But a while ago Capcom was able to create great games under a yearly schedule. SFA2, XVSF, CVS2, 3S, all came in the following year from the previous title. And that was the norm. SNK worked the same, with even high production pace than Capcom. KOF is the most obvious example of yearly franchise of course, but Samurai Shodown 1 to 4 were yearly releases, and Garou MOTW came the later year after Real Bout 2, and Real Bout 1 was a sequel that came in the same year of Fatal Fury 3. Also MK2 was a yearly sequel and UMK3 came in the same year of MK3. Why give so much time to devs working on a 100% recycled 2d fg in the mid 2000? That's ridiculous. Again: most 2d fg companies used to make actual new games, with new content and new sprites, in 2 years and sometimes 1 year. SS3, KOF 96 and Garou have new graphics, new stages, new story content, and were yearly sequels. These CFE guys just are incompetent and Capcom just didn't care... After all they were too focused in DMC, RE, MH, etc.

Gg

@@carlosaugusto9821 this is a rehash cause they were making a 3d game and no one liked it lmao

Yeah, they had the right idea, but they needed to put every Capcom character in it, with a roster over 100 characters.

Would’ve been more interesting if they kept the Groove system from Capcom vs SNK, and you could make any character feel like they came from whatever game.

Hauzer for CvS3!

Even if it was out before CvS2 it would look rough and cheap, because CvS1 still offered much more. This game is 100% recycled content besides stages. At least the gameplay could have been very well done as a kind of compensation to save it. Like MvC2, that is very recycled (not like this one but about 90%), worse in graphics and music, has no story content, but the gameplay and roster are the highlights and make it a great game. Maybe if it was before CvS1 it wouldn't feel dirt cheap.

​@@carlosaugusto9821 MVC2 worse music? You mean you don't like being taken for a ride?

@@carlosaugusto9821 It had a few new things but yeah it was pretty much recycle city. They should have put in more characters since they went that route. like at least 20 more.

Same thing with SVC. Something charming about these games

Great analogy. It's the same for me, but for MK Gold on Dreamcast; I actually dislike MK4 a lot, it's cringe, it's jank and broken and SoulCalibur 1 makes that game look like it came out on N64. BUT... I... get back to it, inexplicably, maybe just to torture myself, not sure why but I do.

@@lyrand6408 that’s real bc mk gold do be ass ngl, but it has a special charm

I like all sf related games but the 1st,3rd strike and street fighter ex serie sucks but that one is fun

Not only did they reuse the sprites, they only included like half of them. It's like the background is equally well animated as the fighters

Yeah, that's one reason why I never understood why people say that games like CvS2 and MvC2 look "amazing" when they all have sprites that clash horribly with each other.

The OST from this game is low key 🔥

IMO the sheer laziness of literally taking all the sprites from the old games, just mashing them together and ending up with a very disjointed look. Even the backgrounds with barely any animation to them showed how extremely low budget this title was. It didn't have any hope.

@@d0k0night Very true, in fact it looked like a retail priced MUGEN game.

I agree! Just keep Ingrid and especially the big dinosaur 😁

​@@d0k0night The thing is that 2d fgs relied on recycling sprites, which is the only reason why the genre lasted for so long... but the companies used to have the decency of expanding their games in each sequel that recycled sprites. Some of the few exceptions that had no new chars were SF2CE and HF, VSAV2, VHUN2, KOF 02 and SS5S. But then CFE is 100% recycled and yet doesn't over-deliver in other aspects like music and gameplay, which could have kinda saved the game. Like KOF 02 that must be still in the top 3 most popular titles of the series. And CFE being that way looks very bad as a game coming after MVC2 and CvS2. MVC2 btw is an example of a mostly recycled game but that is saved by a huge expansion of roster and gameplay. And that could have happened to CFE if the devs weren't lazy and Capcom still cared like until 2001 (the last year that Capcom cared about fgs... And coincidence or not, the release year of DMC1).

The concept truly is excellent, even though one could say it doesn't look special after the creation of Smash Bros. But anyway that kind of wild crossover is something much needed in the fg genre. KOF, that is actually the first crossover fg, doesn't stand out so much in that sense because of the roster is too normal. Only in things like Marvel, TVC, SVC and NGBC. And I wish Capcom returned to this idea of Capcom crossover nowadays. Compared to this idea I don't even want to hear about MVC anymore. But it would need another name to avoid the controversy. Really extensive roster and lots of references in stages and story mode in the same fashion of Pocket Fighter and SFXT. From Cyberbots and Power Stone to Monster Hunter and DMC.

But at least with MvC, the SF alpha sprites oddly enough fit a little better with the Marvel characters. In this game you had sprites from all the disparate SF series which resulted in the strangest look. A heavily shaded and smoothly animated Yun vs that choppy dinosaur? uhhh

​@@d0k0night SFA and Marvel had literally the same art style, invented by Darkstalkers. Their differences were only in animation style. But anyways the point is that they match well enough for a crossover game.

I mained her and Hauser back in the day

Its more her lore that people dont like I feel completely indifferent to her but i do like her overal design This is coming from someone who likes sylvie paula paula tho

Won't argue, after all every other track in MvC2 was better than the stage select bgm

@@GeebusCrust only because the whole song is like 15 seconds long 😝

Mugen already had better looking screenpacks in 2001/2002

To be fair the first and second marvel vs capcom games also feel like a cheap mugen game Especially the first one

@@valletas Yeah but it didn't lag from cramming tons of characters into it. lol

@@macuser7048 thats true lmao

Love how you type like me 😂

@@himuragoXD great minds think alike bro lol

This comment exactly 💯

@@kingnoire9587 now are you a beast in sf4?

@@himuragoXD o naw lol I play for fun I never got the hang of FADC’ing

NGBC was made after this, but ok

He could have been used in TvC, using that idea of big characters. I don't know if he would have looked good with the Wii graphics though, but that's another point.

Yeah, it was a hodgepodge of a game.

And to think that I used to have it on PS2 back in 2006! This game was such a dirty, cheating piece of trash game, I can't even begin to imagine how hard this motherfucker was playing against the CPU A.I., and if that shit wasn't enough to make you rage, you should check out the characters' win quotes-insulting and unforgiving as can be.👿

Maybe she was already doing spinning bird kick and just happened to parry 🤣

They were planning on having a Street Fighter 1 group that was going to have Retsu, Eagle and a pre-scarred Sagat. If they actually went through with that inclusion, it would've helped a little. It would've added... well, something to make it stand out a little and feel special.

It’s a shame this game was so lazily slapped together. I think they could’ve explored this concept in a much better way if they had implemented a groove system somewhat similar to CvS2.

@@Boonehams Oh, I know about the cut SF1 reps and it's still a shame that Retsu and Sagat didn't make the cut along with Eagle. They and Ryu could've made a solid representation for the original SF1.

@@impulse_xs Same but Capcom had to crap out a crossover ASAP and their original plan got hated on which is a shame since I feel like CFAS could've had some kind of success and criticism that didn't involve them being lazy and unprepared.

That system was a kind of stepback from the versatility invented in previous games, starting from SFA3 isms. If there was a balancing concern about CvS2 having too many modes, then ok just make a new game with less modes, like 4 or 3. But removing options wasn't good. (I also criticize KOF every single time for removing modes after KOF 98, given that KOF was the game that invented this idea in the fg genre and it should use it proudly)

MvC2 wasn't as much recycled, there were a couple new chars, and the game delivery in expanded gameplay system and roster size. Now CFE has literally nothing in its defense.

shin gouki in this game suck ass though compared to his snk and cvs versions, i would add even his alpha 3 too.

SFA was already a crossover then lol. There were even Final Fight chars besides SF1 chars.

Only Ingrid got re-used. Everyone else got dumpstered. Sad, really.

@AmbiguousGoop Hagger MVC3, Strider MVC3, Batsu vs Tatsunoko, Alex vs Tatsunoko SFV, Akira SV5, Poison SF IV, X Tekken, Charlie SFV