Why Did Russia Choose Invasion Over Nukes? || Ask Peter Zeihan

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Zeihan on Geopolitics

2 ай бұрын

For years I’ve warned that a war between Russia and Ukraine was inevitable, but why didn't Putin just play the nuke card? As an add-on, we'll also be touching on some new Russian alliances that could rub the US the wrong way.
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@DavianHeartley
@DavianHeartley Ай бұрын
After watching Peter for a while, I think I’ll sum it all up with: We’re fucked, but the other guys are fucked more.
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69 Ай бұрын
That's politics baby.
@Drippydogetter
@Drippydogetter Ай бұрын
Fr😂
@luisekjeldsen1515
@luisekjeldsen1515 Ай бұрын
No were are not !! Russia is fucked , nd Ukraine i at the moment, but they will recover, russia will fall apart, and once more have to rebuild !!
@RoninTF2011
@RoninTF2011 Ай бұрын
@@luisekjeldsen1515 Don't know...depending on the election outcomes in the US, Putin can be able to dictate the "peace"...from that point on they will go up unfortunatly...
@s.a.charles271
@s.a.charles271 Ай бұрын
Top comment, fricken hilarious
@caspersams6010
@caspersams6010 Ай бұрын
I think there is a big difference between using nukes to demand tribute from other countries and using nukes to deter an invasion
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
deter russian invasion
@sakusto
@sakusto Ай бұрын
And that's what's so revealing about russia, they are not actually concerned about their own security, they just have geopolitical ambitions that require invasion of other countries
@jrapp1468
@jrapp1468 Ай бұрын
​@@sakusto Really, so allowing NATO to position troops and weapons on Russia's doorstep, with no natural defensive barriers is reasonable to you? You think the US would allow China/Russia to stage weapons and troops in Mexico?
@Michael-me6qu
@Michael-me6qu Ай бұрын
@@jrapp1468 yeah but its not likle the US or Nato are actually gonna attack Russai withoiut some serious provocation
@peka2478
@peka2478 Ай бұрын
@@jrapp1468 the US would certainly not invade and annex territory, claiming it was theirs by right anyway etc. Also, what difference is there between NATO troops in Ukraine and NATO troops in Finland? Is Finland gonna be attacked next? Is it completely untenable for Russia that NATO troops will be stationed less than 150km from StP? Is there any scenario where NATO would attack Russia ignoring the 6000 nuclear warheads that Russia would launch at NATO countries? Do you REALLY believe that? Who would agree to this? Macron? Scholz? Biden? Trump? Trudeau? Sunak? Do you actually have any real "dangerous" scenario for Russia?
@gyorgymuller5060
@gyorgymuller5060 Ай бұрын
The warsaw pact actually invaded Czechoslovakia in 68, although soviet troops outnumbered others 5 to 1, but still, thats a precedent.
@kotbayun6731
@kotbayun6731 Ай бұрын
actualy they did not. it was the coup, it had to be put down. funny thing, i hear so much about Czech and Hungarian unreasts, but noone mentioned what was done with Itallians and how brits used nazi to fight greeks in their own country right after WWII.
@maciek_k.cichon
@maciek_k.cichon Ай бұрын
@@kotbayun6731 Ah, Greece. A proxy between imperialists in London and Moscow. And as for 'had'... 'had to be in ruSSia, and nowhere else'.
@hybridarmyoffreeworld
@hybridarmyoffreeworld Ай бұрын
yes, Peter knows nothing about Muscovite horde ....
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Ай бұрын
Soviet moles inside the CIA and Western Intelligence identified all the resistance groups who remained after WWII in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, then eliminated them before their “liberators” arrived in 1956 and 1968. The CIA was seeded with 20 double agents from Belorussia, Nazi intelligence, Russia, and Eastern European nations who were assets before, during, and after the War. Many came in on false defector or genuine recruitment channels into the OSS, including guys like George de Mohrenschildt. Many saw the freedom and superior political-economic model of the US and West and ceased being Soviet assets, but many did not.
@JohnDoe-iq5xv
@JohnDoe-iq5xv Ай бұрын
Yup, that is Peter`s weakness. He likes to listen to himself and sometimes forgets to take a step back (or to take a breath and count to five). I still like to listen to him.
@pjhgerlach
@pjhgerlach Ай бұрын
Choose invasion over nukes? Because using the later would be suicide.
@RoninTF2011
@RoninTF2011 Ай бұрын
...and they have a presidential candidate in the US who plans on handing them victory on a silver Platter
@infidelheretic923
@infidelheretic923 Ай бұрын
The former is as well. Just slower.
@RoninTF2011
@RoninTF2011 Ай бұрын
@@infidelheretic923 don't see what he could do different ...apart from risking US soldiers directly (which would be a pretty hard sell)
@RamblingRodeo
@RamblingRodeo Ай бұрын
@@RoninTF2011 Oh i wouldnt worry about that because this US Admin, has plans for a DRAFT, we have 30-40% recruitment levels are down, the only way to ensure those number is a DRAFt, no one should be all gunho for WAR, id be more concerned false flag operation to suspend the US elections for a WORLD WAR and draft.
@Roboticpycotic
@Roboticpycotic Ай бұрын
I'm curious what the average Russia thinks...
@inzhener2007
@inzhener2007 Ай бұрын
Russia has never ever wanted to use nukes, only nuclear blackmail.
@srp7038
@srp7038 Ай бұрын
Well, that is all nukes are good for. MAD ensures that anything more is suicide.
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
fart after fart 24/7
@markwriter2698
@markwriter2698 Ай бұрын
Blackmail is logical . Same as North Korea.
@DrLoaky
@DrLoaky Ай бұрын
they also made it clear they will only ever use nukes if their country is threatend with annihilation. So unless NATO invades russia they will not use nukes.
@bigcity2085
@bigcity2085 Ай бұрын
Putin is on record (not that he's trustworthy,mind you) as stating nukes are for deterrence only and not an offensive weapon. Maybe that's why we keep him around.
@dennisspackman7147
@dennisspackman7147 Ай бұрын
Well if you want to occupy and control and area it makes sense not to make that area radioactive
@crinolynneendymion8755
@crinolynneendymion8755 Ай бұрын
Chernobyl notwithstanding.
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 Ай бұрын
Prevailing global winds are west to east, BUT local conditions can carry the fallout just about anywhere locally. Remember Chernobyl sent particulates North into Scandinavian regions.
@grahamcook9289
@grahamcook9289 Ай бұрын
Zeiny misunderstood the question. He asked why does Russia feel the need to occupy territory for national security, when the ownership of nuclear weapons guarantees national security from external states.
@dcc70
@dcc70 Ай бұрын
I always thought it was a BS rationale that Russia needed to occupy all neighboring territories until they gained some geographic barriers for security reasons. Zeihan cited the same rationale in the past as well. Here he modified the rationale to say Russia has to occupy in order to exert influence. I suppose you can say any successful democratic country that borders Russia is a threat to Putin because Russian people might see that and decide they want a different government. Then no geographic barrier can prevent that.
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah Ай бұрын
⁠@@dcc70there’s a kernel of truth to that, there is an interview from Russian state tv with an elderly man from Kherson shortly after the invasion when they were forcing Russian passports on the locals. The old man surprised the crew because he was a former Russian Soviet military officer that wanted nothing to do with Russia and wanted to live in Ukraine.
@mkvenner2
@mkvenner2 Ай бұрын
Short answer is Russia is flat with very few natural barriers within their borders
@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 Ай бұрын
@@dcc70 Russians and Ukrainians are among the largest demographic minorities in each others country, if not THE largest. People have relatives, employees, friends etc all on both sides of the border. One of them is in the process of becoming more aligned with Europe, purging its old Soviet-minded corruption, more prosperous, more democratic, more pointed to the future - while the other one is still a land of outhouses and dirt roads. Putin apparently couldn't let his people see that.
@kerwinbrown4180
@kerwinbrown4180 Ай бұрын
Ocean access.
@gersellars5979
@gersellars5979 Ай бұрын
What about the Warsaw pact countries invading Czechoslovakia? That is those countries deployed outside their own country
@BurninVinyl
@BurninVinyl Ай бұрын
Czechoslovakia was in Warsaw Pact.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Ай бұрын
You're correct. Peter, I've noticed, sometimes has a habit of misspeaking and I believe what he meant to say was that no Soviet ally ever deployed troops outside of its own... or other ally's... territory. Czechoslovakia, being a fellow Warsaw Pact member, would not have, in the opinion of the Soviets, amounted to an international deployment since Moscow thought of all of them as their own.
@TalRohan
@TalRohan Ай бұрын
Both Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia , as far as I know, were in major civil wars before anyone stepped in to do anything, and those that did, stepped in to stop the fighting so they could be broken up into the new states that they are now.
@monsterboomer8051
@monsterboomer8051 Ай бұрын
@@TalRohan Czechoslovakia was never in civil war.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Ай бұрын
@@TalRohan Civil wars, by definition, mean wars on one's own territory and thus would not qualify as international deployments. And when was Czechoslovakia involved in a civil war?
@myparadiseonbantayanisland9030
@myparadiseonbantayanisland9030 Ай бұрын
China deployed to Tibet and india and vietnam maybe more😊 Russia was in cuba and nicaragua and grenada and georgia and ...maybe many more
@dcc70
@dcc70 Ай бұрын
I think he meant overseas deployment, not including port visits
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 Ай бұрын
Soviet troops helped overthrow Haile Selassie (1974) The MO is KGB inciting rebellion and Soviet troops to back up the local rebels.
@crinolynneendymion8755
@crinolynneendymion8755 Ай бұрын
@@here_we_go_again2571 To be fair, there was the Shah of Iran, Pinochet in Chile, various small nations in Central America and lets throw Hawaii into the mix.
@donaldbadowski6048
@donaldbadowski6048 Ай бұрын
Cubans were on Grenada. Clint Eastwood even made a movie about it.
@s4shop
@s4shop Ай бұрын
Those Cuban Regulars were no match for Gunny Highway
@wellesmorgado4797
@wellesmorgado4797 Ай бұрын
A Cuban friend of mine only escaped being sent to Angola because he had already started college...
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah Ай бұрын
@@wellesmorgado4797my dad’s doctor is Cuban, he got sent to Angola. He managed to gtfo out of Castro’s grasp after he came home.
@user-yz1lo5js5o
@user-yz1lo5js5o Ай бұрын
There was a small contingent from the DDR during the uprising in Czechoslovakia in 1968
@marcob.7801
@marcob.7801 Ай бұрын
Yeah....terrible movie!
@gabrielrodriguez821
@gabrielrodriguez821 Ай бұрын
Also with Cuba's deployments in Africa(he forgot Ethiopia) Castro did it without Soviet approval and of course the Soviets were fine with Cuban military intervention anyway but after the cold war ended Castro said in a nutshell " there i was fighting the cold war and the Russians were sitting on their butts, they didn't care" "One of the reasons we lost the cold war"
@joecomyns5120
@joecomyns5120 Ай бұрын
The Cubans were, in effect, mercenaries in Africa. At one stage you had the bizarre situation of US oil companies paying royalties to Angola, which in turn financed the Cuban troop deployment. At the same time the US was co-operating in some measure with the South Africans, who were fighting the Cubans. Also, the Russians weren't entirely hands off, in addition to massive arms supplies, they had advisors on the ground, a few of whom didn't make it back. Other Eastern Bloc nations had people in Africa too, East Germany and Bulgaria are two I had some contact with.
@peytonlaborde
@peytonlaborde Ай бұрын
@@joecomyns5120 You're correct. Cuba had a population issues, too many people and not enough cash. Castro needed hard currency and mercenaries solved both issues.
@maritzarivera7994
@maritzarivera7994 Ай бұрын
I always listen to Peter Zeihan! ❤
@Drippydogetter
@Drippydogetter Ай бұрын
3:28 tickled his whiskers 😂
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey Ай бұрын
😹
@bobr7955
@bobr7955 Ай бұрын
If the goal of Russia was to prevent invasion thru the gateways, why don't they recognize that tactical and strategic nukes provide more than sufficient deterrence? No one is going to invade a nuclear armed Russia and they have more territory and resources than they can utilize. This video answered the wrong question.
@aus3492
@aus3492 Ай бұрын
I've said this all along... How could the country with the largest neculear arsenal in the world be worried about security.
@blazej799
@blazej799 Ай бұрын
That is something I find really missing in all Peter's opinion about Russia. Once they obtained nukes there is no issue of plugging the access points. It actually sounds like an apology of russian imperialism with georaphical necessity.
@user-yz1lo5js5o
@user-yz1lo5js5o Ай бұрын
Only if the leadership understood in itself that they would not have the courage to use nuclear weapons even in the event of a full-scale invasion.
@blazej799
@blazej799 Ай бұрын
@@user-yz1lo5js5o but no one would blame them. This is what nukes should be for.
@jrapp1468
@jrapp1468 Ай бұрын
You think it's reasonable to rely on a last resort nuclear deterrent for your entire national security strategy? There are many plausible scenarios for Russia that couldn't be solved simply with nukes. Nukes also don't let you win, they simply guarantee that both sides lose.
@CautionCU
@CautionCU Ай бұрын
The problem with this thinking that the USA can give up it's security monopoly without an impact is that other countries will be forced to build a military and then the USA will not be able to get the monopoly back without another prolonged standoff (at best).
@Al-oe8ib
@Al-oe8ib Ай бұрын
It is called Mutually Assured Destruction
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 Ай бұрын
Is it any surprize to anyone the Russians are masters at Russian roullet?
@jacekpiterow900
@jacekpiterow900 Ай бұрын
You had Polish soldiers in Prague...
@Matt_K
@Matt_K Ай бұрын
Poland was not an "ally" of Russia
@michajastrzebski4383
@michajastrzebski4383 Ай бұрын
exactly, he forgot that - rather significant - event.
@michajastrzebski4383
@michajastrzebski4383 Ай бұрын
@@Matt_K well, technically we were an "allied" state, in actuality more of a hostage state. Still - the troops were deployed. But then again, russia doesnt have, and never had allies, because they dont consider anyone an ally - they have tools, not allies or friends.
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
@@michajastrzebski4383 they used warsaw-moscow pact countries like toilet paper.
@michajastrzebski4383
@michajastrzebski4383 Ай бұрын
@@albertmaziarz6739 yep, they did use us. Yet, still, on paper and technically, it was that we were an allied nation.
@BladeTheWatcher
@BladeTheWatcher Ай бұрын
BTW, Russia used Hungarian troops to beat down the rebellion in Prague. They typically didn't trust the troops from the Warsaw Pact, gave them inferior equipment, but preferred to pit them against each other, and use them canon fodder in case of a war. For example, Hungary built extensive fortifications in the south to prepare for a confrontation with Yugoslavia.
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Ай бұрын
Romania did the same on the border with Yugoslavia... most likely orders from Moscow.
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 Ай бұрын
Stalin's whole plan consisted of setting European nations against one another. Much like other's have done throughout history/world. Hitler was a godsend to Stalin, who supported Germanies buildup to WWII. Then betrayed instead of defending bordering territories (which is what the current matter is about) when overnight he sent in soviet partisans and troops to take them over (before Hitler even attacted). He signed agreement WITH Hitler to devide Poland, all while setting up troops/fources to attack German oil fields to the south. Stalin played victim the whole damn time! Russa intelligence plays the same games to this day. Read Victor Surorov's books on the history of Stalin, their quite detailed and enlightening.
@sluggo206
@sluggo206 Ай бұрын
"They typically didn't trust the troops from the Warsaw Pact": I wouldn't trust them either if I were oppressing their countries against their will.
@dzonikg
@dzonikg Ай бұрын
@@Bayard1503 Well we also in YUgoslavia build fortifications on border with Warhsaw pact ,but champion is for sure Albania who build 750 000 bunkers to deffend from Yugoslavia even we never wanted anything there ,it was actualy oposite ,Albanians always wanted Kosovo
@code1n
@code1n Ай бұрын
yep. 30k troops from Poland also had disappeared from the story
@nikolayuzunov9812
@nikolayuzunov9812 Ай бұрын
As much as I like to listen to Peter talk, take what he says with a grain of salt. I am a Bulgarian and I'd like to say that contrary to what he staited, we were one of the five Warsaw Pact nations that deployed troops in Czekoslovakia during the Prague Spring. There was even a very famous graffiti here in Sofia about 10-15 years ago, by which the Bulgarian street artist apologized to the Check people, for our tanks participating in the invasion of their country. Peter is extremely articulate and intelligent, but we gotta remember that this is a double edged sword sometimes. I guess what I'm trying to say is, confidence and being articulate is not equal to being factual and that's what we gotta remember, nowadays more than ever.
@christopherholbert1878
@christopherholbert1878 Ай бұрын
Peter what’s the impact of Saudi Arabia not extending the petroleum dollar agreement? Thanks
@IloveDoubleD
@IloveDoubleD Ай бұрын
Did someone really ask why Russia hasn't used nukes? A dumber question I could not imagine.
@mountainmanmike1014
@mountainmanmike1014 Ай бұрын
You are in a room with pz fan boys. They aren't the brightest bulbs out there.
@SonnyBubba
@SonnyBubba Ай бұрын
He asked why Russia hasn’t threatened to use nukes. The Russian strategic situation hasn’t changed in the last 400 years. If they occupy Warsaw, Romania, and the Baltic states, they are as secure as possible against invasion. The question: why invade Ukraine when you can withdraw from the No-first-use treaty instead?
@hohenzollern6025
@hohenzollern6025 Ай бұрын
He asked why Russia chose buffer zones for defense against invasion when they have nukes. Everyone in this thread is wrong, Ya'll need to clean yer ears out.
@IloveDoubleD
@IloveDoubleD Ай бұрын
@@SonnyBubba They threaten to use nukes every day almost.
@irekszymanski8415
@irekszymanski8415 Ай бұрын
1968 Prague? Forgoten??
@cry0689
@cry0689 Ай бұрын
5:09 Could someone elaborate on his claim that the US Navy ceasing trade route security would destabilize Iran, China, and Russia specifically? I’m assuming it means they cut off coverage for Eastern trade routes, but would it be a viable (or realistic) option in the future?
@MrWhitmen1981
@MrWhitmen1981 Ай бұрын
Yes, it would be very easy. What would Iran or China do if they can’t trade with the west or the rest of the world. It would be regressive back to 1950s China which was horrible place to live compared to now with imports of basically everything that’s pleasurable and access to the cutting edge of western technology and education which is what makes the US so dangerous.
@demented8431
@demented8431 Ай бұрын
The books on the shelf behind the interviewer look new and unopened, but the liquor bottles show some use.
@Leftatalbuquerque
@Leftatalbuquerque Ай бұрын
Isn't Russia directly downwind?
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Ай бұрын
Yes, and your point is? The ywill kill a few hunred thousand and another 100.000 get terminal cancer. You think that interests the russians in what way?
@hkonhelgesen
@hkonhelgesen Ай бұрын
Yes. It is. If they ever care.
@Tortuga_76
@Tortuga_76 Ай бұрын
Exactly!! It's pissing in the wind. I think the wind factor is a key reason to consider Russia's threats of short-range attacks as a lot of bluff. Prevailing westerly winds would have to be a launch consideration for the Russians in nuking Europe, so the weather forecast would dictate, and maybe serve as some warning to the targets. Like the Nevada Test Site should have done decades ago with its atmospheric tests before contaminating the Southwest with wind-driven fallout. Even if NATO showed restraint in a Russian attack on a NATO state or Ukraine, wind driven nuclear fallout would still potentially affect several other countries to the east. As stated, if they ever care.
@joshtroufield
@joshtroufield Ай бұрын
chinese and russian troops were absolutely in korea peter.
@user-tk2hl4fz2l
@user-tk2hl4fz2l Ай бұрын
No…..
@downstream0114
@downstream0114 Ай бұрын
@@user-tk2hl4fz2l Battle of Chosin Reservoir.
@downstream0114
@downstream0114 Ай бұрын
And Vietnam, but I think he means deploying further than next door.
@lordhelmchen4645
@lordhelmchen4645 Ай бұрын
@@downstream0114 of course they were
@u2beuser714
@u2beuser714 Ай бұрын
If peter zaihan is this wrong about basic historical facts (abc in history) makes you wonder how utterly wrong he is about predicting supposed collapse of other countries
@fractalart8352
@fractalart8352 Ай бұрын
Our "nuclear blackmail" is cutting off either shipping lanes or USD access. It's also not as effective, but somehow Peter makes it seem we have absolute superiority. It does make us feel good but probably not a good bet
@user-ch2pw5fj8o
@user-ch2pw5fj8o Ай бұрын
To your comment about the (paraphrasing here) ‘US interfering with international shipping that China, Russia, Iran would end the next day’, at that point wouldn’t those countries then feel threatened and retaliate?
@nicholashubbard8645
@nicholashubbard8645 Ай бұрын
I'm puzzled by the deliberate placement of a collection of alcohol bottles and the unusual stacking of books. I don't follow the signal being sent.
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
well organized
@grodesby3422
@grodesby3422 Ай бұрын
Mostly empty bottles of booze too for some reason
@NefastusJones
@NefastusJones Ай бұрын
Dude is single. Very single....
@peterdixon7734
@peterdixon7734 Ай бұрын
I am reminded of I comment I once saw in a book on Northern Ireland by someone who had seen too much horror: "Draw the curtains, have a whisky, a wank, and forget what's out there."
@jeffdittrich6778
@jeffdittrich6778 Ай бұрын
Why did this start in the middle?
@taiphun
@taiphun Ай бұрын
Don't forget the Prague Spring! On 20th of August, 1968 Warsaw Pact countries invaded Czechslovakia to crush the Prague Spring. Truth to be told, it was a much less bloody invasion than anything the Soviet Union did over its existence. The Hungarian revolution of 1956 was invaded by soviet forces alone, and the threat of a Soviet/Warsaw Pact invasion of Poland was enough to make everyone calm down in Poland in 1981.
@jarrettbobbett5230
@jarrettbobbett5230 Ай бұрын
The questions I submitted were Superior to these. Not sure why questions that were so easy were addressed.
@seamusoreilly804
@seamusoreilly804 Ай бұрын
Perhaps your superior queries will be addressed at another time.
@wojteks4712
@wojteks4712 Ай бұрын
If you have no arguments on merits (Russian Mir means poverty, decline, oppression and corruption), no wander they have to make allies by force. All Central Europe joined West because we WANTED to. Voluntarily. And Ukraine wanted the same with their Maidan revolution. This is part that russian propaganda and people thinking about geopolitics as a game of big powers always miss.
@babs420th9
@babs420th9 Ай бұрын
The Maidan revolution was a CIA-staged coup.
@danielleglorie8164
@danielleglorie8164 Ай бұрын
Germany is an american vassal since ww2.
@BobTheTrueCactus
@BobTheTrueCactus Ай бұрын
Central Europe joined the Western alliances because they're terrified of Russia.
@u2beuser714
@u2beuser714 Ай бұрын
I disagree, many countries chose to stay with russia VOLUNTARILY namely caucasian countries (although that is changing) and central asian republics (ex ussr) armenia noe changes course but before the invasion they were fully aligned with russian, also tajikistan uzbekistan were fully on board with russia. So to say that nobody chose russias side is wrong.
@BobTheTrueCactus
@BobTheTrueCactus Ай бұрын
I don't see my comment anymore, but I completely misread your comment. If you see my previous post, please completely disregard it.
@bilelsk9000
@bilelsk9000 Ай бұрын
there was global maritime shipping even before america became a country ....
@apolloeosphoros4345
@apolloeosphoros4345 Ай бұрын
because the British Empire supported it
@PerfectAgent
@PerfectAgent Ай бұрын
The British Empire also did not support the shipping of unaligned powers. The US keeps a safe ocean for all regardless of interest. If that changes the landscape changes radically.
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey Ай бұрын
Buncha junks
@DolphinWithIgloo-fg3ow
@DolphinWithIgloo-fg3ow Ай бұрын
For the powerful empires, yes. For the smaller nations, your ship is going to get pillaged and there was nothing you could do about it. The South China Sea being a main route that US protected. Now it irks China.
@drorjs
@drorjs Ай бұрын
Much easier to disrupt with current tech than it was. Ask the houthies.
@AdamKrenacs
@AdamKrenacs Ай бұрын
Peter im sorry but you are wrong. In 1968 soviet, polish, east-german and hungarian armies are deployed in Czechoslovakia to destroy the Prague Spring with 165000 troops and 4600 tanks
@evancourtney7746
@evancourtney7746 Ай бұрын
Why isn't Ukraine issuing Letters of Marque against Russian and Iranian shipping, and why aren't we respecting them in American courts?
@janokero
@janokero Ай бұрын
4th minute, Peter states that only Cuba invaded other country, but there was 1968 Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia. USSR, Poland, Hungary and Bulgaria invaded CSSR to prevent reforms lead by Dubcek. Although they were hoping there will not be resistance by the Armed forces, they did know for sure.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 Ай бұрын
another proof zeihan does not know everything. any western europaen remotely alive at that time knows there were other warsaw pact countries involved, though mostly symbolically
@BTSeeYa
@BTSeeYa Ай бұрын
Hi, would love to hear Peter's take on sodium batteries, cheap Chinese EVs, and western countries basically putting an embargo on those imports.
@robkafczyk2752
@robkafczyk2752 Ай бұрын
He has talked a lot about all these issues. I'd recommend you watch all of his videos. Either side of the new "iron curtain" you fall on or support, he's certainly worth watching.
@dzonikg
@dzonikg Ай бұрын
@@robkafczyk2752 Difference is that then east had traded barriers and this time is west who has them
@garyshan7239
@garyshan7239 Ай бұрын
China has 10Ks of EVs dumped after manufacture just deteriating-the govt wants to claim they are being made but they arent all being purchased-they slap a plate on them so a sale is recorded then haul them off to the car dumps to rot. Maybe when China implodes they will mine those dumps for materials for resale for someone who actually sells the Evs. Peter covers this.
@robkafczyk2752
@robkafczyk2752 Ай бұрын
@@dzonikg Not sure what you mean. Would appreciate if you were to elaborate.
@robkafczyk2752
@robkafczyk2752 Ай бұрын
@@dzonikg Not sure what you mean. Would appreciate if you were to elaborate.
@AliceinWonderlandzz
@AliceinWonderlandzz Ай бұрын
Ask Peter: Is there a scenario for internal change in Russia and a restoration of it's status as a trade nation? Is such a scenario necessary to avoid a nuclear confrontation? You've previously stated Russia will dissolve into breakaway states, but they will still have nukes to kill the planet five times over. How does this stabilize?
@janvesely3279
@janvesely3279 Ай бұрын
Soviet, Polish, Hungarian, GDR and Bulgarian soldiers attacked Czechoslovakia in August 1968. My father was mobilized in winter 1981 for attack into Poland which was prevented by Polish coup d'etat.
@poohoff
@poohoff Ай бұрын
Probably same reason Americans chose 20 years of failure in Afghanistan over nukes
@Notrog21
@Notrog21 Ай бұрын
Wow there are some dummies in here. Some of you folks need to go back to the 100 level KZfaq videos…
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 Ай бұрын
20 years moving piles of rocks around and your suggestion is we should have used nukes to move those piles of rocks around?
@mam0lechinookclan607
@mam0lechinookclan607 Ай бұрын
The last point is just not true for example, the NVA of the GDR was delpoyed in czechia unter the soviets to crush the revolt
@user-vd2ix5jy8z
@user-vd2ix5jy8z Ай бұрын
Exactly, unfortunately en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Pact_invasion_of_Czechoslovakia
@georgekeiser3867
@georgekeiser3867 Ай бұрын
none of this video was true.
@chetpomeroy1399
@chetpomeroy1399 Ай бұрын
East Germany and Czechoslovakia were both Warsaw Pact members during the Prague Spring of 1968.
@u2beuser714
@u2beuser714 Ай бұрын
If peter zaihan is wrong about this minor detail, makes you wonder how wrong he is about other major things like the supposed COLLAPSE of certain countries
@BrianTHOMAS-ei8fu
@BrianTHOMAS-ei8fu Ай бұрын
He had great challenging questions. Thx for the questions and thx to Peter for clear precise answers. Great clip!
@code1n
@code1n Ай бұрын
4:11 Warsaw pact troops in Prague 1968 (there were tens of thousands of troops and thousands of tanks) , the Soviet forces in Hungary 1958 also had troops from Warsaw Pact countries
@greendsnow
@greendsnow Ай бұрын
these are only assumptions...
@michaelasamoah2390
@michaelasamoah2390 Ай бұрын
Quetion is really stupid one
@arshadali2312
@arshadali2312 Ай бұрын
Zeihan isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
@ImHavingaCoronary
@ImHavingaCoronary Ай бұрын
A real no brainer question, but Peter answered it interestingly.
@Lomotpk
@Lomotpk Ай бұрын
CHANGE THE FORMAT, slightly. Have Peter start with a monologue that addresses the question written in the title. Then....the host can ask follow up questions
@Gogoakar
@Gogoakar Ай бұрын
You had Polish troups in Czecoslovakia 1968.
@andrewstevens9481
@andrewstevens9481 Ай бұрын
The question was why does Russia feel the need to occupy the buffer states when no country in their right mind would invade a country with the largest nuclear arsenal. And on that point I still don't understand the Russian mindset and this wasn't addressed. But I think what Peter is trying to say is they still need the strategic recourses from outside countries to function as a modern state. And even with nukes they can't bully other countries beyond their own borders into providing them with whatever they want without a fair trade system which Russia isn't great at working in.
@sluggo206
@sluggo206 Ай бұрын
The trade system was working. Russia could have gotten whatever goods it needed by not interfering with its neighbors. If it worked for the Baltic countries, Ukraine, Poland, and the rest of the ex-Warsaw Pact, it could work for Russia too. But that could get Russians thinking democracy could work for them, and that's incompatible with Putin's long-term rule and corruption.
@matthewhendrix6883
@matthewhendrix6883 Ай бұрын
Alot of people forget about china's deployment to Djibouti. It was a disaster for the Chinese.
@thomasmoss1066
@thomasmoss1066 Ай бұрын
I want a drink now and its 5;45 AM. Thanks!
@anne-mm2yb
@anne-mm2yb Ай бұрын
😂
@arkangeln910c8
@arkangeln910c8 Ай бұрын
Great comments from peter. Well explained.
@BarriosGroupie
@BarriosGroupie Ай бұрын
I think there's interesting parallels between Turkey and Russia. Turkey used to have its usual coup d'états to maintain its secular constitution. The last and unsuccessful attempt took place in 2016 demonstrating that Turkey was now a mature, strong, democratic nation. Modern Russia is barely thirty years old, with still a relative recent history of invading surrounding sovereign nations to maintain its security. Note also that the policy of Bush and Blair dealing with regime change in Iraq had a profound influence upon the Russians coming up with their strategy in dealing with rising Ukrainian nationalism.
@rawprawn8198
@rawprawn8198 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Peter makes assertions that often go wrong. He said only about 18 months ago that Russia would lose. Anyone following carefully will appreciate that Ukraine cannot and will not win. Indeed, it will become a rump state and a landlocked one at that. Also, He says China has only deployed outside of China once (to Djibouti). Then what about the 1979 Vietnam invasion where it was spanked?
@sifu64
@sifu64 Ай бұрын
Or that Gaza was a "tempest in a tea pot". He's got a fascinatingly confident smug delivery, but it's basically the same stuff as Stratfor George Friedman or a Condi Rice neo con generality
@PandaPanda-ud4ne
@PandaPanda-ud4ne Ай бұрын
Anyone carefully following sees that russian has no chance. Indeed, russia will become more poor than it already is, with no modern technology for its population and army. Russia will never take Odessa, for example. It is too poor and too backwards to do so. Ukraine´s strength is the assistance from the west, the EU and the USA. Putin has lost the goodwill of both, and is their enemy now, without having allies of the same calibre at its side.
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg
@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg Ай бұрын
​​@@sifu64Zeihan literally comes from Stratfor. And his track record is just as "good".
@Konstantin2004
@Konstantin2004 Ай бұрын
How will Russia get the troops and material to take the entire coastline when they barely can advance a couple of kilometres from their own border (the recently failed Russian offensive)?
@BurninVinyl
@BurninVinyl Ай бұрын
50 percent of Russian conquest of Ukraine regained by Ukranians troops (the famous "it's a faint" line), to you is like peanuts right?
@edwardkennedy6443
@edwardkennedy6443 Ай бұрын
Weird question. Putin did not invade to destroy cities and reign over the ruins. His goal was to regain control over the rebellious province by force, because in his understanding, Ukraine is not a country, but a territory, and Ukrainians are not a nation but simply the population of these territories. All Ukrainian assets would be divided among his accomplices, and those who disagreed would be sent for re-education, and maybe even quietly executed. This is exactly what Prigozhin was talking about in the last months of his life, completely discarding fairy tales about the Nazis and the salvation of some Russian-speaking population. Now, more than two years after the start of this “brilliant” military operation, the gloves have been thrown off and the Russian army is simply leveling cities with missiles and bombs. But not because they hope for victory, but because in their military doctrine it is written to destroy what they cannot capture. Nevertheless, if the Russian army collapses at some stage and is forced to leave part of the territories already recognized as part of Russia, then Putin can press the button regardless of the consequences.
@dirtmcgirt168
@dirtmcgirt168 Ай бұрын
Kinda like US invading afganistan, Iraq and Vietnam?
@edwardkennedy6443
@edwardkennedy6443 Ай бұрын
@@dirtmcgirt168 And how Russia invaded Ukraine in the twenties of the last century, followed by invasions of Finland, Poland, Afghanistan, Moldova, Chechnya, Georgia and again in Ukraine.
@CanadianAnglican
@CanadianAnglican Ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video.
@matthewfrueh5699
@matthewfrueh5699 Ай бұрын
I usually agree with Peter, but didn’t other countries in the Warsaw Pact other than the USSR successfully deploy to Czechoslovakia in 1968 and achieve their mission? Granted that was a long time ago and a relatively short distance for those Eastern European neighbors. Just seeking accuracy.
@arshadali2312
@arshadali2312 Ай бұрын
The CIA's mouthpiece holds forth. It was to forestall a nuclear conflict that Putin initiated his "special military operation." Including Ukraine in NATO would have meant US nuclear-tipped missiles minutes away from St. Petersburg and Moscow. How would the USA feel with Russian missiles in Mexico or Canada?
@yziib3578
@yziib3578 Ай бұрын
'How would the USA feel with Russian missiles in Mexico or Canada?' We already know the answer from history. In 1962, and they did not like it.
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
ukraine ask for admission to european union not nato , dont spread russian lies manure
@QuietRefl4378
@QuietRefl4378 Ай бұрын
Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons for sovereignty. The US has no interest in putting nuclear weapons in Ukraine. That's just another excuse for the illegal invasion. One of many excuses.
@arshadali2312
@arshadali2312 Ай бұрын
@@albertmaziarz6739 Ukraine does what the USA tells it to do. Stop spreading US manure.
@TimAZ-ih7yb
@TimAZ-ih7yb Ай бұрын
Zeihan is today’s version of Max Headroom. He spews words, and sometimes they make sense.
@balzacq
@balzacq Ай бұрын
Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds observes that the US used to worry about how to keep the Strait of Hormuz open, and now all it has to worry about is how to close it.
@lonewolfdfs
@lonewolfdfs Ай бұрын
Great content!
@totalice734
@totalice734 Ай бұрын
how many times has america done the occupation?
@brulsmurf
@brulsmurf Ай бұрын
Many times. At least they also leave again.
@Rob-metoo527
@Rob-metoo527 Ай бұрын
How many?
@wojteks4712
@wojteks4712 Ай бұрын
US withdraws after interventions, Russia stays and incorporates land. Its their official goal - to incorporate Ukrainian lands. See the difference?
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 Ай бұрын
at least once, and they still havent left after more than 300 years.
@marcux83
@marcux83 Ай бұрын
whataboutism as it is expected.. l
@gettriggered9724
@gettriggered9724 Ай бұрын
Sam Hyde and Jay Dyer roasting little Pete was hilarious.
@Dafnessific
@Dafnessific Ай бұрын
Prague Spring? The USSR itself, plus Bulgaria, Poland and Hungary all invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 Ай бұрын
you forgot the east germans
@MrDeviathan
@MrDeviathan Ай бұрын
04:10 - what about Polish troops deployed to Czechoslovakia in 1968? My own grandfather woke up in his AFV to find out these were no manouvers but an actual invasion of a neighbouring country. Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia.
@jmurphy6767
@jmurphy6767 Ай бұрын
Even at the height of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact, Russia was insecure. It’s a condition that cannot be allayed. And their belief in a constant existential threat is an existential threat to the West. We must work hard to contain their ambitions.
@FactsYall
@FactsYall Ай бұрын
I've subbed to you twice today already!
@RommelTesla
@RommelTesla Ай бұрын
The claim no one other than Russia put troops outside of their own border aside from Cuba is patently wrong. China deployed 2.4 million troops to Korea during the Korean War and to a much lesser extent into Vietnam and Rhodesian Brush War. The last few videos Peter has released have been riddled with poorly researched adhoc responses like this or claiming the swing towards the political right in Europe hasn't had anything to do with immigration.
@figram
@figram Ай бұрын
Peter you are mistaken about deploying forces by warsaw pact, it happened in Hungary and Czech Republic in 1960s
@user-je3kx6fw7e
@user-je3kx6fw7e Ай бұрын
WHY? Because of the: Prevailing Westerly Winds.
@Dtansing1
@Dtansing1 Ай бұрын
Great content. Thank you Peter. Hello from Australia.
@Rustsamurai1
@Rustsamurai1 Ай бұрын
Russia was very reluctant to do what they are doing in the borderlands.
@MrTeff999
@MrTeff999 Ай бұрын
Short term consequences and long-term consequences the action can be very different
@ernesthale2471
@ernesthale2471 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@joaquimbelbut4829
@joaquimbelbut4829 Ай бұрын
The wind
@jimluebke3869
@jimluebke3869 Ай бұрын
Which nuke card do you mean -- strategic or tactical?
@Kirkrrr
@Kirkrrr Ай бұрын
Can we please get some thoughts on the recent US-Ukraine security agreement?
@1970broncoman
@1970broncoman Ай бұрын
Nukes ARE used by just having the ability to use them
@Alanginger
@Alanginger Ай бұрын
What about the BRICS ? Is that not moving the dial without war ?
@srp7038
@srp7038 Ай бұрын
BRICS is an acronym, not an alliance.
@shawnthomas644
@shawnthomas644 Ай бұрын
You do know what those letters stand for right? They are an economic alliance at the very least and several of those letters lend military aid to each other. So alliance? In at least some areas yes. The fact that they have even more countries requesting membership is a little troublesome to say the least for the western powers.
@MatthewDuRousseau
@MatthewDuRousseau Ай бұрын
Hi Peter (and team)! Very curious about your perspective on what signs we would see that would mean China is imminently going to invade Taiwan? We’ve seen them buying gold and selling US treasuries heavily, what would happen in the weeks and even days/hours before the invasion?
@JonJon-of5qh
@JonJon-of5qh Ай бұрын
The map in the background looks like a crazy hat
@Rahviel80
@Rahviel80 Ай бұрын
Mr Zeihan do not forget about joint warsaw pact forces invasion on Czechoslovakia in 1968.
@zanychelly
@zanychelly Ай бұрын
Come Peter, maybe you could consider getting a better headset… your audio is always bad in these interviews, worse than your videos on the fly… Maybe you could consider an Audeze Maxwell, Razer Blackshark V2 Pro, Corsair Virtuoso… these tree has Incredible mic qualities.
@pohkeee
@pohkeee Ай бұрын
Given the realities of game theory over enough turns of play…once you play the asshat repeatedly…you will lose eventually. But looking back at history, some of the most aggressive leaders turned out in the long run to be pathetic at long term strategy!
@AirB-101
@AirB-101 Ай бұрын
From Europe: Merci!
@grisza77
@grisza77 Ай бұрын
Czechoslovakia in 68 involved whole Warsaw Pact.
@MrThisischris
@MrThisischris Ай бұрын
No credit or mention of the one that asked the question.
@jamesellis4071
@jamesellis4071 Ай бұрын
The coalition of the BRICS nations will ultimately be a problem for the US. Saudis Arabia just ended the petrodollar agreement with the US. China and other countries have slowed their purchasing of US treasuries and started buying gold. And with the loss of the petrodollar these countries will not have to hold US dollars anymore. This can cause hyperinflation here as those dollars return. I am waiting to hear Peter dismiss this as insignificant.
@betterdonotanswer
@betterdonotanswer Ай бұрын
Q: For years I’ve warned that a war between Russia and Ukraine was inevitable... A: Such war would be impossible since Ukraine is only historical Rusь, Rosia, Russia or Ruthenia on this planet. As for the Muscovite-Ukrainian war, it never stopped since 1486 when Muscovy invaded Severia (northeastern Ukraine) for the first time. Speaking of modern time, this particular iteration of the same war has been started in 1991.
@nilovcam1988
@nilovcam1988 Ай бұрын
Collection of empty bottles is seriously affecting my concentration.
@Sirbikingviking
@Sirbikingviking Ай бұрын
Peter please comment on the recent end of the Petro dollar deal!
@albertmaziarz6739
@albertmaziarz6739 Ай бұрын
ruble printet from now on toilet paper
@michall6376
@michall6376 Ай бұрын
Why was this so short? Where’s the full version?
@insertphrasehere15
@insertphrasehere15 Ай бұрын
It annoys me that the map behind you doesn’t have New Zealand…
@leaderbuilders1699
@leaderbuilders1699 Ай бұрын
Factcheck , there were Polish troops in Czechoslovakia in ‘68, alright
@Chaldon-hl6yk
@Chaldon-hl6yk Ай бұрын
not yet
@heinrichwonders8861
@heinrichwonders8861 Ай бұрын
Sound quality is really bad. I hardly understand anything.
@recyclebills
@recyclebills Ай бұрын
The primary reasons Russia is attempting to occupy rather than nuke are: 1. Russia wants farm land in an effort to control global food supplies and feed troops in future invasions. 2. Russia wants warm water ports. 3. Russia wants to control the Chinese Road and Belt plan which passes through Ukraine. 4. Russia wants minerals, gas, and oil as they seek to control markets. 5. Russia wants territory from which attacks on the rest of Europe can be launched. 6. Russia wants children they can brainwash. Nukes would make all that impossible for at least 100 years. Nukes would destroy everything Russia wants. And finally, 7. Moscow lies directly in the path the fallout would travel as the winds travel west to east.
@goyasmind
@goyasmind Ай бұрын
Just a friendly reminder, that Bitcoin is currently at 67.5k USD, not minus 16k like Peter famously predicted…
@Dafnessific
@Dafnessific Ай бұрын
keep pooping your magic beans back and forth at each other. How come you keep valuing it in dollars?
@goyasmind
@goyasmind Ай бұрын
@@Dafnessific Does 2.2 million percent increase since birth help? Or it’s 150% average increase per year? Retirement is lovely, so are beans..
@jeremybstudentpilot5315
@jeremybstudentpilot5315 Ай бұрын
Interesting perspective. China has deployed troops around the world, a lot of it is clandestine operations. Same with North Korea and Iran.
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