Why Did Ancient Sith Lords HATE Palpatine and Darth Vader?

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Why Did Ancient Sith Lords HATE Palpatine and Darth Vader?
Palpatine and Vader are undoubtedly two of the most successful Sith of all time. Yet some ancient Sith did not believe this to be the case. In fact some believed that Vader and Palptine weren't really Sith at all. The most direct answer to this question comes from Darth Momin, an ancient crazed Sith who once tried to freeze a city in time just for fun. He believed that Vader and Palptine were too focused on the Jedi, and their hatred for them had ironically made them like the Jedi. Instead of proudly conquering and enslaving through the dark side, they instead built and ruled the galaxy through a technocratic bureaucracy much like the Republic, with even their Sith identities kept secret from the public.

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@gandpork Жыл бұрын

I like how whenever the sith disapprove of something it’s usually cause they just think it’s lame

@Camdenproductions20219 Жыл бұрын

It is

@dollscentedhunter2514 Жыл бұрын

Thats because siths are the cool popular kids that can do what they want and jedi are the lame narcks that thourougly explain to you that beating pre-schoolers to a pulp is "illegal" and supporting umiverse wide genocide is "moraly wrong".

@celeb-seventeen Жыл бұрын

@@dollscentedhunter2514....cause it is, whatchu taking about

@dollscentedhunter2514 Жыл бұрын

@@celeb-seventeen im making a joke about sith being cool kids and jedi nerds. Take a joke man

@celeb-seventeen Жыл бұрын

@@dollscentedhunter2514 ah my b homie, my b

@ursadabear2810 11 ай бұрын

I do love the idea that the force ghosts of Sith also follow around living Sith like the Jedi ghosts do, but they do it exclusively to talk shit about them until the Sith dies and joins the gossip club.

@JH-lw1fz 10 ай бұрын

Sith ghosts are trapped to a location, unless summoned via ritual. They really do heckle all the newer sith.

@abysswicked9076 9 ай бұрын

Palpatine gets thrown off the edge by Vader. Meanwhile: Malak: Haha, I told you this little bitch was gonna get betrayed by his boytoy! I knew it! Treya: You didn’t say that, that was Revan. Nihilus: *non-descript munching noise* He actually did say it first. Revan said Vader would be a good guy again first. Something about the Skywalker bloodline or some other Force bullshit. I just imagine the Sith like a frat house, and they’re just shit talking every new Sith now

@st4rw4rs4ulesyt 9 ай бұрын

@@abysswicked9076so basically, the pub in "How it should have ended"

@darling9413 9 ай бұрын

@@JH-lw1fzOh yes I think I heard about that. Due to Darth Bane creating the rule of two the dark side was suppressed around the galaxy and so they could only manifest in those rare truly dark side aligned locations like Korriban.

@darling9413 9 ай бұрын

@deepwaters2334 Жыл бұрын

Sith Lords hate this one easy trick to rule the galaxy...

@scottdecarlo815 11 ай бұрын

9000 level comment.

@803bucho 10 ай бұрын

Top tier comment

@TapCat 10 ай бұрын

The answer will shock you!

@sxcJOELisNotsexy 10 ай бұрын

The rule of two?

@EmporersWrath 10 ай бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽

@ar71498 Жыл бұрын

"They hate us cuz they ain't us" - Sheev probably

@kwolf506 10 ай бұрын

Wow you stole that from Black people...

@jamesbarnett8832 10 ай бұрын

@@kwolf506congratulations, you wanna fuckin cookie big man

@andrewt8004 10 ай бұрын

@@kwolf506you did not just play the race card on a goddamn joke

@kwolf506 10 ай бұрын

@andrewt8004 oh be quiet snowflake. Just pointing out the original creators of the quote.

@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 10 ай бұрын

@@kwolf506property can't own anything

@127mfan 11 ай бұрын

Momin: "Your methods are pathetic!" Sidious: "How many galaxies have you ruled? Yeah, that's what I fucking thought."

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

Momin: "And how many Jedi have you personally killed? Only what, 3? 4?"

@justsomeguywithoutacleveru4060 10 ай бұрын

@@alistermanase2581 Sidious: "yea cause I was to busy talking over the entire fucking galaxy"

@Canation89 10 ай бұрын

Why did I read that as the robot chicken palpatine

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

@@Canation89 Cuse that is the Real Palpatine.

@127mfan 10 ай бұрын

@@Canation89 It fits pretty well, ngl. 🤣

@Ghaltouni 9 ай бұрын

"Don't listen to them Lord Vader. They're just jealous of our drip and the insane amount of bitches we're pulling. They're basically the jedi council but with sith flavour"

@EchoSD 7 ай бұрын

"Vader, why are you crying- oh."

@Vulcar2500 7 ай бұрын

💀💀💀@@EchoSD

@MangoMojo 6 ай бұрын

@@EchoSDI don’t get it 💀

@FoxPrinceHope 6 ай бұрын

@@MangoMojoPadme 💀

@excellingdeicide2967 5 ай бұрын

EXACTLY🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣💯

@TetsuShima Жыл бұрын

Every single Sith watching Palpy conquering the entire galaxy: "It should have been me, NOT HIM!!!" 😭

@hamzahnurreez8420 Жыл бұрын

True 😂

@sandwichgg Жыл бұрын

Nah dude it's more like Sith:😺 move bitch

@hiddenvlogs7973 Жыл бұрын

...rule of 2. there were none

@kirby7294 Жыл бұрын

"It's not fair!"

@christianmcclaine6885 Жыл бұрын

@@hiddenvlogs7973ancient sith prolly

@vassilyvodka2638 10 ай бұрын

Ancient Sith: "You're boring!" 🤓 Palpachad: "What color is your galaxy?"

@der-Dritte 3 ай бұрын

Ok this made me laught

@user-jv6yu8bx1j Ай бұрын

@drydryd😂

@user-cj2tp9is8x 16 күн бұрын

What color is your death star

@TYLER-ff1fj 7 күн бұрын

What color of your galaxy mean

@raymondreddington5847 11 ай бұрын

Palpatine: "Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't hear your jealous blabbering over me me being THE SENATE"

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

Sith: You only got there cuse your master put in all the hard work before you smothered him to death with his own pillow since your a little bitch that knew he would smack your ass from here to Tatooine in a fight.

@eddychong9477 Жыл бұрын

Darth Momin: Buddy, you're just a cheap f**king knockoff Palpatine: No no no I'm the upgrade

@MichaelAMyers1957 10 ай бұрын

You ever notice that “ the boys “ is just The ghetto justice league

@TheTattleTaleStrangler 10 ай бұрын

Love hoe that quote wasn't actually badass: "upgrade? Buddy, you're wearing a cape"🤡

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

@@MichaelAMyers1957at least the show is better than the comics

@MichaelAMyers1957 10 ай бұрын

@@levicarpenter5509 I never read the comics before. I like the show though. It’s a truer version of justice league. Like let’s be real. If someone had the powers of Superman, they’re not going to be mr perfect like Superman. I know damn well if I had his powers, I’d be like homelander or worse

@brownieboi1691 10 ай бұрын

@@MichaelAMyers1957literally the entire purpose 💀

@vasudeanguy8523 11 ай бұрын

I think though that Darth Bane described the Sith rather aptly. "Sith are not a fire blazing through the galaxy. They are a poison. Spread that poison across too many cups and you won't even upset their stomach. However, concentrate it into one and even the strongest will succumb." That's why he reimposed the "Rule of Two."

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

And yet it ended with two Sith that at best measure up at the same level of skill as a standard Sith.

@KingJohnMichael 10 ай бұрын

@@alistermanase2581no

@lordvika2526 10 ай бұрын

No Bane created the rule of two

@smugsuphia7846 10 ай бұрын

He described it as venom, not poison. Similar, but not interchangeable. Still, the rest of the quote is largely accurate.

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Palpatine despised the rule of two that his favorite sith world's where one's that operated under a single sith lord instead of a master and apprentice

@aamirrazak3467 Жыл бұрын

I never knew the ancient Sith were haters, I figured on some level they would’ve been proud Sidious and Vader succeeded in defeating the Jedi and taking over the galaxy

@wlfshadow4255 Жыл бұрын

Nah the ancient sith hated them because of how they did things the sith probably liked the plan but hated what happened with the power Sidious and Vader got oh and bane probably hated those who broke the rule of two and the seramonial way of going about the master and apprentice dule and learning process

@PlaguedByEarth 11 ай бұрын

Being a hater is practically a prerequisite for becoming a Sith.

@wlfshadow4255 11 ай бұрын

@@PlaguedByEarth there is a sith in a certain mining colony that would disagree with you on that one

@pancakes8670 11 ай бұрын

The Sith are selfish, it's a core part of their ideology. They literally can't be anything other than Selfish, otherwise they wouldn't be Sith

@wlfshadow4255 11 ай бұрын

@@pancakes8670 there is a sith that died with people who loved him around him

@cobaltprime9467 10 ай бұрын

“He’s not even a real -goth- Sith. Let’s get out of here.”

@rickeydart3040 10 ай бұрын

Vader and Sidious are Vamp-Sith

@Real_Tio_Benny 9 ай бұрын

Palpatine: “I am the most successful Sith in history.” Momin: “Yeah but you’re lame as fuck.”

@NayuzAqua 2 ай бұрын

"Says the guy without a Death Star"

@reidhirsh3338 Жыл бұрын

The Sith Empire of Old was a Military and Hierarchy regime, where the strong dominated, enslaved and eliminated the weak and useless with borderline extreme prejudice. Of course the ancient Sith would disapprove and despise Vader and Palpatine's means and methods of ruling the known galaxy with ways that are similar to that of the Republic with government and bureaucracy. The Pure Blood Sith before the Dark Exile were a society where only the strong survived since their world was a harsh and rough place to live and call home and had no desire for galactic conquest. But when the Dark Jedi arrived, interbreed with the Sith, became worshipped as Gods and changed their society and culture as a whole, it gave birth to the Old Sith Empire we all loath and despise.

@Cavalier1645 11 ай бұрын

You may loath and despise it. But i do not

@Samael6685 11 ай бұрын

@@Cavalier1645🤝🏻😈

@reidhirsh3338 10 ай бұрын

@@mintmess True but unfortunately, the Old Sith Empire while powerful as it was in its prime, still suffered from the backstabbing, infighting and power plays of the Sith that slowly but surely brought it to its inevitable ruin. Bane's Rule of Two while necessary and gave the Sith its long overdue vengeance in time, it did also make them a hollowed shell of its once feared and dreaded self.

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

@@reidhirsh3338And ended with two Sith that would be mediocre at BEST back in the day of the Sith Empire.

@Googleisstupid-sk3hm 10 ай бұрын

@@alistermanase2581Funny? Considering George Lucas himself said sidious was the most powerful sith lord Vader. Then Vader the literally force child? Weaker than sith before him? Following that logic Yoda and grandmasters Luke would be weak against older jedi of past 😅.

@thelordofthelostbraincells Жыл бұрын

Emperor palpatine: Ok boomer. But who is the emperor of the galaxy again? Oh yeah, *ME!*

@rivenoak 7 ай бұрын

for how long did he reign ? :p

@Highasamf 4 ай бұрын

@@rivenoakLonger than any other

@rivenoak 4 ай бұрын

@@HighasamfVitiate would like to have a word with you on length of rule ;) technically Sheev P. could not rule the galaxy, only former republic space and obviously not each of the ~1000 systems accepted his reign.

@TheGoodLuc 2 ай бұрын

"Who exterminated Jedi? Me!"

@rivenoak Ай бұрын

@TheDutchPagan as Valkorion he kicked ass in Zakuul and brought republic and sith empire on their knees. the "galactic empire" Palps boasted so much about was a pitiful version compared with the deeds of Vitiate, sorry. :D maybe Bioware was just cheeky with their god imperator and poked lucas a bit. they were able to do so because AFAIK the contract witch Lucasarts gave them almost unlimited rights to create villains and heroes as much as they wanted in their chosen era. the old rep events do not collide with movie era, so everything is fair and if it looks like the old emperor would wipe the floor with Sidious, then it is part of that ancient timeline.

@LylatKnight Жыл бұрын

Jar Jar is the real Sith Lord.

@sitsia3808 Жыл бұрын

Darth Jar Jar

@rambojack5606 Жыл бұрын

Even tho he is clumsy and funny but he managed to manipulate the Jedi without imposing his hatred to them

@deepwaters2334 Жыл бұрын

🌚

@jamestomlin5525 11 ай бұрын

@@rambojack5606originally that was his cover, who would suspect a fool to be a master? George scrapped it tho lol

@SergyMilitaryRankings 11 ай бұрын

@@jamestomlin5525yeah, sadly the reception of jar jar was overwhelmingly negative

@michaelblower7363 Жыл бұрын

Banes Sith had to hide out of necessity. So of course their tactics had to change.

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

Cuse Bane murdered the rest by tricking them into using a Suicide Ritual.

@rivenoak 7 ай бұрын

@@alistermanase2581 to be honest: killing the Brotherhood of Kaan was a mercy; those sith were utter useless

@DARTHBLUNT713 5 ай бұрын

Yes the thought bomb@@alistermanase2581

@TheForcesWrath Жыл бұрын

That's why Darth Viciates time was the best for the Sith, The Old Republic was filled with millions of Force sensitives on both sides of the force led by proud leaders who weren't afraid of meeting their enemies in open battle. The Rule Of Two was a stupid gamble that failed hard.

@darthtenebrous965 Жыл бұрын

I agree it was a gamble, but The Rule of two was more of a Pyrrhic Victory. It’s main goal was to prevent infighting against the Sith and operate secretly to eventually destroy the Jedi order. In which it succeeded in doing that even if it was for only a limited amount of time.

@i_am__majestx7746 11 ай бұрын

The Rule of Two did what ancient sith couldn't - made permanent power vacuum. Whether regarding Legend's ABY or Canon ABY(after the fall of Final Order) it's solely because of this Rule that it's clear sith or dark side users will return to take that power vacuum. Because Jedi and Light side can not exist without Dark side. It means the destruction of Balance

@moe5020 10 ай бұрын

bro what do you mean failed? they successfully wiped out the rest of the sith and then palps destroyed the Jedi with their own republic and turned force jesus to the dark side. Yeah Luke defeated him eventually but basically all jedi knowledge and culture was lost in the purge and the new republic Jedi are a completely new sect. It's like saying Caesar failed hard because he got assassinated even though his legacy effects our entire culture to this day.

@umbralowl 9 ай бұрын

@@moe5020 Palpatine failed by recruiting the person with a prophecy of bringing balance to the force. Anakin was the chosen one. The Sith being in control isn't balance. And Anakin was the one who threw Palps off the death star

@moe5020 9 ай бұрын

@@umbralowl No Anakin would have brought balance regardless. Palpatine didn't fail because he killed more jedi then anyother sith.

@ESSTrains Жыл бұрын

This is a very underrated star wars channel, I love how you cover so much obscure lore

@spynix0718 11 ай бұрын

"Why did the ancient sith hate Vader and Palpatine?" Because those sith are dead, and Vader and Palpatine, are not.

@firstnamelastname9237 10 ай бұрын

Aren’t they?

@powerleech7057 10 ай бұрын

@@firstnamelastname9237Well, somehow, palpatine- _explodes_

@firstnamelastname9237 10 ай бұрын

@@powerleech7057 *dramatic gasp*

@MrBROTHERFELDER 9 ай бұрын

A: Because they viewed Palp & Vader as “Sithys”😄

@emeraldeditzam 6 ай бұрын

@@MrBROTHERFELDER😄😄😄😄

@dennissluijk1789 11 ай бұрын

Palpatine: "they hate us cause they ain't us!" Vader "oh yes *inhale* das a great saying"

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

Malak: No we hate you cuse your completely and utterly inept at ruling.

@simonrief1013 10 ай бұрын

I think many sith would have different reasons Bane because Palp broke the rule of two Momin for not beeing the absolut individuals, but beeing hidden byrocrats Nihilus for not have eaten even one planet so far... etc But as you can see at the example of darth Krayt, no matter how you do it, no sith master will ever be happy with you doing

@joshbuxton8249 10 ай бұрын

Momin: "You aren't real sith" Palpatine: "What color is your bugatti?"

@seanreynolds7369 11 ай бұрын

Palpatine be like: yeah but did you actually defeat the jedi?

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

The Acient sith did and their empire lasted more than 20 years

@diegograjeda7611 10 ай бұрын

In a way, I am glad the Sith Lords have a code of honor of their own. Imagine how broken would they be if they had fully adopted the instantly turn on/off lightsaber...

@meghancraft77 Жыл бұрын

I really never knew that some Sith Lords hated others. Awesome video btw.

@ilovemacaroons5229 Жыл бұрын

I'm kinda confused about the fact that ancient sith who died eons ago and couldn't ever know about papls and vader hate them. Something doesn't add up here🤨🤨🤨

@DirtyStinky Жыл бұрын

Sith spirits were still alive usually tied to an object or tomb. They were still conscious but couldnt really move on to an afterlife so to speak.

@robertharris6092 Жыл бұрын

@@DirtyStinkyhow would they know of anything going on in the galaxy or the govorning of said galaxy locked up in a tomb though?

@Townes888 Жыл бұрын

@@robertharris6092Maybe their ghostly presence is like the jedi ghosts

@DirtyStinky Жыл бұрын

@@robertharris6092 Couldve communicated with darth vader/palpatine at some point when they try to gather knowledge. Could just be sith magic. Both vader and palpatine kept an assortment of sith artifacts some were directly tied to sith spirits.

@infinityactually6166 Жыл бұрын

It's for the same reason Yoda and Obi Wan were force ghosts and still knew the current state of affairs when they were training Luke. The force is everywhere.

@Weezy_F_Dende Жыл бұрын

Nah they wrong for hating on sideous. Bro was literally the hitler of Star Wars. Jedi be best friends with clone troopers and sidous made them kill each other, nearly drove all the Jedi to complete extinction, took over the entire galaxy, and brainwashed everyone into thinking the Jedi were bad people.

@darkrain491 11 ай бұрын

Thats what makes Sidous more evil than the old Sith. Sidious is evil in motivations and actions. The old Sith believed that you had to be strong to live, so put their people through cruelty to weed out the strong. The old sith committed evil because they thought they were morally justified. In a way, the old sith were just had very extreme military mindset. How drill instructors weed out the weak recruits. The Sith however just killed the weak. They weren't selfish power hungry tyrants, they fundementally believed that to be weak was to be disgusting and amoral. They had twisted morality, but they still had morality. Palps has ZERO morals. He would do ANYTHING to win, just because he wants to win. He fundementally can't just not win. He doesn't even have a reason to fight the Jedi. He literally could have ruled the galaxy without killing them. He wiped them out just because. Palpatine is pathetic in the eyes of the old Sith, and is Infinitely more evil than them.

@DimaMuskind 11 ай бұрын

@@darkrain491Palpatine kinda had a reason to eliminate the Jedi - get revenge for the past Sith. Also, there was always confrontation between light and dark, Jedi and Sith, they cannot live in peace with each other

@peaceweapon1933 11 ай бұрын

@@darkrain491Marka Ragnos ruled the galaxy for 100 years. Sidious couldn’t even manage half that. Maybe he should have been a bit more like them

@darkrain491 11 ай бұрын

@@peaceweapon1933 I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not, it sort of sounds like you're correcting me, but like based on what you said we should be agreeing because my entire point was that while Sidious is more evil than any other Sith, he also isn't a good Sith because his goals were ultimately Selfish, not selfless towards the Sith's ultimate goals. Traditional Sith are evil, but not selfish. Power is a means to an end for them, the end being the furthering of the Sith Ideology. Whereas Palpatine is just an evil bastard.

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

@@darkrain491nigga one Acient sith was so powerful in the dark side that the planet he stays on is devoid of the force and is a complete husk of lifelessness, on Acient sith stayed alive for years through sheer anger and hate alone you don't do that by not being pure fucking evil

@crimsonfire6932 Жыл бұрын

Wait until momin finds out Vader was one of the most famous Jedi of his time. His criticism isn’t wrong. Since both Tyranus and Vader were ex Jedi, the Sith essentially spent their last 30 to 40 years of existence made up of failed Jedi that were embittered with the order, rather than genuine Sith adherents. Is it any wonder then, that Sidious’s apprentices were focused on expert level lightsaber combat, the state of the republic, and doing as much damage to the other side as possible, rather than building up the Sith order? Sidious is the most guilty for enabling this because he didn’t want the Sith to grow anymore, he wanted it to culminate and terminate with him. He had more apprentices than any previous Sith (3 as opposed to the usual 1 and occasional 2 if the first failed) yet none of them succeeded in fulfilling the rule of 2 and continuing the Sith lineage. It’s all because Sidious himself was too selfish, even for a Sith. All previous Sith acknowledged that they were merely mortal, and that they needed apprentices to continue their work after their death, otherwise there was no point to any of it. Sidious had no such consideration. He was content to destroy the Jedi and have the empire croak at the same time that he did.

@Sirstarscream569 11 ай бұрын

The most successful sith are the most hated cause they knew what needed to be done for their victory

@GuitarxWolf 10 ай бұрын

Palpatine: “Yea okay Momin, just keep terrorizing that little insignificant small minuscule tiny city, I’ll just be over here ruling the whole damn galaxy…”

@lTSVlBE Жыл бұрын

Palpatine literally killed most of the Jedi. Then used the Jedi’s own prophecy guy against them. If they don’t cut this man some slack

@darkrain491 11 ай бұрын

Yeah but killing the Jedi is such a pathetic goal. Palps Empire lasted what? Twenty years? That's a blink of an eye in the broad scheme of things. The old sith Empire lasted centuries or more, proving that their way was better. It lasted longer. Palp's selfishness is a prime example of how NOT to be a Sith. True Sith are thinking of the the continued survival of the Sith, not their own personal success.

@lumonox 11 ай бұрын

@@darkrain491Sith have wanted to destroy Jedi for thousands of years it isn’t a “pathetic” goal but very close to succeeding in the goal that Sith have always wanted

@darkrain491 11 ай бұрын

@@lumonox It's pathetic. Destroy a faction of people you disagree with? Pathetic. The Sith could literally just leave the Jedi alone and they would be much more successful.

@lumonox 11 ай бұрын

@@darkrain491 Bro what the Sith and the Jedi have been sworn enemies… the dark side and the light side of the force… and taking out the only people that could stop you from ruling the galaxy (Jedi) is the smart thing to do. Why do you think the Jedi tried to kill all the Sith? They’re two opposites who both want to rule the galaxy so tell me how the Sith could possibly leave Jedi alone with that goal.

@lumonox 11 ай бұрын

Another side note, the Sith increase their power from hate. So hating the Jedi from thousands of years of war only strengthens their power

@Rad_Nicole 11 ай бұрын

Would be cool to see Vader and maybe even palpatine fight these ancient sith in like a comic or something.

@alistermanase2581 10 ай бұрын

I can already see Vader losing bad and Palpatine getting thrown around like a ping pong ball.

@alistermanase2581 Ай бұрын

@TheDutchPagan You obviously haven't seen any of the ancient Sith NOT of the Order of Bane.

@martinnilsen501st Жыл бұрын

Making the rule of two is regarded as a legendary moment for the sith. Ruling the galaxy from the shadows by making others be evil for you? Truly a masterpiece! Good thing earth is more like the jedi republic❤️…👀

@CompendiumofLux 11 ай бұрын

The world has been ruled countless times by people who made others commit atrocities for them. Just look at 80 years ago

@MrBROTHERFELDER 11 ай бұрын

You don’t think there’s an invisible evil force influencing the earth right now?

@martinnilsen501st 11 ай бұрын

@@MrBROTHERFELDER not saying there is! But likely someone is trying, maybe😅 Some people eat pineapple on pizza…people do all kinds of crazy things!

@MrBROTHERFELDER 9 ай бұрын

@@martinnilsen501st True, people do crazy and even evil things on their own, but when you consider the gross wickedness and cruelty we see in the world today, doesn’t it seem like humans are being influenced by an invisible evil power?

@martinnilsen501st 9 ай бұрын

@@MrBROTHERFELDER hinted at irony with 👀! These days its obvious…

@shadownight9956 4 ай бұрын

Darth Vitiate🗿: "oh yes its all coming back together."

@shadownight9956 Ай бұрын

@TheDutchPagan you must be a twitter user You know nothing about vitiate and yes i know palpatine is strong af especially in legends but vitiate is literal dark side him self

@CoolGuy100lovesgames 10 ай бұрын

Ironically pissing off all previous Sith Lords and just doing whatever gives you more power is the most sith thing you could do.

@nomic655 Жыл бұрын

Palpatine was undoubtedly the most successful Sith of all time. The arguement that he "became like the Republic" is flawed and (imo) egoistic. Palpatine infiltrated the Republic from the inside, corrupted it and took over, while every other Sith tried defeating it with violence and failed. And even if a Sith did succeed through violence, due to the galactic scale bloodshed there would be no galaxy to govern anymore. As for Vader, his hatred towards the Jedi is entirely justified. He was incapable of reaching his full potential because of them. However, Vader was never even meant to be a Sith, even less a successful one. Arguing over him being an unsuccessful Sith is the same as arguing over an airplane being unsuccessful in driving alongside cars in the same roads. Long story short, ancient Sith were just salty af.

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Bro he ruled for 2 years and brought the downfall of the sith through his greed and shellfishness

@midniteryder_3-16 6 ай бұрын

@@levicarpenter5509meh, the so-called ancient sith were no better…

@kingworm6l6 Жыл бұрын

ANCIENT. that means past. How could ancient sith lords know anythinng about palpatine or vader when they wouldnt be born for at least 1000 more years.

@MasterJade Жыл бұрын

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

@Im_braindead Жыл бұрын

@@MasterJadeGood one, this statement fits here so much

@DelanoSeven7 Жыл бұрын

We literally saw force ghosts in the 3rd film of the franchise and y'all still confused ?

@jimkid1392 Жыл бұрын

@@DelanoSeven7And I suppose they got that information from interviewing them. "I'm here with the force ghost of Darth Edgelord to get his take on the current administration" "Y'all lame!"

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

@@DelanoSeven7bro how do you not know that sith can't become force ghost

@rohitkumarlal3401 6 ай бұрын

Ancient sith be like : f*ck it we ball

@gamberoy4433 11 ай бұрын

Momin was upset that they did it smarter. Lol

@firstnamelastname9237 10 ай бұрын

One turned light side and killed the other and they never truly recovered. Their empire, run much in secret, lasted only around 20 years all of which with very active rebellion they never quelled. The Jedi meanwhile started coming right back. Sequel trilogy being an exception.

@christopheredwards9904 Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's a lot easier to control the entire galaxy when they don't think you're a complete sociopath.

@Spacey_key Жыл бұрын

Palpie being a politician was a well known fact

@MrBROTHERFELDER 11 ай бұрын

@@Spacey_keyYep. “He’s a politician, you cahhn’t trust them”-Obi-Wan Kenobi.

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Yet the sith empire ruled for centuries while palps empire ruled for 20 years

@xx_gamerberg_xx 25 күн бұрын

⁠⁠@@levicarpenter5509 The entire SW Galaxy > a section of the SW Galaxy

@Townes888 Жыл бұрын

They hated them because vader and palpatine implemented the best possible way for sith to rule the galaxy

@GreaterGrievobeast55 Жыл бұрын

The sith are just like any group, Traditionalists fits at any change. Even beneficial ones.

@exonymousprime 11 күн бұрын

Yet they only ruled the whole galaxy for 20 to 30 years when the old Sith Empire ruled half the galaxy for over a thousand years out in the open battlefield fighting the Jedi and Republic, not acting like cowards in the shadows and bearly getting to rule for a few decades. The Old Sith Empire ruled over 1,000 years vs The rule of two Sith ruled for like 20 to 30 years. Yeah, it's pretty clear, which had the better plan the Old Sith Empire

@nickmattio3397 3 ай бұрын

“Hai Ate Chew!”-Ghost Momin to Palpatine

@Sacrificiumcontrol 9 ай бұрын

As my name is momin I see this as an absolute win

@Unpluggedx89 10 ай бұрын

Momin: "You guys suck!" Palpatine: "Shut the fuck up brokie! What color is your Bugatti?!"

@emperorbarina 11 ай бұрын

Ehhh, Palpatine REALLY was the most successful out of them all.

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Not really

@emperorbarina 10 ай бұрын

One of the most evil tho.

@OmniSphinx 9 ай бұрын

@@emperorbarinaYou're right.

@crazywave6574 28 күн бұрын

Palps: “smiling through it alll. Can’t believe this my life!!”

@Visch8826 10 ай бұрын

i bet none of them had the executor and eclipse star destroyers tho

@lTSVlBE Жыл бұрын

The galaxy literally knew the sith were the bad guys at this point. Having it be known they were sith would’ve just ended their reign way sooner then later

@michaeldegooijer7401 11 ай бұрын

Seriously, if you fail one way in trying to conquer a galaxy (which the Sith have in the past) then it time to try something different. And that's what Palpatine did

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Bro the sith empire stood for centuries while palps empire stood for 20 years how did the Acient sith fail in conquering the galaxy

@midniteryder_3-16 6 ай бұрын

@@levicarpenter5509tall tales compared 2 sidious’ actual results!

@levicarpenter5509 6 ай бұрын

@@midniteryder_3-16 if you think ruling the galaxy for 20 years isn't actual results then what it

@doubleoof7907 4 ай бұрын

@@levicarpenter5509Yeah and the sith empire was effectively relegated to the outer reaches of the Galaxy whereas Sidious got basically all of it

@vicsterX 9 ай бұрын

Sidious & Vader: *suffering from success*

@originalSiiiN 9 ай бұрын

how can an Ancient Sith Lord hate a Sith Lord from the future?..

@madmonkeymob34g12 11 ай бұрын

Palpatine: “They hate us cause they ain’t us”

@rKhael53 9 ай бұрын

- You forgot FUN ! - Sorry, can't hear you through my Chess in 4D Galactic scale game B-) *grabs pop-corn as the two factions he rules fight to the death just as intended*

@Juicytoasty 18 күн бұрын

Palpatine- “They hate us, ‘cuz they ain’t us.”

@mikaelwojciechowski7281 2 ай бұрын

As a Scandinavian, Momin made me laugh, as it made think of the Moomins 😂

@mahdiesmaili7782 Жыл бұрын

Ancient siths: Nuh theynot n@zi enough

@chatongarou7665 10 ай бұрын

Every old siths when Palpatine Dies and brings an end to the sith order because of his greed : "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO"

@jeffreyconner2937 Жыл бұрын

They obviously disapproved of Papaltine being a politician.

@The_Artisan313 10 ай бұрын

That’s actually a cool way to think about the two, props to whoever wrote that

@KickYouInTheThroat 10 ай бұрын

They may not like it, but this is what peak Sith lording looks like.

@impeccablebybirth 11 ай бұрын

The point of the sith rule of two is so that the sith always gets stronger. I imagine they hated palpatine because he started to hoard and wanted to be the sith forever.

@acelilumelody4445 8 ай бұрын

Ancient sith: your methods are lame Palpatine: oh yeah? What colours your death star?

@NayuzAqua 2 ай бұрын

Sidious: Nah they're mad that we can make Death Stars

@TheKhanofKhans Ай бұрын

Ancient Sith:„Nah we’re mad cuz you are a weakling. We didn’t even need Death Stars to destroy planets.”

@user-vk4sh1te1j 20 күн бұрын

Also in episode 10 at 1:38. Mual wonders about a “time upon them” referring to the creation of Vader from palpatine

@doubleoof7907 4 ай бұрын

A lot of the people seem to be missing a point: The ancient sith were essentially the proud warrior culture trope and thus they thought Palpatine’s way of conquering the galaxy was lame and for doodoo baby cowards

@aircoolguy5218 5 ай бұрын

“They hate us because they ain’t us 🙏” -Vader and Palpatine

@ketchupedits4253 5 ай бұрын

“You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!”

@crazywave6574 28 күн бұрын

“Weather u like em or u don’t like em there’s nothing u can do about em because he’s number 1” - dr umar johnson😂

@mbeu15a 24 күн бұрын

Bureaucracy is more terrifying than freezing time.

@Pvarryboing 3 ай бұрын

"Freeze city in time.." Oh damn thats cool "....for fun" ☠️⁉️

@H.Munchy1219 11 ай бұрын

Anyone here curios what it would be like to see sith lords from the old era to now playing monopoly together?

@murrayshekelberg9754 8 ай бұрын

I heard Darth Cognus was cyber-bullying Palpatine and called him a poser.

@gliderfs621 10 ай бұрын

Kreia : compared to ancient sith and jedi, we are children playing with lightsabers

@TheCyberGoblin 10 ай бұрын

I am yet to see Darth Momin’s name without reading it as Darth Moomin

@VTsiFanfic 10 ай бұрын

He froze a city in time so he wouldnt forgor it. We moomin now.

@lordtaitos4212 9 ай бұрын

I love the idea they are hated because they didn’t grab the villain ball hard enough.

@RobertHunt-tn4jz 5 ай бұрын

The day I got the Knights of the Old Republic I stayed up all night long playing it it was cool to see Sith soldiers with permission others continue the story of the movie I went to see in 77

@hartyewh1 10 ай бұрын

Darth Moomin? This is an interesting crossover I must say😮

@m.t-thoughts8919 9 ай бұрын

Ngl freezing a whole city in time for the laulz is a bigger flex then to rule galaxies

@TheWTFsauce 9 ай бұрын

I like how at the base of the philosophies the sith just think it’s cowardly to just work from the shadows and strike at the right moment even though there are sith assassins, while the Jedi think following one emotions can lead one to the dark side but it’s ok the bone whenever or whoever so long as you don’t marry

@Captainkebbles1392 10 ай бұрын

Palps def felt more like the guy who has Sith allegiance but has his own goals and actually, in a messed up way, wants to have a peaceful and ordered galaxy vs just a play house of a galexy

@morganyoung3557 10 ай бұрын

Translation: they were jealous that Darth Sidious and Darth Vader succeeded in taking over the galaxy.

@Aegir721 11 ай бұрын

How did ancient sith even know of Palpatine and Vader? Sith seeing the future was an absolute rarity

@thepaleocat440 Ай бұрын

It’s funny how some of the ancient sith thought Palp was more like a Jedi even though he was more of a Sith than them lol.

@Skillverfish_ 12 күн бұрын

Imagine getting hated on by your ancestors

@arizonacreature1902 Ай бұрын

I feel like the Ancient Sith are basically grandfathers reliving their old days and scolding the youngbloods Vader and Sidious.

@Vincent_A. 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like the Drukhari criticizing the Imperium

@xxmephxx 26 күн бұрын

Revan might've hated palps' guts if they ever met, and probably killed him in 5 minutes tops, but they would've been seething with envy at the successful galaxy takeover

@kazukid8027 10 ай бұрын

This is why ___ HATED (insert video title) is all Star Wars content is now

@AndorRadnai 11 ай бұрын

Chaotic Evil being disgusted by the antics of Lawful Evil… How the turntables!

@dairydregone7146 10 ай бұрын

As the metaphor goes. Same coin but on a different side.

@pablolopez1998 6 ай бұрын

"You can't be evil and smart enought to build an empire at the same time" A true sith

@edgareliseev1773 10 ай бұрын

Didn't even Darth Nihilus's ghost make fun of Palpatine when he tried to go to Korriban?

@tanvirahmedaadeef1034 10 ай бұрын

Momin was a special kid lol

@KenobiandDookuSoloTheSequels 11 ай бұрын

Dooku and Maul would start a new trend in the Sith afterlife by sh*ting on them

@levicarpenter5509 10 ай бұрын

Dooku wasn't even a true sith so no

@KenobiandDookuSoloTheSequels 10 ай бұрын

@@levicarpenter5509 Darth Tyranous? Does it say sth to u

@darling.............. 6 ай бұрын

@KenobiandDookuSoloTheSequels hes still not a real sith,he was just a guy wtho understood who hates corruption of the jedi and republic

@Iamgodsarmy 8 ай бұрын

The balance is always tipping

@willthecook986 11 күн бұрын

I feel like the only sith lord opinion that really mattered on Palpatine and his execution of his plan is Darth Bane since he was the creator of the rule of two and I do believe he would have approved of order 66