрын
@@TY-ck1yd -- I was trying to make my comment as simple as possible. What I was trying (and apparently failing) to communicate was that using "central planning" rather than individual consumers to drive market needs is a bad plan. Hope this clears things up.
@charleskwok8
@charleskwok8 Жыл бұрын
@@jkonior1 it was free market that prevented it being produced domestically because imports were cheaper than the investment needed to build the manufacturing process, not to mention the profit margin was so thin that made no sense to do so, until videos like this caused the outrage of the Chinese people, Beijing caught wind of it and decided it was national pride to produce it domestically instead of importing it. Get the facts right.
@Bk6346
@Bk6346 Жыл бұрын
It’s a market economy in China but with a one party system.
@fairallni
@fairallni Жыл бұрын
Super weird China never could make a pen. lol
@user-js7ud9du2y
@user-js7ud9du2y Жыл бұрын
well they won't have works to make ballpen now
@casawsome
@casawsome Жыл бұрын
Hmm, a nuclear power with a massive industry couldn't make a ball point pen? You have to be on some top notch gear to actually believe this.
@jokerswild5485
@jokerswild5485 Жыл бұрын
It was even covered in Chinese state run Media... Just look it up. And the industry you are talking about are mostly foreign. Foreign companies open factories in china for cheap labor. The technology is not Chinese. It's American, japanese, Korean, German etc. They just make them. Even their Nuclear technology was given to them by Soviets.
@okbro3524
@okbro3524 Жыл бұрын
That's literally what happened
@jingyu97
@jingyu97 Жыл бұрын
technology as big as moon landing gear was created before technology as small as iphone, go figure...
@crikxouba
@crikxouba Жыл бұрын
And you have to be an idiot to believe ccp propaganda
@Crazytesseract
@Crazytesseract Жыл бұрын
It is about making ballpoint pen tips (with the socket and the ball), not the pen itself.
@audieallen9734
@audieallen9734 Жыл бұрын
🤭🤣
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Жыл бұрын
Why need pens? The PRC is the richest country of the world. Even p00r USA needs to beg China for loans. Since the trade-war with Trumpy, the export to the p00r USA increased with 50%. So who is an embarrassment?
@777kerokeropi4
@777kerokeropi4 Жыл бұрын
Let's repent from our sins and accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior yes we are all going to hell no body's perfect but Jesus can change that and make us go To heaven he can clean us from our sins don't be afraid to come near to God he'll forgive you you're always welcome to God his knocking on the door of your heart all you have to do is to let him in thats all folks God bless y'all
@angelfrias93
@angelfrias93 Жыл бұрын
China might have cheap fast labor but they are really behind in bieng innovation
@ctreid87
@ctreid87 Жыл бұрын
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