Why China is Building an Underground Nuclear Lab

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Ziroth

Ziroth

Күн бұрын

This is why China is building a $420 million underground nuclear research facility underneath the Gobi desert!
Nuclear waste is a commonly sited challenge for nuclear fission energy, which is a shame because nuclear is a low carbon and safe method of energy production (when done responsibly). The hardest to deal with waste is high level nuclear waste, which is what China's new lab is looking to solve.
Sources:
www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/...
www.sciencedirect.com/science...
www.nrc.gov/waste/high-level-...
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@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech 2 жыл бұрын
I decided not to go into depth about the pros/cons of nuclear as many other videos have done it! In short, it has one of the lowest death rates and CO2 emissions per unit of energy produced, despite notable accidents that caused deaths and tragedy. This does not mean it is the best energy source (there is no such thing!), but from the data, it is much better than oil, gas, and coal, in my opinion! Thanks for watching :D
@atlanciaza
@atlanciaza 2 жыл бұрын
It is astonishing that the smartest, and most technologically advanced nations say this is the best method, when in fact this is the worst method, the best method is actually a molten salt breeder reactor, as this type of reactor can use spent fuel as its fuel, the only reason that I know of why nations refuse to acknowledge this is because it is orders of magnitude harder to make weapons grade materials with a molten salt breeder reactor. The funniest thing about all this is that this type of reactor was discovered and built in the USA back in the 50's, yet no one uses it. If we just install molten salt reactors in conjunction with the current light water reactors we will prevent high level waste from even existing, and at the same time get power from that very process that reduces radioactivity. And if you think current reactors are safe, molten salt reactors are orders of magnitude safer then current light water reactors, just a few of its benefits over LWR are they operate at atmospheric pressure, thus no chance of an explosion no matter what the reactor is put through, it will at most have a little overflow due to thermal expansion of the salt, which is easily handled with overflow tank. Another benefit is the fact that when built correctly it has natural safety features that are not prone to failure or neglect as LWR safety measures. But enough of that, if you really want a full breakdown, check this video out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLd1m5qisbS6ook.html
@petermichalantos5038
@petermichalantos5038 Жыл бұрын
C02 is plant food, the grate oxygenation even required grate amount of C02. If there is only .05% C02 in the air atm how much O2 can plant produces from that for us to breath. Think about that, and this is not my opinion.
@cam35mm
@cam35mm Жыл бұрын
soon, China's LFTR is online it can burn these waste as fuel.
@tetraquark2402
@tetraquark2402 Жыл бұрын
But it makes Greta sad
@El.Duder-ino
@El.Duder-ino Жыл бұрын
Dealing with nuclear waste is a huge positive step towards promoting benefits of the nuclear fission energy. Nuclear energy is zero carbon and its benefits completely outcome its negatives if its done right. Nuclear needs to be considered as viable source of energy besides renewables like solar and wind. Fission served us very well and it will continue to do so at least till the time fusion will hopefully replace one day in the future.
@chrisk8208
@chrisk8208 2 жыл бұрын
Like everything else we've ever used, it's only waste until it becomes financially viable to re use it. Right now there are huge stockpiles of Thorium being treated as waste. Research by many companies is well under way on how to use this to bolster Uranium reserves and to use up existing nuclear waste as fuel. It's not a waste facility. It's a resource storage facility.
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech 2 жыл бұрын
Great perspective, from what I understand they need to find a way to make reusing the spent uranium cheaper than using virgin uranium, then hopefully recycling the waste will be much more common
@undertow2142
@undertow2142 Жыл бұрын
I think with in 10 years the trash stream of major cities will be sorted by AI robot arms and most of it recycled. We have the ability now.
@donlunn792
@donlunn792 9 ай бұрын
@chrisk8208 A resource storage facility ? You sound like a politician! Yes right.Glad you believe that. But i I think that future generations might not agree with you. But by then , you and I will be dead. Leaving this garbage to future generations.
@human_isomer
@human_isomer 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! If you're looking for similar topics to couver in the future, a follow-up on the Finnish disposal site would be interesting. Especially the technical aspects of storing the waste, precautions, safety measures, and long-term operation plans.
@dg202
@dg202 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks. However, at 2:58 you say that surface storage for 50 years reduces the activity to that of the original ore. For a fully closed fuel cycle this would take a few hundred years since you only have the fission products left. The current mainly once-through cycle leaves trans-uranics in the waste, and they take much longer to decay. Another argument in favour of closing the fuel cycle.
@emack76
@emack76 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that China isn't vaulting directly into Thorium reactors. These reactors actually CONSUME high-level waste from traditional early-generation plants as fuel.
@TravisSmith-hm4tt
@TravisSmith-hm4tt Жыл бұрын
Spot on. Why even build 3rd generation tech designed in the late 1950s. Unless it's for plutonium production that is.
@jorissimaitis7619
@jorissimaitis7619 2 жыл бұрын
Super intriguing, great video thanks
@benmcelwain5301
@benmcelwain5301 Жыл бұрын
If the waste is that radioactive can't it still be used to generate power, with sufficient shielding, via decay like the Voyager probes or nuclear batteries?
@robertbrandywine
@robertbrandywine Жыл бұрын
This is something I've long wondered. Why can't this energy be harnessed?
@erikb4407
@erikb4407 Жыл бұрын
I'm completely guessing here, but I assume it's still possible to use it for energy generation. However, is likely not *profitable* compared to replacing it with new fuel rods, so it's a better business decision to retire spent fuel rods
@harischris
@harischris 2 жыл бұрын
Great video keep it up!
@Spacedog79
@Spacedog79 2 жыл бұрын
You mention that nuclear is not renewable but it's worth mentioning that using fast breeder reactors we have effectively infinite fuel available, we'd have fuel even after the sun burns out and wind and solar no longer work. Fast reactors also cut down the quantity and length of time needed to store waste to just a few hundred years making storage much easier. China is currently building their 2nd CFR600 fast reactor.
@cyrilio
@cyrilio Жыл бұрын
Isn’t there an amazing storage fasciliteert being built in Finland? If I’m not mistaken then they’ve already started storing waste there.
@codaalive5076
@codaalive5076 Жыл бұрын
Good job. China is also making new generation of nuclear reactors powered by thorium in molten salt (MSR). This is extremely important because it will be their only source of power until 2050 or 60, being CO2 free is an added bonus to otherwise excellent project.
@atlanciaza
@atlanciaza 2 жыл бұрын
It is astonishing that the smartest, and most technologically advanced nations say this is the best method, when in fact this is the worst method, the best method is actually a molten salt breeder reactor, as this type of reactor can use spent fuel as its fuel, the only reason that I know of why nations refuse to acknowledge this is because it is orders of magnitude harder to make weapons grade materials with a molten salt breeder reactor. The funniest thing about all this is that this type of reactor was discovered and built in the USA back in the 50's, yet no one uses it. If we just install molten salt reactors in conjunction with the current light water reactors we will prevent high level waste from even existing, and at the same time get power from that very process that reduces radioactivity. And if you think current reactors are safe, molten salt reactors are orders of magnitude safer then current light water reactors, just a few of its benefits over LWR are they operate at atmospheric pressure, thus no chance of an explosion no matter what the reactor is put through, it will at most have a little overflow due to thermal expansion of the salt, which is easily handled with overflow tank. Another benefit is the fact that when built correctly it has natural safety features that are not prone to failure or neglect as LWR safety measures. But enough of that, if you really want a full breakdown, check this video out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLd1m5qisbS6ook.html
@loisplayer
@loisplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool video & so well explained! Love that they're storing it away from all humans just in case..
@IanMcGarrett
@IanMcGarrett Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that China's nuclear research facilities were looking into the LFTR cycle.
@kaiyack
@kaiyack Жыл бұрын
Buried waste is still buried waste. Looks like even the Chinese can’t get around this problem. The design is an admission of such.
@MyMy-tv7fd
@MyMy-tv7fd 2 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@v3r4al
@v3r4al Жыл бұрын
I guess it is a thorium reactor since there is no water source nearby in the middle of the desert
@dqmynator2.080
@dqmynator2.080 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo.. we polluted the space around earth ... the atmosphere ... the woods , the springwater, the rivers, the ocean, the mountains and even the desserts.. now what could we waste next? I have an excellent idea: Lets polute the INSIDE of the earth, too - make it a fun guessing game where people in 5.000 years will have great fun dealing with our deep burried surprises! Its kinda like a easter egg hunt - but with nuclear waste!
@digifomation
@digifomation Жыл бұрын
what are you trying to say, current way of keeping radioactive waste does not have chance to leak. also they choose where it burried so there no ground water around it. the main radioactive component of those high nuclear waste is Strontium-90 and cesium-137 that has like a half life of 30 year, stuff like isotope plutonium is as per usualy extracted from the waste before burial because of its many usage.
@romanchomenko2912
@romanchomenko2912 Жыл бұрын
Spent nuclear fuel to be used in fast breeder reactors to produce plutonium. The new design nuclear power plants of over 2000MW to use fuel enriched to 12 percent in order to make it worthwhile of producing plutonium this method could extend nuclear power for 250 years. Yes we know nuclear creates waste but waste that can be controlled.
@Quadr44t
@Quadr44t Жыл бұрын
4:26 Ahh, you mistimed this by six seconds. Awww missed opportunity.
@mslc22
@mslc22 Жыл бұрын
If i am not mistaken, Chinese source say they have new nuclear 5th gen reactor that can consume or process the fuel up to 90-95℅ leaving harmfull wast.
@petermichalantos5038
@petermichalantos5038 Жыл бұрын
There are know for cost cutting & sub standard building practice. Goodluck with that venture. I predict, 1st spill or breach in 10 000 hours. Hope I am wrong.
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus Жыл бұрын
They are working on thorium nuclear power too.
@thunderlifestudios
@thunderlifestudios Жыл бұрын
That seems like a waste for copper.
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 2 жыл бұрын
If we could do both fission and fusion could we techinically be able to make unlimited amount of energy?
@notgad3130
@notgad3130 2 жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately Fission and Fusion are only energy positive when going *towards* iron, imagine pushing something down a hill, your going to have to put more energy in if your trying to go uphill. Edit: This is also why stars can't survive with elements heavier than iron, they can't fuse it anymore so gravity takes over
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 2 жыл бұрын
@@notgad3130 okay 🙂
@DailyFrankPeter
@DailyFrankPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pronouncing it "nuclear".
@truthful3777
@truthful3777 Жыл бұрын
Why not talk about Fukushima waste water to be released in Pacific Ocean. Btw the research lab is the new Thorium Molten Salt Reactor that will benefit the world especially developing country as it is safe and cheaper to purchase. Best of all none of this can convert to weapon.
@martinmakella
@martinmakella Жыл бұрын
Why not? It's non of our business.
@chakchaky8521
@chakchaky8521 Жыл бұрын
Is nuclear is not recoverable?!?! Really?!? Nuclear reactor can create bew fuel, russian made nuclear plant with closed cycle.
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 Жыл бұрын
Why? So as to keep western ferals from poking around.
@cockneyse
@cockneyse 2 жыл бұрын
You have to love a person saying debating the safety of fission power stations ISN'T the purpose of this film (think 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima or Windscale disasters) after just including a 30sec plus propaganda section praising them!
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech 2 жыл бұрын
The death rates of nuclear are among the lowest of all energy sources, including all these terrible incidents. I had more of a discussion of this in the video draft, but it took away from the point of the video and there are many other good videos discussing it in detail!
@robroysyd
@robroysyd 2 жыл бұрын
TMI is actually a good example of how safe nuclear power is. The core partially melted and yet no radiation escaped. Chernobyl and Fukushima were certainly bad but one was caused by human a combination of human arrogance and stupidity and the other a tsunami which killed a huge number of people. Windscale wasn't built to generate power, it was operated to produce plutonium for the UK's nuclear weapons. Even so considering the reactor caught fire it's more a testament to how safe how safe even a poorly designed facility can be. What I don't like is the whole idea of burying high level waste deep underground. It still contains a considerable amount of energy which could be put to good use in the right type of reactors.
@bibasik7
@bibasik7 Жыл бұрын
Somehow, Winnie the Pooh building an underground nuclear lab sounds like it has some downsides.
@dpunch9323
@dpunch9323 Жыл бұрын
Idk why, but the U.S. taxpayers are probably paying for it 🤡🌎
@machomanrichards1534
@machomanrichards1534 Жыл бұрын
India should learn from China and let go of arrogance.
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