Why did the Great Schism Happen?

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@ServantoftheDivine1701
@ServantoftheDivine1701 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but it is Nicene as in Bill (Nye) has (seen) Nye seen Otherwise awesome video
@Cyprus_Is_Greek
@Cyprus_Is_Greek 3 жыл бұрын
There is one true church, there is one true christianity. ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY. Anyone who study about christianity and history knows it very well. I hope one day catholics and protestand and other fake christan religions understand it and come with us again
@ELBammbeno
@ELBammbeno 3 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into doing a video on the council of Carthage and the church of Carthage with its own holy sea that would be very interesting.
@messiahjesuswon8771
@messiahjesuswon8771 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyprus_Is_Greek Christ Jesus Sabbath keeping church has never been part of The Ecclesiastical Christendom , even though some of his children have come out of That sun worshiping Mystery Religion. . . www.sabbathtruth.com/portals/20/documents/truth_triumphant.pdf HOW HER RIVALS IN RELIGION COUNTERFEITED THE PROPHECIES Apostolic Christianity, as a religion supremely superior to paganism, caused widespread upheavals in the world. So strong were her prospects of success that Jesus and His apostles were fearful of the great deceptions that would come because of imitations and counterfeits. To make a clear cut distinction between these counterfeits and genuine Christianity, new light from heaven was needed. Such revelations were provided in the last books of the New Testament. All the troth's needed to chart the future course of gospel believers were to be found in the messages from the apostles. There is little point in claiming that a certain church or doctrine came down from the days of the apostles. Sin came down from the days of the apostles, and the devil also was active at that time and before. It is not so much what came down from the days of the apostles, as what came down from the apostles themselves. Even in his day the apostle Paul wrote: “The mystery of iniquity doth already work.” The growth and final form of the mystery of iniquity which was already operating before Paul’s death is seen more clearly in the stow of the Church in the Wilderness. THE APOSTOLIC ORIGINS OF THE CHURCH IN THE WILDERNESS The rise of Christianity and the spread of the Church in Syria was startling in its rapidity. IN CONTRAST with the four hundred years of silence between Malachi and Matthew, the coming of the great Redeemer brought to the world a powerful, stimulating message and introduced a marvelous new era. None of the prophets before Him had been permitted to change the bases of the dispensation introduced by Moses. Jesus Christ, however, was that Prophet predicted by Moses who was to usher in a new dispensation. He gave to man a new revelation from Jehovah. The twelve apostles, going forth to promulgate the teachings of Jesus, formed the charter membership of the apostolic church which flourished for about five hundred years. Then gradually the combined heretical sects seized the power of the nations and drove the true church into the wilderness. Paul was willing to risk his life by performing the required ceremonies in the central sanctuary of Israel if only he might avert a rupture between Gentile and Jewish Christianity. He knew that the Gentile believers had received only a meager training in the profound truths of the gospel. Is it for this reason that practically all his epistles are written to the young, inexperienced Gentile churches? Moreover, in vision he foresaw the crushing opposition which would grow into an apostate church and which would PURSUE THE TRUE CHURCH FOR 1260 years, and therefore, he yearned to link the new Gentile churches to an experienced Judaism which had turned to Christ. Pagan Judah South Daily Papal USA 677------------------------508 --------------1260--------------1798 (2520) T.O.E SL Raphia Panion 1989 9/11 2014 2019 2021 I_______I_______I________I_________I Line of The Priests 9/11 2014 2019 20201 SL I_______I________I________I________I Line of The Levites 2014 2019 2021 SL C.O.P I_______I_________I_______I________I Line of The Nethenims Paul planted the gospel in the midst of the people who spoke the Greek language, that medium through which God was pleased to transmit to the world the most exalted of all literature, the Greek New Testament. The first revelations given to the gospel church were written in Greek. In later days a deep hatred sprang up between Greek and Latin churches, and Greek and Latin ecclesiastics hurled bitter words at one another. These theological controversies arose because both churches had grown ambitious and had allied themselves with kings and emperors. At length, in 1054, the Greek and Latin churches separated. Long before this the Latin state church feared the effect of the accumulated stores of Greek literature. Latin was made the ecclesiastical language of Western Europe. THE GREEK LANGUAGE, WITH ITS LITERATURE, WAS CONDEMNED BY ROMAN ECCLESIASTICISM, ITS STUDY FORBIDDEN, AND ITS WRITINGS ANATHEMATIZED. Ireland’s Celtic church in the medieval ages remained a center for instruction in Greek long after it had virtually disappeared elsewhere in Western Christendom. The knowledge of Greek was declared in the universities of the Latin hierarchy to be full of daggers and poison. For more than one thousand years it ceased to exist in the Teutonic kingdoms of Europe, except in the bosom of Greek and Celtic Christianity, and with those evangelical bodies which looked to the Scriptures as their only authority. The repulse of the Greek church by the Latin hierarchy left the former as a buffer between the astounding activities of Christianity in the East and the victorious sword of the papal kingdoms of Western Europe.
@srfrg9707
@srfrg9707 3 жыл бұрын
Some 'details' you forgot that are not details for us orthodox christians : Humbert de Moyenmoutier was the main reformist during the gregorian reformation of the roman church that took place in 1050, 4 years before he went to Constantinople. The gregorian reformation is the true reason of the schism as it founded the papal monarchy, using as model the roman and german empires. It gave to the pope the insignia of the emperor such as the red garnment and the sovereignty over the kings in the west. It created cardinals who have the role and insignia (purple) of the roman senate. It gave to the new state a chancellor who was no other that cardinal Humbert de Moyenmoutier. This was a great scandal for the Greeks, since it contradicted directly the inscructions of Jesus to the apostles when they asked who will be the first among them. Jesus replied "The kings of the nations rule over them and call themselves benefactors. Let not it be this way among you." For the Greeks it also fullfilled the vision of Saint John in the book of Revelation when the wife (jesus' wife =Church) corrupts herself with all the kings and becomes the Greate Prostitute, the one whit a corrupted chalice (doctrine).
@the_changerang
@the_changerang 3 жыл бұрын
Catholics: Our church is better! Orthodox: Our church is better! Protestants: Well actually... Catholics and Orthodox: *NO*
@Delft_2145
@Delft_2145 3 жыл бұрын
Hey look for once catholics and orthodox agree!
@tylerchurch2373
@tylerchurch2373 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true (I’m an Orthodox)
@strive4252
@strive4252 3 жыл бұрын
Protestantism is the best hope that Catholics and Orthodox have to reunite as now we have a common enemy.
@ghassanmina
@ghassanmina 3 жыл бұрын
@@strive4252 which enemy?
@breatheeasily4013
@breatheeasily4013 Жыл бұрын
I like all denominations and I am a Christian!
@Leivve
@Leivve 2 жыл бұрын
My friend who was a Catholic, baptized into Orthodoxy, told me that when the schism originally happened, it was expected that the east and west would smooth things out within a decade or two; at the time, no one thought it would be an eternal thing.
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 2 жыл бұрын
Who gave orthodoxy power to excommunicate? If Rome was the aggressor we know what David did under the aggression from Saul, he didn't turn on Saul.
@WoodApe100
@WoodApe100 Жыл бұрын
makes no sense
@davidhall2197
@davidhall2197 Жыл бұрын
Who says it will be eternal...and who says it will be a blessing?
@sene8675
@sene8675 Жыл бұрын
What a friend you've got. He is probably very old, was born before 1054, or possesses extraordinary powers to maintain communication with the dead.
@Churros1616
@Churros1616 Жыл бұрын
The catholic guy has the power to leave Catholicism and become orthodox. There needs to be no power given
@msidloi
@msidloi 2 жыл бұрын
It's the Nicene Creed, and the city where the council sat was Nicaea, pronounced Nye-See-A. The "cae" in Nicaea is pronounced as in Caesar.
@austinlittke7688
@austinlittke7688 Жыл бұрын
Caesar is pronounced Kye-zar
@msidloi
@msidloi Жыл бұрын
@@austinlittke7688 Not in English :-). There are other languages in which that's true.
@augustuscaesar7296
@augustuscaesar7296 Жыл бұрын
Yea, his pronunciation of Nicaea was driving me crazy, glad someone commented the correct spelling.
@amandamooneydemisendra7
@amandamooneydemisendra7 10 ай бұрын
I legit stopped the video because I kept getting distracted by the "different" pronunciation If you want people to watch your stuff, you have to use the common tongue
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 5 ай бұрын
The narrator isn't human. It's AI. The problem with AI (aside from sounding sterile at times) is that the odds of it having obscure 3rd through 11th century religious terms in its word bank are basically zero. When AI doesn't have a word in its bank, it'll default to reading said word 100% phonetically and basically hope for the best. This is almost assuredly why the pronunciation of so many important terms in this video are entirely butchered. Very low effort and honestly a bit disrespectful imo.
@PatristicRecluse
@PatristicRecluse Жыл бұрын
I'm a traditional, rigid Catholic. I will go to my grave Catholic. I have deep love and reverence for my Orthodox brothers and sisters. I pray that the historical wounds, though deep in some areas, may heal. I pray for unity. I pray that we may be one again. The Church must breath with both of it's lungs; eastern and western. Even if total unification is unlikely before the Second Coming we will be one again. Pax Vobis.
@MrJosseff
@MrJosseff 4 ай бұрын
And I, an orthodox, have the same love for all my catholic and protestant brothers, we are all one in christ even if a thousand schisms would happen between who call themselves spiritual leaders.
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 4 ай бұрын
As a Protestant, I see the universal church as all who follow the Nicean Creed, proclaiming Jesus as our Lord and Savior. As long as you do that, acknowledge that He died and was raised again, and that He is God, you're a brother/sister of mine.
@warningwarning8826
@warningwarning8826 4 ай бұрын
Lee Strobel was an award winning investigative journalist who became a Christian after trying to discredit the historical Jesus. Lee Strobel admitted it would take more faith to maintain his atheism than to become a Christian after Lee looked at the evidence. Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" is a very interesting book that can be summarized by two links I have shared below: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKqcmrp0mZ_NoXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ2lnZWi27fNj58.html
@warningwarning8826
@warningwarning8826 4 ай бұрын
Romans 10:13-15 King James Version (KJV) "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?" According to the Bible, you have to call on the name of Jesus and it must be in belief (faith) in order to be saved. But it is impossible to pray in faith while being scared about your own salvation. Try calling on Jesus while praying for others and that may help your faith. But you cannot be saved if you have the smallest amount of doubt. Interpreting scripture can lead to these conclusions if one accepts scripture as true.
@michaelhaigh9182
@michaelhaigh9182 4 ай бұрын
Don’t think Jesus was God more like Gods son or if you have a bible plz read revelation 3 v 14 reads he is the beginning of the creation of God stick to the scriptures not what man says the pagan world has come into the Christian church it was the Catholic pagan church that the trinity was formed and sadly millions of people belive it sadly
@rj5848
@rj5848 3 жыл бұрын
Martin Luther : Wait for me guys
@BrunoOliveira-kl5sx
@BrunoOliveira-kl5sx 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@chrisoleary9876
@chrisoleary9876 3 жыл бұрын
Martin Luther....I will destroy God's God's Church and splinter it into 40,000 "denominations."... If Luther wanted to "reform" why didn't he work with the Church instead of vehemently denying it!? (He had plenty of time and options) Luther HATED Jews...Hitler actually used Luther's views to initiate the Holocaust.
@b.benjamineriksson6030
@b.benjamineriksson6030 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoleary9876 He tried to work with the church. The complete break was not his idea but the rulers of the principalities of Germany. Furthermore, he was not more antisemitic than most Christians at the time so that statement is just ignorant. Furthermore, Hitler Did Not Use Luther's views to initiate the holocaust... That is over the top ignorant and shows clearly that your understanding of history is sub par to say the least. Half of Germany was catholic so why would they care about Luther? Hitler was not from a protestant family either...There were antisemitic sentiments in German before Hitler and Hitlers argument for exterminating Jews were primarily based on two things: 1: the conspiracy-theory that the Jews was the reason for Germany losing in the first world war which was an idea spread by many but probably originated with General Ludendorff. 2: So called Race-hygiene and the idea that the German people should be "purified" of people from non-European decent. Also: Hitler believed that Jews wanted to "corrupt" what he called "Aryan"-people because he thought they wanted to "dominate the world". He was an idiot.
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoleary9876 lots of Catholics hated Jews too my dude. The Jews were blamed by many to have killed Jesus.
@cosmoevents21st56
@cosmoevents21st56 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisoleary9876 That's only if you believe the Church of Rome to be the true church which of course the Orthodox Church denies due to the fact that Rome has added many things to the faith that the Orthodox reject like the Filioque or Purgatory to name a couple.
@orthodoxtheosis
@orthodoxtheosis 2 жыл бұрын
You left out the fact that that the Pope shut down the Greek churches in southern Italy and Sicily unless they used the Latin rite, which is why the Patriarch shut down all Latin churches in Constantinople as a response, it was an outrage to them. Plus it was decreed that only Ecumenical councils could alter the creed, which is why the Papacy changing the creed was an outrage.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it seemed existential to the players in the day. But now it seems sort of obscure. And yet these two faith traditions that follow Jesus Christ intimately are divided. Not sure that's what Christ wants. And why it exists today is beyond me. The wide variety of Catholics and the wonderful Orthodox people that I know seem very much the same. Is this now about two hierarchies retaining tradition? Perhaps Christianity writ large is stronger with two traditions. When one errs, the other can present a faithful meaningful critique. Competition for the improvement rather than complacency?
@orthodoxtheosis
@orthodoxtheosis 2 жыл бұрын
@@lawrenceralph7481 it's a lot more complicated now since we've established our own dogmas and traditions, like in the West they adopted Thomism while we adopted Palamism. On the surface it looks the same, but we have different soteriology, concepts of Mary, the Trinity, concepts of the afterlife, etc. I made this post because in the video he's trying to imply that the Schism is entirely the Orthodox's fault, when in reality that simply isn't true.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 2 жыл бұрын
@@orthodoxtheosis I wasn't trying to do that. The schism happened. My question is why it still exists when the reasons that I was aware of no longer seem relevant. It seems these obscure (but important?) differences pale when thinking of Christ's own command (suggestion/desire?) for church unity. Do the current schismatic differences between Orthodoxy or Western Catholicism do a substantially better job of aiding followers to a good life and salvation when so few can explain the points you presented? Do their well known similarities aid the faithful more? I do no know the answer. Today the division seems a more about the traditions of the men in the pointy caps than serving Christ and the salvation of the members. But truly you do know more about this than I do, so I defer with respect. The reasons must be sound and important, at a level beyond the ken of the faithful.
@orthodoxtheosis
@orthodoxtheosis 2 жыл бұрын
@@lawrenceralph7481 the original reasons are still there, the filioque and Papal Supremecy are still major obstacles to unity The problem with church unity is corruption of dogma and tradition, as many have their own idea of it. There's a right way to do it, we believe in the teachings of the early church fathers and 7 ecumenical councils, but the Catholic Church has the Pope determine tradition, so it changes on a whim. Your third question won't have a clear cut answer because you have to establish what a good life is and what salvation is. We have our own ideas, but you have to decide for yourself what that is, so it's kind of difficult to answer that question. Yes, we both believe in salvation and serving Christ, but how to do that is where the differences start. You'll have to be more specific to what you want to know, so go ahead ask me whatever you want.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 2 жыл бұрын
@@orthodoxtheosis I think you've answered my inquiry well. Thank you. We wish all of our brothers well.
@wwonlinea7110
@wwonlinea7110 Жыл бұрын
Speaking for myself - a non-native English speaker - it's a bit hard to understand all the specific names of the events and people, I would be so glad if you add subtitles to your already awesome videos! Thanks mate and stay awesome ;)
@filowanderer9734
@filowanderer9734 10 ай бұрын
He also mispronounced some of the important words/events.
@warningwarning8826
@warningwarning8826 7 ай бұрын
If you are not at liberty to say the name of Jesus around others then place your phone far enough away and go to an isolated place and say His name. Now read this carefully... "For by grace are ye saved through faith..." - Ephesians (Bible) (we need to figure out what having FAITH physiologically feels like) "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." - James (Bible) (If you humble yourself before God he is more likely to give you grace, which is unmerited favour: God can help people to have faith if they humble themselves before him: often praising Jesus takes humility: people with good emotional intelligence might be able to detect when they have more faith or less faith: but you must worship God in spirit and in truth i.e. with sincerity) "He that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." - Hebrews (believe that God will reward you - therefore God is good - this is why bitterness against God is dangerous when it comes to salvation) "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?" - Romans (Call on the name of Jesus in faith. It can take years to learn to pray in faith for salvation because of fear of not being saved: fear for salvation opposes faith for salvation). Praying for someone you sincerely care about can help deal with fear and may help to say the name of Jesus in faith. Read Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" or watch these summaries on KZfaq: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKqcmrp0mZ_NoXU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJ2lnZWi27fNj58.html Link to a video about the shroud of Turin - it changed my life kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grKedqyhmLW6nXk.html
@warningwarning8826
@warningwarning8826 7 ай бұрын
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations and then shall the end come." - Matthew Mobile phones are in every nation on earth so the gospel has probably reached every nation by now by the internet. Chances are that the end is soon, according to Jesus.
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 5 ай бұрын
The narrator is AI and therefore can't pronounce obscure words. Trust me, it's difficult to understand some of what terms the AI is saying - even as a native speaker.
@dboyagod
@dboyagod 4 ай бұрын
@@AndyWitmyerare you a native AI speaker?
@nicky5683
@nicky5683 2 жыл бұрын
I talked to a bi-ritual Catholic priest when I was in high school. The way he explained it to me was that the Roman's added it for a clarification, as in Latin it could be interpreted as denying the Trinity. Thinking that way, it's more about the how it was done, which ties into papal supremacy, than what was actually done. Sort of like the non-Chalcedon (i.e. Oriental) miaphysite/monophysite issue: professing the same thing, just in different words that fit the language used.
@josephzammit8483
@josephzammit8483 Жыл бұрын
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@ibrahimkosai5368
@ibrahimkosai5368 3 жыл бұрын
Pope: I excommunicate you Patriarch: No, u The Great Schism in a nutshell
@civilisatopedia
@civilisatopedia 3 жыл бұрын
👉 If you are interested in history & mysteries then my last video is for you ✨👌
@hemidas
@hemidas 3 жыл бұрын
Pope: "Wait a minute, you can't excommunicate me! You're excommunicated!" Patriarch: "Awww...wait a minute, I am the Patriarch! You can't excommunicate me, you're excommunicated!" Pope: "Awww...wait a minute, I am the Pope! You can't excommunicate me, you're excommunicated!" Patriarch: "Awww...wait a minute, I am the Patriarch! You can't excommunicate me, you're excommunicated!" Pope: "Awww...wait a minute, I am the Pope! You can't excommunicate me, you're excommunicated!" Patriarch: "Awww...wait a minute, I am the Patriarch! You can't excommunicate me, you're excommunicated!"
@joema5515
@joema5515 3 жыл бұрын
@@hemidas stealing from oversimplified how original
@DoctorDeath147
@DoctorDeath147 3 жыл бұрын
@@joema5515 boo hoo.
@therecusantluddite1133
@therecusantluddite1133 3 жыл бұрын
1 patriarch: i excommunicate you 4 patriarchs: no, we excommunicate you
@tsparc2
@tsparc2 3 жыл бұрын
That is the first time I have ever heard someone pronounce Nicea as Nikea... EDIT - I think the debate below sums up the schism quite well! You'd think we were arguing about whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father... or the Father and The Son.. ;-)
@GreenMarkoulis13
@GreenMarkoulis13 3 жыл бұрын
finally
@ozza4496
@ozza4496 3 жыл бұрын
yet he read Latin with Italian pronunciation
@MatthewBaxter2010
@MatthewBaxter2010 3 жыл бұрын
It frustrated me the whole time.
@troybingham6426
@troybingham6426 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewBaxter2010 Same here. Especially since he claims to be a student of history.
@troybingham6426
@troybingham6426 3 жыл бұрын
He's misused the phrase "begging the question" too.
@esotericbear9829
@esotericbear9829 6 ай бұрын
Man, you enunciate Nicene Creed so much differently than how I've ever heard it.
@esotericbear9829
@esotericbear9829 6 ай бұрын
I thought maybe it was a regional thing or something. Then I hear you say Byzantine and diocese completely wrong and it makes me wonder if you have only read these words and never actually heard them in conversation. Great video but some of these enunciations drive me crazy.
@annebishop9634
@annebishop9634 14 күн бұрын
It took me a minute or two to figure out that it was Nicene Creed, but I’m Baptist so…
@scarface4235
@scarface4235 2 жыл бұрын
the main thing i learned here is that the western didnt stay similarly to this day ( it made changes in the creed) but the eastern always stayed same
@user-rq3rd9iz2e
@user-rq3rd9iz2e 7 ай бұрын
Correct east always Christian west they became gentiles
@user_____M
@user_____M 3 жыл бұрын
This video misses the part where the pope crowns Charlemagne as "Roman Emperor", that was the true moment of the political/church schism.
@tonyv2373
@tonyv2373 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. The Byzantine myth really makes us forget that they really were the Romans.
@sewerynpresnal6545
@sewerynpresnal6545 3 жыл бұрын
@Vive L'Empereur As a Basileus, not as a Basileus of the Romans.
@raptor4840
@raptor4840 3 жыл бұрын
​@Vive L'Empereur I think the reason is because the bible states Rome is the last Great empire.
@georgesterpis5700
@georgesterpis5700 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what i'd like to mention. Nice job!
@user-nz1eu8cz1d
@user-nz1eu8cz1d 3 жыл бұрын
@Vive L'Empereur as king .Not as Emperor.
@michael7324
@michael7324 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a religious person but for some reason this part of history fascinates me. Thanks for the video.
@syedhasanalimahdi7390
@syedhasanalimahdi7390 2 жыл бұрын
Same here honestly. You should also look at why Islam got split up. Thats how I landed on this video
@xeither289
@xeither289 2 жыл бұрын
GOD IS REAL LOVE GOD AND EVERYONE☦❤🙏
@Andrew-rd9zq
@Andrew-rd9zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@xeither289 I BID THEE EXCOMMUNICATED!
@johnmeehan7884
@johnmeehan7884 2 жыл бұрын
@Wuxxy Because they like to hate, as they preach that religion is bad?
@manlikeJoe1010
@manlikeJoe1010 2 жыл бұрын
@@nwofoe2866 Bizarre, contradictory statement but ok...
@nisigate
@nisigate 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this piece on the schism in the church I’ve always wanted to learn about it
@ibnahmad4062
@ibnahmad4062 2 жыл бұрын
Watch "A Catholic sister asked Yusuf Estes-Why he accepted Islam- 2011" on KZfaq kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb-CicJ9zq6tiok.html
@JudithMatta
@JudithMatta 5 ай бұрын
Please see (we humbly suggest) our videos on the "Frankish Church" at "JUDITH IRENE MATTA" on KZfaq. This video is simply careless about history and blatantly ignorant . Big clue: the narrator has no clue as to HOW TO PRONOUNCE "NICENE" - THE "C" IS LIKE "S"! PLEASE ADJUST YOUR SILLY PRONUNCIATION. The Apostolic Canons (from Acts 15) are available in the book "The Rudder" (all councils' decisions). These were foundational...the 2nd Council of Nicea (380 ad) was a CONTINUATION of the First Nicene Council in 325 ad. It was NOT A NEW COUNCIL but was called to complete the Holy Creed and answer to ANOTHER heresy that refused to acknowledge that the Holy Spirit is a PERSON OF THE HOLY TRINITY. In the 2nd Council of Nicea in 380 ad THIS PHRASE "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT THE LORD AND GIVER OF LIFE..." COMPLETED THE CREDAL STATEMENT REQUIRED BY ALL WHO SHARED THE EUCHARIST AT DIVINE LITURGY. THIS FACTS ARE ONLY TWO OF THE MANY FALSEHOODS PASSED ALONG IN THIS VIDEO BY SLOPPY SCHOLARSHIP AND DEVIL-MAY-CARE ROMAN CATHOLIC "TEACHERS"! STUDY, LEARN, AND FOLLOW CHRIST'S CHURCH BEGUN AT PENTECOST AND CONTINUING TODAY AMONG THE NATIONS IN SYNODAL LEADERSHIP OF BISHOPS! (see KZfaq videos "JUDITH IRENE MATTA" and/or "Eastern Orthodox Christianity in America" for scholarship from a a ThM - Orthodox post graduate student of the Holy Orthodox Faith; based on St Irenaeus "Against Heresies", it is obvious (180 ad) at the time of St Irenaeus' writing the Orthodox Holy Faith was in full "bloom" in Rome and all of Europe, which puts the lie to any RC claims of being the "early church" etc.The teachings on the Eucharist alone prove this fact. God save us from these frauds....)
@rogersledz6793
@rogersledz6793 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 жыл бұрын
If only they learned from The Great Courses Plus
@philipmolina1114
@philipmolina1114 3 жыл бұрын
@supremeleader Ayo fam hook me up with a subscription
@jinxzzop7159
@jinxzzop7159 3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE EVERYWHERE
@garrettgarnett3120
@garrettgarnett3120 3 жыл бұрын
Kim!! How yoo bean?
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex 3 жыл бұрын
Help us get rid off lockdowns please, it will create famine. Oh wait... 👀
@k-studio8112
@k-studio8112 3 жыл бұрын
Supreme leader are you a Catholic or Orthodox?
@ericwilliams1659
@ericwilliams1659 3 жыл бұрын
Those that could grew cool beards and those that were jealous, this is why the split happened. Plain and simple.
@alexk5442
@alexk5442 3 жыл бұрын
Also Orthodox priests can get married 😉
@marinazagrai1623
@marinazagrai1623 3 жыл бұрын
Alex...and the Catholics have illegitimate children all over...the Decameron has a story about some nuns whom people were thinking are saintly and mostly celibate - they were all but celibate!
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 3 жыл бұрын
@Радован Кубурић I am not sure, as far as I know in Serbian Orthodox church priest must marry. But I think that in some other Orthodox churches you even have monks as priests but not as a rule, and I think that priest can be in celibate.
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
@user-nf9xc7ww7m 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexk5442 Mormon Classic: "Catholics say no wife for priests, orthodox says one...act now and you can have as many wives as you want."
@esoterra8050
@esoterra8050 3 жыл бұрын
Barba non facit philosophum.
@galidorn1
@galidorn1 Жыл бұрын
most of the time you'll only hear Ecclesiastical Catholic's version of the events (who always refer to themselves and the true church) its always been hard to find objective sources or Orthodox side sources. its nice to see an earnest attempt
@konstantinoschristou3701
@konstantinoschristou3701 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. May you be well.
@yuribrito1504
@yuribrito1504 3 жыл бұрын
The Great Schism of 1054, in my historical analysis, was one of the most catastrophic events for medieval Christianity (and for Christian history as a whole). Note: The Great Schism of 1054 was catastrophic not only within the religious aspect, but it was also catastrophic militarily and politically. In my historical analysis, the Schism was catastrophic due to three main factors (which are interconnected): • 1) The division of the Latin and Greek churches only reinforced the rivalry and disagreements between Constantinople and Rome. • 2) The Schism of 1054 directly led to the Latin invasion of Constantinople in 1204. Had it not been for the religious division between Latins and Greeks, Enrico Dandolo's Venice would never have sacked Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade (1202-1204). The 4th Crusade, in turn, led to the fall of Constantinople in 1453. • 3) The Fall of Constantinople itself. The Fall of Constantinople (Άλωσις της Κωνσταντινουπόλεως), undoubtedly, was a direct consequence of the 4th Crusade. Note (2): In my historical analysis, the destruction of the Byzantine Empire was completely "decreed" in 1204, not in 1453. The 4th Crusade simply destroyed all the efforts made during the so-called Komnenian Restoration (1081-1180), which was carried out by the emperors Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118), John II Komnenos (1118-1143) and Manuel I Komnenos (1143-1180). Moreover, the 4th Crusade further weakened the city that once represented the "pride of the Christians" ("Η υπερηφάνεια των Χριστιανών"), the "shield of Christianity" ("Η ασπίδα/ προστασία του Χριστιανισμού"), the "queen of the cities" ("Η βασίλισσα των πόλεων") and the "queen of the east" ("Η βασίλισσα της Ανατολής"): Constantinople! After the fall of Constantinople, therefore, all of Medieval Europe Christian world was threatened. The "shield" that Constantinople represented was "broken". The Schism of 1054, therefore, indirectly contributed for the expansion of the Ottoman Empire.
@Jeliovostvarno
@Jeliovostvarno 3 жыл бұрын
The wars between East and West were caused by geopolitical and economical reasons - Romans against Greece/Macedonians, Venice against cities on its way. Enrico Dandolo just used the opportunity to take Roman Catholic cities at Dalmatian coast and to weaken all competition at Mediterranean.
@Dafterthought
@Dafterthought 3 жыл бұрын
@@darwinism14 nope. Faith differences was only the facade in any conflict. The real reasons stay the same as always and mostly they are linked with greed for wealth and power.
@Andre-river
@Andre-river 2 жыл бұрын
Can you Imagine,living at the borders, Antemuralis Christianitates Greatings from Croatia 🇭🇷 From the 15 century dieing for surviving from the beast coming from the east, Ottomans,orthodonks as serbs,communists.5 centuries literally not leaving weapons from our hands.
@simapark
@simapark 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andre-river The Orthodox Serbs manned the military frontier against the Ottomans for 500 years keeping the Croatian Catholics safe well behind the front line . Then in 1912 the Serbs in the Ottoman Empire who had kept their Christan faith while under Muslim occupation liberated themselves with no help from the Western Christians . Then in 1918 the Serbs liberated the Croats from Austro-Hungarian occupation and instead of creating a Greater Serbia which the allies would have gladly given them they instead entered a union with their Slavic brothers. As soon as possible ie 1941 the Croats sided with the monster Hitler and exterminated the Serbs in their short lived puppet state . In 1995 they completed the job in the biggest ethnic cleansing operation of the wars of the 90s. The best Communists were the Croats and the monster and mass murderer Tito himself is best example of that.
@Frog_king11
@Frog_king11 2 жыл бұрын
One could say that the Ottoman Empire was used as a pawn to finish the job no?
@BocchiSensei
@BocchiSensei 3 жыл бұрын
Eu4 Catholism: *I have a good idea! Lets break down into more religions*
@raptor4840
@raptor4840 3 жыл бұрын
Same with IRL Catholicism and somehow it's still the biggest branch of christianity
@someonesilence3731
@someonesilence3731 3 жыл бұрын
@@raptor4840 That's because of Spain.
@charlesramirez587
@charlesramirez587 3 жыл бұрын
@@someonesilence3731 and Austria, France, Portugal, Italians, western Slavs and not to mention Bavarian Catholics that moved to the American midwest.
@someonesilence3731
@someonesilence3731 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesramirez587 Austria largely failed to protect the Catholic faith and mostly just managed to retain it withing their own country. France and Portugal have certaintly spread it quite a bit yes, though not as much as Spain. The Italians have done nothing at all to spread Catholicism, they have merely retained it within their own area. Same for Western Slavs. I don't know anything about Bavarian Catholics but there are indeed a fair amount of Catholics in America.
@charlesramirez587
@charlesramirez587 3 жыл бұрын
@@someonesilence3731 the great migration for the non-Imperial or rather non naval-imperial peoples to the new world. As well as against soviet and orthodox powers ruling over them.
@Fogaata
@Fogaata Жыл бұрын
I needed this! Thank you!
@codetwohigh
@codetwohigh Жыл бұрын
I’m Catholic but the more I learn about the Eastern Orthodox Church the more I’m thinking that they are the correct Church.
@Jonas-tn4tu
@Jonas-tn4tu Жыл бұрын
Go further into orthodoxy, it's an incredible truth filled Christianity
@pavelrazamazov2672
@pavelrazamazov2672 Жыл бұрын
You can’t be saved, if you reject the Catholic faith. Lumen Gentium, Vatican 2.
@elgenerico1315
@elgenerico1315 11 ай бұрын
@@pavelrazamazov2672 The Pope welcomes the LGBTQ Community into the Catholic Church, you call that the true church? The Orthodox Church is the true Catholic Church.
@elenanajdova3099
@elenanajdova3099 10 ай бұрын
@@pavelrazamazov2672 You can be saved only if you have Jesus for your saviour and be Born again. No religion and man made rules can save you 😊
@Procopius464
@Procopius464 10 ай бұрын
@@pavelrazamazov2672 Comments like that are why the Protestant Reformation happened. The Bible says how you are saved, not any human decrees or authorities.
@bretthagan2000
@bretthagan2000 2 жыл бұрын
Dude was STRUGGLING with these pronunciations 😂😂😂😂
@Fit.Fusion
@Fit.Fusion 3 жыл бұрын
You're excommunicated!" "Yeah? Well, you're excommunicated too!"
@orthodoxcrusader5413
@orthodoxcrusader5413 3 жыл бұрын
God said its my time to excommunicate
@imeprezime72
@imeprezime72 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMt-gcx708elqIk.html
@eraysredojevic
@eraysredojevic 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@hipstertrudy3658
@hipstertrudy3658 Жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken the Johannine comma debate between Protestants and Catholics also further consolidated the belief of Orthodox Patriarchs that the Western church was willing to change scripture and divinely inspired texts all Willy nilly. Which also reinforced their belief that it was the West who was responsible for breaking from the Nicean creed and allowing the pope to decide what was canon rather than the text itself or the early Wurms.
@montrelouisebohon-harris7023
@montrelouisebohon-harris7023 2 ай бұрын
I was raised a protestant, even though I have some Catholic family members and I’ve attended my ass and it’s beautiful. However, once I got in my 30s, I started studying deeply into the different religions, including all different, protestant churches, and Anglicanism, and the difference between Anglicans and Episcopalians, and the orthodox Christian religion was interesting, but I didn’t realize how it made me feel until I started watching this KZfaq video. This bishop is phenomenal and everything he said is something they come straight from the Bible and he says it every time I listen to him and he’s not gonna paint rose colored glasses, like catholic mass well with this beautiful ceremony, but he just simply tells it just like it is.. he’s is blunt as some of the Southern Baptist preachers from the 1970s, but he speaks directly from the Bible and the way he talks is very Eastern Orthodox. Bishop Mari. I’m not sure but I think he’s Christian orthodox because he crosses himself like an eastern orthodox Christian but somebody told me he is some kind of old a Syrian Christian or maybe Armenian
@user-so4kh5xu3z
@user-so4kh5xu3z 3 жыл бұрын
Because Pope wanted to be first of all bishops instead of primus inter paris and frankish kings wanted to be called roman kings. The arrogancy of both was mutually fullfilled.
@sebastiannikkolas8497
@sebastiannikkolas8497 3 жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@elvisa.c140
@elvisa.c140 3 жыл бұрын
He's greek. Judging by the name
@user-so4kh5xu3z
@user-so4kh5xu3z 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiannikkolas8497 Ι am greek-speaking roman. From Greece.
@user-so4kh5xu3z
@user-so4kh5xu3z 3 жыл бұрын
@@elvisa.c140 The schism is very painful. Latins have put bishops in the 4 patriarchates. But orthodox never put anyone as bishop of Rome. Why? Because we wait his return.
@danshakuimo
@danshakuimo 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-so4kh5xu3z Well you might want to fix Wikipedia since it lists the Roman Catholics as not putting anyone as bishop of Constantinople. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentarchy
@joecaves6235
@joecaves6235 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the council of Ikea everything was brought together by inserting tab A into slot B.
@adamwarlock1
@adamwarlock1 2 жыл бұрын
No! You're reading the instructions wrong!
@Escapee5931
@Escapee5931 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamwarlock1 adamwarlock1 explains 1000 years of history. Maybe someday they'll realise they've got the instructions upside down. 👍
@santiransantiran3469
@santiransantiran3469 Жыл бұрын
hi
@DavidCastro-ln6ty
@DavidCastro-ln6ty Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU STILL LEARNING 💓
@DaveTheTurd
@DaveTheTurd Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Thank you.
@kostas3577
@kostas3577 3 жыл бұрын
Me about to go to sleep Knowlegia:why did the schism happened Me: I need no sleep I need answers
@user-jh5ur5ft1w
@user-jh5ur5ft1w 3 жыл бұрын
Its 1:40 in the morning and I have school tomorrow but I also need answers.
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, just know that you were correct lol
@icommitedwarcrimes4879
@icommitedwarcrimes4879 2 жыл бұрын
me rn lmao
@bohemianwriter1
@bohemianwriter1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not alone.. Not just this channel, but all kinds of answers from all kinds of sources..
@guhad0108
@guhad0108 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is the truth we Somalia accepted Islam with no fighting but Christianity was forced on us
@tamazghaunion9158
@tamazghaunion9158 3 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta until Arianism start speaking german
@drswag0076
@drswag0076 3 жыл бұрын
that's the reformation and Protestantism.
@drswag0076
@drswag0076 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric The Christian and what is Judaism in your mind?
@bari4007
@bari4007 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric The Christian Bruh Sam Shamoun would destroy you prots. All non trinitarian prots are heretics
@stranger0152
@stranger0152 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric The Christian In Islam god is not like any being. So Islam cannot be a pagan religion. In Pagan religions gods are represented as some living beings we see in our world. In Islam God is one and it is not like anything. If you have realized, I used it for represent god. God is not he. God is not lord. In Islam God is just one. Unlike Christianity, Islam is not pagan.
@stranger0152
@stranger0152 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric The Christian Excuse me but fuck christ. A god who has son cannot be god. God cannot be human like. If it is human like can we be a God ?
@aleashaabbas3157
@aleashaabbas3157 Жыл бұрын
Bless Ratzinger and his work! 🧘‍♀️🙏🎯👁
@Ahrimanh86
@Ahrimanh86 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! I'm wondering how I'm subbed to Invicta, kings & generals etc but I've just now seen your channel?
@faanengaaw7357
@faanengaaw7357 3 жыл бұрын
Protestants: you call that a divide? Hold my wine & Watch this..... (broke down into hundreds of churches)
@matiastolmo8936
@matiastolmo8936 3 жыл бұрын
Hundred of congregations**
@19kiikii
@19kiikii 3 жыл бұрын
*evangelicals enter the room*
@tracyMcC
@tracyMcC 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why we have trouble understanding other religions. We can't keep up with the many divisions of protestantism. Brain overload.
@faanengaaw7357
@faanengaaw7357 3 жыл бұрын
Tracy M the Catholic church & Eastern Orthodox churches are aware of the other religions. They actually study them. Its the other Christian denominations that dont pay any attention to the other religions of the world.
@tracyMcC
@tracyMcC 3 жыл бұрын
@@faanengaaw7357 That's what I meant.
@Rogerrramjet1
@Rogerrramjet1 3 жыл бұрын
When the Ottomans were about to conquer Istanbul, the Byzantine Empire was in a poor state. The Europeans said they would help only if Byzantines converted to Catholicism. But the Byzantine Empire was the head of Orthodoxy, so could not obey the Pope. Immense hostility existed between the two branches of Christianity for various historical reasons. Even so, on 12 December 1452, a ceremony was directed by Cardinal Isidore, sent by the Pope. Byzantine leader, the Great Duke Notaras, interpreted his people's feelings with this famous saying: " I would rather see the Turk's turbans in Byzantium than Latin's hats. "
@a1rlucks46
@a1rlucks46 3 жыл бұрын
Greeks : Its Constatinople >:(
@zai293
@zai293 3 жыл бұрын
@Nazbol Jedi lol, accept the fact that it is now istanbul
@yossarian7617
@yossarian7617 3 жыл бұрын
@Santiago Suárez And now turks preserve Orthodox Churches but burn Catholic churches to the ground. Islam derives from Orthodoxy and Orthodox holy relics and places are Islamic holy relics and places.
@emrealn3786
@emrealn3786 3 жыл бұрын
except... byzantine and it's ruler obeyed pope in the end and converted. Last byzantine ruler died a catholic.
@zuzudernegger9721
@zuzudernegger9721 3 жыл бұрын
The Greek Orthodox church served the Ottomans very well and basically helped the Ottomans rule the Rayah and contributed greatly to the Islamisation and loss of Christian lands.
@XE1GXG
@XE1GXG Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Always fascinating to learn about different facets of Abrahamic philosophies/religions.
@DavidWesley
@DavidWesley 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but that’s a boatload of ads for a 12-minute video!😭
@jovanmalic9259
@jovanmalic9259 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using KZfaq Vanced. No ads for me. And it's all for free.
@sandramitic8948
@sandramitic8948 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovanmalic9259 kakoooo?
@jovanmalic9259
@jovanmalic9259 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandramitic8948 Sve ti je besplatno, a nema reklama. Čak možeš slušati nešto preko KZfaq Vanced-a ili YT Vanced Music-a i kada izađeš iz aplikacije ili ugasiš ekran.
@sandramitic8948
@sandramitic8948 2 жыл бұрын
@@jovanmalic9259 nema neka caka iza coska neka losa strana?0
@D4NOMAUS
@D4NOMAUS 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq premium is a god send in these situations
@matthewsheythe2733
@matthewsheythe2733 3 жыл бұрын
This is true. The narrator said "Jesus would like..." Ad break....Google home invasion device or whatever they call it.
@dr.skillz77mgpl92
@dr.skillz77mgpl92 Жыл бұрын
Hi great video, but please add subtitles to your videos. It makes it easier for me to understand a few specific terms as a non-native English speaker.
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 5 ай бұрын
They need it for native speakers as well, since the AI butchers the pronunciation of what it sees as obscure words.
@ruatsangawhite7261
@ruatsangawhite7261 Жыл бұрын
ok that mutual excommunication gave me a good laugh😂
@Sean__F
@Sean__F 2 жыл бұрын
Nicean creed and the city of Nicea is pronounced with a soft ‘c’, ni-see-uh and ni-see-an.
@johnmknox
@johnmknox 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but that is a hard capital C not a soft c which sounds more like the c in car.
@infotruther
@infotruther 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see ya? Lol
@gregoryczumak5330
@gregoryczumak5330 2 жыл бұрын
He's actually mispronouncing multiple words... "Pas-ka", "fil-ee-OH-kwe", etc. It's tough with non-phonetic English spellings!
@denizalgazi
@denizalgazi 2 жыл бұрын
#facepalm #cringe
@lawsonj39
@lawsonj39 2 жыл бұрын
In English we pronounce them with a soft c, but there was no such thing in Greek, only k and s. I'm guessing that Nicea was named after the Greek god of victory, Nike.
@StraightWhiteGuy33
@StraightWhiteGuy33 3 жыл бұрын
I was curious if he was actually pronouncing Nicea with the “s” sound intentionally since a lot of Hellenic words (Macedonia) are actually more correctly pronounced with the “k” sound
@nbwall56
@nbwall56 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I wondered the same thing. I've never heard it pronounced the way he does.
@Blalack77
@Blalack77 3 жыл бұрын
He did use the K sound didn't he? At least at 6:58.
@EvilSmonker
@EvilSmonker 3 жыл бұрын
@@nbwall56 You have never heard someone pronounce something the way its spelled?
@didonegiuliano3547
@didonegiuliano3547 3 жыл бұрын
In Italian and Ecclesisatical Latin is Nicea with the “ch” sound (“Nichea”)
@mir3877
@mir3877 3 жыл бұрын
I've also heard it with the S. Not like this.
@mikel3359
@mikel3359 3 ай бұрын
Nikaia (Nicea) Greek word/name pronounced "Ni ke a" , derivative of Greek word/name NIKH (NIKE in english) which means "Victory", the Ancient Greek Godess of Nike.
@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy Жыл бұрын
1:54 190 Pope Victor I seeks to excommunicate 2:34 1st Council of Nicea. The Nicean Creed is established by The Church. 3:28 The Filioque Clause added by The Roman Catholic Church. 5:42 The 1st Council of Nicea 325 AD 6:03 The Council of Constantinople in 381 AD 6:35 The Council of Ethesus in 431 AD 8:05 Leavened Orthodox Bread vs Unleavened Roman Catholic Bread. 8:27 Orthodox Married Priests vs Roman Catholic Celibate Unmarried Priests. 9:10 The Orthodox Apostolic Succession vs Roman Catholic Papal King. 10:14 The Great Schism.
@olsdbhg5953
@olsdbhg5953 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, it must be emphasized that all the texts of the New Testament were first written in Greek. Therefore, it is logical for the Greeks to fully understand the meaning of the scriptures without any traslation. In the scriptures, and specifically in Greek, it writes "I also tell you this; that you are Peter and on this stone of your confession I will build my Church unscathed". Meaning, Christ is not going to build his church on Peter, but on Peter's confession that Jesus is the Son of God. Also, the Apostles were equal apostles among themselves. No one was superior to the other. Also Pope John VIII also participated in the 8th Ecumenical Council. It was there that filioque was convicted for the first time. Obviously the Papal Church thinks that dogma is food and you can add salt whenever you feel it is tasteless.
@marlontorres2752
@marlontorres2752 Жыл бұрын
Pride ddnt change😳😳
@NuncNuncNuncNunc
@NuncNuncNuncNunc Жыл бұрын
That's not entirely true. There likely lost Aramaic sources for the gospels. Most modern translations have origins in Greek sources, but that is not the same as saying all original sources were Greek.
@skylinelover9276
@skylinelover9276 5 ай бұрын
​@@NuncNuncNuncNuncat least is more on the east side is the one who understands because the bible is wrote in Greek and mixed middle east language..... than the latin speaking people
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 4 ай бұрын
So baiscly it's pointless banter made by humans because they disagreed on some things we don't fully know to be true anyway as bible was written hundreds years later and passed on.
@byzantinetales
@byzantinetales 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. My graphic novel is a bit before the years of the split. I hope I could have shown in more detail Phokas’ interactions with Liutprand. They were the best representation of the enmity between the western and eastern culture!
@danielsanford4109
@danielsanford4109 2 жыл бұрын
@Byantine Tales 1st Corinthians 15:24- reads, 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.e 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet.f 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.g 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.”h But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’i it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him.j 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him,k that God may be all things to everyone.l There was never, originally, any concept of a trinitarian godhead until The Council of Nicaea. Constantine invented this trinity from the Babylonians to cement his empire of "Christians" and pagans. Since then, Protestant Christianity, by 1500 years of tradition, has enslaved its members to believe the unbelievable.
@sheikhfadhilaljahdhamy6751
@sheikhfadhilaljahdhamy6751 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@stefanslutsky3811
@stefanslutsky3811 Жыл бұрын
An interesting addition to the topic and the prospect of unification of Eastern and Western Christian Churches would be the experience and existence of Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.
@DreAmeoba1
@DreAmeoba1 3 жыл бұрын
Mispronunciations aside, I was possibly misinformed by a story involving a opportunistic Norman conqueror, (named Robert “the weasel” Guiscard), kidnapping the pope after the Byzantines assured military protection from the Normans, the pope awarded part of southern Italian kingdom to his kidnapper, enraging the eastern church...I was told this event, was the worst of the various rifts, & tensions between them, leading to the breakup....
@tripleh327
@tripleh327 Жыл бұрын
that is not enitrely true that is only the colorful story, the real story behind it was that the pope actually wanted a divided italian pensinsula fragmented and not united under a central power because it was much easier to exploit it and for the pope to survive as a temporal ruler for 1500 years the popes tried with all thier effort to undermine and prevent any kind of complete pensinsular power slowing down the process of national unification and creation of national powers that in other states was already complete in 1500-1600 while in italy would come to an end only during the late industrial revolution period and near the beginning of the last century when the normans invaded southern italy the pope recognized their conquest and by that act created the kingdom of sicily, a kingdom that with many denomination(neaples, 2 sicilies) and rulers (germans emperors, aragonian french and spanish kings, ausburgs emperors), will only come to an end in 1860 during italy unifications wars that is also true from a territorial gain perspective because with the catholics normans kings the enitre sothern italy would become a latin territory reducing greek and orthodox influence in the peninsula
@28Decimo
@28Decimo 11 ай бұрын
@@tripleh327 part of that is due to the fact orthodox in the East ended up under the control of the emperor. It resulted in certain changes and policies by the emperor that influenced the faith. See Caesaripapism.
@user-rq3rd9iz2e
@user-rq3rd9iz2e 7 ай бұрын
​@@28Decimocorrect east roman empire devil 😂
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
Which brand would you like? Roman Catholic: Mine's better! Eastern Orthodox: Mine's better!
@asianlifter
@asianlifter 3 жыл бұрын
wassup
@NaveenKumar-ip6ff
@NaveenKumar-ip6ff 3 жыл бұрын
No thank you, I would like to continue my customership of Hinduism
@vincenzorutigliano5435
@vincenzorutigliano5435 3 жыл бұрын
@derren rafafarendio Protestantism is a Joke
@asianlifter
@asianlifter 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincenzorutigliano5435 Catholic and Orthodox Gang
@vincenzorutigliano5435
@vincenzorutigliano5435 3 жыл бұрын
@@asianlifter May God bring us back together one day.
@alexishomstad
@alexishomstad 2 ай бұрын
It would be helpful if there was a Playlist for history in chronicle order
@goalsdraw8897
@goalsdraw8897 10 ай бұрын
The great schism was not just a micro religious difference conflict , it was the long culutural battle ongoing between the latins of the west and the greeks of the east . Between a big number of different people whose ties go back to the battles between the ancient romans and the ancient greeks . This was going to happend sooner or later when two hugely influential civilizations , no matter how similar they are , never really accepeted to back off and submit to each other .
@danefrakwagman8659
@danefrakwagman8659 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I had never heard of this until about an hour ago and I searched KZfaq and stumbled upon this video right after it was uploaded! Nice
@howardkerr8174
@howardkerr8174 2 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic this is something that I often think about, that is, how any part of The Bible is translated over the years. Adding in changes made by various Popes over the years further clouds the meaning as originally inspired. Small(?) bit of trivia: the Hagia Sophia started out as a Christian church but was subsequently " converted " by Muslims into a mosque. It was eventually re-purposed as a national treasure and a museum of sorts. The current ruler in Turkey has subsequently brought it back into use as a mosque.
@pryorbishop2957
@pryorbishop2957 2 жыл бұрын
@Greg Moore I believe the older the version the more correct it is.
@almy75
@almy75 2 жыл бұрын
@Greg Moore ....and despicable followers!
@ungas024
@ungas024 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the absurd stories are more likely a fake story and thrown into the dust bin, there's a full documentary of the canonization and one of the criteria is it should be of apostolic origin this is followed by a chain of letter from early church fathers.
@openigang
@openigang 2 жыл бұрын
@Greg Moore and back then if a Jewish court would convict to death more than one person every 70 years that court would be known as a bloody court. If the people are happy they will happily follow the laws they agree to; apparently that is true because there are still Jews to this very day 3500 years later keeping the very same law all over the world. 😂 Get your christian bigotry tf outta here.
@DNSMLT
@DNSMLT 2 жыл бұрын
@Greg Moore You forgot the part where the Catholic church was infiltrated by evil doers. Also depends on which country and diocese!
@BS-np8xt
@BS-np8xt Жыл бұрын
Much love to our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters who, while misguided, remain close to us in many respects and give due honor to our Holy Traditions. God bless ☦️
@Rendasd
@Rendasd 8 ай бұрын
Deum benedict traditionem! ✟ Respect 🙏
@MKHLX
@MKHLX 5 ай бұрын
How we are misguided if its the Church founded by Jesus since 33 AD. God bless you brother
@BS-np8xt
@BS-np8xt 5 ай бұрын
@@MKHLX Because the Roman church schismed from the Orthodox Catholic Church in the 11th Century, owing to heretical views which festered at that time and still persist today. Actually, the Roman church is worse today than it was then, and I know many, many from among your ranks would agree with that statement, too. You are no longer part of the unbroken, unchanged Church founded by Christ in 33AD. The Gates of Hell have not prevailed against the Orthodox Church (our traditions are the same as they were in 33AD), but all others have fallen in some form or another.
@SimonSlPl
@SimonSlPl 4 ай бұрын
​@@MKHLX the orthodox church was founded in 33 ad. The roman catholic chuch was founded in 1054.
@MKHLX
@MKHLX 4 ай бұрын
@@SimonSlPl its the otherway around brother
@KrolKaz
@KrolKaz Жыл бұрын
"Schism" is such a great word
@talisikid1618
@talisikid1618 2 жыл бұрын
The whole problem was the elites in Rome were panicked by the collapse of Rome the city & were grasping at whatever straws they could find to recover lost glory. Unfortunately, that included The Church. Under no circumstance was the bishop in Rome above any other. It was all politics & money.
@johannesnacpil7342
@johannesnacpil7342 2 жыл бұрын
Actually , he is. Jesus gave him the Keys to the Kingdom. The Kingdom of the House of David had a royal steward who had keys to the kingdom, his authority was second to the King if he was not in the kingdom. Much like a Prime minister is given authority to govern the Monarch's subjects. The problem I think is with God modelling the Church like the old Davidic kingdom and not like a democracy.
@mlwtennessee322
@mlwtennessee322 2 ай бұрын
And it's still about politics and money.
@garyb2392
@garyb2392 2 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting and informative ! TY
@SecretsOfScripture
@SecretsOfScripture 4 ай бұрын
Your story is a testament to the transformative power of faith. Through the grace of Jesus, you've risen above challenges to find a home, a wife, a daughter, and the beautiful identity of a child of God. Hallelujah for the remarkable journey towards a life filled with love and purpose! 🏡💖🌈
@roncornelius8339
@roncornelius8339 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Information!! Thank You 😊. Thank You 😊
@jC-rv5rr
@jC-rv5rr 2 жыл бұрын
These courses are amazing. I'm a member!
@tropkino1806
@tropkino1806 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, keep up the good work!
@CyprusHot
@CyprusHot Жыл бұрын
7:30 IMPORTANT: The First Council of Constantinople was a council of Christian bishops convened in Constantinople in AD 381 by the Roman Emperor Theodosius I. This second ecumenical council, an effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom, except for the Western Church, confirmed the Nicene Creed, expanding the doctrine thereof to produce the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, and dealt with sundry other matters. It met from May to July 381 in the Church of Hagia Irene and WAS AFFIRMED as ecumenical in 451 at the Council of Chalcedon.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
Good catch
@omercanasik6
@omercanasik6 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 in Turkish Nisan means “April”
@danshakuimo
@danshakuimo 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video Nestorius and the schism with the Church of the East in 431 as well as the schism with the Oriental Orthodox in 451
@vicordecastro2851
@vicordecastro2851 2 жыл бұрын
So who created God, before the Jews did, that is . . . ?!?
@thomasburke9060
@thomasburke9060 2 жыл бұрын
The latter was a similarly drawn out affair. It really started in 449 (there were antecedent events earlier which set the stage) with the second council of Ephesus and the deposing and exile of the Patriarch of Constantinople, and wasn't really complete until the final division of the patriarchates in 536.
@treefiddy5092
@treefiddy5092 2 жыл бұрын
The early celtic Church in Wales can be seen as Orthodox as it said that St David was made Bishop and Arch Bishop of Wales by the Paitriarc of Jerusalem as was St. Dieniol of Bangor made Bishop by the Paitriarc and other Welsh Bishop's and not the Pope of Rome and did not come under the authority of Rome until 1054 at the time of the Great Schism but others say that it was after the fall of Jerusalem to the Moore's
@NuncNuncNuncNunc
@NuncNuncNuncNunc Жыл бұрын
Okay, had to give up after filioque. I can't tell how accurate any information in the video is, but I'm getting a sense of how knowledgeable the reader is about the subject matter. Feels like it was put together by a history loving gamer reading a script rather than a historian of any stripe. I guess nothing matters as long as you sound convincing.
@loopz_attack1658
@loopz_attack1658 Ай бұрын
99% of comments complaining about the pronunciation of Nicaea
@doloressverko9887
@doloressverko9887 2 жыл бұрын
So much is missed. For example, the fact that the Balkan tribes insisted on using local language so they could understand the liturgy during mass. This was supported by Methodius and St. Grgur (Gregory) of Nin. You can see his 9.5 meter statue in Split. Made by sculptor Mestrovic, who has sculptures in parks of Ohio, and built Atlas statue that sits in front of the United Nations in New York City.
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 5 ай бұрын
The AI is just reading some cut and pastes from Wikipedia.
@bobbykiriakidis9753
@bobbykiriakidis9753 4 ай бұрын
Who cares???? That is irrelevant in this context. You’re talking about something that happened after schisms. The conversions of the godless Slavic people
@Rogerrramjet1
@Rogerrramjet1 3 жыл бұрын
Latin Empire(Catholics), 1204-1261. The Latin conquest of Constantinople was a disaster for both the Greeks and ultimately, for the Western Europeans. The former unified territory of the empire was fragmented into several competing states, some ruled by Byzantine princes, other by Latin feudal lords. Warfare among these small competing states became constant- the only beneficiaries were the Muslim Turks in Anatolia, who used the feuding of the Christians to extend their domain to the shores of the Aegean Sea. It again appeared that the empire was on the verge of extinction. However, a military savior arose to rally the last vestiges of Byzantine power. Michael Palaeologus (1259-1282), the emperor in exile at Nicaea, managed to reconquer Constantinople from Latins in 1261, establishing the last Byzantine imperial dynasty.
@FrostFang86
@FrostFang86 2 жыл бұрын
That part always bothered me; The Catholics claimed they were going to support or liberate Constantinople but in reality, all they did was rape and pillage in the name of God. From what I remember from books, when they came into Constantinople, they put a prostitute on the throne of the king, as the ultimate show of audacity and wickedness.
@anoopgeorge4597
@anoopgeorge4597 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting history. Amazed by how human mind is complicated in itself that it creates and defines the god in all the crazy ways through these religions.
@KG-du2le
@KG-du2le Жыл бұрын
Love the history and info. Just letting you know, the council and creed 'Nicea' isn't with a K sound (nike-ah) but more like nye-sea-ah. Love the content tho.
@comradeedwin1006
@comradeedwin1006 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Keep the great work up!
@santiransantiran3469
@santiransantiran3469 Жыл бұрын
hi
@k9er596
@k9er596 3 жыл бұрын
Both the Pope and Patriarch of Constantinople said reunification is inevitable. Many think it may happen within the century .
@joeblow5178
@joeblow5178 3 жыл бұрын
I do not think so. The two church's are so far apart on major area's. The Russian government has given the Orthodox church a central role in the family and holding families together. The Catholic church has lost family values. (I think they even support abortion)
@k9er596
@k9er596 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeblow5178 I never said Russia, the Patriarch of Constantinople said unification is a current goal and is working with the Pope. Moscow and Constantinople have strained relations and they have current schism among themselves. Moscow and Constantinople aren't in communion with each other.
@Joleyn-Joy
@Joleyn-Joy 3 жыл бұрын
It's inevitable in the sense that the one true church will always prevail. I don't think it means that a real unification will happen soon.
@turkcukayi
@turkcukayi 3 жыл бұрын
Recently the US foreign minister visited the patriarch. I wonder what they talked about
@user-oje7zk4ec81
@user-oje7zk4ec81 3 жыл бұрын
Only if God is on top and not mortal Pope.
@Ferdrew-rp5ey
@Ferdrew-rp5ey Жыл бұрын
Most excellent !! 😊👏👏💯 I love the excellency of Divine Liturgies vs Roman-Catholic simple Masses ! ☝️
@LCTesla
@LCTesla 2 жыл бұрын
West: we'll just add these two words, I'm sure nothing else will change East: sweating profusely
@BronzeManul
@BronzeManul 3 жыл бұрын
Text bubble at 10:00 should say 'Lets not ally with Rome.'; regardless, a great video.
@lawrenceralph7481
@lawrenceralph7481 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The theological reasons for the schism seem obscure and archaic today. But one leader not wanting to bend the knee is timeless.
@dimatrue
@dimatrue 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the Pope not wanting to listen to his peers in the East? For Constantinople patriarch was just one of several Eastern leaders, who were united on the question with him. So it was one Pope (basically just one of the apostolic origin bishops), against other bishops of apostolic origin - Patriarchs.
@TomCruz54321
@TomCruz54321 Жыл бұрын
This is like Game of Thrones: Church Edition!
@adrianlima2776
@adrianlima2776 5 ай бұрын
no it was the bishops of the west PLUS the Pope which is the ultimate authority, against the bishops of the east @@dimatrue
@dimatrue
@dimatrue 5 ай бұрын
@@adrianlima2776 So? Other bishops that were installed not by apostles but by the Pope or his authority. I am talking about bishops with direct Apostlolic origins. Those who we today call Patriarchs, Popes, etc. The Pope wanted to usurp the ultimate authority on what was right or wrong. Eastern churches said that only an ecumenical assembly could have such final and definitive authority. The Pope decided to go his own way, using the fact that by the time the West grew stronger while the East got weaker, being constantly under pressure from the “global south” of those times. As usual, the betrayal was, is, and will ultimately get punished. Don’t cry now about Arabs and Turks on European streets. Remember when Eastern Rome asked for help and the West ransacked, burned and destroyed Constantinople. The riches they got, hard to imagine. But, the winter came for House Fray. The winter is coming for the West. Fasten your seat belts.
@Drakemiser
@Drakemiser 2 жыл бұрын
Little point: Nicea is generally pronounced with an _s_ sound for the _c_ .
@willneverend777
@willneverend777 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video of the history of the Roman Catholic Church and how it started.
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you essentially blamed the Eastern Orthodox Church for the great schism. Didn't mention the coronation of Charlemagne either, interesting choice.
@mariorizkallah5383
@mariorizkallah5383 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOO
@thomasburke9060
@thomasburke9060 2 жыл бұрын
How did he?
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution 2 жыл бұрын
@@Joseph-hu8ft Because the Church rose out of the Roman Empire, and it was explicitly tied into the State. The office of Pontifex Maximus (Pope) predates Christianity by around 500 years. The High Bishop of Rome was only one of the five churches elevated in the Bible. When the Western* Roman Empire collapsed the Church of Rome was left in the hands of Barbarians, and Pope Leo coronated Charlemagne as the Holy Roman Emperor, despite the fact that a legitimate Roman Emperor was still ruling the Roman Empire from Constantinople. The situation was made worse when the West sacked Constantinople during the Third Crusade. Basically all the major fuck ups and breakdowns in relations came from the incompetence and poor decision making from the East. *Edit
@dewd9327
@dewd9327 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchtherevolution the western Roman Empire collapsed first not the east, plus the office of Pontifex Maximus was still taken by the emperor in the early church, the Emperor was considered the head of the church and in the eastern Roman Empire he was the head of the church until the end of the empire
@mitchtherevolution
@mitchtherevolution Жыл бұрын
@@dewd9327 I actually don't know why I said Eastern Roman Empire instead of Western. The first Augustus to decline Pontifex Maximus was in 381 shortly after the Empire was officially Christianized, my main point on that was to show how deeply connected Christianity was to the Roman Empire and Roman Government. I would still contend that Western decisions by the Bishops of Rome (Pope) bear the most responsibility for the great schizm though.
@firedragon7654
@firedragon7654 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand why people get upset by language and how it’s interpreted. Just the way the narrator pronounces the word nicene is infuriating.
@janemack2667
@janemack2667 2 жыл бұрын
It also makes me distrust this video. Doesn't know something this basic.
@andyigwe7119
@andyigwe7119 2 жыл бұрын
I almost screamed everytime he mispronounced it. This should be Christianity 101 for everyone 🤦🏿‍♂️
@priceprice_baby
@priceprice_baby 2 жыл бұрын
For those playing at home who also don't know, it's like "Nice Ian"
@Croissant69_
@Croissant69_ 2 жыл бұрын
Literally thought I was the wrong one lol. My Nun teacher taught us that it’s pronounced as “Nayseian”
@robertgray9802
@robertgray9802 2 жыл бұрын
Language issues in a nutshell and changes on both sides glad u mentioned that
@williaml872
@williaml872 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video. What’s the piece in the background?
@EvilSmonker
@EvilSmonker 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done video, very rarely is any non-biased content reguarding the schism found (in my experience). While the bar is set pretty low generaly, I would say that you went above and beyond with this high quality video.
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 5 ай бұрын
Lol. It's just an AI narrator reading cut and pastes from Wikipedia. Aside from the visual production, this is a very, VERY low effort video.
@facebooksucks1912
@facebooksucks1912 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very informative. Thank you.
@user-jg3fz9jd4y
@user-jg3fz9jd4y 18 күн бұрын
On the map visual, what does the strange Gray spot on Wales representat?
@lisafraley8380
@lisafraley8380 Ай бұрын
That’s the first time I heard it “Nickaya” and not “Nice-ee-ah”so I looked it up. “Nice ee ah” “Nice ee an” creed. Also, Filioque “fee-lee-o-quay.”
@AndyWitmyer
@AndyWitmyer 19 күн бұрын
It's AI narration. It can't read your feedback
@Christopher_TG
@Christopher_TG 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of surprised that you didn't make even one mention of the translatio imperii controversy.
@someguysomeone3543
@someguysomeone3543 3 жыл бұрын
What is that?
@Christopher_TG
@Christopher_TG 3 жыл бұрын
@@someguysomeone3543 In 800 AD, Irene of Athens ascended to the throne of the Roman Empire. The Pope decided to use that as an opportunity to increase his power and kneecap the eastern church. So he declared that a woman could not be the Emperor and thus the title was vacant. He then also declared that he as head of the church had the right to crown whomever he wished as Emperor, a legal concept he called translatio imperii. He then crowned Charles, King of the Franks, as Roman Emperor. This crowning of Charles as Emperor would eventually culminate in the creation of the Holy Roman Empire, which then claimed to be the true successor to Rome despite the fact that the Roman Empire was still alive and well out in the east. This decision by the Pope meant that the east-west split was no longer just a theological and ecclesiastic divide, but it was now a political divide as well.
@TheMurad84
@TheMurad84 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Muslim and and I always was asking why those differences between arthodox and katholiek so thanks for this video and too bad there is no subtitles cus I can't understand everything u said
@mnzdeep4258
@mnzdeep4258 Жыл бұрын
The Great Schism came about due to a complex mix of religious disagreements and political conflicts. One of the many religious disagreements between the western (Roman) and eastern (Byzantine) branches of the church had to do with whether or not it was acceptable to use unleavened bread for the sacrament of communion. (The west supported the practice, while the east did not.) Other objects of religious dispute include the exact wording of the Nicene Creed and the Western belief that clerics should remain celibate. These religious disagreements were made worse by a variety of political conflicts, particularly regarding the power of Rome. Rome believed that the pope-the religious leader of the western church-should have authority over the patriarch-the religious authority of the eastern church. Constantinople disagreed. Each church recognized their own leaders, and when the western church eventually excommunicated Michael Cerularius and the entire eastern church. The eastern church retaliated by excommunicating the Roman pope Leo III and the Roman church with him. While the two churches have never reunited, over a thousand years after their split, the western and eastern branches of Christianity came to more peaceable terms. In 1965, Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras I lifted the longstanding mutual excommunication decrees made by their respective churches. Today, the two branches of Christianity remain distinct expressions of a similar faith. Roman Catholicism is the single largest Christian denomination, with more than a billion followers around the world. Eastern Orthodoxy is the second-largest Christian denomination, with more than 260 million followers. Eastern Orthodoxy includes national churches, such as the Greek Orthodox Church and Russian Orthodox Church.
@panosant3960
@panosant3960 Жыл бұрын
Catholic's heretics NATO Nazis. Genocides Rape Political chrchy. Orthodox = son of God Jesus. Criste
@histruth3157
@histruth3157 Жыл бұрын
in Islam, I was wondering why Mohammad called black Ethiopians raisin heads? Also, why Mohammad was killed by a Jewish slave that he had by poisoning? allah is not allah it is AL' AH the god.
@onefistchild1652
@onefistchild1652 11 ай бұрын
​@@histruth3157 bro what the heck this never happened please check your sources
@Randombloke00
@Randombloke00 10 ай бұрын
​@@histruth3157 he didn't call Ethiopians raisin heads the Ethiopian king became a Muslim how would he insult his biggest allys people he was killed by a jew from poisoning because he had already finished his job with the conquering of makkah infact he was poisoned 2 years before that and its believed that God made his death later so he could conquer makkah then die
@flawyerlawyertv7454
@flawyerlawyertv7454 3 ай бұрын
Useful, thanks. 👍
@lGalaxisl
@lGalaxisl Жыл бұрын
1:54 it's already an anachronism to talk about "Pope Victor I" as this reinforces the idea that the ecclesiastical model of the Roman Catholic Church was already in force back then. There was no papacy in the 2nd century. The term "pope" comes from pappas in greek, meaning father. It was used for the first time in the third century to refer to the patriarch of Alexandria, and was commonly used to refer to any bishop, not just the bishop of Rome. The papacy is a development throughout the millenium leading up to the schism, and a big part of the schism is whether or not that development is either Orthodox or a heresy.
@njnikusha
@njnikusha 3 жыл бұрын
Orthodox cross in a video actually is Russian orthodox cross. Every Orthodox country has its own unique styling of the cross
@zzzzz8421
@zzzzz8421 2 жыл бұрын
Well... with the Latin church’s interpretation of how God functions and how our religion is, there was a large problem during those times as the Latin church believed (and later, this became the standard belief for Protestants and Orthodox Christians) that the Holy Spirit and the Son were not an extension of the Father, but equal persons (the former belief that God is the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit are extensions with distinct roles under God the Father, this belief was displaced by the belief of “three equal persons” under a God-head). It’s interesting as questions are raised, such as: “Why are there three Gods in Christianity?” (The mistake coming from three -Equal- persons under a God-head). Jesus said himself that God “taught” Him (the root word in Greek being “to impart knowledge” and/or “to instruct”), implying there was a time when God the Father knew more than Jesus. If God the Father knew more than Jesus, how is Jesus equal to the Father? Also, why would Jesus sit at the right of God the Father? Why would the Bible describe it that way instead of equalising the positions? The language would be “Jesus and God sit together” if that were the case, not Jesus having an important role but God the Father clearly having a more “senior” position (if you will). The point I am trying to make is that God the Father is ‘God’ with Jesus and the Holy Spirit as His extensions, still the same “material” or “substance” that is God but distinct and UNDER God the Father. They are still divine, but God the Father is ‘The God’ and Jesus is his ‘son’. I am not trying to say that “Jesus is nothing, he is not God” merely that He is not God the Father whom is above all things including Jesus. I’m not sure if I explained it well enough...
@jasonophardt9521
@jasonophardt9521 2 жыл бұрын
It's exactly why institutions shouldn't be based of any formal biases that impede change. Holy ghost the father and the son is the best way to personify change in time in ascension or descension depending on ones future outlook progression of present ideals.
@jamilladiallo1321
@jamilladiallo1321 2 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense
@Johnny-sz3zm
@Johnny-sz3zm Жыл бұрын
I agree that Jesus while being God is indeed subordinate to God the Father. Most churches today see them as absolute equals which is not scriptural.
@WangAiHua
@WangAiHua Жыл бұрын
I think that you have explained it quite well!--Thank you! The Son comes from the Father and the Holy Spirit exists with them---Whenever any two are gathered together in my name, there am I also! So too with Man and Woman--they shall become one (with the Holy Spirit--if they are gathered together in God's name)--This is a great mystery and a Grace of God!---And when they have become One, they with children, if also gathered in God's name, exist with the Holy Spirit! Similarly, God, as the One (Holy Trinity) creates man so that together, gathered in the name of God, the Holy Spirit exists with them!
@Da__goat
@Da__goat 4 ай бұрын
No no, that is not correct, the Latin church did not believe that before the eastern church.
@colinborn1740
@colinborn1740 Жыл бұрын
I believe “Nicene” is pronounced with a soft C as in “[NY][SEEN]”.
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@DM-vb6qy Жыл бұрын
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