They had us in the first half not gonna lie

Yep

They had us in the first half not gonna lie

With a face like that what else could you be doing?

@@fokjohnpainkiller ?

Because it’s not that hard on the F1 calendar

Not to mention how famous the FIA and Liberty Media are for copyright striking any of their footage

@@metrofilmer8894 ikr

It's alot different for F1 cars. They take corners and MUCH higher speeds, so breaking points are going to be different (Especially with F1 breaks), and the line will be slightly different. As an F1 fan, I think this track is much more difficult for IndyCars as they far less downforce and I don't think they have power steering. The Indy guys and gals are good.

@@andrewstanley7300 hahahahahaahaahahaahahahahaha

Lots of understeer and lower downforce. One plus is how close they can follow for overtakes due to downforce differences. I like the F1 speed and prey the 2021 changes make the racing at the front more enjoyable to watch.

@@dg474805 they also don’t have power steering

I love how much they have to fight the cars because of the lack of power steering. It LOOKS like a challenge, whereas modern F1 cars are so planted it's a lot more "point and squirt". Now, I'm sure modern F1 cars are a massive challenge, but the Indycar just looks harder. I think next year with the reduction in downforce and switch to ground effect cars, we could see some of that in F1, although they will still have power steering.

Hamilton said that about COTA? That's cool if true.

youngval312 Yep, when asked about his favorite track he said “To drive and win is Monaco, and to race is Austin. Texas is the more opportunistic track for overtaking, so it’s more exciting.”

@@coreyward That's pretty awesome. I had read COTA wasn't that good for overtaking but maybe that's just for Moto GP

youngval312 Turns 1 and 12 are common overtaking opportunities that I would suspect MotoGP experience as well. I’ve seen plenty of passes around the tail of the esses (~9-10) and in the turn 13-15 complex in F1, too.

@MrFireFast Europeans telling that they have Nürburgring, Le Mans and Spa which are all way more difficult than COTA

We’re not wrong..we just like to make fun of US motorsport by exaggerating. (Btw americans include Canadians and Latin Americans which have very nice tracks as well)😉

@@logge6641 At least you acknowledge that you're exaggerating. I hope you're not one of those who like to bring up Monaco. If it didn't have it's historic reputation F1 wouldn't even be racing there anymore.

@@fighterck6241 well that makes Monaco doubly awesome cause it isn’t as polished as modern circuits like cota.

@Nikolas Cinicola Nürburgring , Not Nuremberg because that's where Nazis were trialled

@@imperialkitkat the reason it's nurburgring and not nuremburging ist because of the nazi trials, it's just because the circuit is near nurburg as apposed to nuremburg. I know that's what you meant but I like being pedantic.

@@joshjackson5867 I just corrected the guy on confusing towns but your explanation of what I know already is perfectly fine so keep on being pedantic my friend

Nurburgring, Spa and Monza come to mind

Seriously

Seeing an Indycar going around Singapore would be cool

Imagine spa

Indycar doesnt have power steering

@@johnnyrico3068 old f1 cars didnt have power steering and they sill went to monaco

noormubeen parbhoo touché but I cant imagine any modern f1 drivers being able to handle it especially with those speeds. Mad respect to those that did it back then!

When?? That should be interesting

Eric D. The truck and Xfinity series race will be held on May 22, and the Cup series race will be held on May 23

I'd watch that because I just can't watch oval racing

I got tickets!

@@mattb4699 cool, should be an epic inaugural race!

lmao its a turn 8 clone

Wdym

The penultimate corner is tricky tbh

Real OGs call if infineon raceway

@@PieZello ah yess infineon

U can put this request on Nico Rosberg's channel. He might do it.

The people who made this video are stupid and clearly have never heard of Sebring.

well Indy cars behave differently on this track AND this track was made with F1 in mind back in the early 2010s

Obviously, f1 cars favor cornering, and slowing down, as that’s what they are made for where Indy cars really aren’t, so when ur going 30-40kph faster with shittier breaks than a F1 car, what do you expect. One F1 car price-tag is literally equal to 40+ Indy cars😂 so this track better be easy for them.

Eh, I would definitely not say it's one of the easiest on the calendar. It's definitely on the harder end. It may not be the hardEST, but it's definitely hard.

@@ThatBeTheQuestion Exactly. You gonna tell me Sochi or Yas Marina is tougher than COTA.

Or nascar at a dangerous street circuit like Baku or Monaco

Yeah exactly. Also, Spa too.

@@TrappedinVishal I think Spa is just full of long straights, what makes it iconic is eau rouge-radillon. Plus, almost flat out through pouhon with modern f1 cars

Suzuka is god damn tough. You can feel it in game.

When did they move to the United States?

What part of "in the US" you people didn't understand?

They also claimed they'd be entering turns 3-7 at 200mph which isn't physically possible for an indycar.

Laguna Seca, Sebring, watkins glen, barber, road Atlanta, Indy road course, etc.

It's like they've never heard of Sebring

On average across different race series, COTA is certainly going to be more of a challenge. It might not look like much or feel challenging in a simulator, but reality is a different story. You need a fair bit of downforce for turns 16-18, but too much drag and your’e going to lose time on the pit and back straights. The esses and 12-15 really require a firm setup, but too much and the bumps are going to cost you. And it’s a dynamic track-you can’t expect to drive it today like you did a year ago because the surface of the track is always shifting.

No, full of European F1 fans.

@@firefastracing Aaaaaand American F1 fans, like moi. But probably mostly European, yeah.

Laguna Seca is on the schedule though

@@insertcolorherehawk3761 ik it is

@@1m3agle Laguna Seca is a great track for bike racing (roadracing), but a horrible circuit for cars.

Laguna Seca is really only hard with that really steep chicane

For sure

Some of these comments sound like the track is the toughest in the world, when the title clearly says toughest in the *US*.

You can join road to indy at a pretty young age and if you get in the top 3 of the indylights championship you get a seat in IndyCar. He placed 3rd got a seat in 2018 and became the youngest race winner at 18.

most drivers start at 8-12 with cart. from there they climb the ladder

Another tough one is the pikes peak course

Nuremberg?

@@AliAhmed-cu5cj Nurburgring, a long race course in Germany, most of the worlds car manufacturers test their sports cars there to set their benchmarks for performance

@@ejtamayo5317 Oh and the Isle of Man road course.

@@justinl2009 The isle of man course is very tough to

Well because he isn't used to it. I'm pretty sure NASCAR or Indycar drivers would say the same thing if they had to drive an F1 car around Monaco.

@@Maenfy plenty of F1 to Nascar drivers have claimed that oval, pack racing is difficult. The point was more that Europeans talk so much shit about American race series driving on Ovals until Alonso does it and they now think it's so cool. And plenty of American series race road courses as well including nascar.

@@renzomacchiavello5085 Well to be honest I don't think Europeans like ovals even when Alonso races on them. Some of his fans might but the majority won't care. It's just a cultural difference and I don't think that will ever disappear even though US sports are getting more popular in Europe at the moment.

thats why it says "one of"

Also Austria... But nurburgring and spa are the deadliest

America's is kinda okay.... But this is indycar...so kinda shit.... Not like f1

@@anishmathias6298 f1 nowadays is 💩

@@anishmathias6298 Austria isn't hard mate

Well Indy car has more road courses and street circuits than ovals in their calendar... so

@@khoado2060 Road America? Watkins Glen? Infineon? (I'm guessing ZuluRL isn't that familiar with American auto racing.)

You are a prime example of someone who only watches F1 and calls themselves a motorsport fan. IMSA goes to Sebring, Long Beach, Lime Rock, VIR, Road America, Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, Belle Isle, and CTMP. None of which are ovals and all of which are better than COTA. That's the answer.

@@doxagnosis2171 Sebring is fire

And a straight

F1 is the same way... There were and are drivers complaining that the tarmac runoffs gave them too much of an advantage when racing or qualifying.

Yep; also son of US racing legend Bryan Herta. It's not uncommon to find people in their early 20's in the top levels of racing anymore, there are 4 of them in Formula 1.

@@arjuhama Wow! I hope they have a great career!

Yes. Monaco. The most famous city of the US

_how original_

@@Azgaran03 i know others said that, but the first time i saw the title thats what i thought of, so its just a popular thought.

Indycars in road course configuration weigh just under the minimum weight for an F1 car, 739 kg, and they make 700-800hp, so there's no reason why they would be going "much slower", atleast on entry.

@@xavierrodriguez2463 No, they go MUCH slower. F1 cars are lighter and produce over 1000hp.

@@firedell1031 The Dallara IR-12 in IR-18 configuration weighs less than minimum weight

@@insertcolorherehawk3761 Weighing less doesn't magically make the car produce the downforce of an F1 car, or make the chassis suddenly be able to support that cornering speed, or make the tire suddenly grip way more.

Yes, Indycars have longer lap times. Indycar also has MUCH higher top speed than an f1 car because they have less downforce and less drag. So yes - they do enter corners at close to 200mph. Also, you forget the F1 cars get 160hp of the 1000hp from the hybrid system, and the hybrid boost DOES NOT WORK THE ENTIRE TIME THE DRIVER IS ON THE THROTTLE. Indycars make around 750hp in road course trim. F1 cars without hybrid boost make about 800hp. Indycars are LIGHTER than the F1 cars and have less drag... Yes the F1 car corners faster because of the increase in downforce over the Indycar - f1 cars also have MASSIVE tires and therefore more mechanical grip than the Indycar, which helps cornering speed also. Stop making dumb statements if you don't know what you're talking about. The fastest an f1 car has EVER been clocked is 371kph... I have news for you... That's the AVERAGE speed over 4 laps of this year's indy 500 pole sitter... The Indycar hits 240+mph on the straight without a slipstream... And over 245mph with a slipstream. Lap times, yes. F1 is quicker. But an Indycar is a faster car. Period. No f1 car has ever gone 400kph... MANY Indycars have though.

The issue is that even then, it's not the most punishing punishing track in the US, and an IndyCar can run in a straight line

Have you ever watched an Indycar race? It's much more exciting than F1... And Indycars can definitely go straight lol... Indianapolis is literally 4 straights connected with four 90 degree corners. Indycar races at Road America - which has a 1km long... Umm... STRAIGHT. lol seriously you f1 people are ridiculous

@@csonkaperdido yeh I watch and enjoy both Indycar and FIA series(F1 inclusive), hence the conclusion 'different specs'. In terms of excitment, nothing tops TT though. I am not an F1 peole, just so you know.

@@federigodelazion6738 I understand what you're saying... Except for the "can't go in a straight line" part. You mean the cars can't go straight? Or the track can't go straight? And yes f1 and Indycar are very different, but also very similar. They are the 2 fastest open wheel, single seat racing series. F1 is becoming more like Indycar though - allowing teams to buy parts from other teams... Like racing point and the brakes they buy from Mercedes... And Toro rosso basically just using last years parts from red bull... Haas having dallara build their chassis... That's is going to make the F1 cars all become more and more like each other. I think the best part of f1 is that the teams are supposed to have their own designs... But I also realize how much expensive that is for smaller teams.

Charles is better.

Sebring is the toughest according to the drivers who race on all the tracks in America but you're right, the people who made this video are click baiting

It is click bait. But let me re-phrase what I said: Laguna Seca, Road America, Watkins Glen and VIR (and also Mosport if we want to talk about Canada) are the hardest and most challenging tracks to drive in America. The high-speed corners, the lack of runoff and the margin for error for mistakes on those tracks is little to non-existent. Sebring is a challenging track to drive and satisfying to get a good lap in there, but what really sets it apart is that it is undoubtedly the toughest track on the car and perhaps the most physically demanding on the driver in America. The severity of the bumps, the tropical humidity, the variation of the track and the abrasiveness of the track surface make a 12 hour race at Sebring actually harder to finish than a 24 hour race at Le Mans- Sebring is, above all a test of the car's reliability and a physical test of the driver. That's why the European sportscar teams like Sebring- because it's an ideal preparation run for Le Mans.

@@hmdwgf exactly! They also did a video about the Daytona 24 and called it the "most grueling race in America"... When all the drivers say Sebring - because Sebring beats the living shit out of the cars and drivers. Anyone who has seen a car go around Sunset Bend leaping a foot into the air and bucking like a pissed off horse can clearly see why it's the most difficult race. You're spot on.

@@csonkaperdido I've seen it for real. To see those cars go through Sunset and pitch and buck the way they do is even more spectacular to see in person... another awesome corner at Sebring is Turn 1. It's so fast and the cars really do bounce violently on the exit there. The Daytona 24 certainly has its challenges but it's not as tough a race overall as the Sebring 12. Daytona is harder mentally on the team and it is a good test of how everyone in a team performs over a 24 hour period. Daytona is definitely hard on brakes, it's probably harder on the engine, fuel and driveshafts and the bankings generate 2 G's but Sebring is tougher in every other respect, and the Daytona track is like a pool table compared to the Sebring track.

@@hmdwgf Are you a pro racing driver? and if so have you raced on any of these tracks? My bet is no. COTA is a very physically demanding track to drive in real race cars, much more so demanding than any other road course in the US.

We're officially to the level of elitism where even indycar is getting made fun of for racing on ovals

Oh look another oval joke from what I'm assuming is an F1 fan who feels inadequate and insecure about the fact that his preferred form of motorsport is extremely boring. Fact: Indycar races on more circuits than ovals. Fact: Indycar circuits are generally more difficult and unforgiving than F1 circuits Fact: Fernando Alonso will never win the Indy 500 because even he, an accomplished world class driver cannot master oval racing Fact: Lewis Hamilton has already won the 2020 WDC. Max will probably get 2nd and Bottas 3rd. There are many races still to come, and yet everyone already pretty much knows that this is how the season will end. Fact: Most of the F1 races so far this season have been very boring.

@@DrSmoothSkin 1. I know indy car drive on actual circuits too, it was a joke. 2. COTA is one of the more difficult races in indy car, but is one of the easier in F1. We do have boring tracks like Abu Dabi, Barcelona and Poul Ricard, but we also have spa, monza, siverstone, sazuka and the Nurembergring is on this year, and we also have street like Singapore, monaco, baku and the new Vietnamese gp. 3. When will a American driver ever win F11 or Lemans again? 4. True that the top three is probably set but hwo expected stroll to be 5 and Lando 7, and ferrari being 5 in the constructors with racing poin 3 and Maclaren 4. 4. There are ops and downs but Lewis finished on three weels this season, lando got a crazy podium, hulk returned and racing point is doing really good.

@@kaspershaupt 1. I acknowledged that it was a joke. Trouble is it's extremely unoriginal and not even accurate. Believe it or not, you aren't the first person to make a joke about Americans turning left. 2. I wasn't talking about the whether the circuits were exciting or not, I was talking about difficulty. F1 circuits are much more generous with runoff area. Indycar circuits are much old-school in this regard. It's Nurburgring. Nuremberg is where the Nazi war criminals were put on trial. F1 is visiting the Nurburgring GP circuit, which is a fine track, but it's nothing special. Spa, Monza, Suzuka are great tracks, but none of them have seen tremendously exciting racing for the last few years. That being said, F1's best circuit is Interlagos and that may be on the way out because Tilke is designing a circuit in Rio as we speak. That's another big problem with F1. They only go where the money is. This season is a little different for obvious reasons, but any other year, F1 is more than happy to add god-awful circuits in some of the most brutal dictatorships in the world. It's nice that F1 is trying to be socially conscious with the end racism stuff, but all of that is undermined by the fact that they race in China, Russia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, and the UAE. Not to mention the Aramco ads plastered all over the circuits. Or the covert tobacco advertising on the Ferraris and McLarens. Or the fact that Mercedes title sponsor, Petronas hates gay people. 3. The pipeline to get into F1 and its feeder series essentially requires young drivers to relocate to Europe earlier on to have a chance. North American prodigies like Colton Herta, and Pato O'Ward are never given much of a shot despite their talent. If we're talking Le Mans wins, we have to set our parameters first of all. Are you saying that only overall wins count? As in top finishing LMP1 car? Or are you, like literally everyone else, counting class wins? Because Americans get plenty of those despite there not being a lot in WEC. Most sports car drivers in the US end up in IMSA. 4. I mean the midfield is better but honestly who cares? Nobody 20 years from now will remember who finished 5th in the 2020 season.

@@DrSmoothSkin the fact that one guy designs all the new tracks with the paddock and not the racing in mind, is so frustrating and stupid. The whole we race as one and end racism is great. but everybody is gonna se how little they care. when they are gonna race in the places you said and are not going to shown it all weekend. F1 is a "international" series but we all know it's european based, and every team has there base here. So i don't expect a american driver to succeed in F1 the same way i don't expect a european diver to succeed at nascar or indycar. It's a bit sad but the way it is. And you are correct that no one is going to remember the midfield 20 years, they are only going to remember how dominant Lewies is. But isn't that also how people remember Senna and Schumacher's era?