Why Dana Iclucia Is A Great Character

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CommRio

CommRio

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure people could see this one coming a mile off, but I'm back to the character analysis game with Dana Iclucia. One of the dual protagonists of Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, and likely my favorite Ys series character now. I hope you enjoy the new adjusted format for these videos and please let me know what you think in the comments.

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@Vyristrasz
@Vyristrasz 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to highlight Dana's music piece, the "Iclucian Dance", which encompasses perfectly her struggle and fight against all odds and Fate itself. The dance she is boldly and dare devilishly performing without a hint of hesitation and doubt. You hear the despair of Eternia, you hear the overwhelming odds stacked against Dana... Yet she is still going, still helping others, no backing up. Thats the character she is. The Unbreakable Dana Iclucia.
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't really consider how the music played into her story, but I like your take on it.
@rundas485
@rundas485 3 жыл бұрын
I always adored Dana as a character and you just solidified my love for her even more. Great video!
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped!
@crispybanana3316
@crispybanana3316 2 жыл бұрын
The game gets sadder when you learn the meaning of "Lacrimosa"
@filipinowhiteboy
@filipinowhiteboy 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t it Latin for tears?
@24nero24
@24nero24 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished Ys 8, it is my first ys game ever and it was an amazing experience and Dana was a big part of that. One if the best characters i have seen in many years. And now i have purchased al the Ys games i could find on Steam, i could not help myself. I just need to know the entire story hahaha.
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun! Plus Ys IX is coming to Steam very soon too so you’ll not be bereft of Ys content anytime soon.
@nathanlabrador7664
@nathanlabrador7664 3 ай бұрын
Finished Ys 8 just a couple hours ago. Dana just became my favorite Falcom character ever and watching this video after bearing witness to her wonderful journey just increased my love for her.
@turri2157
@turri2157 3 ай бұрын
Hope you never stop making videos. The world needs people that praise Dana, lol. Seriously, I get emotional every time I remember her.. and i've just finished a second play through. You managed to illustrate perfectly how amazing she is.Great content, dude. Keep it up!
@ryanbachatarockstar
@ryanbachatarockstar 3 жыл бұрын
Dana is #1 Ys Waifu :)
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
Good taste!
@EndlessDream
@EndlessDream 2 жыл бұрын
Dana is the reason why I enjoyed Ys VIII more than I thought I would. The true ending made me tear up because of the fact that we'll never see her again. This is just like Princess Yue (Avatar) and Allura (Netflix Voltron). Strong benevolent women who sacrifice themselves for the greater good. 😢 Also, kudos to her English VA Brianna Knickerbocker. She brings so much emotion to the character.
@TyrannosaurusCHEX
@TyrannosaurusCHEX Жыл бұрын
Don't count her out for good, she liked to sneak off work when she was mortal so there's still a chance she could do it again as a goddess in future games - shes much too good of a charcter to only use in one game, and hopefully the developers start to realise this and bring her back again.
@JordanAdventure1
@JordanAdventure1 2 жыл бұрын
excellent analysis. i really love how dana was portrayed in this game and her struggles, it really resonates with me. and really inspire me to be better, to never give up. its something that i have to remember once in a while. she is sure a character i will never forget. dana forever.
@AceWing905
@AceWing905 3 жыл бұрын
My goodness. Just finished the game, got the true end, and I am positively in love. It's a shame we'll probably never get more games with her. Hell, I'll even take a Ys vs Kiseki type of deal just to see her again.
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
Ys vs Kiseki 2 has a lot of characters to choose from if it ever happens.
@AceWing905
@AceWing905 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio That could be one hell of a fun time. Though I feel sadly that a proper Ys vs Kiseki 2 at this point could possibly either 1. be beyond Falcom's budget for a side project like that or 2. just contain way less characters than can do these games justice
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
@@AceWing905 I think they could do it, given the resources they're willing to put into Nayuta no Kiseki I think they could make a new engine Ys vs Kiseki 2, but I do think it's unlikely.
@AceWing905
@AceWing905 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio From what I can tell, Nayuta Kai appears to be something on the level of Sky Evo. The new art looks really good, but the 3D graphics and gameplay seem to be mostly the same old stuff, just in way higher resolution. At least going by the videos available at the moment, that is.
@choi-r7108
@choi-r7108 Жыл бұрын
You can search "Peptastic Miss Dana", just a little bonus content of Dana
@Zadamanim
@Zadamanim 2 жыл бұрын
A fun detail I always thought was interesting was how she is the shortest member of the eternians but when she joins your party of humans she is the tallest character. I feel this represents a couple things. She is bridging the gap between the two races, she fits in with both but in different ways. As an eternian she is considered young and wreckless but as an ally to the humans she is considered wise and carrying out a gambit thousands of years in the making. She adapts herself to any challenge, as refenced by her color/elemental forms, too.
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
That is a fun detail, didn't notice the height disparity within the Adol era characters
@TyrannosaurusCHEX
@TyrannosaurusCHEX Жыл бұрын
She mentions it in one of the bits of dialogue when they are saying how big the buildings are from her civilization and she says that everyone was really tall and she was just very small for her race (there's also some subtle hints that she didn't like it much either and had tried unsuccessful diets to grow taller)
@nadstengco2591
@nadstengco2591 4 ай бұрын
​@@TyrannosaurusCHEXexcept she's not the tallest on the Ys8 characters.. She's really small as an Eternian but as a human she's in the average height..
@misterx4253
@misterx4253 2 жыл бұрын
I ❤️ Dana.
@danath5714
@danath5714 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis on why Dana is so great! 👍 Easily the best character in Ys 8. The things she has to suffer and how she never gives up, it's truly inspirational stuff.
@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1
@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 Жыл бұрын
I really want Dana and adol to be together in the end. Even when falcom says he loves feena, the fact still stands that adol hasn't been able to forget about her even in Ys 9 and she's even there to help her out for some big things from what I know and coincidently enough, another old blue haired goddess. If adol was to really marry only feena, they wouldn't keep on introducing all these girls in every game that love him too. If there's a gun in the shelf in ep 3, it should be shot by 5. If not, it has no reason to be there. Just like that, if all these girls are getting introduced, he has to pick 1 of them instead of just tunnel visioning for feena. That's backed up by how the devs say that he marries one of the girls in his travels and deliberately leave out their name to keep the fans invested in the romance of the game by speculating and theorizing. They went too far with the very specific choice words dana had towards him, specifically singling him out outta the bunch to talk to him, genuinely crying and hugging for the whole scene to just be platonic. You could say she did that outta pure compassion with how much he helped her but when a woman suffers for 65 million yrs and then a man comes into his life as knight in shining armor while potentially being the solution to all her problems, it's not surprising for her compassion to easily turn into love, considering how the whole scene went with all the blatant hints there with even the goddess Maia calling them both being tied by a red string of fate in one of the eng subs (that's referred to eternal lovers in Asian cultures) lots of hints there. All in all, while it is important that the dev's word of mouth does matter, the hints they give out is equally important too. Game devs are artists too and as artists, they deliberately leave out a lot of stuff for the fans to figure out. It starts conversations and keeps the community active like I said above and this won't be the last time time they did something like this. Nothing is set in stone and as such, adol marrying dana is equally as possible as him marrying feena My girl has suffered enough. She needs some love in her life. She needs to know that there's somebody who will cherish her and look at her as more than just a friend
@Genecidel
@Genecidel 2 жыл бұрын
Teared up at the true ending. I'll never forget you Dana!
@jhonliushan517
@jhonliushan517 2 жыл бұрын
start to play the game again a few weeks ago, know the franchise since childhood but when i met this game, i have to say, my heart beats fast in the last chapter, when they found her, and adol look in her eyes, was one of the best things ever, this game is a masterpiece and dana is such a strong girl, her world literally fall apart and she still going after the answers she seek, fighting and going foward, love her so much
@strifej1333
@strifej1333 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished ys8 and this popped up from previous searches. Great video and great feels to quickly go over everything that happened this journey. Looking forward to more character analysis and game reviews. Thanks
@rancelpinocaballero3210
@rancelpinocaballero3210 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video, Dana is one of my favorite female game characters of all times. YS music also helps all her brightest moments. I love this game. When I found out what was going on with the asure petals and Danas appearence implications I just collected them all, reading her messages sent shivers down my spine and tears to my eyes.
@meganbray2963
@meganbray2963 2 жыл бұрын
Okay this was one of the best videos I have ever watched. You bring such a different perspective to who Dana is as a character. After your wonderful analysis, it caused me to compare and contrast Dana and Velvet crowe from tales of berseria. They are almost exact opposites of each other(with some minor simularities like boldness etc) but they both share a common goal of never giving up in the face of adversity. They use vastly contrasting methods in order to push on despite tremendous hardships. The bigger message I'm taking away is we should utilize our strengths in order to overcome hardships, BUT persistence can take on many different forms. Velvet, although a worse person than Dana, still perseveres and finds strength within her sadness and anger. Dana pushes on with resolve and kindess. It's beautiful to make that comparison between almost complete opposites and I wanted to thank you for allowing this thought to cross my mind. Liked and subscribed, I look forward to watching many more of your old and new videos.
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
Dana and Velvet are both fantastic characters and as you said it's a good example of how the same traits in different people can yield very different results. Thank you for your kind and insightful comment, I hope you continue to enjoy my videos!
@meganbray2963
@meganbray2963 2 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio And thank you for the reply! Yes it really is a unique message that you made possible for me to understand. Thanks again and I absolutely will continue to enjoy your videos 🤝
@dragonspit77
@dragonspit77 3 жыл бұрын
Great video analysis, Ys 8 was my first JRPG and first Ys game, and I have to say it was truly an amazing ride. Dana especially was a key reason why I enjoyed it so much. The new format is looking good sectioned and easy to follow.
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
Ys 8 for first JRPG? Great start then, glad you enjoyed the video!
@Ghalion666
@Ghalion666 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio i disagree. Terrible start. It will be very hard to play more jrpgs and not be disappointed lol.
@shernjian
@shernjian 2 жыл бұрын
time to play FFX, another JRPG masterpiece
@SeveredLegs
@SeveredLegs Жыл бұрын
Man if this was your first JRPG, it's all downhill haha.
@Scyther007
@Scyther007 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, couldn't watch the whole video as i have yet to beat the game but im absolutely loving it. Ys VIII is my absolute favourite jrpg ever and nothing came close to it, everything about this game is masterpiece, an excellent confluence of brilliant writing and just as brilliant gameplay. You have gained a new subscriber today, thank you for the video 😃.
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the game and the video! Ys VIII is a special game
@Thuxo
@Thuxo Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. You made some interesting points about Dana's character arc and evolution that I hadn't previously considered and you have a very refreshing perspective on Ys VIII different from mine. Ys VIII is still my favorite standalone game to this day ... as the narrative is so strong. Dana's conviction and foresight were both amazing. I have never played any other game that taught me so deeply or poignantly about loss and joy. A game about the fact that things end, but that you should treasure them regardless both during and after. Just Kino.
@Weiss640_
@Weiss640_ 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man I enjoyed it alot it reminds me of how awesome this game really and this is the first time I watch your video keep it up and I will definitely stick around 😁
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 2 жыл бұрын
Dana is basically the love child of Breath of the Wild's Link and Zelda, despite coming out around a year before BotW. She even got her own version of the Monk Maz Koshia fight in the content added to all the post-Vita versions of the game (which also came out before the BotW DLC that only Maz Koshia).
@jackylee5850
@jackylee5850 8 ай бұрын
She's a dinosaur lady, what's not to like. Extremely strong too, who else could easily use those giant twin crescent blades. In the end, she becomes the goddess of evolution and saves the world from extinction, essentially becomes one of, if not the most powerful character in the Ys universe, putting even Feena and Reah beneath her
@putz3268
@putz3268 2 жыл бұрын
Ys VIII is the first Ys game I ever played and what a way to get into the series it is. The game does a great job building up it's mystery through the first half. Just exploring the island, finding new people and searching for a way off the island is easygoing and fun. But the sense of something bigger going on always lingers and builds, especially through the flashbacks that are Dana's past. And once that twist hit I was sucked in completely and couldn't stop myself playing until I finished everything.
@richardsargent4444
@richardsargent4444 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful series. Glad Ys is a part of it.
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 2 жыл бұрын
18:28 The "there comes a time in every man's life when he must answer a call to destiny beyond human understanding" factoid is actually just a statistical error. Adol Christin, who pinballs around the spacetime continuum and becomes the local Chosen Hero Of Destiny approximately twice a year, is an outlier and should not have been counted.
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
Adol the anomaly.
@flatterkatz
@flatterkatz 3 ай бұрын
just commenting for the algorithm. Dana was great.
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 ай бұрын
Appreciated
@MrLenZo
@MrLenZo 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 💖
@CommRio
@CommRio 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
@ColinLack
@ColinLack Жыл бұрын
Dana is one of my favourite characters of all time and Ys 8 is one of my all time favourite games as well!
@CommRio
@CommRio Жыл бұрын
Great taste!
@ColinLack
@ColinLack Жыл бұрын
@@CommRio Thank you! I hope Falcom eventually become a far more known developer than they are!
@MaxTheEcchitaku
@MaxTheEcchitaku 2 жыл бұрын
Dana is love
@CriimsonBlackRose
@CriimsonBlackRose 3 жыл бұрын
Dana is wonderful. New sub and like ;)
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate them, welcome!
@CriimsonBlackRose
@CriimsonBlackRose 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio I also saw a few other of your videos. I enjoy the format and your style. Keep up the good workz
@donaldzuramp4404
@donaldzuramp4404 2 жыл бұрын
I need Dana’s character back in ys 10!
@KudaGeatsune3821
@KudaGeatsune3821 3 жыл бұрын
Question why Dana is a good character Answer she's a falcom character they're always good
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
I would hesitate to say always, but they have a long track record of success.
@KudaGeatsune3821
@KudaGeatsune3821 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio yup now if only we could get more characterization for adol
@CommRio
@CommRio 3 жыл бұрын
@@KudaGeatsune3821 I might be in the minority of Ys fans, but I honestly prefer it when Adol gets less characterization and focus. I think the games's best stories are when Adol is the helper that shows up instead of it being really focused on him.
@KudaGeatsune3821
@KudaGeatsune3821 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio well it actually fits with some info I have the stories are according to my info just some outside party reading adol's journals which were republished as a book series of sorts he doesn't say much about himself hence why the reader doesn't know much beyond what's implied by the journal
@ryanbachatarockstar
@ryanbachatarockstar 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommRio Very True. I just finished Ys 9, and it was very clear that all the other characters were the real stories. Adol plays a central role, but his story is not the one that made me sad when it finally ended.
@PewPew_McPewster
@PewPew_McPewster 2 жыл бұрын
She has agency That's almost all of it.
@zerosorigin8387
@zerosorigin8387 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish she stayed with Adol. She was the one I wanted him to be with. 😭
@matthewsimmons9277
@matthewsimmons9277 4 ай бұрын
So do the former wardens effectively become her angels?
@CommRio
@CommRio 4 ай бұрын
It seems to me more like they’re advisors, but we’d have to see them in action with her to say for sure
@maverick-6356
@maverick-6356 3 жыл бұрын
Actually if you read carefully, dana iclucia appear in ys 9 monstrum nox 😁
@siegfridbautista776
@siegfridbautista776 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got an info also to those ys fans on youtube where an old game showing dana's grave at adols time, and it does means that dana somehow helps adol in his quest in other or forseeable future games to be written, tell me what i do not know coz i inly have the vita and cant afford to have ps4 or ps5 to play the latest game and story
@doctorcragmire7299
@doctorcragmire7299 2 жыл бұрын
There's one thing about Dana you forgot to mention: she's so friggin' sexy! I mean, come on! A scantily-clad girl who fights and kills giant monsters? Hell yeah!
@Keroltor
@Keroltor Жыл бұрын
I just finished Ys VIII, and it's been more than a year since your video so this comment will probably be lost, but I find her fate absolutely cruel. Especially for a free spirit such as herself, and after having fought to save not one, but two species from the Lacrimosa, she is now forced to conduct the next Lacrimosas for basically eternity, she cannot interact with the people she saved in a meaningful manner and she is bind to her duty as the new Goddess of Evolution. She's lost everything, and that true ending is just another bad end, the only silver lining being her reunion with Sarai. Don't get me wrong, I loved Ys VIII, but Dana deserved so much more, she didn't deserve to lose the freedom she could only start to grasp after so many years of fighting for others. And becoming a god, especially being forced to become a god, is always one of the worst thing that can happen in my opinion (yes, even death is better than godhood, but that is only my opinion, and I can understand you not sharing it). She deserved to travel the world and meet the people she saved and to do it while being true to herself, and, most importantly, finally free (and that's going to be my head cannon, until she can actually be free from her duties and wander the world and help people like she always should have, much like Adol). And that is why I can't come to terms with this true ending. Also, she has to be with Nestor for the rest of eternity, and that is already cruel enough.
@CommRio
@CommRio Жыл бұрын
I know plenty who feel the same as you. I'd have to go back to see the exact wording but I like to believe that Dana was chosen to break the cycle not continue it, and that she could travel maybe in disguise (I mean the wardens seem to have teleportation powers, wouldn't be too much to let them bounce around while things are on the slow side on the godhood front). All that though of course is head canon. Thanks for leaving your comment
@Keroltor
@Keroltor Жыл бұрын
@@CommRio to me, the wording was about the necessity of those mass extinctions, and Dana's role was to make them more bearable, and it is also stated that she can't be seen by those who haven't overcome the Source of Life (and Adol needed Maia to access it and overcame it after an intense battle), so her existence is bound to be a lonely one, which is sad for someone who stated she already felt lonely after the loss of her people and the loss of her best friend, Olga. It is implied in an interaction in IX (I haven't done it yet, I just saw the clip of it on YT) that she can possess other people and watches over Adol, probably as she waits for the next cycle. It is still not enough for me, as she deserve to finally live for herself after living for others all of her life, even if that means helping others, it should be on her own terms and not because of her duties, either as the Maiden or a goddess. That is why I can't ever see VIII ending as a good ending and I find Dana's fate exceptionally cruel. And the fact that she accepts it doesn't make it any less cruel. On another note, that was a great video, and Dana is one of the most impactful JRPG character to me as well, so I loved to watch it!
@lenleon3699
@lenleon3699 Жыл бұрын
@@Keroltor It was more like the Lacrimosa changed from a system that a program activated every X amount of years, to a last resort that Dana would have to use if the world began to stagnate or fall into unending chaos. Though yes, it is rather unfair that Maia herself can do whatever she wants, even take the form of animals, yet Dana is stuck to her duty as an overseer.
@filipinowhiteboy
@filipinowhiteboy 2 жыл бұрын
I keep getting people recommending batwoman or Captain marvel as great female characters....pffftt! I'll take Dana any day of the week.
@hashswap
@hashswap 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish the ending didn't suck so bad. It just felt like lazy writing to invalidate almost everything you've done to try and fit it before Ys 6 and Ys 7.
@kevinhynes95
@kevinhynes95 2 жыл бұрын
did you get the true ending?
@hashswap
@hashswap 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhynes95 Yup
@kevinhynes95
@kevinhynes95 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I thought it was really good. It's not what I expected but I thought it aligned with Dana as a character. What didn't you like about it?
@hashswap
@hashswap 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhynes95 Not really about Dana; she was an excellent character but more on the hand waving that everything is a dream of Maia. Since history was re-written, why couldn't the captain be saved? More importantly, did the people of Eternia just cease to exist? Quite frankly, that just sucks more than just being extinct. The issue I had with adding such a cosmic entity is with adding so much power it opens a whole can of worms that the game fails to tie loose ends much less explain. To make matters worse, it kind of came out of left field with only minor hints here and there (sorry it's been awhile as I can't remember all the details). In as much as I like characterization, I am a stickler for story telling logic and story structure.
@kevinhynes95
@kevinhynes95 2 жыл бұрын
@@hashswap I just finished it yesterday now that you mention it seeing the captain revived would have been a great Easter egg! It wasn't explained but I would imagine the reason it didn't is because Dana saved the world by sacrificing herself with the current population tho since she acted so quickly without planning. But that's just speculation. also the goddess was asleep and didn't dream of that happening so she didnt have much control either would be how I rationalized it
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