Why Darth Vader Was AFRAID of Upgrading His Suit

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@Hymn645
@Hymn645 2 жыл бұрын
The hinderances and pains of the suit ensured Vaders survival against his most dangerous foe, Anakin Skywalker.
@cyrushornbeak7079
@cyrushornbeak7079 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie pain makes you feel stronger than ever and I helps too push u along speaking from experience
@Zapatozi
@Zapatozi 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyrushornbeak7079 True. We need pain to move forward. I feel like Vader wanted the pain to fuel him more with power of the dark side. Then again, if I was Vader, I would rather die than live as a "slave" with pain. I think he chose to live and not take the chance to upgrade his suit because of his son and daughter, Luke and Leia. He wanted to reunite with the only family he had (his and Padme's children).
@Odogusi
@Odogusi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zapatozi as much as Vader is power hungry he would probably chose his kids over power
@jerrylewis788
@jerrylewis788 2 жыл бұрын
@@Odogusi he did.
@Xisk77
@Xisk77 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, a one piece sealed metal suit which can't be opened and a pair of wooly boxers would achieve about the same level of aggravated fury. Pain can actually be a hell of distraction, an itch isn't bad enough to to distract you but arguably is more infuriating than pain 🤔
@emperorpalpatine4681
@emperorpalpatine4681 2 жыл бұрын
Cos it ran windows 11 and he was happy on 10. He told me.
@MrMuziekman
@MrMuziekman 2 жыл бұрын
you still had windows 10 and 11 in those advanced technology times like we do in our non space travel times?
@michaelasbury7121
@michaelasbury7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMuziekman Windows can never die. It is like the Force itself. If anyone tried to kill it off, it will spit out its own Chosen One as a droid.😂
@youvebeenmungaid1470
@youvebeenmungaid1470 2 жыл бұрын
The emperor is here oh shit
@charaznable8072
@charaznable8072 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe somehow you returned in episode 9
@De_forresto
@De_forresto 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ I can’t stop laughing
@battlefieldpro12345
@battlefieldpro12345 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Paplpatine, had Anakin not lost to Obi Wan, would be content with Vader trying to overthrow him as a way of testing his strength and loyalty to the Sith tradition. If Vader won, Palpatine would transfer his force essence into a younger body and analyze his faults in the battle, improve, and eventually attempt to overthrow Vader.
@COACHWARBLE
@COACHWARBLE 2 жыл бұрын
I think Anakin would have killed Palpatine after the CIS council
@battlefieldpro12345
@battlefieldpro12345 2 жыл бұрын
@@COACHWARBLE directly after Mustafar battle according to the Revenge of the Sith game alternate ending.
@glasses685
@glasses685 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think RotS Anakin is anywhere near powerful enough to overthrow Sidious and would've lost badly if he tried. Maybe if he never got injured then he would've eventually surpassed Palpatine, but certainly not in his early 20s.
@stardust1621
@stardust1621 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's no way a young early in his 20's Anakin would be able to overthrow Palpatine. He would have to become more seasoned in his abilities as well as the dark side to do that accomplishment. But yes eventually he would overthrow Palpatine.
@insultlk
@insultlk 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasses685 Yeah my guy didn’t even get trained by him once yet, and anakin is already planning on betraying him😂🤣. Anakin is a different breed when in comes to arrogance
@mo-kangling3251
@mo-kangling3251 2 жыл бұрын
While the old suit added to the pain and suffering Vader dealt with on a daily basis, it should be noted that the cause of Vader's suffering and pain was his failure to save both his mother and his wife. Those are emotions that will stay with Vader for his entire life, and should be more than sufficient to fuel his anger and dark side powers. But of course Vader wants to be all powerful, so maybe it is like Stupendous says, keeping the old suit would make him much stronger in the dark side of the force than an new and improved suit.
@yamahakid450f
@yamahakid450f 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know... the way Palpatine designed it made him unable to use all of his power and reach his full potential, made the suit susceptible to force lighting, he did all this to protect himself from Vader, he never wanted to be surpassed and knew he would if Vader could reach his limit. If the new suit was better and allowed him to push his powers more, then I'd say get the new suit. The anger and pain emotionally is still and will always ve there, he's got a lot more hate and anger than just about his mother and wife/kid. A new less physically painful suit wouldn't diminish that mental pain, so with a less painful suit, better physical movement making him more confident in his ablities, and being able to use more of his power he'd be a lot more of a threat to sidious's thrown. I think he just doesn't trust sidious enough to get a new suit, he may think something is even more worse about this new suit. I don't think he would die during surgery, maybe he would but I think he could keep himself alive with the force... he may also believe he deserves the physical pain to match his emotional pain... whether the physical pain increases his connection to the dark side and be worth more than all the positives from a new suit, I don't know but I'd think being in less physical pain would diminish his connection to the dark side since he's still emotionally is the same dark place new suit or not. The biggest benefit, if the story with Luke went the same way ad Canon, the force lightning wouldn't of fucked up his breathing and he'd most likely live from being lit it by sidious.. makes you wonder what his and lukes life would of been like after Anakins return to the light
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 2 жыл бұрын
And realizing that Palpatine had deluded him into gjving himself to the Dark Side for nothing. Padme still died and now he was a slave to his evil master. It was too late to turn back and undo the mistakes he had made.
@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY
@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY 2 жыл бұрын
Also spending like 30 years of constant agony in the old suit would in of itself be so traumatic I don't think the memory of that physical pain would leave him anytime soon either.
@tornado100able
@tornado100able 2 жыл бұрын
@@yamahakid450f He would be arrested for the rest of life or executed... he killed millions of creatures!
@AffyisAffy
@AffyisAffy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, sometimes Vader would let the emotions take over and it became too much so he would mute his suit mic and have a good cry. He didn't do this often, as the salt from the tears would burn his wounds. After crying for a while he would remove his mask and use the tears for his plants as he was also a known horticulturist
@Dubs12
@Dubs12 2 жыл бұрын
I believe if Vader did get a new suit not only would he be more powerful than in his regular suit but I believe he still would have held back against Luke in Return of the Jedi. Also Anakin might have also still lived afterwards too so he could help train Luke in the ways of the Jedi.
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why he didn't want the suit, which makes sense is it didn't give them as much pain which actually be a good idea to make a pain suit, and there was also a sentimental value to to it. So I can understand the decision.
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 2 жыл бұрын
@@freedomdude5420 But let's imagine a state-of-the-art Vader suit, that is made to not only be superior, but also to intentionally cause Vader immense pain and suffering. A dark thought for the Darkside.
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 2 жыл бұрын
@@Inertia888 not to mention, Palpatine using materials for sentiment purposes, let's just say padme ship or Obi's Crystal to make it bleed (this would have to kind of be vaders doing) put it on the suit, then you got up complete Horrible Show. You better be afraid. I think of Bane's parasite armor; most individuals would have been dead with those parasites, but thanks to his ability of the Darkside and the fact they gave him some chemicals to help him, instead of killing him, it made him even more stronger then ever was before. Palpatine needed to think outside of the box, and figure out how he overcame what happened at Mustafar with a fight with Obi-Wan Kenobi. Then again they're bunch of D bags.🤣🤣🤣
@mountainman5173
@mountainman5173 2 жыл бұрын
After all the years of barbaric and evil acts that Anakin perpetrated as Vader, I don't think there would have been anywhere safe, even in the unknown regions, that Luke and his father would have been safe from pursuit. Retraining a new Jedi order would have been nigh impossible. But that's just me.
@sbird8675
@sbird8675 2 жыл бұрын
@@mountainman5173 Agreed. If Vader had survived ROTJ he would've had to spend the rest of his life in disguise, evading trial for all his hundreds of atrocities.
@Stevenyc69
@Stevenyc69 2 жыл бұрын
They need to do a what if series for Star Wars. I would love to see alternatives.
@ghostofsparta36
@ghostofsparta36 2 жыл бұрын
There already is
@gallonofmilk7386
@gallonofmilk7386 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostofsparta36 what is it?
@krishnasakkuri5009
@krishnasakkuri5009 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostofsparta36 what is it?
@ghostofsparta36
@ghostofsparta36 2 жыл бұрын
@@krishnasakkuri5009 its a Disney plus thing that it was made for
@cooingwolf6775
@cooingwolf6775 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostofsparta36 That’s Marvel What If, unless you mean Visions, which isn’t a What If series but a separate thing entirely.
@gone3281
@gone3281 2 жыл бұрын
I read the books back in the 80's, was something like this: "... and after so many years vader and the suit were already 1, were metal and flesh were fussed as blood vein and circuits. the only parts you could separate were the cape and other minor part, anything else could compromise and rapidly decay his zombie body, in the end that armor was his link to this realm and the source of his pain but a reminder that he was still alive."
@alext399
@alext399 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting but i don’t think those are canon anymore, those were written before the explanation of bacta tanks
@inyourgranmaass3605
@inyourgranmaass3605 2 жыл бұрын
@@alext399 that's why he ain't reply lol
@SOLIDSNAKE.
@SOLIDSNAKE. 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like that
@illicit008
@illicit008 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about myself.
@clearlydee9257
@clearlydee9257 Жыл бұрын
Can these books still be purchased? I remember my father telling me about what happened to Vader on a volcanic planet long before the RoTS.
@davidstorm2224
@davidstorm2224 2 жыл бұрын
I think Vader would have been an absolute terror to anybody with a new suit. With that made him physically stronger, gave him his mobility back and resistant to electricity. He would destroy Sidious. I think then he would focus on his losses and how no matter what he did he will never be who he once was. His physical pain wasn’t even half of what pushed him so far into the dark
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 11 ай бұрын
Very true.
@patricknez7258
@patricknez7258 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he kept the old suit as a way to punish himself more.. Maybe it also helped to insulate him from the world a bit, which he may have grown to prefer. He viewed himself as a monster and the suit helped him embody that role and lent a presence.. Just hearing his clomping footsteps would instill fear. Iconic
@andrewblack1648
@andrewblack1648 2 жыл бұрын
There's a subjective point that was NOT touched on in the video: guilt and self-punishment. Vader was haunted by guilt. Padme, his mother, the younglings, the destruction of Alderaan, etc. His own self-loathing undoubtedly played a considerable part in the desire to endure constant pain for the rest of his life.
@williamcortelyou9072
@williamcortelyou9072 2 жыл бұрын
Constantly being in pain has definitely helped a few sith lords. Sion had to constantly hold his own body together, and Bane had crazy bugs slowly covering his entire body, though they provided great armor, he was constantly being slowly eaten.
@kalevipoeg6916
@kalevipoeg6916 2 жыл бұрын
Luke's very presence weakened Vader, in my view. He could no longer fully envelope himself in hate and suffering when faced with such a reminder of his past, of Padme, and of who he really is. In Luke he would CONSTANTLY see Padme, and also his younger, more innocent self, and what's more, Luke didn't hate him - he had FAITH in him and drew out the light side in him more and more the more they interacted. "There's good in you - I can feel it." - Luke himself could feel that change. And THAT is what made Vader weaker around Luke than ever before - because he couldn't fully be suffering when he was proud of his son or secretly slightly happy that Leia, too, survived. He couldn't give his whole being to the dark side anymore. So Luke simply being his son and being there was an additional factor that weakened him which is perhaps why Luke fares better against him later on than the first time - it's not so much that Luke got stronger as it is that Anakin was awakening and Vader was dying - and Anakin didn't fully WANT to kill his son.
@bigredwolf6
@bigredwolf6 Жыл бұрын
Well yea, because Luke wasn’t a youngling anymore.
@irondudeful
@irondudeful Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU The outcome of ROTJ would’ve been the same regardless of Vader’s suit or power level Vader was already 1000% more powerful than Luke in ROTJ, he lost because he didn’t have the will to kill his son
@andrewgarrett1356
@andrewgarrett1356 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I saw Mother Talzan upgrade Darth Maul by essentially ripping out his insanity, restoring the top half of his body to perfect health, and giving him powerful cybernetic legs, I've often wondered how Vader would have turned out if the same happened to him. He would have had better cybernetic arms and legs, more potential in the Force due him having more flesh, and more mobility. I don't know if he would have been better off without the suffering to fuel his power in the Dark Side, but maybe he still could have overcome many of the weaknesses he had as Anakin by learning from his defeat against Obi-Wan. I also don't think he would have been as intimidating without the suit, unless Talzan made him look like he does in the picture at 5:07 in this video. He still could have worn armour obviously, but it wouldn't have been the same without the sound of breathing that sent chills down everyone's spines. All and all, I think that this Vader would have been powerful enough to kill Sidious as well as the Rebels' hope for a free galaxy. As for whether or not he'd be able to pull it off, I can't say for certain. It all would depend on whether or not he actually learned anything after losing to Obi-Wan.
@RickySpanish12344
@RickySpanish12344 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he chose to remain in that painful suit because on some level he felt he deserved it. He hated himself for losing Padme. I think if he was more like the other Sith, he would have risked dying to get an upgraded suit. Someone who truly craves power would rather die than be an eternal lap dog for someone else the way Vader was. I think if Vader had constructed a new suit that gave him great mobility, and was resistant to force lightning, he'd have been able to kill the Emperor. I think something that would have been really interesting is with a new suit that was insolated against Force Lightning, he could have developed robotic arms, and hands that could channel it from his upper arms so that he could develop the use of it.
@xGYM_GOATx
@xGYM_GOATx 2 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is overrated, dead and it sucks
@vsavatxr
@vsavatxr 2 жыл бұрын
@@xGYM_GOATx Nobody asked bestie💀
@jaymac3798
@jaymac3798 2 жыл бұрын
@@vsavatxr stop being cringe.
@jaymac3798
@jaymac3798 2 жыл бұрын
@@vsavatxr u got pronouns too my guy, this isnt tiktok or twitter.
@vsavatxr
@vsavatxr 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaymac3798 When did anyone bring up pronouns?
@rizegreymon4084
@rizegreymon4084 2 жыл бұрын
I know he was vastly powerful in the Dark side, but it's still impressive how well Vader does everything from combat to influence despite these suits shortcomings
@ericbeverly8700
@ericbeverly8700 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve found a truly badass rendition of Darth Vader’s suit that I think would be perfect as his new updated and advanced suit. This was quite an enjoyable video, all of the points make plenty of sense and one of them I was already aware of. I knew the suit boosted his hatred and anger, by the constant pain and discomfort he was in and that and upgraded version could lead to him losing some that power. Still, he could always draw on his most painful memories to boost his strength and annihilate his enemies. With as advanced as the Star Wars galaxy is, you’d think they’d have invented specialized healing chambers that could regenerate lost tissue and limbs. Has Vader never thought of building such a device?
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine didn't take sentiment or pain into account of his suit, if he did it would have been the difference to put them in the new suit.
@ericbeverly8700
@ericbeverly8700 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, I was already aware of this information.
@bigredwolf6
@bigredwolf6 Жыл бұрын
The chamber’s probably exist, but it may have been too late for it to work on his mangled body.
@zettkusanagi6322
@zettkusanagi6322 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine's training, behavior, and whole demeanor towards Vader reminds me of Shishio from Kenshin. Shishio kept a whole band of the best assassins around. Some stayed close to him because he promised them they could whenever attempt to take him out. Saito gives it some thought and concludes that as tough and powerful those assassins are, they never posed a real threat to Shishio. Palpatine rarely gives orders to Vader, and from day one he set him lose. Palpatine knew Vader was always trying to find ways to kill him. Vader strategized many plans such as the indirect founding of the Rebel alliance, he constantly recruited "semi-apprentices" always pushing the envelope, he also from day 1 never stopped training, always perfecting combat and his force powers. At the end of Episode IV, Palpatine's demise comes from his slight underestimation of Vader's power, a sliver of strength Vader kept from his master, a sliver of power extra he would always have hidden in once in a lifetime chance that would come one day. In the issue with his suit, I think there are 2 aspects of why he didnt upgrade. The First stems from his past. He was always a machinist, a prodigy mechanic and throughout his life we always see his affinity with artifacts. Contrasted with ObiWan who was more life/nature senstive, Anakin had an uncanny ability to use machines as extensions of himself. The most prominent example of this is his rescue of Palpatine from Grievous's ship. Its a very powerful scene from the opening of Mathew Stover's "Revenge of the Sith" book. The second aspect of this is Anakin's rage and force aptitude. In the same book from Stover, we get Anakin saying "this is not seeing," "this is not hearing," "this is not feeling.." He keeps saying about each of his senses as he newly experiences through his suit. The suit translated all his senses into electrical impulses. However, this was not Anakin's first time losing a part of his body. He had lost his arm early on, and discovered how to powerfully channel the force through his "ghost hand." The loss of more body parts was a challenge, but it also represented a chance to push himself to discover more abilities through the use of his now "ghost body." Having his affinity to machines also heightened his ability to focus his pain and rage and limitations to the force. Even after all his affinity and talent and rage, I think he knew, he always knew he would never be like before, ke knew he would never beat Palpatine like this. So he dedicated every moment devising a different plan while keeping the same suit. It would serve two purposes: remind himself of the grand plan, and would keep Palpatine at ease because he also knew could never be defeated by Vader like that.
@williamweygandt1623
@williamweygandt1623 2 жыл бұрын
You also forgot to mention what it did to him from a martial stand point. With every portion of himself becoming more physically weakened due too the loss of many finer motor skill it forced him to develop technique and skill to accommodate. An example to give would be his movements they presented in the video. As Vader he was forced to think plan and move 8 steps ahead of everyone and also know what someone was going to do merely from the little information AND before they actually did something in order to accommodate his body performing actions on delay.
@illicit008
@illicit008 2 жыл бұрын
I like Vader because he's cool
@juice1367
@juice1367 2 жыл бұрын
man id love a Star Wars: Darth Vader video game where there are a bunch of the suit concepts and designs as available cosmetics (and most importantly not behind a paywall) where you can just feel the raw power of Vader striking fear into enemies. The scene where he just mows down the rebels and they're banging on the door in fear is a great scene showing just how scary raw and powerful he was.
@natanhalili1978
@natanhalili1978 2 жыл бұрын
The final question can definitely be answered. It is stated that a fully intact anakin would have surpassed ever Sidius, as in without the suffering of the suit being used as his fuel. So if anakin was brought into almost his prime with a new suit he would be undoubtedly stronger as even sidius knew this
@darthzifdar7384
@darthzifdar7384 2 жыл бұрын
Sidious admitted it to Yoda.
@NaerenVastir
@NaerenVastir Жыл бұрын
if it was the pain and suffering that was giving him the extra power boost, all he'd need to do is get "the perfect suit" and just have like spikes or sandpaper or whatever sci-fi equivalent on the interior to keep the pain factor, but not hamper the important things like his speed, mobility, and strength.
@cartoonsentinel4256
@cartoonsentinel4256 2 жыл бұрын
Although the tradition had been for the apprentice to overthrow the master I believe Palpatine knew he might be too easily swayed to the light side if he were too comfortable. Only through constant suffering could he stay grounded in the dark side. This was clearly evident until he realized he had a son and that consumed his mind more than his suffering.
@MrMuziekman
@MrMuziekman 2 жыл бұрын
losing padme is his biggest suffering cuz i mean it ended up making him go to the darkside,iff i remeber right its bin a while xd
@demonoiac2975
@demonoiac2975 2 жыл бұрын
I would say losing his mother and Padme because of not saving them are what drew him to the dark side. Palpatine was exploting Anakin's suffering from his mother's passing to his advantage.
@angelohowardii8907
@angelohowardii8907 2 жыл бұрын
I think even if he had a new suit he might be suffering less but you don't forget suffering, i don't think a new suit would have weakened his connection to the darkside,just knowing palpatine handicapped him on purpose in the first place would be rage fuel for vader
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, he made the correct choice. He was able to kill the Emperor and bring balance to the force. Had he survived the upgrade, the Emperor may have been unable to trust him. The final battle would have been very different.
@blitzkrieg2928
@blitzkrieg2928 2 жыл бұрын
Yet he would've been far more powerful
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitzkrieg2928 , I totally agree. The question is, is that power relevant? It you can't get close to the Emperor, what good is the extra power?
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Palpatine was a psychopathic sadist Sith so of course he'd want Anakin to suffer in the Vader suit. I mean it makes sense as Anakin's whole purpose of turning to The Dark Side was to keep his loved ones and himself alive which is how he survived Mustafar's lava to become Darth Vader. I used to never understand why Anakin's fighting style had to differ from Vader's because Anakin Skywalker lost his limbs and partial connection to The Force after being weakened by Obi Wan's lightsaber attack cutting his remaining limbs and the lava bank on Mustafar burning him alive so it's not surprising he's slow because he's a cyborg now in a painful suit. I hope people don't complain about Obi Wan not using his lightsaber much because of course he wouldn't he was in hiding after Order 66. I hope the Obi Wan series shows how Obi Wan aged so fast because of Tattooine's double red suns, desert climate and constant fighting, hiding and stress from avoiding The Empire while dealing with Jabba The Hutt's mercenaries, Tusken Raiders, bounty hunters, Stormtroopers and watching over young Luke Skywalker, Owen and Beru . THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS. In the new Obi Wan series I want to see Obi Wan communicating with Qui Gon Jinn about that Force Ghost training and his run ins with the Sand People, young Luke Skywalker, Owen and Beru and even The Empire at times plus other Jedi, Sith, Force users and bounty hunters if possible. I always thought it was strange how Darth Maul could come back but not Mace Windu when Maul survived something extremely fatal while Windu definitely could've survived falling out a window after getting his hand cut off and blasted by Palpatine's Force lightning. I'm still catching up as I haven't watched all of The Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian or any of Disney Star Wars things since Rise of Skywalker but I'll check it out soon. I'm conflicted about the shows in light of Star Wars Lore. Seeing Luke Skywalker and Ashoka training Grogu and the next generation of Jedi is a dream come true of what I wanted The Disney Sequel Trilogy to be about now we'll never get that with The Original Trilogy cast. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). 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I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@veronicasandoval5767
@veronicasandoval5767 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kahless_the_Unforgettable it would matter Vader would have blasted sidious with red force lightening in his new suit and vaporize the emperor's blue lightening killing him in the process
@dequasont1063
@dequasont1063 2 жыл бұрын
@@justingary5322 please tell me you got an A* in english
@luxz1012
@luxz1012 Жыл бұрын
3:13 in The show kenobi you can hear him speak like anakin so his vocal cords are still intact also when hes is getting his burnt clothes removed from his body on the operating table you can hear him moaning and groaning.
@jaredhamon3411
@jaredhamon3411 2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting the differences between Canon and EU here. With Vader's use of Bacta tanks, The Emperor crushing (suit strength irrelevent), Vader upgrades (in canon were a lot more thorough), plus the overall better quality in canon, Vader has yet to complain ONCE about it.
@superitgel1
@superitgel1 2 жыл бұрын
Vader was always in a bad mood. Meaning he's complaining all the freaking time!
@swyzzlestyx
@swyzzlestyx 2 жыл бұрын
I always saw the suit as Anakin's form of self-flagellation.
@gooo1762
@gooo1762 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video!
@heerosanosyuy1173
@heerosanosyuy1173 Жыл бұрын
This channel is great. Thank you
@collinfossett7841
@collinfossett7841 Жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that in the new canon, they were going in a more “Vader-friendly” approach to the suit. To my knowledge they haven’t said anything about him being in immense pain due to the shot in the current canon, and they’ve made Vader much more agile in obiwan (which ofc came out after this video, so no points off for missing that obviously lol)
@Broncoburger
@Broncoburger 2 жыл бұрын
I think Vader was trying to extinguish the light that was still within him by constantly stuffing as sort of a punishment for killing the love of his life, and allowing his mother to die. Coincidentally and unintentionally tethering him to the love he felt for his mother and his wife(and their children) allowing him to turn back from the dark side. The new suit would have made him more powerful but may have made the light still existing inside of him detectable by the emperor due to the decreased suffering . He could have gotten help from someone like mother Talzin to switch suits if he was that dedicated to the idea.
@swistedfilms
@swistedfilms 2 жыл бұрын
In the novel "Death Star" it's said that removing Vader from the suit would be too dangerous, but Rogue One shows him out of the suit and in a bacta tank. Also, in ESB there's the scene of the commander seeing the back of Vader's head with the helmet removed. (The commander feared that Vader would be angry that he had been seen with his helmet off and thought there might be a "heavy price to pay" for it. He was relieved to be wrong.) So there's quite a bit of inconsistency in the narrative.
@WhoShorts_
@WhoShorts_ Жыл бұрын
because those aren't canon anymore lol
@cron1807
@cron1807 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that in the rebel hallway scene, the rebel thrown onto the ceiling got castrated via plasma
@foxaroundfindout
@foxaroundfindout 2 жыл бұрын
This question can be answered though. We just have to take into account Darth Bane, and his insect suit that could stop lightsabers as well as a lot of different force abilities, but force him to wear the helmet else he'd be consumed by them. Bane drew well on the dark side from his emotions, but it seems he got a good amount from his body as well.
@ethandoessomestuff...8949
@ethandoessomestuff...8949 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel even more sorry than I already feel for anakin.
@ConnorTheDestroyer
@ConnorTheDestroyer 2 жыл бұрын
I bought some of your Star Wars merchandise recently and it looks great!
@piercinglikelightproductio9382
@piercinglikelightproductio9382 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader probably made the right choice in keeping the agonizing aspects of his suite and fixing the debilitating aspects. This probably enabled him to be as powerful as he could be at that point.
@reaperoftheyeari4481
@reaperoftheyeari4481 2 жыл бұрын
Anakin even without the new suit was still the strongest character in the SW universe but I think if he changed to the new suit he would eventually turn back to light side way sooner as the lack of pain and suffering and also the existence of Luke would've worked. And also if he changed to the new suit he could've used his lightning abilities he couldn't use them in the old suit because its exposed to lightning attack and if he used his ability he would've killed himself
@ghostofsparta36
@ghostofsparta36 2 жыл бұрын
Well Vader is nowhere near to the strongest in the sw universe there are way stronger jedi and sith, such as Darth revan that dude was SWITCHED over and over again to dark and light side because of his master (sith) he became so powerful throughout that time that I bet he could kick Luke's ass if he was still alive
@dequasont1063
@dequasont1063 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you said, but Vader was the most powerful character in my opinion, Anakin was reckless, arrogant and had little strategy which is why he was bested by Obi wan in an extremely fair fight
@BibleBreakout
@BibleBreakout 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostofsparta36 in raw power - Anakin is the strongest - essentially infinite power as he was the living embodiment of the force. The key part of that word, of course, is body…and that was mostly destroyed in ROTS.
@TubiTuesdays
@TubiTuesdays 2 жыл бұрын
Because Palpatine would yell about the budget
@2003frontier4x4
@2003frontier4x4 Жыл бұрын
When he mentioned Vader would only be able to whisper with damaged vocal cords, I thought that would’ve been badass if Vader DID end up as a whisperer. That would be pretty intimidating as well. Dude just whispering some scary stuff at you before he goes all rage mode.
@yevod42
@yevod42 2 жыл бұрын
Fear impared Vader, from the start of his journey as Jedi, not his suit.
@45dlewis
@45dlewis 2 жыл бұрын
Going from the storyline that Vader did have another suit waiting in the wings for him, I would love to see something where the Starkiller clone finds the enhanced suit and uses it.
@dadda9463
@dadda9463 2 жыл бұрын
You guys keep my life worth living
@christianpelaez137
@christianpelaez137 2 жыл бұрын
That makes so much more sense!
@abdulbah2176
@abdulbah2176 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of upgrading to a new suit, what if Palpatine put Vader in Bacta before putting him in the suit?
@butterball2409
@butterball2409 2 жыл бұрын
We saw him in Bacta in Rogue One.
@abdulbah2176
@abdulbah2176 2 жыл бұрын
@@butterball2409 yea but what if Palpatine did that before tho. Vader’s skin won’t be fully healed but at least it’s something
@jangofett4547
@jangofett4547 2 жыл бұрын
U think Dickpatine cared abt him? His suffering made him even more angry and powerful just they way shitious wanted
@leejamesmccarthy
@leejamesmccarthy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jangofett4547 at least he never lost his head like you did jango lol
@NostalgiaGaming977
@NostalgiaGaming977 2 жыл бұрын
@@leejamesmccarthy 😳😳
@100waystoplay4
@100waystoplay4 2 жыл бұрын
There was a suit in a STAR WARS INFINITIES comic book where Vader's suit was simply converted to a white color with some blue eyes. But it has the same design and clunkiness. What if this new and improved suit, added after the comic, was the white suit instead?
@TubiTuesdays
@TubiTuesdays 2 жыл бұрын
Christ. Vader was in a living hell.
@OUTSIDER40
@OUTSIDER40 2 жыл бұрын
May the force be with you
@MegaDrainProductions
@MegaDrainProductions Жыл бұрын
Two Things: 1) We've seen Vader in a bacta tank. If the surgery was really so dangerous, make similar wiring or internals from his current suit that were already compatible with what's in his body to also be in the new suit. So the process would go much smoother. Or figure out a way to constantly pump Vader full of bacta or other healing substances while under the surgery. There seems to be a lot of easy solutions to have him be in a new suit since he has been confirmed to be able to be out of it. 2) Vader should implement a some kind of option that if he needs a burst of the darkside in the heat of battle or some kind of quick boost, make something where he turns on a button and the suit shoots spikes into his body or something to hurt him. If the new suit is designed to be resistant to force lightning, have the suit electrocute him for the quick boost and as a fear reminder of him still being a slave to Sidious, that would surely help. Anakin/Vader is a genius mechanic and as mentioned in the video has made modifications to his own cybernetics. So it shouldn't have been too crazy for him to do anything like this. As a brand, of course we can't change the design of Vader, but in universe there shouldn't be any reason this couldn't happen considering the entire concept of General Grievous being a thing and he wasn't even force sensitive.
@GilgameshGDLK
@GilgameshGDLK 2 жыл бұрын
His ability to be as awe-inspiring and fearful in such a "basic/archaic" suit goes to show that Vader truly was the strongest.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm 2 жыл бұрын
I really loved that George really transfered his abnormal meridian count to Vader so his connection to the force was still crazy strong. And the pain and hate made him push himself even while handicaped. So he may not reach that power he could have as a master Anakin if hed grow expirienced wise and fully im tune with his potential but pushed his own way where there were few who could best him. Even slow and static.
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ozone5150
@ozone5150 2 жыл бұрын
I think the need to make an alternate story line is a must! The new suit is awesome and so menacing! Maybe with the reprieve of physical pain his anguish over his devastating losses would in-able him to access a deeper understanding to the Dark Side!
@TheHeavenlyCzar
@TheHeavenlyCzar 2 жыл бұрын
I remember once upon a time, reading a novel that Vader spent a large portion of his impressive force related power focused on keeping him functioning in the suit. Beyond the basic abilities of hos prodigious lightsaber skills returning with a new suit, I believe that once focus could be used elsewhere if he didn't have to focus on keeping himself alive through the force. Even with a drop from less pain I think his sheer gains would be huge. That is of he could survive
@ScottyK184
@ScottyK184 2 жыл бұрын
A suit that can resist foce lightening would have ensured that he would have survived after the death star's destruction. I saw a similar discussion about his suit that he could have enlisted/trained force users to force heal a lot of his injuries. He would still require a suit but it would be more to assist him and enhance his abilities rather than full life support.
@Tabth3778
@Tabth3778 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely made the right choice keeping the old suit, the pain and suffering is what made him so powerful in the dark side of the force
@bon7029
@bon7029 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I got you a new suit. Vader: I cannot wear this suit. It would be a huge retcon. Palpatine: The hell is a retcon? Vader: I mean, err, umm, I might die in the process.
@relyaks463
@relyaks463 2 жыл бұрын
I come back to this channel every few years always to watch basically the same video he made 2 or 3 years ago just reuploaded
@algorithmoverlord1051
@algorithmoverlord1051 2 жыл бұрын
Although he was slow in his suit its crazy how efficient Vader was in that clunky suit
@krue14
@krue14 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as though Palpatine would only ensure a safe suit upgrade on the condition that Vader becomes even more subservient to him. Maybe something similar to the clones’ chip? This would have benefited Palpatine, possibly preventing his downfall and betrayal.
@guitar.forbeginners.withdave
@guitar.forbeginners.withdave Жыл бұрын
Quite surprised that he played it safe considering as a jedi he was quite reckless, yet absolutely fearless. Really interesting video. Thanks
@amochswohntet99
@amochswohntet99 Жыл бұрын
What a nice little story
@Lego-Joe-1
@Lego-Joe-1 2 жыл бұрын
Vader should have taken the new suit. Sure his suffering drew him closer to the dark side, but he would still suffer to a point. He may not be able to destroy sidious but he would be more efficient and effective
@EvilXero359
@EvilXero359 2 жыл бұрын
I can already imagine him pulling moves like how Fulgore fights in Killer Instinct. One particular move Fulgore has is his fast moving arm blade dash which he can follow up with a dragon punch
@Whykickamoocow
@Whykickamoocow 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvilXero359 I loved that game. It was the only fighting game I was any good at 🙂
@EvilXero359
@EvilXero359 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whykickamoocow yea, good times. I especially love hearing the announcer stutter and yell combo breaker when you free yourself from your opponent's combos. When I first started playing the first game my first character was the raptor wannabe, then as time went on my next main was the Tibetian ninja monk Jago till finally my best main would be Fulgore cause if you know what you're doing you can really put the hurt on your opponent
@Whykickamoocow
@Whykickamoocow 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvilXero359 I liked Orchid
@EvilXero359
@EvilXero359 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whykickamoocow Yep she was great and hot. Even more hotter in the second one
@jokerlugnut749
@jokerlugnut749 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can recall, the Sith of the Old Republic would often opt it to wearing or accepting painful augmentations. Some of their armor being SPECIFICALLY designed to inflict a certain amount of pain and discomfort. So, it had several related aspects. However, I think the real reason Vader didn't take the new suit wasn't just because he could die. Think about it. He lost his mother, the woman he loved, his child (at least he thought) and his greatest friend and teacher apparently betrayed him. After all that, on top of being effectively crippled, I doubt he had much ambition. So even if there was a chance that he COULD be stronger, I don't think he had the desire anymore. He was more an attack dog than anything else, and he knew it.
@marquise6613
@marquise6613 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a fast and agile version of darth Vader, def a top 3 most powerful characters in Star Wars
@15Kilo
@15Kilo 2 жыл бұрын
How about a Darth Vader series?! A series about Vaders trials and tribulations, from Vaders / Anakins perspective. That would be awesome!
@jamesbruch1808
@jamesbruch1808 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory although there are some holes. First of all, In return of the Jedi, Vader’s final duel with Luke has a definite lack of lightsaber choreography, however in canon, I would say that Luke was actually afraid to take on Vader physically. Vader was stronger in the suit with his mechanical limbs, and can fight with a lightsaber as well as anyone can without doing acrobatics. Luke’s main advantage was playing upon the positive emotions of Vader, which is a great tactic against the dark side, though it’s very situational. To that point, Vader is not encumbered by the suit, but rather can move quite deftly when necessary. In Obi Wan Kenobi, (spoilers sorry) we see Vader fight an inquisitor, and outmatches them easily without even using a lightsaber, he just moved out of the way of every strike. Second point, Vaders point of anger was actually against the Jedi and the old republic, which he thought had betrayed him, and so he wanted to create a new empire. This backfired when he realized Palpatine was the one in control, however that didn’t stop him from hunting down the Jedi and destroying them. He also was waiting for the perfect opportunity to end Palpatine the whole time. Thirdly, in Rogue one, we see him in a bacta tank without his suit on, just a respirator mask, which would indicate that he did not have the suit surgically grafted to him in that way however he would never survive without the suit. Also, I don’t think the suit was the cause of his pain, but rather he was in constant pain no matter what. This would also fuel his dark side rage. Lastly, I don’t think Vader ever really had a constant need to be speedy. While his mechanical leg didn’t necessarily help, his main power was in his sword, strength and force abilities. No one would need to rush at an enemy if they could just force choke them from 50 feet away. All in all, I don’t think a new suit is what Vader needed. If Vader ever really needed a new suit, then he would sanction it himself, and perhaps his risk of death would be high, however, not so unlikely that he would rather live in near death pain constantly. There’s a difference between suffering and torture. Constant torture would kill someone no matter who they are. Emotional damage is where the true suffering comes from.
@exschweizer
@exschweizer Жыл бұрын
If you take star wars seriously I wouldn't compare old (even prequel) star wars to disney star wars. Disney gives a flying f*ck about canon, therefore at least I personally see Dinsey star wars as a (bad, partly extremely bad) fanfiction project.
@JAEUFM
@JAEUFM 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Vader's lifespan would be if he had not been electrocuted by Palpatine, decades longer, could he have lived for more than a century or two?
@ignisinfernal1843
@ignisinfernal1843 2 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it definitely would be quite a bit longer than a normal human considering the light side especially tends to extend lifespans and his chosen one status and raw strength would probably help quite a bit. I'd imagine the suit also would help, though not sure quite how much compared to him having the extra power he had pre-Mustafar. Kinda makes me wonder if perhaps Yoda's species lives for so long because their strong connection to the Force and natural affinity for the light side instead of necessarily a biological reason.
@xX1PenguXx
@xX1PenguXx 2 жыл бұрын
i don't understand why he didn't force choke palpatine though-
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. 2 жыл бұрын
I think Vader should have used the Kaminoan's *highly advanced cloning tech* to commission the cloning of appendages, organs, and tissues - or maybe even an entire cloned body which he could then harvest for transplants. Because they would be cloned from his DNA, the chances of rejection would be very low - And with their near-utopian level of medical technology and the vast financial and technological resources of The Empire - it shouldn't be impossible for Vader to recover a fair degree of his former vitality. In the _Vader_ comics, Vader literally works with/fights a biotechnician who has horcrux clone bodies that his consciousness can switch between when he dies. The man is on infinite respawn. If he can do that, I don't see why Vader can't get some transplants and some bacta therapy to heal himself. As a matter of fact, I'm almost surprised permanent injury is even a thing in the SW galaxy - particularly for elites...
@lt_mayo7966
@lt_mayo7966 2 жыл бұрын
You have a perfect voice for horror podcasting
@VALINOR24
@VALINOR24 2 жыл бұрын
In spite of all the difficulties Vader's suit placed upon him, he thrived in it and overcame nearly everything and everyone that stood in his path; that I'd say is a testament to his power. Had he gotten a new suit without the pain and suffering, he risked losing his connection to the dark side and becoming Anakin again, neither of which Vader wanted.
@guts60
@guts60 2 жыл бұрын
The suit wasn’t weak. It could tank blaster bolts without so much as a scratch, especially around the gauntlets and his palms (turning his hands into a shield was common in the comics). Likewise, his hands could even hold a lightsaber’s plasma blade for an extremely small moment, allowing him to block swift attacks from Jedi and retaliate. Also, he wouldn’t have needed Palp’s help to live through the operation. If he was operated on while awake, the amount of pain he would feel would easily make him strong enough to keep himself alive. Remember how Maul was literally cut in half and fell down hundreds of feet and yet still survived through sheer anger and hate for Kenobi? And how Ana- I mean Vader survived Mustafar from sheer hate and anger until Palpatine saved him? And then he survived the original operation to be placed inside the suit for the first time, and Palpatine didn’t help him then either. He didn’t even know Padme was dead, and he was surviving despite how destroyed his body was. I’m sure with all the guilt Vader’s racked up, as well as hate in himself and Palpatine (it was common to hate your Sith master), he would easily survive the operation to put him inside a new suit. Also, Vader can survive in a Bacta Tank without his suit on. Bacta tanks can’t heal missing limbs, heal burn scars as bad as Vader’s, or heal broken or damaged organs. According to this video’s information, he wouldn’t be able to survive in a Bacta tank for long periods of time, or even somewhat “medium” lengths of time because there wouldn’t be any tubes going into his lungs and whatnot. And yet throughout certain comics he is suspended in a tank, with just a regular respirator connecting to the outside air with no tube down his throat. No armor. No monitoring systems. Nothing. A Bacta tank is just special liquid filled with a beyond extreme amount of healthy, useful bacteria (Bacteria, Bacta??), so they only heal minor wounds. Vader doesn’t change into a better suit because he doesn’t want to risk dying. In fact, Vader _really_ wants to die. He is racked with guilt. He wouldn’t mind risking it. However, he doesn’t see the point in the swap. His new suit would be much more agile, however it would be far less painful and not at all itchy. It would weaken his link to the dark side. His old suit, due to the pain and itchiness, makes him much stronger in the dark side. He also realizes that he doesn’t need to be quicker, he’s already adjusted to his new suit and became pretty agile already, just not nearly as much as he used to. He can run pretty fast. And even if he’s slow, that doesn’t matter. He still means death to any Jedi who face him, no matter how quick. Often times he toys with the agile Jedi, when he really isn’t trying at all. Most of the time, when he fights, he doesn’t even use the force as a weapon, or at all. There is no point in changing suits. He’s already compensating for the lack of mobility. If be had a better suit, then Jedi would actually _stand a chance_ for once. He may be quick now with his new suit and better cybernetics, but his connection to the dark side, being diminished a lot, would actually make him an opponent a lot of Jedi could stand against. The previous owner of Vader’s lightsaber, Kirak Infil, was the only Jedi Vader actually had trouble with… and that was with his original suit. If Vader wore a better suit, Kirak would have killed him.
@mozie9277
@mozie9277 2 жыл бұрын
The suit was indeed weak, the emperor purposely used the most outdated and hindered cybernetics in the entire galaxy to put together vader in order to punish him for his loss to obi, he lagged so much with this new suit he had to relearn everything. But apart from that i agree he used the pain and suffering this horrible suit gave him to fuel his anger.
@guts60
@guts60 Жыл бұрын
@@mozie9277 I meant the actually materials the suit was made out of. We even see in the OG Trilogy how powerful it is. Darth Vader kindly invites the rebels to dinner, and Han Solo shoots Vader… only for Darth Vader to raise his hand and block the blaster with his hand without any damage. I am aware that it is all outdated tech though. I should have been clear on that.
@adamvraden7915
@adamvraden7915 2 жыл бұрын
In the Sith Lords novel. It was mentioned he used the suit to remind him of his failure and strengthen his dark side connection.
@noahhollen8583
@noahhollen8583 2 жыл бұрын
He could have made a few minor adjustments like improved hearing sight adjustments on all his robotic limbs but keep the base suit
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he would've done well with the new suit.
@TamptheChamp2
@TamptheChamp2 2 жыл бұрын
I get that Palpatine wanted to punish Vader. But, things like poor hearing aids seem like they would cripple his efficiency in battle. You’d think Palpatine would’ve designed that better so that Vader could serve him more efficiently.
@j.franklin21
@j.franklin21 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't want to get overthrown.
@nathanskywalker1536
@nathanskywalker1536 2 жыл бұрын
That is Disney canon not George Lucas canon
@TamptheChamp2
@TamptheChamp2 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.franklin21 Vader couldn’t have overthrown Palpatine with basic proper equipment, like proper hearing aids, as long as his suit easily conducts force lightning.
@seanm4095
@seanm4095 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but being able to hear is crucial in a real battle. If your enemy is using stealth and your hearing is not up to snuff (pardon the pun) your screwd!
@aaronself2411
@aaronself2411 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanm4095 Sure, but like real people who lose one of their senses, the others compensate for that loss. In this case, it forced Vader to rely more on his own force abilities than he would otherwise.
@paulengels6926
@paulengels6926 Жыл бұрын
Vader should have multiple suits sent and then tried them all on while making a video describing how each suit fit and it's pros and cons. He would have gotten a million subscribers and likes. He could have been a social influencer.
@trentsmith232
@trentsmith232 2 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to if you think having more power with the force or having the agility of someone trained as a Jedi is what makes you more powerful
@khrispeter85
@khrispeter85 2 жыл бұрын
In Rogue One, we saw Vader’a body in a tank, most likely a bacta tank, without the suit. So obviously he can survive with the right equipment and transition into a new suit. There is a theory Vader became used to the pain and limitations with his body and the force and adapted to the suit over time, which made him much more connected to the Dark Side than given the chance it regain some normality.
@plusultra5175
@plusultra5175 2 жыл бұрын
Are you never going to do What is Qui gon trained Anakin part 3?
@Cyanoblades
@Cyanoblades Жыл бұрын
This is a hell of a way to explain the limitations of the 70s and 80s
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 2 жыл бұрын
lol "We can build you a suit to keep you alive, but absolutely nothing to keep you alive long enough to transfer you into another one."
@MrMuziekman
@MrMuziekman 2 жыл бұрын
hmm ineteresting plothole didnt even think abouth that
@officerrebar3839
@officerrebar3839 2 жыл бұрын
Vader could’ve moved to a new suit and kept the suffering and pain to remain powerful. He had the hatred and “betrayal” of Padme and Obi Won to focus on
@silvernexoknight
@silvernexoknight 2 жыл бұрын
So Awesome! 🖤🗡️
@jakg4
@jakg4 2 жыл бұрын
Arth Vader's suit is one of the most interesting and iconic looks in all of Star Wars.
@markbenand
@markbenand 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, this is old canon. New canon, Palapatine gave Vader permission to modify his suit at Vader's leisure. Vader also didn't have his connection to the force reduced in new canon. Rather, he can't use the darkside to it's fullest because darkside powers take a physical toll and Vader's poor condition meant that trying to push his power in the darkside to maximum would kill him. Unlike in the old canon, he sent Palpatine flying after learning Padme died with the force.
@yourmumgay7901
@yourmumgay7901 2 жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me in a galaxy so advanced they didn’t have a machine that could regulate his heart internally AND they couldn’t just pump oxygen into his blood?
@Synthwave89
@Synthwave89 2 жыл бұрын
Or they could have transplanted bio limbs, hell even clones of his own limbs using his own DNA. But ultimately it makes sense, Palpatine wanted to keep Vader in check and that shitty ass suit made him way weaker that Anakin's full potential, while still being an absolute machine against anyone else.
@Uaveatz2
@Uaveatz2 2 жыл бұрын
Millennium Falcon
@nehemiahvickers515
@nehemiahvickers515 Жыл бұрын
i like how the whole rouge one movie is just playing in the background lol
@michaelrobertson4896
@michaelrobertson4896 2 жыл бұрын
This could be an excellent subject to cover in a Star Wars What If series. If they ever decide to make one.
@cameroncoleman4516
@cameroncoleman4516 2 жыл бұрын
3:54 wait. So anakin didn't even hear obi wan say he loved him like a brother. And just screamed "I hate you" Thanks I'm crying now lol
@Butcherbg
@Butcherbg 2 жыл бұрын
I think the whole suit ordeal is quite overspoken. And here`s why: First as stated in the video itself, even if full suit swap >at once< (according to the video) was risky there is nothing that cannot be carefully and meticulously upgraded stage by stage with enough will to do so, knowhow and resources. So as he did minor adjustments I am sure every necessary aspect could have been "elevated" to an appropriate level. But ... But... I will start a straight up new paragraph for that: There is something that is >SEVEARELY< underestimated in the Vader >suit< videos. That something is simply how strong of a force user Vader is. It ... is ... not the suit... It have >never been the suit
@simonjack9699
@simonjack9699 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought was about being vulnerable that's the one thing we learn these days the more something has upgraded the easier it can be taken down look how many times like something like cybernetic or a monster gets upgraded and how easily it becomes much easier to take them down. Also we don't really know if it would even be possible to upgrade Darth Vader because of his health condition from the final confrontation on Mustafar. Example think about it it was never explained why Darth Vader couldn't wear a helmet outside of his black pod in Empire Strikes Back that's what I mean by because of his health condition it might have been nearly impossible to do any kind of upgrades to his suit that wouldn't put him at a health risk..
@zacbwayman3495
@zacbwayman3495 2 жыл бұрын
His painful suit is no longer cannon, he said it was acceptable. Thus I am lead to think he would make his own upgrades to his suit.
@ignisinfernal1843
@ignisinfernal1843 2 жыл бұрын
Technically it could still become canon as Vader probably would feel the same way about the panful suit out of wanting more power as well as self-loathing. But yeah as least for now that doesn't seem to be a thing. Also, I believe there were mentions of Vader upgrading his suit somewhere.
@betlaux656
@betlaux656 2 жыл бұрын
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@epicman9554
@epicman9554 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a what if series for Star Wars and where Vader gets a new suit just cuz I’d like to see how it would turn out
@lukesky6937
@lukesky6937 2 жыл бұрын
Palpatine was always looking for a stronger apprentice with the force to choose as a canadate to possess and use for a new body to replace his own.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just cut to the chase? Vader was afraid of EVERYTHING! Fear of losing those closest to him is what caused all this mess. Had Vader-kin been able to accept the reality of life and death, instead of trying to 'fix' the universe for childish reasons, it would have been a very different story.
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 2 жыл бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@ethos2822
@ethos2822 2 жыл бұрын
🔥
@TheEmpireDidNothingWrong
@TheEmpireDidNothingWrong Жыл бұрын
I've read up on how the suit and the agonizing pain it brings to Vader is what makes him Vader and all, but imagine if he did choose to upgrade. There could have been sequels by now.
@expelled6187
@expelled6187 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a comic/show that features Vader in the new suit
@cool-bro34
@cool-bro34 2 жыл бұрын
First
@MaxAndersonn
@MaxAndersonn 2 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader was afraid of upgrading his suit because Darth Jar Jar would destroy him.
@MaxAndersonn
@MaxAndersonn 2 жыл бұрын
@lolmfg lol 😂
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