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@TheArmchairHistorian
@TheArmchairHistorian 2 жыл бұрын
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@Adan6XI
@Adan6XI 2 жыл бұрын
Could u do a video on the football war
@Lets_Talk_Politics
@Lets_Talk_Politics 2 жыл бұрын
Video on the football war?
@Ywthg5w6gwvyw
@Ywthg5w6gwvyw 2 жыл бұрын
Early
@pandapro6559
@pandapro6559 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do a video about the invasion of Norway
@ZeVulj
@ZeVulj 2 жыл бұрын
Quality is fixed PAGMAN!
@lucianoosorio5942
@lucianoosorio5942 2 жыл бұрын
“He attempted to take British somaliland which went pretty well. He then attempted to take Egypt which went less well. Then he attempted to take Greece which went really badly. Churchill began to describe Italy as Europe’s soft underbelly.”
@lucask4377
@lucask4377 2 жыл бұрын
That's a reference to a oversimplification channel
@angusyang5917
@angusyang5917 2 жыл бұрын
oversimplified moment
@CactiOnFurni
@CactiOnFurni 2 жыл бұрын
dude... VERY COOL
@legolas-xu6ou
@legolas-xu6ou 2 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 2 жыл бұрын
@@legolas-xu6ou apply cold water to burn
@herzog1857
@herzog1857 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting footnote from history. After the conference in Tehran in 1943, it was decided that the Allies would start delivering aid to the Yugoslav partisans and that aid to the Yugoslav monarchists would be stopped. When, after the conference, one of the British members of the delegation told Churchill that he had sold Yugoslavia to the communists, Churchill asked him: "will you live in Yugoslavia after the war?" The delegate replied that he wouldn't, to which Churchill added: "I won't either, so why bother?"
@icysaracen3054
@icysaracen3054 2 жыл бұрын
Churchill was the diet version of Hitler
@mariosvourliotakis778
@mariosvourliotakis778 2 жыл бұрын
another reason why churchill wasnt as nice as people remember him...
@seanmccann8368
@seanmccann8368 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariosvourliotakis778 He was a despicable war mongering racist. He was lucky Hitler and Stalin were on the world stage at the same time as him, otherwise we would be discussing the Churchillian genocides in WW2
@herzog1857
@herzog1857 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariosvourliotakis778 I totally agree. To me he was a cynic who didn't care how many innocent civilians died in occupied countries as long as it served British interests. The best example of this is perhaps the Bengal famine to which he definitely contributed the most from the British side.
@mattmckane9454
@mattmckane9454 2 жыл бұрын
@@herzog1857 He still got through the Second World War though, no matter how brash or harsh he was, he still got a ton of crap done and how I see it, saved Britain.
@mariosvourliotakis778
@mariosvourliotakis778 2 жыл бұрын
Im a Greek and this stuff isnt even taught in school, even though it affected the rest of our history in the 20th century... Thank you very much for your efforts!
@1CE.
@1CE. 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcdonald9295 So is you’re economy 😎
@kayvan671
@kayvan671 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcdonald9295 Ok
@nermainmerl6108
@nermainmerl6108 2 жыл бұрын
We did ww2 and civil war in great detail, much more detail than this video, what kind of school did you go to?
@Stephan1988
@Stephan1988 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcdonald9295 ur not Greek so go away troll
@mariosvourliotakis778
@mariosvourliotakis778 2 жыл бұрын
@@nermainmerl6108 Well, these things are later on in the curriculum, and the teachers, being very far behind didnt have time to cover them, thats why. Greek Public schools arent the greatest...
@angrycabbage1988
@angrycabbage1988 2 жыл бұрын
Griffin's pronunciation of Greek names is just legendary
@dimitrisoikonomou3568
@dimitrisoikonomou3568 2 жыл бұрын
He does a fairly good job...go listen the kings and generals channel butchering Greek names...
@kingofohio5689
@kingofohio5689 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 bri'ish people be like: 🤪🤪🤪🤡🤡
@randombrit4504
@randombrit4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofohio5689 Oi, stop that, or I'll steal the rest of the Parthenon.
@kingofohio5689
@kingofohio5689 2 жыл бұрын
@@randombrit4504 only if you know how to properly pronounce foreign names and words
@theanglo-lithuanian1768
@theanglo-lithuanian1768 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofohio5689 ...Is this an American talking? Ironic. I wonder how many Americans could even point out Greece on a map...
@Alkiviadis_
@Alkiviadis_ 2 жыл бұрын
The Greek civil war is still an incredibly taboo topic in modern Greek society. So much unnecessary death, atrocities and war crimes committed by both sides. Neither left nor right wingers really want to talk about it, but the unmended scar it has left to the Greek people till this day is undeniable. Most Greeks today have or might have had a relative or family friend(s) that will have horror stories to tell because of this war.
@totallyormalpinoyguy1998
@totallyormalpinoyguy1998 2 жыл бұрын
Human nature never changes
@BlueJDMMR2
@BlueJDMMR2 2 жыл бұрын
@@totallyormalpinoyguy1998 War. War never changes.
@Dimitriterrorman
@Dimitriterrorman 2 жыл бұрын
Δεν ήταν εμφυλιος, εάν είσαι κομουνιστής δεν είσαι Έλληνας
@NONO-oy1cu
@NONO-oy1cu 2 жыл бұрын
Nah commies aint no humans.
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 2 жыл бұрын
War changes, just not your kind of change, if it never changed your military would still be shooting flintlocks and firing cannon shells at the attackers.
@leolovetoparty
@leolovetoparty 2 ай бұрын
This is a very western/British narrative of what happened. ELAS (with the help of the British) was the predominant force that defeated the Nazis. They had rounded up the traitors/Nazi sympathisers as part of liberating Greece. However, Churchill, for reasons you cite, plunged the country into civil war when he freed the Nazi sympathisers and put them in charge of the country. 5 bloody years of civil war ensued, resulting in at least as many casualties (most from starvation) as WWII itself. The seeds of the problems that Greece still has to this day, can be traced back to Churchill’s decision.
@veronikalynn5084
@veronikalynn5084 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@nickluby2183
@nickluby2183 2 жыл бұрын
The Truman Doctrine was part of a speech written to garner American support for fighting communist forces in Greece. There was worry that there would be minimal support for fighting in Greece, hence why the speech was so strong, but inevitably it worked a lot better than anyone had expected.
@malliarito6693
@malliarito6693 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the fact that you spelled KKE in Greek. Actually a nice little detail good job once again!
@antoniosdimoulas3566
@antoniosdimoulas3566 Жыл бұрын
Of course they spelled it correctly KKE, the English using the Greek alphabet which the Latin is based also. What is to be excited about it? Many Western languages are based in Greek and using thousands of Greek words in their vocabulary.
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone tried getting a review from Sir Christopher Lee about his service in the war, he had a clever way of dealing with it. Sir Christopher Lee: "Can you keep a secret?" Journalist: "Yes! Yes I can!" Sir Christopher Lee: "And so can I." And then he would politely excuse himself.
@enternamehere4124
@enternamehere4124 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fuckin' power move
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 2 жыл бұрын
@@enternamehere4124 That is Sir Christopher Lee
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use that :D
@djpeel10
@djpeel10 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I'm surprised there was no mention of the Churchill-Stalin agreement which gave Britain 90% influence in Greece after the war
@paulfry3221
@paulfry3221 2 жыл бұрын
Is this not what led up to that event? If I'm incorrect so be it I'm willing to learn.
@bryanemmel6516
@bryanemmel6516 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I wanted to ask the same thing.
@tonydanhs2371
@tonydanhs2371 2 жыл бұрын
The heavy bombardment of piraeus by the allies and the heavy casualties that got downplayed to a mere 300 dead when it was thousands wasnt mentioned either,which is one of the events that caused friction between the greek and allied forces. Fun fact: to this day at piraeus people doing renovations are still digging out american bombs and dead.
@walterwirlo6858
@walterwirlo6858 2 жыл бұрын
The western history books totally ignore the fact that they had made a treaty with Stalin, giving the Soviets total control over what became the Eastern Block nations in exchange for the US controlling the rest of Europe including Greece. They prefer to insinuate that the Russians grabbed all these nations. After repeatedly exalting the Soviet Union as a great nation and a great ally, near the end of the war the US and Britain were already planning a war against Russia. In fact after the war ended, the west started sending numerous sabotage missions into the Soviet Union, called operation nightingale. They also recruited many ex NAZI intelligence officers who were on the Eastern front into US intelligence, fast tracking their immigration to the US, called operation paper clip.
@apmoy70
@apmoy70 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Joe respected the percentages agreement he had signed with Churchill in the Moscow conference in October of 1944. When in February 1948 a committee of Greek communists met with Stalin in order to ask for help for their cause, Uncle Joe replied with the infamous "свернуть!" (svernut'!), i.e. "roll it up! (end it!). It wasn't Stalin who backed the Communists in the Greek Civil War but the Yugoslavs (Tito) and the Albanians (Hoxha). They seeked a secession of Greek Macedonia & Thrace, a merging with the newly created "Macedonian Socialist Republic" in Yugoslavia and the creation of an independent Peoples' Republic of Balkans according to the Yugoslav or Albanian pattern, per the decisions of the 5th national committee of the Communsit Party of Greece. This led to the voting and implementing of Emergency Law 509/1947 by the Greek government that considered those who aspired or enforced the secession of Greek Macedonia & Thrace, as perpetrators of a "High Treason"
@christoschatzidimitriadis7092
@christoschatzidimitriadis7092 Жыл бұрын
I’m Greek and I have to say I’m impressed by the accuracy of the video. Congratulations for your content, keep it that way guys! Thank you Armchair Historian team!
@innosanto
@innosanto 29 күн бұрын
He didnt talk about the Greek army which went to North Africa and was mainly there where it was fighting the axis powers.
@anthonyharalambopoulos4445
@anthonyharalambopoulos4445 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was born in 1944. She was the youngest of five children. The village where she was born was located in communist controlled territory, so the EAM/ELAS forces would regularly interrogate locals in case of any anti-communist activity. Her father decided it was best to stay neutral and simply co-operate with the communists. Then some guy in the village who had some dispute with him framed him for anti-communist activity. The whole family (my grandmother being just a few months old) was transported to a prison camp set up by the EAM/ELAS for anyone accused of opposing them. There, they rounded up all the men and executed them. My great-grandfather was beheaded with an axe and his body was thrown into a well. Soon, the prisoners were liberated and they returned to their homes. My grandmother grew up without a father, something which still deeply affects her to this day. Because of that, she simply dismisses anything remotely left-wing because of all the trauma caused by EAM/ELAS. The Greek Civil War is one of the darkest pages in Greek history, and you can still see how it has divided us.
@im2noob4bronze
@im2noob4bronze 2 жыл бұрын
And a Greek commie will still defend the ΔΣΕ/EAM monsters...
@kingofcards9516
@kingofcards9516 2 жыл бұрын
*the glories of Communism*
@wahaha918
@wahaha918 2 жыл бұрын
and all these commies sympathizers just wanna twist the real facts
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 2 жыл бұрын
Terrible. How many have suffered similarly in areas in government hands... Power makes men inhuman.
@kajamix
@kajamix 2 жыл бұрын
My mother supported the left, but she also saw the communist crimes infront of her eyes. My family were living in Plaka near the historic house of Kostis Palamas the poet. The red cross was bringing them food and all the neighbours were giving some of their own food for Kostis Palamas who was ill (n.b. died in 1943). There was a particularly nice young police officer of the red cross who was helping the people survive the famine and he was very popular. Then after the war my mother went out one day for milk. It was outside the "Cine Paris" - known to all who have visited Athens and Plaka. There a communist patrol managed to make their way down from the rearside of the Akropolis hill and arrested the nice young policeman and executed him on the spot. Many years later I saw that man's name engraved in a marble plaque in Plaka police station.
@finzz4636
@finzz4636 2 жыл бұрын
One small thing that perhaps was worth talking about: You don't mention the Percentages Agreement between Churchill and Stalin. This dictated the amount of geopolitical influence the Soviets and the British had over Greece in the post-war period, which defined Greece as chiefly British in influence. That lead to Greek communist pleas to Moscow falling on deaf ears. That contributed to a divide in the KKE, whether to be Titoist or Stalinist, which was important to understand their aims and how that inhibited the movement Great video as always
@havocgr1976
@havocgr1976 2 жыл бұрын
True, it was Tito and NOT Stalin that aided the communists here due to that agreement.
@MagiconIce
@MagiconIce 2 жыл бұрын
Ah and I was wondering, why Stalin was not mentioned even once in the video, thinking that somehow the USSR must have helped them. That probably also furthered Tensions between Tito and Stalin themselves with Tito going against the orders of Stalin in that case. The Greeks were lucky, that the Soviets didn't decide to intervene in it, if they would've, it maybe could've blown into a full scale civil war, taking Tens if not Hundreds of Thousands of Casualties, when both Cold War Blocs would've thrown their weight in.
@JDDC-tq7qm
@JDDC-tq7qm 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagiconIce That's so true also if the Soviets had got involved Greece would most likely turned Communist as Stalin is more superior than Tito
@bryanemmel6516
@bryanemmel6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagiconIce Or, it might have stopped it in its tracks. Had they wanted to the Soviets could have pushed the Brits back to Egypt.
@user-BasedChad
@user-BasedChad Жыл бұрын
@@havocgr1976 actually no new documents that came to light show that stalin supplied german ww2 weapons to the communist and socialist groups through neighbouring countries so as to not be critisised for supporting the KKE
@vlaf3196
@vlaf3196 2 жыл бұрын
The father of my grandfather was killed on Grammos mountain from communists (he was soldier on army) The father and the mother of my other grandfather got executed from communists (they were shepherds) One brother of my grandmother was fighting for the communists... but the other brother was fighting his brother and he was member of right-wing guerilla group. One brother of my grandfather (that had his parents executed from communists) fought on the side of communists. You can understand the mess. Brothers killing each other. Until today the hate is real. And trust me all these family members didn't have enough education to understand back then for what are they fighting for. They didn't even know how to read. There was no real ideology motives, just manipulation from bigger forces that their side is fighting for the freedom of Greece. Ofc the most educated people knew... or thought they knew for what they fight for but that wasn't the case for most of these poor people.
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ Жыл бұрын
Excellent comment! The vast majority THINKS it understands the ideology, the motives, the details. In actuality, it does not! To be able to "appreciate" Marx you need to read Eugene von Böhm-Bawerk and the whole Austrian school of economics (Mises, Hayek, Rothbard, etc) by doing so you'll realise that Marxism is more poetry and imagination than economics. BTW, my grandfather and his brother found themselves fighting each other in the same battle as members of the tactical army and a communist guerilla group, respectively, even though they were both leftists (I am definitely not).
@MrGEORG1964
@MrGEORG1964 Жыл бұрын
@@C_R_O_M________ a worker to understand the class society, to feel the class exploitation... he has to read Marx ?????? ...awesome historical approach !!!!!! ...the Greek communists were not groups but the majority of the Greek people!! 85% of the Greek people were with the EAM and the Communist Party of Greece ... in 1945 the English and the former collaborators of the Germans had: 450,000 leftist prisoners ... 150,000 exiles and prisons ....16,000 executed (7,000 by military courts and 9,000 murdered by black terrorism) the EAM-ELAS-KKE had 420,000 members of the communist party ... 700,000 members of the EAM ... 150,000 rebels (50,000 permanent rebels and 100,000 reserves) .... at 1958 after the defeat of the Democrat of the army, five years after the executions of Belogiannis-Bloubidis and other fighters (with over 15,000 Greek left-wing political prisoners, brutal fascism with violence and white terrorism throughout the country) ... in the 1958 elections, the left party took 25% of the votes ... but even to this day the majority of the Greek people are with the Left (in one way or another) .....but what are the English feudal lords-murderers to understand from the French Enlightenment????...what...?
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ Жыл бұрын
@@MrGEORG1964 whatever! Three of my relatives were in exile and got tortured (cat in sack and thrown to the sea- type of torture). That would be my grandfather, his brother and an uncle. I know very well how leftist the Greek society is. You might want to read the "Ευτυχώς ηττηθήκαμε σύντροφοι" of Lazarides just in case you retain an open mind. Yes, you need to read, not only Marx but his opposing economists (Marx wasn't exactly an economist, just a journalist with poetic imagination) like the whole Austrian school of economics. Geniuses like Hayek, Mises, Rothbard and the likes. Marx was 100% wrong and I can prove it to you in a short comment.
@lamprakos7
@lamprakos7 Жыл бұрын
Στο Γράμμος που σκοτωθηκε ήταν ταγματασφαλιτης?Ο Ελλάς εκτελούσε προδότες και δοσίλογους.Αυτο θα πω μονο
@MrGEORG1964
@MrGEORG1964 Жыл бұрын
@@C_R_O_M________ do you know the History of our country?..do you know who the Lazarides is ??? Lazaridis is the minor who was tried in the Belogianni trial and while the others were executed, he was saved..after 1960 he followed an anti-communist course (although their own relatives were killed by the fascists (Bulgarians, Germans, Greeks))...you must know that Lazaridis (like the father of the Trotskyist Yotopoulos) for many years was a professor of anti-communism ( ??????) in police-army-naval schools etc....the book you mention is the result of a dirty immoral life of a man who hates himself !!in Greece, several social activists of the 1930s and even of the revolutionary decades of the 1940s and 1950s were bent and several of them ended up as undercover agents, agents in the service of the police and the autocratic state of 1930-1960-1975 .. especially during the period when the chief of the police was the famous Maniadakis ... a very intelligent man who chased the Greek communists to the point of madness - obsessively (even though he later said that he admired them ...) ... Lazaridis became well-known for his articles in right-wing far-right newspapers and for his other books there are much worse than him in the Greek Left...
@user-oz1yv4nt9q
@user-oz1yv4nt9q 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how come we were never taught about the civil war at schools. I think it's because it sheds a bad light on us, because of the monstrosities committed (besides many people from the far right who committed terrible crimes against communists were forgiven and even awarded positions afterwards, so the curriculum always wanted to push that historical fact under the rug). It also ruins the narrative of the united greeks pushing back the axis during ww2. Fun fact, Greece doesn't celebrate the end of the war, but the begining of it, exactly because we were on each other's throats the minute the Nazis were out. Thank you, armchair historian, for teaching me more about the Greek civil war, than the crappy greek educational system ever did.
@rgdevoner2344
@rgdevoner2344 2 жыл бұрын
About the fun fact, no we dont celebrate the start of war (more like resistance) because wE LoVe wAr but because we felt free to answer to a super power(Italians and after Germans) no because WE DIDNT SURRENDER because THIS place is for Greeks and only we are Feeling free inside enough to tell to the face of a super power "no".Its about the resistance we and the feeling "of saying to their faces no" and not because we love war.I will make it simplier,we are celebrating OUR BALLS we showed for defending our homeland no matter the super power we face and not tHE beGgiNinG oF tHe wAr.
@jonathansibrian695
@jonathansibrian695 2 жыл бұрын
Cassually miss all the civilians kidnaped and the executios of the commies You know why the right wing happen its becouse the left exist
@user-oz1yv4nt9q
@user-oz1yv4nt9q 2 жыл бұрын
@@rgdevoner2344 i never said we celebrate the beginning of the war because "we love war". What I'd been taught is the same thing you say, that we celebrate the people's bravery and the unity with which they answered the call to arms. My point is, that whole narrative (although the fighters' bravery is admirable) is pretty much just an effort to save face. We would be celebrating the end of the war just like any other nation, if it weren't for our passion of fighting each other every chance we get. So we made up a nice little story about us being united in the face of tyranny, and thus we celebrate the beginning of the war. There's no reason to sugarcoat history, we're not perfect.
@user-jf6yv8rj2s
@user-jf6yv8rj2s 2 жыл бұрын
There are many books you can find about National Resistance if you are interested. I didn't like the education system either but KZfaq channels can not teach better from a book.
@ryanfarrelly4647
@ryanfarrelly4647 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jf6yv8rj2s a video reading the book?
@darrenmurray861
@darrenmurray861 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather told me of his pass through the mountains of Greece upon his return from the North Africa campaign via Cyprus. He mentioned ELAS, though did not speak much of what actually happened there. In my experience with him, this means that whatever did go down was not good.
@innosanto
@innosanto 29 күн бұрын
Exactly Greek army moven and fought in Northern africa. Greek civil war was very bad deadlier than the world war 2.
@Vak_g
@Vak_g 2 жыл бұрын
Being Greek I have to say that this documentary was excellent! This topic is still very controversial in Greece and eventhough many documentaries have been created it is still difficult to find a historically accurate description of the events. Nonetheless, your video was brilliant! Explaining histroical facts and events in an objective way and helping understant the essence of the conflict! Thank you very much! PS. I loved the accurate greek flags and newspappers covers in the video!
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler 5 ай бұрын
His video wasn't bad but not "excellent' as you claim. He left out a huge detaill.. the fake "Macedonians". Back then the US and UK used to claim no such ethnic group exists. Today they pretend those events didn't happen and engage in ethnic engineering like the Comintern. This video is just one more example of this evasion.
@GeoLumen
@GeoLumen Жыл бұрын
Takis Lazaridis was an EAM ELAS partizan and member of the KKE party. He was one of the eight people sentenced to die along with Beloyiannis in 1951 but was eventually spared because he was young of age. Lazaridis wrote a very informative book on the events of the Greek Civil War called "Ευτυχώς ηττηθήκαμε σύντροφοι" (Fortunately, we were defeated comrades) which also explains why the Soviet-dependent communist party was defeated (and why this was a good thing)
@outerspace7391
@outerspace7391 Жыл бұрын
Great book, have read many quotes from it
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 3 ай бұрын
Where can I find this book?
@kolokotronis84
@kolokotronis84 3 ай бұрын
takis lazaridis taked money from deep state...
@alteredcreedgaming4700
@alteredcreedgaming4700 2 жыл бұрын
A great and informational video as always!
@Blackholelord
@Blackholelord 2 жыл бұрын
I have a video idea for you. During the Great War, WWI, the Allies had occupied Greece. At the time, Greece was split with whom they side with. The royal family leaned towards the Central Powers. While the civilian government leaned towards the Allies of WWI. Greece was neutral in the war at this state, but yet France and British forces landed troops in neutral Greece and would go onto make heavy demands on the Greeks and blockade all shipping into Greece. Give up all their war material to the Allies, allow the Allies to control their national newspapers push their ideals upon Greek civilians. The royal family didn't want to join the war for another reason, they were surrounded by three Central Powers. The video idea is this. Why did this happen and the aftermath results of these actions of the Allies forcing a neutral nation to fight in a war they didn't want. For the Great War, this is the biggest confusion as to why this happened and the relationship between the allies and Greece after the Great War.
@Blackholelord
@Blackholelord 2 жыл бұрын
@Rogue S300 Fire Control Radar Signature in Aegean I am asking about World War One, better known if somewhat forgotten, the Great War. The confusion related to how the Allies of the era acted towards Greece a neural nation and the aftermath.y
@antoniosdimoulas3566
@antoniosdimoulas3566 Жыл бұрын
The Greeks enthusiastically eventually involved themselves in the World War II, because they wanted to stop the Italian invasion. Did you forgot that?
@Blackholelord
@Blackholelord Жыл бұрын
@@antoniosdimoulas3566 I had watched the whole Great War from week to week, and I saw the issue Greece was having. Enemies on all sides if one choice or another was picked. And the Allies had pushed the issue, like forced it fight on our side or starve by our blockade. I want to know the aftermath about this.
@ioannisantoniadis6719
@ioannisantoniadis6719 19 күн бұрын
​​@@antoniosdimoulas3566 They didn't get involved because they wanted to. They had to defend their country from the enemy invasion.
@goofy7406
@goofy7406 2 жыл бұрын
I would like for Griffin to maybe dive into the Cold War in Latin America, like Nicaragua with the Sandinistas or Colombia with its Cartels and Socialist organizations, Maybe even the Shining Path organization from Peru (Great video btw)
@adrianshephard378
@adrianshephard378 2 жыл бұрын
FARC is a cartel
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 Жыл бұрын
I support this fully
@Aggelos-br7ow
@Aggelos-br7ow 3 ай бұрын
Thats a very sad story...
@UnknownSoulGuy
@UnknownSoulGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes finally. Never expected you'd do this video. I'm honored.
@mozzarella_boyy7779
@mozzarella_boyy7779 2 жыл бұрын
As a greek I am more than glad you made this video!
@ALaughingWolf2188
@ALaughingWolf2188 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Brusilov Offensive during WW1? It was a very important offensive during the war that’s largely uncovered on KZfaq, and I think it would make for a very interesting video especially with your narration and style
@carlplz00001
@carlplz00001 2 жыл бұрын
No
@wurzel9671
@wurzel9671 2 жыл бұрын
It's been covered extensively
@Spido68_the_spectator
@Spido68_the_spectator Жыл бұрын
Simple history covered it
@stefantopuzov6140
@stefantopuzov6140 2 жыл бұрын
As a Bulgarian I find Greek history fascinating because you are so close yet so far away. But honestly, for all the bllodshed, you should be spending every living moment being thankful you did not end in the Soviet sphere...
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, staying in the "free" world brought no real benefit, neither economical nor political, to the average Greek, at least up to the the end of the Seventies. And, always frankly, even today there's little to rejoice for Greece.
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 2 жыл бұрын
But what of its support in the Russo-Ukrainian war, surely there is something to rally behind?
@Andrew-rd9zq
@Andrew-rd9zq Жыл бұрын
@@stefanodadamo6809 tbh the Greeks had a good time abusing their economy till it imploded on them.
@Alex_Pan69
@Alex_Pan69 Жыл бұрын
This is true but only 50%...the other 50% lies on the fact that Greece became a protectorate of the USA and never really had the chance to get over the WW2 in financial and political terms. It is now a common secret among greek citizens that behind every party winning the elections, the american support was more than enough to ensure the results were for the american interests-even when "socialist" PASOK took the power, the Americans never lost anything of what thay had previously achieved on greek land and waters. Yes, we avoided the Soviet sphere with all its drawbacks but being under the american sphere didn't exactly bring democracy and prosperity...
@Nancy20012
@Nancy20012 Жыл бұрын
@stefan I am as a Greek I can assure you
@HermanosLuDi
@HermanosLuDi 2 жыл бұрын
Italy tried to be like Germany in doing continuous conquests in balkans and north Africa, something that it failed.
@redwind5150
@redwind5150 2 жыл бұрын
Italy is the reason Germany fell,
@redwind5150
@redwind5150 2 жыл бұрын
@pablothesus Do you not understand Italy's incompetence?
@pellejohansen
@pellejohansen 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwind5150 the nazis in germany lost because they declared war on the US and attacked the soviet union at the same time. Instead of just fighting the british. Had they ignored the soviets and the US they could have defeated the british
@redwind5150
@redwind5150 2 жыл бұрын
@@pellejohansen The Africa campaign because of Italy played a major role in the fall. Had Germany not bothered with Africa, it most likely would have held out longer.
@natebox4550
@natebox4550 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwind5150 the Germans were bound to failure due to their incompetent leadership by Hitler. And it wasn’t even only Hitlers fault, his so “amazing generals” fucked up multiple times, sometimes against hitlers wishes. They would of ran out of oil eventually. And their leadership was retarted. They were doomed to failure.
@sulaymanbah123
@sulaymanbah123 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always superpowers that decided another country fate thanks for uploading awesome video
@Munchkino
@Munchkino 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer this fate over my country becoming another former Soviet-Bloc authoritarian shithole.
@Munchkino
@Munchkino 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer this fate over my country becoming another former Soviet-Bloc authoritarian shithole.
@sulaymanbah123
@sulaymanbah123 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggymusicman I already know how much power and influence a superpower have what I am saying is that it is not right to force another nation to follow your rules or policies a superpower= a bully
@mcmilk107
@mcmilk107 2 жыл бұрын
@@sulaymanbah123 Competition and domination is a major part of life always has been
@sulaymanbah123
@sulaymanbah123 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcmilk107 true but domination and competition between nations will end up just hurting the common people of those nations but not the rich
@thezeroalchemist277
@thezeroalchemist277 Жыл бұрын
You really undersold the white terror and the level to which old collaborators were used by the British and monarchists to fight the communists. However, excellent production quality as usual.
@alexchainger
@alexchainger 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable quolity! Amazing video and aqurate as well! As a Greek Im honored you did such a good job as a topic this creaminaly uncovered
@fpz3491
@fpz3491 2 жыл бұрын
It is very well made. I will give you that
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew before that Sir Christopher Lee played a role in Greek history. I learned something new.
@user-xq4st9ie7r
@user-xq4st9ie7r Жыл бұрын
We don't know if he did. The organisation he was associated with at that time was active in Greece.
@giannisfragos722
@giannisfragos722 2 жыл бұрын
Great video can you make a video about the Greek junta it's an interesting and dark part of Greek history
@jcsv12345
@jcsv12345 Жыл бұрын
He should discuss the metapolitefsi
@NIKOS_GEROSIDERIS
@NIKOS_GEROSIDERIS Жыл бұрын
If you call Junta a dark part of Greek history than what you call 2010-2022?Just being curious...
@VergilDarkslayer
@VergilDarkslayer Жыл бұрын
​@@jcsv12345 so like today?
@crakker347
@crakker347 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video I would be interested to see how the Junta in Greece worked since nobody has really spoken about it. Keep up the great job armchair historian!
@C_R_O_M________
@C_R_O_M________ Жыл бұрын
The Greek Junta of the colonels, was, essentially a CIA operation to prevent a communist takeover. It did a great disservice long term as it glorified communism in the eyes of the public. If a communist takeover had taken place at that time, it would have busted the myth of "humanitarian communism" that stills plagues the Greek political ecosystem, one of ideological ignorance.
@harukaru84
@harukaru84 Жыл бұрын
it was a coup, helped by the US. they took control, there was martial law and no freedom, they claimed to build infrastructure, which all what the actual democratic government before them was building. they put in prison everyone who opposed them, who ever was thought as communist, and prison was not even the start, they tortured and eventually killed the majority of them. there was censorship everywhere, and they effed up the economy for the generations to come, by giving loans without return to everyone to gain support of the people, creating an enormous dept we still pay to this day. then they interfered with Cyprus affairs and we lost half of the island to turkish invasion, that cost the lives of many. all in all a dark period for 7 years with a huge death toll, and changed the mentality of people.
@Han_Solo_Captain
@Han_Solo_Captain 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great video !!!! Love from Greece 🇬🇷
@sarantissporidis391
@sarantissporidis391 11 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a royalist. He fought as an evzonos at the Albanian frontier, kicking Italian butt, but almost losing both of his legs by frostbites in the process. After the German invasion and the surrender of Greece, he returned to his family, living peacefully at his island. One day, a boat full of members of the Security regiments, the Nazi collaborators came, drafting right wing men to fight against the partizans of EAM ELAS. My grandfather although being a royalist, refused saying "I am not going to fight against Greeks". He, along with other right wing people who had also denied drafting, was captured, and taken by boat to Piraeus to be executed. Luckily, he managed to escape and returned home. There are lots of things that I am proud of my grandfather, but l think this is what makes me proud the most.
@SI-qp7cm
@SI-qp7cm 3 ай бұрын
As a Greek I stopped at your opening. Britain didn’t intervene in the civil war, they created it to shore up the monarchy . Yes they wanted to install a British monarch .
@arcadeslum5882
@arcadeslum5882 3 ай бұрын
the monarchs of greece were always foreign and never british but you are close...
@SI-qp7cm
@SI-qp7cm 3 ай бұрын
@@arcadeslum5882 never British ? Well if you want to play semantics all of the British monarch were never a British . Prince Phillip was from the same line . But it is a British monarch my friend. Next you will tell me that Charles is part Greek through his father . I love the snarkiness of the reply too, you must not be European. American ? If you want to reply and have a serious discussion do so , if you want snark and high school debating don’t bother . If you want to get down to it , there is no such thing as British, a mix race of essentially Germans . Angles are Germanic , Saxons were Germanic , Danes ultimately are an ofshoot of a Germanic tribes in the north. French are Germanic via Gaul and Spain are a mixture of Arab/North Africa and Germanic via Visigoth . Britain is a Petrie dish , USA is mainly German as well. So basically the most despicable people in the world , responsible for all the atrocities trace their lineage to a few barbarian hordes .
@sunnyperka5791
@sunnyperka5791 17 күн бұрын
In fact they wanted to get rid of Stalin's attempt to establish a communist government in Greece.
@johnoughton7294
@johnoughton7294 16 күн бұрын
My Father who had been involved in the Second World War joined up when he was only 17 years , his mother , my Grandmother went to the army and demanded he be sent home ,, my Father refused and stayed,, he was put on the guns defending Hull from the Nazi planes , he eventually went on to fight in North Africa, Italy and then sent to Greece . I asked him many years later that I had read his army record and what hat happened in Greece !!! I told my Father that he had lost his stripes for being drunk on duty !! He replied , Son , we didn’t know why we were sent there , the war was over , he was told it was to keep the peace between the so called communists and the royals !! He , along his mates were billeted with Greek family’s in and around Athens , I think he said in the small villages . He said , Son , the Greek family’s took us in and treated us like we were their Sons . One night their village was surrounded by Greeks who didn’t want the royals to be allowed back in Greece , the leader of the soldier’s surrounding them said ,, surrender your arms or we will kill everyone in the village , apparently, there was 3 Officers in charge of them, I have no idea 15:15 what was said but my Father and is fellow soldiers refused to fight and said to the Officers, the War is over , we have no right to fight the Greeks , they are just like us , the Greeks had fought bravely against their common enemies, the Nazis. They laid down their arms , and were took prisoner and led away . He and his Comrades eventually were rescued SIX months later in the Mountains of Northen Greece by the Greek Army , and who had killed and beheaded the Leader of the Greek soldier’s which was taken back to Athens . The Three British Officers and , “I don’t remember how many “ were all charged with Mutiny , the 3 Officers were reduced to the ranks and my Father was charged with being drunk on duty!!! I asked him if this was true , he said , Son , I refused to kill or injure a fellow man who believed in his Country, we had no right to be there , and I was treated like a Son by the Villagers. I don’t care . I personally met a Greek gentleman and after a long chat about the trouble in Greece ate the end of the War he asked me why I was asking him about the terrible times in Greece , he explained to me about the problems it all caused, brother against brother, Fathers against Son . So is asked this gentleman could I tell him about My Father and his Love for the Greeks . He was very surprised to hear the story and then he asked me , could I repeat this conversation with his Fsther who was by then a very old man and that his Father had written a book about those terrible times . I said off course . He replied , this story would help him to rethink his thoughts about the British Army in Greece . I hope this small story helps the cause of forgiveness through the pain caused by the terrible times that the Greek People went through. I remember the wonderful saying my Father said to me . Son , only Hero’s fight like the Greeks . RIP Dad ..
@SI-qp7cm
@SI-qp7cm 16 күн бұрын
@@johnoughton7294 thank you so much for your contribution, we must keep the word of mouth alive.
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 2 жыл бұрын
I too enjoy watching Greek history in 144p just as God intended
@guyguy6384
@guyguy6384 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro
@mr.hedado741
@mr.hedado741 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the video doesn’t even need good video quality means that the videos them selves are quality and great no matter what
@capncake8837
@capncake8837 2 жыл бұрын
144 for the true Balkan experience.
@crimsonterror5795
@crimsonterror5795 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather be ruled by a Constitutional monarch then a Communist dictator.
@kerkireos
@kerkireos 2 жыл бұрын
Α ρε Ελλαδα..Οταν οι αλλοι εφτιαχναν τις ζωες τους εμεις ειχαμε εμφυλιο...
@jayjayson9613
@jayjayson9613 2 жыл бұрын
We had to drive out the Commies someway after all phile.
@UnknownSoulGuy
@UnknownSoulGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Πάντα έτσι ήμασταν πατριώτη... πάντα έτσι ήμασταν.
@dimitrisoikonomou3568
@dimitrisoikonomou3568 2 жыл бұрын
Πάντα αυτό δε κάναμε...?
@englandtownwalks891
@englandtownwalks891 2 жыл бұрын
Εδω στην επανασταση μολις απελευθερωσαμε την πελλοπονησο καναμε εμφυλιο 😅😅.
@kerkireos
@kerkireos 2 жыл бұрын
@@englandtownwalks891 Αρχοντες
@lucianoosorio5942
@lucianoosorio5942 2 жыл бұрын
“I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening national parks! Yes!” Winston Churchill
@paulian1888
@paulian1888 2 жыл бұрын
nice quote from an egotistical maniac/failed admiral
@titanlord9267
@titanlord9267 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm the rhyme minister, fresh in hat and dinner jacket"
@lucianoosorio5942
@lucianoosorio5942 2 жыл бұрын
@@titanlord9267 “I’m an American stud, and you’re the British Elmer Fudd.” Theodore Roosevelt
@elmerfudd856
@elmerfudd856 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucianoosorio5942 smh
@Smart-Sports
@Smart-Sports 2 жыл бұрын
@@titanlord9267 "Your whole miserable country is the size of one state" Theodore Roosevelt
@Darth.Vermilius
@Darth.Vermilius Жыл бұрын
Not ''alleged'' collaborators ; Greece is the only place in Europe where too many collaborators not only escaped justice but they also came back to several positions of authority soon after the Civil War. Britain used them against Socialist EAM (which was NOT communist but a broad coalition of progressive parties, including KKE) because ''the enemy of my enemy is my friend''. EAM [and later KKE] committed several atrocities but executing nazis is not one of them ,because they were not crazy as many historians would like to believe.
@neandros7
@neandros7 Жыл бұрын
EAM founded by KKE...
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
True but the coalition that founded EAM was led by the KKE
@ioannispapaletsos2784
@ioannispapaletsos2784 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work and very close to being objective. Keep digging in Greek history. It' s very well documented and full of moral precept. The music score was amazing and the whole clip was very atmospheric. Congratz!!!
@Farmer_El
@Farmer_El Жыл бұрын
If you had been my history teacher in high school, and if you had done presentations just like this, I would have been a much better student.
@vasiliskirlis3041
@vasiliskirlis3041 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video,people here in Greece do not learn history correctly or deny its very existence. Ty Armchair I am a fan from the very beggining of your YTC,hope for more about our country in your next videos 100% accurate and up to the point!
@user-xw8sp7cx5r
@user-xw8sp7cx5r Жыл бұрын
Τι να σου μάθουν, κυρίως ο εμφύλιος αν σου μάθουν τα πραγματικά γεγονότα θα σου δημιουργήσει τις χειρότερες εντυπώσεις για τα δεξιά κόμματα
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 2 ай бұрын
How do you know they are accurate?
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason why Britain intervened is because they like rocks, and we all know how much the British love their rock collection.
@sfooter1692
@sfooter1692 2 жыл бұрын
Yep rock collection like India, Australia and Canada
@davidfarrer4332
@davidfarrer4332 2 жыл бұрын
@@sfooter1692 they’re the larger rocks in the British collection!
@bryanemmel6516
@bryanemmel6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggymusicman I think he's talking about the marbles stolen from the Parthenon that the Brits have and refuse to return.
@cpj93070
@cpj93070 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanemmel6516 And we ain't giving them back either. 😂😂😂
@RizzabethII
@RizzabethII Жыл бұрын
@@bryanemmel6516finders keepers, losers weepers
@peteraune3693
@peteraune3693 2 жыл бұрын
You do not mention Churhill´s agreement with Stalin as to the division of spheres of influence after the war.
@MrThessalonikiman1
@MrThessalonikiman1 2 жыл бұрын
Just an extension.Tito wouldn't equip his fellow communist Greeks with weapons for no reason.His ultimate goal (as goal of the USSR headquarters) was the creation of a country in the North of Greece covering the geographical territories of Greece Epirus Macedonia and Thrace( at that time the made up story about Macedonia was made). Ultimately they wanted not only turn Greece into a Communist country; they wanted to be in small states.
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 жыл бұрын
No dude that's stupid. Stalin wanted no change in the borders. Only tito did. Stalin wanted a Balkan federation, so he wanted to turn Greece into something like a federal republic by creating a state within a state, but after Tito stopped liking him he gave up on that plan as well
@MrThessalonikiman1
@MrThessalonikiman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnas1897Its not just a statement.There are records stating this fact by letters exchanged by Zachariadis and the USSR headquarters. Recently an academic (in Harvard I recall) presented these (USSR) records and the KKE party answered they are false (I guess they cannot accept responsibility).The actual point is there is no free lunch; they did not want just a communist Greek state,they wanted Greek Communist states with citizens of different origin Slavs Greeks etc.
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
​​@@MrThessalonikiman1 Zachariadis only declared the goal of an independent Macedonia in 1949 to attract more slavs to his army (because he knew that they were going to lose). Up until then, NOF fought for the freedom of Slavic Macedonians within the nation of Greece. The Comintern's resolution on Macedonia was supposed to create an independent Macedonia within a Balkan federation, not just randomly. Plus the Macedonia of the Balkan federation would also include Vardar Macedonia and Pirin. The reason for that is that the Comintern believed that this was the right move is because otherwise Macedonia would continue to be a warzone between Bulgarians, Greeks and Serbs, whereas unification would allow all tribes to live peacefully and equally on the territory of Macedonia. Now, the creation of a Macedonian nation was supposed to be a way to: 1.bring revolution to the Balkans 2. Give a solid national identity to population that didn't have one 3. Put the regional identity of the Macedonian peoples above the national one (to ensure unity in the future sovereign Macedonia) 4. To destroy "chauvinistic" and "imperialistic" ambitions by Bulgarians, Greeks and Serbs.
@gourtzel
@gourtzel 2 жыл бұрын
It is truly remarkable how much thorough was your research on this matter. As a Greek myself I have to admit it. This was phenomenal. Even the headlines and the titles of the newspapers are up to the point. My best guess is that maybe a Greek guy helped you with this content. Anyhow, congrats!
@nenaddimitrievski2625
@nenaddimitrievski2625 Жыл бұрын
The British also used napalm bombing wiping out whole villages, contributing for the war atrocities in which the ethnic Macedonians were specifically targeted.
@stefanosalevras1611
@stefanosalevras1611 3 ай бұрын
Yes, British also killed babies and ate them.
@nicka.papanikolaou9475
@nicka.papanikolaou9475 3 күн бұрын
There were/re no ethnic Macedonians. Check documents of that tome and you will never fnd "ethnic macedonians. The only Macedonians were/are Greeks. You were "macedonians" Tito who sought to undercut Bulgaria. You are bulgarians with a stolen name and history.
@vasileiosomegas5414
@vasileiosomegas5414 Жыл бұрын
This civil war that started as soon as WW2 ended is the reason we don't celebrate the liberation of Greece, but the day we entered the war (28/10/1940). It was a dark period with atrocities from both sides. Greece lost more men in the civil war than WW2... The allies (mostly USA) used Greek civil war as a test lab for new weapons (throwing napalm to the communists hiding in mountains etc) that were later used in other wars like Korea, and the communists looted villages to find supplies and kidnapped litle kids in order to create more foot soldiers because they were outnumbered. A personal story that shows the animosity between the 2 sides is this: My late great grandfather was a hero of WW2 who almost lost his feet to frostbite and when the civil war started he was called to fight again. His fellow comrades from his hometown, who fought side to side with him against the Nazis but joined the communists, knowing that he is a soldier of the national army, went to his house and interogated my 6 year old grandma in order to find his whereabouts and set a trap to execute him. Luckily he was on the front at that time so he escaped almost certain death... Thank you for the video, although it is a dark period as I said before, we must know about it so we can never ever end up killing each other again. The same applies of course to any war.
@Evagelopoulos862
@Evagelopoulos862 Жыл бұрын
Britain didn't attack the Greeks . Britain ,with the permission of the Greek government , helped the Greek army, to stop the expansionism of Communism.
@cvetomirgeorgiev9106
@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 2 жыл бұрын
The video is available EXCLUSIVELY in 144p and 1440p. No in-between
@sarthakmaan7075
@sarthakmaan7075 2 жыл бұрын
I am seeing in 720p🤔
@seneca983
@seneca983 2 жыл бұрын
I see all the options. Maybe some of them hadn't been generated when you watched this.
@pedrocarmo1996
@pedrocarmo1996 3 ай бұрын
360p. Automatic.
@panoskoutelas9542
@panoskoutelas9542 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I can only assume why so little we, the Greek people, know about the civil war.
@Berethoris
@Berethoris Жыл бұрын
why we, the Greek people, know so little about the civil war
@philzakhariadis
@philzakhariadis 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's so empowering to see someone finally talk about such an important part of modern Greek history - especially a part involving my great grandfather, Nikos Zachariadis :)) Thank you
@hst615
@hst615 2 жыл бұрын
One of the great Anti-Fascist of Europe. Kudos.
@jackboehm8408
@jackboehm8408 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, your grandfather was a murderer? Dang.
@philzakhariadis
@philzakhariadis 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackboehm8408 My great grandfather, so my grandfather's father, was a political leader who is considered very, very controversial in Greece until this very day. He is not what one would call a murderer, but the Party's common decisions during the Civil War (who also were to a great extent following what Moscow told them) did lead to many deaths on both sides. He himself by the way wrote an open letter to the Greek people in 1940 while imprisoned on Corfu, asking them to fight got Greece's independence against the Italian powers that were coming for them, a fact that contributed to the utter humiliation of Mussolini in Europe's eyes. It is eye opening when one realizes that the letter was published in the national newspaper by then dictator Ioannis Metaxas, who was of the far-right but had declared that he would not let the Italian troops pass through Greece and thusly decided to help his political rival.
@georgezestanakis6788
@georgezestanakis6788 2 жыл бұрын
I am the creative director of the channel, i have to say that i am happy to see you in the comments sharing your great grandfathers story. We worked hard to keep our approach as neutral as possible. I believe we succeeded (taking into account that the channel’s origin is western)
@user-no4su7je2n
@user-no4su7je2n 2 жыл бұрын
@@hst615 Antifa is cringe
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 жыл бұрын
Greece won both WW2 and the civil war and became a free democracy, also gained the Dodecanese, but lost Northern Epirus in the end 🥲
@CrusaderKnight
@CrusaderKnight 2 жыл бұрын
144p Squad :)
@maharaicradle4164
@maharaicradle4164 2 жыл бұрын
sup :]
@TsarRaTheV
@TsarRaTheV 2 жыл бұрын
I’m here
@generalawing
@generalawing 2 жыл бұрын
Here.
@petko-0582
@petko-0582 2 жыл бұрын
Hi bro
@HertCervus
@HertCervus 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there
@erti4531
@erti4531 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about Albanian-British corfu channel incident 1946?
@petr79
@petr79 Жыл бұрын
Brits also used the Acropol as a defence cover and British soldiers resided in the museum there. They did not allow the Greek museum staff to enter. They endangered the artifacts too, touching and climbing on them taking pics, while using the place as a public toilet and they called prostitutes too. So much for respecting Ancient Greek civilisation from the Crusader successors.
@user-sx7mh9td2g
@user-sx7mh9td2g 2 жыл бұрын
Very good content, would love to see one on the Greek Revolution too. Eleftheria i thanatos!
@ppg4667
@ppg4667 11 ай бұрын
Freedom or death. Commie malakas can suck it
@eeLretsiM
@eeLretsiM Жыл бұрын
Great video and a great oft-overlooked story. Also, that tank firing over his rear deck at 12:05 must be having a bad day. Armor forces are more susceptible to outflanking in urban combat.
@f0nt
@f0nt 2 жыл бұрын
Recommend doing a video about soviet occupation of the baltic states during and after ww2. It is a very complicated yet not very well known to the westeners.
@Satcong71
@Satcong71 Ай бұрын
I grew up in Greece during the 60s & 70s dad was USAF at Hellenikon. He had a few CIA friends. The American club was the former HQ for the Nazis and had swastikas etched into the marble floors. That was the golden age of Greece in terms of light tourism and plenty of fantastic childhood events with so many incredible places to go and see. As a Greek American, I really think Greece was a better place to live (was) compared to what Greece has become.
@user-nn3pz1ef2n
@user-nn3pz1ef2n 2 жыл бұрын
Gongratulation. It was really good portrayal of the situation in Greece at the time, given that the video was 19min long. In comparison to other history channels your portrayal was the best. And the music background that you chose was quite good also. Cheers!
@Rheinmetall1
@Rheinmetall1 Жыл бұрын
Click bait aside, a very good video.
@Munchkino
@Munchkino 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this part of history. The art and research into the subject was great as always.
@user-ij7sp6op6q
@user-ij7sp6op6q 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather Dimitrios was a member of EAM-ELAS during the Tripple Axis Occupation of Greece as there were thousands of Greeks at EAM-ELAS. However,in 1944 the KKE desided to take power via violoence and war again the Monarch-Fascist Goverment as the Communists called the other political parties and the other resistance groups. My grandfather then decided to abandon the EAM-ELAS because he didn't want to kill Greeks,which was not the purpose from the start. He was proclaimed to be a Traitor from KKE even though he was one of their greatest fighters. He remained a communist until his death even though he was against the practises of EAM-ELAS under the commands of KKE.
@neandros7
@neandros7 Жыл бұрын
yes the government was not only fascist but guys who never fought for their country and just came from cairo. KKE had to defend the freedom that people got with blood
@constantinepanagiotatos975
@constantinepanagiotatos975 2 ай бұрын
@@neandros7They fought and killed for control and power, not freedom. Amazing you still believe this propaganda. You’d be a vassal state of the USSR had those clowns won. Today all they have is a stage in front of syntagma and brainwashed slobs to still make comments like this.
@creppe6086
@creppe6086 2 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about the triple alliance war/paraguay war?, seen that this war e very rarely spoken here at south america an even at my country (Brazil) and i would appreciate see a such good content creator like you that teach me more history than all the 5 schools i studied in my life made a video explaining more about this almost forgotten war ps: sorry for any english grammar error or miss pronunciation you might see at this comment
@theotank2439
@theotank2439 2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea. I have wanted to learn more about that war, especially because of how unusually brutal it ended up being to Paraguay.
@creppe6086
@creppe6086 2 жыл бұрын
@@theotank2439 yes it was a slauther for both sides mainly paraguay and brazil that suffered alot economicaly ,politicaly and millitary with this war, also o risk my self say that this was mas more brutal than the american civil war it self seen that the battles were mostly in close quarters due the terrible swampy terrain the armies fight making each battle a little antietam with bayonet charges close range skirmishes and everything else you can imagine
@RC15O5
@RC15O5 2 жыл бұрын
Only missed two words ("appreciate" and "comment"), great job!
@angusyang5917
@angusyang5917 Жыл бұрын
wish granted
@mariatserpe8730
@mariatserpe8730 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, the Greek civil war is something we are not taught at school in any detail other than scarce mentions so I learned a lot about my county's history from this. I'd love to watch a video on the chounta you mentioned happened afterwards, it's a super interesting conflict that I believe is worth a video. It will be really informative to listen to that piece of history from your perspective as you seem to value above all objectivity and truth. It's sad to admit this but the way we are being taught Greek history in our schools definitely keeps us in the dark when it comes to the less appealing parts of our modern history.
@im2noob4bronze
@im2noob4bronze 2 жыл бұрын
Read also the David Brewer's book "Ελλάδα 1939-1949" to find an objective side in the history. It goes into too much detail sometimes but in general is extremely informative
@mariatserpe8730
@mariatserpe8730 2 жыл бұрын
@@im2noob4bronze Thank you, I'll check it out for sure
@walnzell9328
@walnzell9328 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if elements of the British and American governments considered installing the young exiled Prince Philip of Denmark and Greece as a puppet king if the communists gained the upper hand and Geórgios II was not amiable to their influence.
@kajamix
@kajamix 2 жыл бұрын
Phil's mother thought about for a time, but that was in the 30s. During the war Phil was already a commissioned Royal navy officer and in love with princess Elizabeth.
@bawicz0
@bawicz0 2 жыл бұрын
Another good day when Armchair historian uploads
@user-xl2it6wg1l
@user-xl2it6wg1l 3 ай бұрын
You know, guys, when one side of a civil war requires military intervention from a stronger empire to defeat its opponents, I would seriously think about whether that side truly represents its people.
@BelgianProblem
@BelgianProblem 3 ай бұрын
I mean, the communists also had foreign support.
@woodlandcreature8857
@woodlandcreature8857 2 жыл бұрын
EAMs idea of "collaborators" was anyone who criticised their movement. If socialists/communists would learn to work with others they'd be more successful
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime they did, the communist got stabbed in the back
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
But there were many non-communists in EAM 😂 Collaborators were sometimes simply suspected collaborators, because desperate times require desperate measures.
@quintorezwalker5210
@quintorezwalker5210 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Sir Christopher Lee was a SOE agent? But he was an actor who played Dracula.
@thegreekguy1124
@thegreekguy1124 Жыл бұрын
Greeks a nation with 3 civil wars,3 country splits,5 juntas and 3 liberation wars(successful) in 150 years
@user-it6jy6xr6s
@user-it6jy6xr6s 21 күн бұрын
In my living room I have a vase. It is an empty mortar shell. A British empty mortar shell. My grandma took it out of the smithereens of her landlady's house during the battles of December 1944. Her husband, my grandfather, run away from his execution by the EAM forces literally the last minute. History is not only taught at schools. We can always ask the people who lived it. Thanks for an objective snapshot of Greece's modern history.
@CalTest72
@CalTest72 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who's grandmother worked for Churchill.
@user-eh4gu3bq8k
@user-eh4gu3bq8k 2 жыл бұрын
love the videos been watching for years now
@joehill4094
@joehill4094 2 жыл бұрын
The fact your thumbnail was buddy christ is amazing
@BrendenParker
@BrendenParker Жыл бұрын
The British helped the Greeks from becoming Communist, which would have been bad for the Greek soul.
@jayjayson9613
@jayjayson9613 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for covering this. As a Greek, I appreciate it.
@Mr-Chris
@Mr-Chris 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a video of the Battle of San Juan 1797.
@demetrisdemetriou7405
@demetrisdemetriou7405 24 күн бұрын
Very good video! Short and to the point. Well done!
@ZeVulj
@ZeVulj 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the upload is bad, can't change the quality and its set to 144p
@calebayton9073
@calebayton9073 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm confused, why is the title of this video, "Why did Britain Attack the Greeks in 1944?" I do not know a lot about this conflict, but going off the information presented in this video alone, the British; supported the Greeks militarily against the Axis from the very beginning, provided the vast majority of arms and support for the Greek resistance, collaborated with the Greeks in "invading" the country to drive out the Nazis, as the video put's it were invited to "blow-out the fuse [of the Greek powder keg]" by the Greek Government, did not fire a shot in anger until 12:03 in this video and only then in defence, the Ark Force "offensive" only went so far as to retake the land taken by the Communists, then the British brokered a ceasefire, a peace settlement and new government, then left peacefully. What, in this whole list of things this video describes the British doing constitutes an "Attack on the Greeks?" Not only is the title misleading, to then say in the video that the British decided to "involve themselves," suggests they did this out of their own supposedly imperialistic geo-political ambitions. You guys said yourselves, that the British were practically the only Allied party involved from the Italian invasion onwards, at the request, permission, and with the gratitude of the Greeks themselves. The bias, particularly anti-British bias used in the language of the production of this video is remarkable. I like this channel, the quality of your videos is fantastic, but this puts a bad taste in my mouth
@Hellenic_ionian08
@Hellenic_ionian08 2 жыл бұрын
They did attack and betray the Greek people 2 times in the recent past. They napalmed the villages killing Greeks indiscriminately and murdering the Hellenic Liberation Army. Most Greeks at the time supported EAM ELAS
@calebayton9073
@calebayton9073 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hellenic_ionian08 see that would make sense if they included that in the video. I'm sure there were instances like that, that I'm not aware of. My point was, based purely off the information they presented in the video, their conclusions commentary and language didn't make sense
@Hellenic_ionian08
@Hellenic_ionian08 2 жыл бұрын
@@calebayton9073 this information is false. EAM ELAS were the true liberators of Greece and then the Brits came as conquerors and enslavers. They wanted to force the king back, and most Greeks disliked him and loved EAM ELAS DSE
@Jovan_Jarkarane
@Jovan_Jarkarane 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hellenic_ionian08 They did not attacked the Greek people but the communists. In fact they actually saved us from Communism and we should be thankful. Just to make it clear napalm is an American weapon not British. 🇬🇷🇺🇲🇬🇧
@Hellenic_ionian08
@Hellenic_ionian08 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jovan_Jarkarane no, they attacked the Greek people WHO SUPPORTED EAM ELAS DSE. NEVER FORGET WHO WERE THE TRUE LIBERATORS. ΕΑΜ ΕΛΑΣ ΜΕΛΙΓΑΛΆΣ!
@bhangrafan4480
@bhangrafan4480 2 ай бұрын
Churchill foresaw that the westward advance of the USSR would mean the spread of Communism which he vehemently opposed, this is why he was so keen for the allied second front to be in the Balkans, with the idea of forestalling the westward expansion of Soviet power. He argued for this at the allied conferences but was over-ruled by FDR who saw France as the obvious option. From Churchill's view the advance up Italy was important as a way to get allied forces into central Europe ahead of the Soviets. The war in Greece was all about suppressing Communism.
@aicolinoguillermo914
@aicolinoguillermo914 Жыл бұрын
BRAVISIMO! Very complete and precise
@yja496
@yja496 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks from different regions of the country, through out history have always fought each other.
@parsananmon
@parsananmon 2 жыл бұрын
Please cover turkish-greco war of 1920s
@MrReded69
@MrReded69 2 ай бұрын
Churchill and the Mediterranean were always a messy combination. From Gallipoli onwards.
@MemekingJag
@MemekingJag 3 ай бұрын
Griffin Johnson, the Armchair Historian sounds like a boss-level NPC you find in an end game quest hub - probably starts you on a multi-stage quest to find unique armour or a weapon while telling you in quest text about its history.
@NickariusSN
@NickariusSN 2 жыл бұрын
Great....now do a video on the Greek Junta period
@Mandark020
@Mandark020 2 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact that my Mother's Father supported the communists during the civil war, I don't know if he fought in that war though, I only know that he fought in 1940/41 in the Albanian front, and some time afterwards he was almost executed by some fascists as retaliation for something (I don't know what), escaping by walking barefoot (they had taken his boots, since he was to be killed) for days in the mountains of Epirus until he arrived at Parga where he had relatives who hid him. At some point in his life he came to regret supporting the communists, I don't know when or what changed his mind. Later in his life he would say about it : "we were young, and we didn't know any better". He did remain hostile to the political right for the rest of his life though, in his later days he was a committed social democrat and a huge admirer of the Swedish Social Democratic Party. As for my view of things, without British and US assistance, Greece would have probably ended up with a Stalinist dictatorship for close to half a century, a police state, imprisonment or death for anyone who had "diverging" or "revisionist" political views and dared to be open about it - including socialists, who they would call "social fascists" if they weren't the "correct kind" of socialist - , and a lot of poverty, similar to what the people of Albania, Romania and Bulgaria had to go through. There would be statues of Churchill and Truman in every town square in the country if it were up to me. P.S. Edited for syntax.
@TheChaosPath
@TheChaosPath 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you would also like next to their statues in every square a statue of Georgios Papadopoulos as such was the result of their actions in our country. Μπράβο πατριώτη!
@im2noob4bronze
@im2noob4bronze 2 жыл бұрын
Based, they saved us from becoming a poor stalinist state as the KKE was very much Stalinist (it's clear even from the style of their assassinations during the Civil war)
@Mandark020
@Mandark020 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChaosPath Yeah, because being against a communist dictatorship clearly implies that I have to be in favor of a military Junta... Were you drunk or something when you wrote this?
@jackthorton10
@jackthorton10 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, so you would rather enjoy the workers paradise in Greece, sure a junta is terrible don’t get me wrong, but it is probably a SLIGHTLY better outcome for a time than the commmunist turning the cradle of democracy into a future Authoritarian Cesspool
@TheChaosPath
@TheChaosPath 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackthorton10 I guess you 've outlived both and so your logical assumptions. Greeks who have lived at least a junta (like my parents for example) beg to laugh at your comment though. Why is that?
@TomLaios
@TomLaios 2 жыл бұрын
In the village I was born, the only Nazi story I can recall was my paternal grandfather being injured in a "Stuka" strafing attack .But every family had horror stories about the "andartes".As a kid, I just couldn't believe Greeks could do such horrible things to each other.
@irenecakouros7640
@irenecakouros7640 7 күн бұрын
The British showed their appreciation to the Greeks,as Mr Churchill said,Hero's fight like Greeks.
@conserva-chan2735
@conserva-chan2735 2 жыл бұрын
A vid on the Soviet-Afghan War would be so awesome.
@averagegamer6912
@averagegamer6912 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same thought!
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Soviet Forest Brother war in the Baltics
@averagegamer6912
@averagegamer6912 2 жыл бұрын
I actually live in Latvia, so yeah that would be cool (or just guerilla warfare in Eastern Europe after WW2 in general)
@conserva-chan2735
@conserva-chan2735 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagegamer6912 more videos about the early cold war in general would be great
@averagegamer6912
@averagegamer6912 2 жыл бұрын
@@conserva-chan2735 That doesn't sound like a bad option either.
@banjoodle
@banjoodle 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful documentary! Amazing you guys can fit so much information with an easy to enjoy format.
@lonniehuey5737
@lonniehuey5737 2 жыл бұрын
I really look forward to watching these videos
@texasRoofDoctor
@texasRoofDoctor Жыл бұрын
Great show. I appreciate how you go to the trouble to create high quality animation and substance vs the Southpark level of crap animation and shallow content from other channels. Kudos to the UK and US for preventing the communist vermin from taking over.
@DSD007
@DSD007 2 жыл бұрын
You are the only channel covering the Greek Civil War.
@teampeanuts8394
@teampeanuts8394 2 жыл бұрын
Other channels have and much more throughly
@jaidengabriel1675
@jaidengabriel1675 2 жыл бұрын
@@froggymusicman cold war channel is dead to me
@teampeanuts8394
@teampeanuts8394 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaidengabriel1675 Why?
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