Why Did This DSG Transmission FAIL?

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The Direct-Shift Gearbox (DSG) transmission, developed by VW, traces its history back to the early 2000s when it was first introduced in the MK4 R32 in Europe. This transmission combines the efficiency of a manual transmission with the convenience of an automatic, DSG quickly gained popularity and became a benchmark for dual-clutch transmission technology in the automotive industry.
Today we tear apart the 6 Speed DSG Transmission out of our MK5 R32!
This Trans had problems being stuck in 2nd gear, would go into limp mode with the PRNDS lights flashing, had a loud clicking noise while idle, and had a nasty whine noise on deceleration. We had a feeling that our R32 would need a transmission, so we pulled this one out and saved it for this video! we wanted to tear apart this DSG to both see how these transmissions work and find the damage left behind!
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@Group.B 5 ай бұрын

“Rear end Ravager” is NUTS!

@hogi99 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a gay slur. 🫣

@brad7073 5 ай бұрын

My eyes popped out of my head at work lol

@msmyankees 4 ай бұрын

Bro didn’t want to say it but also wanted to say it

@jackglabere6653 5 күн бұрын

That can have two meanings LOL

@thebirdhasbeencharged 3 күн бұрын

I literally popped open the comments to type just that, lmao

@ShawnKDooley 5 ай бұрын

It always amazes me the engineering complexity that goes into parts like this.

@nah3193 5 ай бұрын

People get so upset when any car part isn't completely bulletproof, to me it's amazing any of them ever work at all

@Dexspic 5 ай бұрын

@@nah3193 Exactly, when u know how it works, u think like damn! how is this working right now at 5000 rpm without a bolt that is 1mm offset, make it explode, beautiful engineering.

@PapasTTU 5 ай бұрын

@@Dexspic wait y'alls aren't exploding?

@Danercast 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, baffling how much engineering goes into making such an unreliable piece of machinery.

@aaardvaaark 5 ай бұрын

HOW are electric cars more expensive when they don't need all this junk plus all the junk in a modern vvt, turboed, watercooled, computer controlled engine. Shirley they will end up much less expensive once 50% of vehicle production moves to electric drivetrains.

@christheturdherder9096 5 ай бұрын

What I learned today is that when a Mommy Clutch, and a Daddy Clutch, love each other very much. They make a DCT.

@YourFavouriteComment 5 ай бұрын

I used to work in a factory that produced the automatic transmissions. They had a model of the whole thing with parts exposed etc. Still blows my mind that all these individual gears work together so effortlessly

@nerdneckbrodski731 5 ай бұрын

If you actually work in a factory that made them you would know these aren’t automatic transmissions

@johnfox3845 5 ай бұрын

@@nerdneckbrodski731He never said that this was an auto, just that he worked in a factory producing them. Hence his use of the word "the" instead of "these". Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit I see.

@MattyEngland 5 ай бұрын

@@nerdneckbrodski731Troll account.

@Scotty-vs4lf 5 ай бұрын

@@nerdneckbrodski731 if u actually knew how to read you would know he wasnt referring to the transmission in the video

@wilanne 4 ай бұрын

@@nerdneckbrodski731 A direct-shift gearbox (DSG, German: Direktschaltgetriebe) is an electronically controlled, dual-clutch, multiple-shaft, automatic gearbox.

@dwakim1 5 ай бұрын

This was HILARIOUS!! Definitely need a drunk teardown series!

@tamasvarga67 5 ай бұрын

I have a Skoda Yeti 4x4 with 6 speed wet clutch DSG. With 228,000km (142,000 miles) I have the oil changed as it's required in every 60,000km (38,000 miles). So far so good, I love it.

@TormentedPenguin 4 ай бұрын

Poor people can afford metal in their paint. Rich people can afford metal in their oil..

@JCTiggs1 5 ай бұрын

I've had a VW 6 spd manual in an MK8 GTI and recently a DSG in an MK8 R. The DSG is an amazing piece of engineering and as much as I love manuals, I feel the DSG is the proper transmission for the Golf R. As an $800 USD option it's a steal.

@HeathRS 5 ай бұрын

No kidding. VW didn't put enough development into the manual anyway. The DSG works so well. As much as I thought about getting a MK8 GTI manual, there's nothing wrong with my MK7.5 DSG car and so I stage 1 tuned and did the DSG tune. It's amazing what these trans can handle just by a tune. Fluid changes aren't too expensive considering. VW dumped a lot of money into development of the DSG and it shows.

@godlyname8544 5 ай бұрын

@@HeathRS For real the 6 speed in my mk4 is made from glass.

@MattyEngland 5 ай бұрын

@@godlyname8544Mk4 6-speed one of the most reliable transmissions ever made. Must be your technique 😉

@godlyname8544 5 ай бұрын

@@MattyEngland When you granny shift it, its maybe reliable. Not when you try to be faster.

@xXYannuschXx 5 ай бұрын

@@MattyEngland Reliable but slow to shift down, double clutching all the time when I had my 04 Cupra R xD The synchronizer rings really werent the best on those.

@L0rdVadr 5 ай бұрын

Always enjoy the information provided in these videos. You guys are doing a public service. Showing the internals of something like this shed light on what a customer car is doing internally. Very interesting stuff. Good job Paul (and the crew )

@Manoah. 5 ай бұрын

I remember taking one apart at school, to then cut some bits open, create a sort of exploded view, not really exploded view but I hope you get the point, and put it all back together, so the trans could be seen operating to teach new students about this type of transmission (We have also done a CVT and a regular auto aswell before that). Very interesting technique there and I did find it a lot of fun to do, I really enjoyed it....

@2strokeFORever 5 ай бұрын

I can't believe how well the clutch disks look for 200k

@avi-tar2827 5 ай бұрын

Wet clutches are the standard on motorcycles for a reason. With regular oil changes, they tend to last the life of the engine.

@2strokeFORever 5 ай бұрын

@@avi-tar2827 yes but we're talking about a DQ250 which I've seen smoked clutch packs in as little as 40k haha

@notmenotme614 5 ай бұрын

They might have been previously replaced and not the originals?

@error_displaying_name 5 ай бұрын

@@2strokeFORever mine just smoked out i think, at 137k 6k to replace

@olly1oo6 5 ай бұрын

I have one at 250k and it is still completely trouble free on the original clutch pack

@josephmuniz9959 5 ай бұрын

Paul I love when you make videos. Hilarious I always laugh and learn. You and Charles are my favorite vw techs ever

@petejohnson6260 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for another fine video. Always enjoyable and I dig your sense of humor.

@mattk04 5 ай бұрын

I'm not an enthusiast but do like VW. I bought a 2-year old Passat wagon not being excited about maintenance and complexity of the DSG. Found that I liked it and when I added a 2018 Golf to my fleet, I really noticed the difference between a standard auto and DSG. Not sure my next car will be a VW but if so, I'll be wanting a DSG transmission for sure.

@thetechlibrarian 5 ай бұрын

Zf8 speed is just as and more reliable

@chriskonte1909 4 ай бұрын

@@thetechlibrarian Yep. Just recently drove a 2020 VW Tiguan TDI 4Motion with the DSG. That pause when you press the gas is annoying as hell, just like in my old 2016 Smart Forfour Twinamic (also a Dual clutch transmission on these later models.) However when I drove the current BMW 3 series with the ZF8 speed it was the real game changer. Never have I ever driven a better automatic, flawless shifts, smooth, fast, goes instantly.. loved it.

@TormentedPenguin 4 ай бұрын

All these years working on cars.. never really understood a DCT transmission.. and you basically did in 10 minutes what teachers failed to do in multiple classes. You taught me how to break my transmission and make it fun.

@Anduvir 5 ай бұрын

Taking into consideration how complex and fast DSG is, I would not complain on its reliability. My VW DUU manual gearbox stopped my car in an instant while on the second gear near the mall. I didn't know what happened. After few minutes it came back to life just to explode few days later (literally it made a hole in itself).

@Agu_Ra 5 ай бұрын

Oh those 02K gearboxes, those get very unreliable with age, we had em' replaced twice on our family Skoda Octavia (for muricans, it's just a VW Golf in a liftback form) for 170k kms of ownership, and it seems that it hasn't had its original box when we bought it with 160k on the clock (might've been rolled back though, usual stuff over here). Yours probably had its diff rivet shooting through the box's case, it's one of the multitude issues with this tranny, and probably the worst one.

@Anduvir 5 ай бұрын

@@Agu_Ra indeed. Mine died just after 230k. It is a typical mileage for them to die if they don't have to tow anything during their lifetime. I got mine changed for cheap for another DUU that has been working fine for the last 3 years. Thankfully, for me the time to change to the 2.0 TSI 3B is coming. I can't wait to get my hands on the new car.

@SpecialFX99 5 ай бұрын

My dsg is going strong at 230k miles so far, it's been stage 2 or k04 for probably 12-13 years. Outlasted the first engine. I am on my second mechatronics though

@TheAllEngineering 2 ай бұрын

So you spend thousands to keep it going then, mechatronics are not a cheap replacement.

@robertkral9967 5 ай бұрын

An actual true, entertaining, educational, funny automotive tutorial. Thank you

@keyboardheroism 5 ай бұрын

I love my dq250. A tune and adaption of paddle shifters... amazing performance

@eimaiakominzontanos 5 ай бұрын

Watching Paul "technician" things will never, ever get old!!!!! As a fellow "technician" I relate so much to these videos lol!

@gercoyne342 2 ай бұрын

Hi I had a 2006 touareg V6 diesel. Towed a unic mini crane behind all over Ireland and the UK full towing limit. 534,000 Kms , only replaced the air mass module and drive chain for fuel pump. Serviced ahead of schedule. Absolutely brilliant machine with dsg. Miss it. Ger in Ireland

@baremats91 5 ай бұрын

DSG is the best. Many world records have been taken with stock DSG transmissions. No problem with over 1000hp on the DQ500

@V8.777 5 ай бұрын

The gearbox goblin! I'm dead. Stealing that one, thanks Paul!

@jasonmorales7527 5 ай бұрын

I have a 2008 Volkswagen Rabbit 5-speed manual going on 198k. Runs like a champ 🇩🇪

@dopiaza2006 5 ай бұрын

In my experience the box itself is fairly bulletproof, problems are 99% mechatronics related. Can often be fixed fairly cheaply too if you scan and find the faulty actuators which can be found on the web fairly easily. I've fixed a few liek this and never had a comeback on them.

@viniciusbembea 4 ай бұрын

How did you find out which actuators needed to be changed?

@dopiaza2006 4 ай бұрын

@@viniciusbembea Scan the transmission for codes, it will usually tell you which valve has intermittent or total failure.

@MrJaredRich1 5 ай бұрын

I loved my 2014 VW cc dsg with a tune. Shifts were so fast and smooth. It would absolutely crack your neck when it downshifted and launched. Much smoother than these new auto transmissions constantly shifting 8+ gears before 55 with their clunking and lurching.

@viniciusbembea 4 ай бұрын

It's possible to tune the DSG?

@MrJaredRich1 4 ай бұрын

@@viniciusbembea yes, its very noticable

@l.schaillee7401 5 ай бұрын

My DSG broke because the the metal plate that holds the start/stop system to the gearbox came loose and fell into the gearbox.. Result was a big hole in the DSG :') Heard a while after that it's a known problem for the mk 7.5 R and VW never bothered to send any recall info.

@laa98l 5 ай бұрын

I wonder if the DSG broke due to lack of services. I’m hoping to keep mine way longer than 200k miles and I’ve been doing the service Every 40k 😅

@eddiegerlach7121 5 ай бұрын

Ditto! Every 40K miles I take my 2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium in for its DSG Trannie flush/fill. Have 110K on the odometer and she's still kicking. 🙏

@AdiusOmega 4 ай бұрын

Tuning is probably going to exacerbate wear.

@5Dale65 4 ай бұрын

Too less frequent fluid changes chould have sped up the bearing destruction. Getting beat up could have been another case.

@trevlanes 5 ай бұрын

199,000 miles on my mk6 DSG. Love the gearbox!

@Idrinklight44 4 ай бұрын

Whoever did that, im pretty impressed with the amount of metal in that thing!! Congratulations!

@The_Slavstralian 4 ай бұрын

The clutch packs remind me of motorcycle packs. My Troc R has one of these boxes, love seeing what goes on inside the transmission.

@rossbowman202 5 ай бұрын

Great video gentlemen. I am sure that magnetic nonmagnetic part tray is right next to the Paul comes to your home and installs it feature. 🤣 I look forward to the next video.

@FichaelMranklin 5 ай бұрын

Bout time you posted I’ve been waiting

@JRS1235678 4 ай бұрын

im not sure whats so different about this episode, but i love it

@xyzsnr8730 4 ай бұрын

I had three different cars with DSG, DCT same tech and they all were spectacular. Smooth, reliable and fuel efficient.. May be I was lucky, or not unlucky or maybe this tech already matured when I had those 2011 and 2020, and 2023 model cars...

@Pr3stag3 5 ай бұрын

First time watching this channel and i gotta say i like what i see. I just wish there was an unbleeped version i love watching channels where they are not afraid to just speak what they want and show their real personality.

@simonh870 5 ай бұрын

Personally, for a fun car you cannot beat a decent manual. Yes autos and dual clutches can sometimes make the car faster and more economical but they remove a level of driver involvement.

@BigEightiesNewWave 5 ай бұрын

Yes, like missed shifts, at critical moments, and grinding.

@luckylukekansai9594 5 ай бұрын

just... EPIC! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the laughs Paul and kudos to the editor 👏

@byronn.2885 5 ай бұрын

Seems to me like regular fluid changes would go a long ways to keeping these transmissions alive. They look like a big dirt bike trans with the addition of some electronics to control the up/down shifts.

@MegaHollywood1971 5 ай бұрын

Bearings inside of anything don't last forever. Keeping with earlier than later fluid changes would keep many components from failing. But, the Mk5 didn't have TCU tuning back in the day - so, if it were ever tuned that could have been the segway.

@teov3420 5 ай бұрын

AMAZING VIDEO!!! Entertaining and informative.

@Msj10934 4 ай бұрын

I’ve got a MKV TDI. Maybe 230k mls. That transmission is SO much nicer than the automatic in my Buick, which I now daily drive. Hope that when I get my TDI fully built the transmission still holds up.

@Califahrer67 5 ай бұрын

Nice video. There was one fault: The oil pump is not driven by the transmission but by the ICE. That is the reason why this tiny shaft is going through the whole transmission to the end. If it would be driven by the transmission there would be no oil pressure at stand still.

@KasamS 5 ай бұрын

Dq381 had a recall for the internal oil pump bolts getting loose. Had to replace the bolts if they didn't destroy the trans so they made a service kit for carrying out the repair

@thomasvennekens4137 5 ай бұрын

thats why i like zf's sun moon gear design over this , you take out a lot bearing load in the process

@michag5561 9 күн бұрын

0:21 thank You 🙏, I needed to hear that!

@stonewp 5 ай бұрын

I’m hoping to see a video of someone repairing one of these transmissions. There are rebuild kits available on several transmission websites.

@antonioalv8445 5 ай бұрын

Hello, I have a question outside the topic of this video. I have a 2017 golf gti. I have 2 coilover options: Bilstein B14 PSS and Bilstein Evo S, which of the 2 would be the best option, knowing that I am looking for COMFORT more than anything.

@jasonsejkora4578 2 ай бұрын

I love that you guys get find these cars that are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than mine. makes me feel better about stuff

@stratonarrow 5 ай бұрын

My mk7 GTI has the DSG and it’s really really good.

@Mike44460 5 ай бұрын

Well done, good explanation, thanks.

@tptrsn 5 ай бұрын

EXCELLENT video!

@reef6076 5 ай бұрын

its a very good transmision, here you can see that somebody didint make oil changes and a bearing goes missing, normal thing if you dont change oil in 50/60k km, in europe you can get rebuilt set for this trans.

@corenolmeda5120 5 ай бұрын

i really loved this video, thankyou

@mikkomakinen1429 4 ай бұрын

Is it at any hope to get a dry clutch 7 speed dsg (dq200 if i remember correctly) demolished to the bench?

@InCountry6970 5 ай бұрын

Actually, the MKIV R32 came to the US in 2004 with 6 speed manual only. I still have mine and it is great

@MrMario-mt3mp 5 ай бұрын

I have a mk6 golf gti with 100 miles on it, i do hear somtimes multiple click sounds when i switch gear between p r and d, if its like the gear is slipping and taking time to be on, i do change dsg oil every 30miles any help in this matter?. Thx for this informative video and channel.

@bamdragon25 5 ай бұрын

How heavy is the dq250? Can it be carried by hand? I want to install an lsd but dont have a shop or engine hoist I can use

@ComeJesusChrist 5 ай бұрын

I’ve had an MkV Golf 1.9TDi with one of these and although, I had to spend just over £600 on it to replace the flywheel or the clutch(?) if I remember right, it was the gearbox that changed my view on auto gearboxes. I’ve had various Mercedes (SL, 190E, C/E 4/6 cylinders) and some awful Subarus (Outback/Impreza) with auto gearboxes, but no other gearbox came close to the speed, convenience and comfort of this. I still toy with the idea of getting either an auto GTI or an A3 with one of these.

@607perkins 5 ай бұрын

Yes , you CAN buy some parts. Including "that" gasket. See Diagnose Dan recent vid on a dsg solinoid update on an audi dsg. Good luck on finding that bearing though.

@2001pulsar 5 ай бұрын

Do you sell a rebuild kit for DSG? Also, does it include all the seals? Thanks.

@DEVUNK88 5 ай бұрын

the only time I ever heard of a failure it was the trans controller. not sure what caused it to go bad. but it had to get sent over seas to be reprogrammed

@nsf733 5 күн бұрын

I would like to ask if the C-line clamp ring of the gear box can be purchased?

@ZSnowman 5 ай бұрын

Is the second noise(with the bang with half a second in between) related directly to the trans? Never had any other signs but occasionally it's banging on idle when im at a red light. Please enlighten me how to fix that if it's the trans😭

@bamf3244 5 ай бұрын

I just bought an A3 that has a slight rythmatic thud when coasting at low speeds. after replacing a bunch of surrounding stuff I have found my DSG is making the noise. I can get the the noise to stop whenever I put the car in neutral. I have a kit to do filter and fluid so hopefully that fixes this mess.

@TomasWatchReviews 5 ай бұрын

thanks, very good educational video.

@DIESELTIME456 3 ай бұрын

11:54 is there a possibility this parking pawl could fail due to low transmission fluid. And would doing a oil service fix this problem. As i suspect this part failed due to low dsg oil on my vehicle im using bcoz of low oil it is now making it harder for the part to disengage. My vehicle can go into D but move forward a slight inch then locks. (I have no faults on box only says low transmission fluid) .

@marklatham8601 5 ай бұрын

Cool video,very informative!!😊

@NJRoadfan 5 ай бұрын

The first DSG equipped car in the US was the 2004 New Beetle TDI. Those early boxes had some really odd behavior, particularly on cold days. I recall my 06 GLI would sometime lurch (!) on start on cold mornings. They seemed to have ironed out most of the problems with the S-Tronic box that is in my 18 A4, except for servicing costs. I thought VW was going to "dry clutch" DSGs that used much less fluid. Guess that didn't pan out.

@tally5k339 5 ай бұрын

They used dry clutch DSGs on some of the lower-end cars in the rest of the world. The 1.4 TSI twin charged engine for example I think could be had with a 7-speed dry DSG. That whole combo was horrifically unreliable, so yeah, that didn't pan out

@davidc-l9174 5 ай бұрын

@@tally5k339 The Jetta Hybrid had a dry clutch 7-speed DSG, too. I don't think it was quite as problematic as other applications of the same transmission, likely because it didn't need to slip the clutch to get moving in most situations since it almost always started in electric only mode.

@davidc-l9174 5 ай бұрын

Technically, the first U.S. car with a DSG was the 2003 Audi TT 3.2, but the 2004 New Beetle TDI was the first VW in the U.S. with the DSG.

@b_d 5 ай бұрын

My mom has an 2015 A3 1.4 TSI hatchback, which she got new and has been with it since, back in Brazil. This model has the DQ200 transmission (dry clutch DSG), and it is pretty amazing, but it indeed has that infamous unrealiabiity history due to being 'fragile'. This year the trans failed all of a sudden, then she took it to Audi and they covered the services for its replacement, given she did all the services regularly there. It took them 2 months to repair it (mostly due to having to wait for parts to come) and the bill was around 8k USD (rough convertion to the 40k BRL bill), which is nuts considering the car is estimated at around 75k BRL, so more than half the value of it.... Had Audi not covered the repair, it would certainly be scrapped. Apart from that, the car still looks and runs great tho.

@englishpassport6590 4 ай бұрын

The present 1.5 litre Renault Scenic Mk4 7 speed dual clutch automatic gearbox has two dry clutches which means the gearbox oil remains much cleaner for much longer. So far I have not ben able to find a garage to change my 1.5 litre Renault Scenic 7speed dual clutch gearbox oil. I do not trust any dealer garage because after over 50 years of driving I have had to conclude that all the dealer networks are interested in is selling you a new car. I have no doubts that they would be strongly tempted to sabotage the car you already have. I now have 30.000 miles on the clock and I am still trying to find some decent garage or mechanic to change it for me!.

@djtribo8925 5 ай бұрын

Gotta love Paul!

@chrisrutherford3862 5 ай бұрын

Best Show on youutube hands down!!

@rileydanielson3697 5 ай бұрын

Would love to see this guy tear apart a getrag DPS6 (Focus DSG)

@Doctor_Sudipto-Paediatrics 4 ай бұрын

This felt like a Steve Carell transmission tutorial 😊😊

@siemensnavelman2867 Ай бұрын

I have driven a car with a DSG gearbox for years. It doesn't get any better, drives extremely well.

@inhaleexhale8966 Ай бұрын

I have for the first time a car with automatic transmition (DSG7) and I like it. 4 years until now. I am happy with it

@SergeyPRKL 5 ай бұрын

SO, what if i replaced that bearing. (and seals) but used rest of the old parts? Would it work normally?

@andyvip 3 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen so much chaos and destruction in one video. As borat once said - very nice!

@tommydeets 5 ай бұрын

How do they know which gear is the "next gear"? It could be up or down. I'm assuming based on RPM?

@keaganray9925 5 ай бұрын

You completely forgot about the first car to come with a dsg in the United States along with the mk4 gti, the vr6 Audi tt with a dsg in 2004. I own one and it’s amazing, 125k miles shifts perfect

@HerrWolfBruno Ай бұрын

Honestly have been watching all of these videos because of Paul’s personality he’s too funny

@txtpeer5179 5 ай бұрын

That one is pretty good great intro!

@xXYannuschXx 5 ай бұрын

What baffles me is that you cant replace thinks like seals and gaskets, because nobody makes them, since this DSG is considered "non serviceable". I remember when I had my 04 Cupra R and you could get every single freaking part even nearly two decades after they made the damn thing. How is this even legal?

@pebjr6621 5 ай бұрын

I have a 09 Jetta TDI with DSG that has almost 300K on it. Only thing I have replace was the DMF. I religiously change fluid every 40K miles. I'm planning on 500K miles...

@JoePelayo1 5 ай бұрын

"non-serviceable" what are we supposed to do if the dsg craps out on us? Are we having to buy a new one? Or risking buying a used one from the junkyard? Are they supposed to last forever with scheduled fluid changes? Thanks for putting together all these great vids!

@Malc180s 5 ай бұрын

Lots of things are unserviceable. Wouldn't worry about it.

@geetarwanabe 3 ай бұрын

Had a dsg on my old car (just a seat leon fr) and it was awesome

@CristianCarpiuc 4 ай бұрын

Hello what do you think about the 1.5 tsi engine is reliable?

@t7ank 5 ай бұрын

Is there any good video changing clutch pack on DSG7?

@UnunderstandingScience 2 ай бұрын

Didn’t know I needed this 😭😭😭😂

@Fmandan77 5 ай бұрын

I have a 2013 GTI / DSG with 211,000 miles, much of it highway mileage. I'm concerned however, because nothing lasts forever. The DSG has been flawless thus far. Because much of my driving is highway, I've been doing my DSG oil changes about 60-70K miles. The fluid always looks nice and clear, only a little darker than the new VW fluid that replaces it. This GTI is the best car I've owned, hoping it will see 300,000 miles someday.

@BLACKRACERONE 5 ай бұрын

Hi, still on the stock engine, can you share some of the problems you've had so far?

@TerribleAcid 5 ай бұрын

Thats a good interval but in Kilometers :) DQ250 are pretty bulletproof.

@Fmandan77 5 ай бұрын

Yes, my engine is completely stock. It's been nearly flawless. The OEM water pump began to leak after I received an early recall notice, so I had it replaced. Since then I replaced the coil packs after two failed. Outside of oil changes and spark plugs, I didn't replace anything until the 190,000 mile mark when my idle was becoming noticeably rough. I had received a notice from VW that my GTI's intake manifold was likely faulty, but my mileage was beyond what they covered. So I chose to replace the intake when I did a valve cleaning and replaced the fuel injectors as well. With a new intake, clean valves and new injectors the car idles like new once again. As a precautionary measure, I have an appointment to have the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced later this month. I'm letting VW complete this task which will be the first time they've seen the car since my early water pump replacement. @@BLACKRACERONE

@Fmandan77 5 ай бұрын

I can't argue with that, but at 200K and fairly clear fluid at changes, I still believe I've done okay given the highway use.@@TerribleAcid

@BLACKRACERONE 5 ай бұрын

@@Fmandan77 Thank you very much I've just got a MK7.5 GTi Engine code CHH with 40.000 miles, I just hope I get the same mileage as you .. Its a DSG and I'm planning keeping it stock.

@DevineDigital 5 ай бұрын

Paul! It was the MK1 VR6 TT in the states 😛

@carsugarmodels 4 ай бұрын

I have 7 speed DSG in my Skoda with 1.6TDI CR engine and my workshop states that it is not possible to replace the fluid in this DSG. Is this true?

@MigotRen 5 ай бұрын

I bought an audi rs3 early this year and they only come with a DSG. Its actually the sturdiest dsg vw builds, the DQ500 , which is actually rated for 600NM, weird right? tho they supposedly handle 800nm stock and up to 1000 on upgraded clutches very well. a coworker complains about the 250 or 381 not being very happy with handeling more than stock power. I miss the feeling of a manual but this thing does it pretty well i would say. it is a perfect bridge between comfort, effiency and "sportyness". Put it into manual and you feel like racing driver, pulling peddals, smashing in the next gear. you can even "manually" shift with the stick but vw/audi fucked up the orientation. so you pull on the shifter for down and push for up. Porsche does it the other way arround like in every sequential you see on rally cars and such. Works very well but it can get "overwhelmed" when you shift into a gear it didnt expect. like when you want to downshift from 3rd to 2nd but were crusing before so it had 4th selected. takes a second before it shifts the appropriate gear and then engages it.

@sarcastixx74 5 ай бұрын

The DQ500 isn't the sturdiest of the variants, that title belongs to the DQ800 which is found on the second gen R8s and Lambo Huracans. The 800 can handle over 1200Nm with stage 3 race clutch packs. The DQ500 and DL501 (longitudinal engine variant) are near identical in specs and I believe the mechatronic units for both boxes are the same. I've run TVS stage 2+ TCU tune on my stage 2+ B8 S4 and it has totally transformed how the car drives. Butter smooth up/down shifts in normal drive mode and satisfying DSG farts when giving it some. But like you I'm totally sold on this type of transmission and absolutely love it. Also looking forward to when I eventually upgrade to a C7 (or C7.5 if budget allows) RS6 next spring. I can see why people are wary of them though, but I simply ignored all the internet hate on them as the known faults were widely exaggerated and quickly ironed out with recalls on the first gen units with lower quality oil that allowed sulphur buildup/failure on the mechatronic units.

@kevinsantos4660 4 ай бұрын

i have a question unrelated to this video. i replaced the cmp on my jetta because of a p0341 code but the code still pops up and the cel light is on any ideas why that is?

@bradleyb-radmangadi4832 5 ай бұрын

This is a nice video,,, STARTING FROM WHICH YEAR MODEL HAS GOOD DSG TRANSMISSIONS???

@goldendevereaux 5 ай бұрын

If you want no quirks, I would pick any DSG on the MQB platform. As a personal MK6 DSG GTI owner. I love the car, and the transmission. BUT, as people have mentioned and in this video, cars like to lurch from a stop, it being cold can make it act weird, and if you're not ready for a high repair cost if it ever needs to be taken care of, don't buy one, stick with a manual. Even with my GTI being taken care of, and having both of it's DSG services being done on time, it still likes to act weird.

@soapmcsoapface1787 5 ай бұрын

DSG is honestly really reliable, even the mech units have become alot better with time, rarely see any issues with them at the shop anymore compared to what it used to be like. Recently had a freak outlier DSG in a brand new Caddy (not even delivered yet) with a bad clutch pack but thats about it. otherwise if we ever have DSG issues at the shop it is usually on the smaller ones with the dry clutch packs or something older coming in to just diagnos it.

@SlosII 5 ай бұрын

hello sir, I've got a 7 speed dry clutch DSG coupled to a 1.0 TSI engine (car is from 2017). The last 6 months I noticed the car is not as smooth as it once was when driving a low speeds, especially when it's slipping the clutch in 2nd gear at very low speeds, the whole thing doesn't seem to be happy and there is a slight (slight for now) noise coming from what I think is the gearbox. Should I get this thing checked (I always go to the main dealer for regular servicing)? At first I thought maybe the clutch or dual mass flywheel (or both) need replacing but now that I see ball bearings being destroyed in the gearbox I'm getting more worried. I've got 65k miles on the clock. Any advice? Thanks in advance. The car drives absolutely fine otherwise, it's just at low speeds. Also it can be very clunky on the downshift from 3rd to 2nd and from 2nd into first (it kind of depends how hard you're decelerating). Thanks!

@soapmcsoapface1787 5 ай бұрын

@@SlosII for the driveability and clunky gear changes there is a procedure from factory that your dealer should be able to find. The dry clutch DSGs can also be a little clunky when cold because they do intentionally slip the clutches when getting going from standing when they are cold to heat up the clutches faster. As for the noise its hard to really say much without checking it since alot of stuff can make noise, but bearing issues are really uncommon, never had a DSG with bearing issues that i can remember. As a tech i would say advise with your local shop and try and detail it as much as possible for them. Stuff like when/how it happens so like is it when the car is cold or up to temp, outside temp, weather conditions, road conditions in general, certain maneuvers. Basically anything you can think of to narrow it down. Or even have a tech ride along and show what happens can be a good thing.

@SlosII 5 ай бұрын

@@soapmcsoapface1787thank you, sir.

@DarkAttack14 5 ай бұрын

My 2012 passat diesel has a wet clutch DSG and the transmission itself seems really solid. Holding my tune pushing 300 foot pounds or so.. only issue is the dual mass flywheels suck and wear out. Mine wants to explode badly but has not yet thankfully

@leviathan5207 5 ай бұрын

VW says they are supposed to last 300.000km that aint even 200k miles... The DSG ain't reliable at all when compared to manual or torque converter automatic transmissions

@Ashjuhh 5 ай бұрын

Changed my dual clutch in my DQ250 from my Polo this week, 1400€ out of my wallet and it drives amazing. Still a few weird actions, maybe it's time for a DSG tune

@KasamS 5 ай бұрын

U got wet or dry clutch

@alexaescht 5 ай бұрын

@@KasamSDQ250 is dry clutch

@KasamS 5 ай бұрын

@@alexaescht it looks pretty wet to me. Dq200 is the dry one

@SolidQuasar 5 ай бұрын

What about the 09g auto trans? Would you say it's reliable?

@rdflo6739 5 ай бұрын

Can't believe they don't make replacement parts. Basically you'll be throwing out a transmission that was fine apart from a single bearing. But then again for the VW group, it's not really a surprise. The one question I have though, it can select two gears, one that you're driving with and a future gear. How does it know if the next gear change will be up or down?! Thanks for the fun video!

@ComputersAndCoffey 5 ай бұрын

I can’t say for certain but it’s probably programmed to look for user input and body movement. If you’re on the gas pedal it knows that you’re going to continue moving up through the gears so it queues next gear, if you remove your foot from the accelerator, it can likely assume you’re going to slow down and it needs to queue a lower gear - if I were to guess - I’m sure there are a ton of other sensor input and programming things but what I’ve explained is probably 80% of it.

@samgrimwood3483 4 ай бұрын

Got a mk5 gti with one, it's all in the software, if you downshift while cruising it will take a good second to downshift and it will be a bit harsh. If you downshift while braking or starting to accelerate it's fast and smooth as.

@apopisso6302 2 ай бұрын

Yep, My wife’s Audi Q2 ,2 litre,zippy little car ,is in the Audi dealer workshop now, mechatronic failure after 30,000 kms(18640 miles).One year over five year warranty. Needs ONE part replaced, coming from Germany in 4-6 weeks.Cost of repair$AU3500. Of course I’m refusing to pay, they’re contacting Audi Germany to request removal/ reduction of fee.We had a Golf which was recalled and mechatronics were replaced free of charge. My wife really wanted the Q2, Audi GUARANTEED me,prepurchase,that the current DSG would be a major improvement on the old one and would be no trouble.Please check any prospective car purchase gearbox and steer clear of DSG.

@noahjensen2376 5 ай бұрын

I think the 2004 diesel beetle with a DSG was was actually delivered in the US before the MK5 GTI. I was selling VW’s at the time and distinctly remember getting a TDI beetle for the lot that came with a DSG well before any MK5 GTI’s showed up.

@SB68SS 5 ай бұрын

the MK4 Golf R32 was the first to have it

@Deutscheautoparts 5 ай бұрын

You’re right the TDI beetle was the first VW in the US to have a DSG.

@noahjensen2376 5 ай бұрын

edited original comment to clarify "in the US"@@SB68SS

@noahjensen2376 5 ай бұрын

I was "and still am" a total VW geek 20 years ago. I completely nerded out when a random beetle showed up with a DSG. I probably tried to sell that car to every person who walked in the door. "This car has a DSG, it's the first in the US!!" I was the one who sold it, but probably to some cosmetics sales rep or something. @@Deutscheautoparts

@kyleohara1949 5 ай бұрын

My 2006 TDI (BRM) Jetta (us spec) came with a DSG and i love it! 389k and on its second clutch! Still going strong!