The irony was that the whole premise is that Tris has a personality...and yet she has absolutely no personality.

The divergent series is just like my essays, slowly getting worse until it’s complete garbage and doesn’t even finish

Let's be real, the "honest" faction could have been hilariously chaotic if the book had better writing

as someone who read this series in a middle school book club, I'm not surprised it was written in 3 weeks. it feels like something that you write for a creative writing class assignment that's due in 48 hours

“Why did we forget about Divergent so fast?” Maybe cuz I was actively trying to repress the memories after that awful ending

this whole movies conflict is that the main character has a personality

Katniss would have literally killed whoever was responsible if she found out that Panemn was being watched by someone outside who could have intervened to stop the games but didn't

The fact that the book Divergent was written in 3 weeks is crazy impressive. An entire book. Damn.

If someone gave Dylan a dollar everytime he mentioned his shitty uni being shut down because of lack of funding, he would single handedly be able to fund its reopening.

Dylan : Beer and a movie Me: that’s a misdirect

I’m I the only one who realizes that the emoji movie and divergent have basically the same plot? I mean think about it: our hero lives in a world where they have no choice but to join a faction based off what they’re chosen to be, but the protagonist has more than one “personality traits” so a oppressive female leader vows to destroy them or make them like everyone else. They also both have a love interest who’s mysterious and full of secrets, a highly advanced but oppressive society, and have been heavily criticized for ripping off previous works! Except ones a desperate attempt to be relevant with the kids, and the others a movie for moody 14 year old girls who think they’re better than everyone else.

I liked the end of the last movie when she said “It’s Divergin’ Time” and Diverged all over the place

the main character is “unique” in this story because she is.... a normal human being

Nobody: Dylan at every chance he has: Guys my college SHUT DOWN!

Divergent is like that series that randomly comes to my mind every couple years for no reason, before I up and forget it exists again

"she's the protagonist, she can't die...yet" This made me laugh so hard but also cry at the same time!! 😂😂

Dylan: you CAN write a book in three days me: .... Dylan: takes three years to write three chapters

Tris’ whole personality was: “I’m divergent”

I think a major issue with Divergent (along with all of those Hunger Games copycats) is that a lot of them really failed to understand the actual meaning of the original trilogy. Hunger Games was a fun sandbox with a love triangle and a cool, capable female protagonist, but that's not what the narrative itself was actually about. It was about the horrors of capitalism, about commercialism, about class, about Hollywood and desensitization-in the book, anyway. Movie's a different story, but the point remains. Divergent, on the other hand, isn't really about anything. Tris and Four and the sandbox they're stuck in are all it's got. Even that could've been good if their relationship SAID something about anything, but it doesn't. Well. Metatextually, it says something about the state of YA literature, but... I don't think the author meant to do that.

Not me spending 4+ years planning my sci-fi novel without writing a single word only to find out that Roth wrote Divergent in 3 weeks 💀

dylan: "you can't write a book in three weeks" yeah dylan, you've been writting a book for three years so... you should know

My biggest problem with divergent is that Tris was only 100% divergent because her mother came from the outside. putting an outsider into the experiment completely ruined the experiment and no one even acknowledged it.

The factions seem like they were inspired by the main 6 in My Little Pony. Honesty-Apple Jack Bravery- Rainbowdash (loyalty) Peaceful-Fluttershy (kindness) Smart-Twilight Selfless- Rarity (generosity) I'm gonna go with Pinkie Pie is Divergent because she is kind and generous :) But with MLP these traits were given to 6 individual characters. I don't understand what's up with the idea of sorting personalities into 4 or 5 groups but maybe the author was watching mlp on her winter break

Honestly one thing that I really enjoyed about Divergent is its commitment of killing the main character. Not many series would do that.

Knowing that she wrote Divergent in 3 weeks and became a best selling author actually gives me confidence that maybe one day I'll get published.

compared to late night dylan’s budget, this is like a marvel movie

One small detail that really irritates me is the fact that the factions’ naming conventions aren’t uniform: Abnegation, Amity and Candor are nouns while Dauntless and Erudite are adjectives. This shouldn’t piss me off as much as it does…but it does. This is, of course, barring the fact that segregating people based on personality (as though everyone just has one their entire lives) is absolutely braindead, and you could just picture Veronica Roth writing the books knowing full well that teenage girls will buy the books in droves then immediately take a Buzzfeed quiz for their faction while going “they just like me fr”. Edit: one other thing I just remembered; Veronica Roth’s factions are a blatant attempt to leach off of the success of the Hunger Games yet somehow fails to achieve even that, because the districts in the Hunger Games make sense as each one specializes in a particular field or line of work; no human being specializes in one personality, that is impossible. Tris may have come from Abnegation, but if there was a faction called Whining, that’s where she’d belong. TL;DR - Veronica Roth’s not a good storyteller.

At the beginning of the book it is specified that the fearless faction has the most choosy faction requirements to get in, but they obviously also have the highest mortality rate. One of their own faction died at the train jumping ceremony. A person who has been doing this for at least a year died at the first task of jumping off a train, which they do every day.

can we just agree that movie franchises need to stop splitting last books into two movies?

This movie is literally just the maze runner and hunger games mixed together and was made in 3 weeks

I met veronica Roth in person in a Q and A session with dinner. I also bought her latest books (forgot their titles) and had them signed. I tried so hard to read them but gave up and then sold them on eBay for no profit cos I just wanted to get rid of them. I didn't read her divergent series either, I was just there to ask her about how to become a successful author. She didn't explain much, basically I chalked it down to luck. $300 for dinner and meet and greet and didnt even include the price of her books. I'm stupified. At least she seemed nice and complimented my dress

The best thing about the 3 movies is the cast. Theo James has two successful tv shows right now, Miles Teller as Rooster in Top Gun Maverick is amazing, Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman in The Batman was phenomenal. The rest of the cast featured Kate Winslet, Maqqie Q, Ashley Judd, Tony Goldwyn, Ray Stevenson and my fav Shailene Woodley. It's crazy the 4th movie wasn't made.

i’m in class but this is more important

The fact that each character can pick whichever faction they want is inherently flawed. If a character's aptitude test shows that they align with abnegation but they end up choosing dauntless (which they're allowed to do) it shows that they have conflicting traits about them. Which makes them... divergent.

This is really ironic bc that's exactly how I read these books. I gradually slowed down until the 3rd book... and I got so bored I forgot for months and then didn't remember most of book 3 so gave up and read something better.

The fact that she wrote the book in around 50 days (apparently that's what she said, so it wasn't exactly just over winter break) kind of explains some things for me. It's been a long time since I read the books, but I do remember really enjoying them. It was definitely well written, and the characters and general atmosphere/world were well-done. But when I think about it, there were always elements of the world and story that didn't altogether make sense, that I overlooked because I was invested in the characters and their experiences. To me it really explains why the movies fell so flat for me. When I watched them, I came out feeling like it was somehow too faithful an adaptation. I think that the reason the books worked is because she is a good writer, but the movies couldn't capture that the same way because it's a different medium, so even though the movies were faithful to the story and world from the books, they came out feeling pretty bland by comparison.

Isnt it weird to know that "divergent" basically just means *normal* people. Like clap clap for being unique and interesting.

I think we forgot about divergent because it literally falls into the whole “teen girl has to save a dystopian society” trope that became popular with the hunger games it’s literally like the author of Divergent asked the author of the hunger games for her homework and the hunger games author told her ok but don’t copy it all the way change a few answers EDIT: oh wow thanks everyone for the likes :)

When you think about it, it’s actually pretty impressive how good the book is considered it was written in 3 weeks

You stopping to kindly reassure the author is what earned my subscribe. You’re awesome dude

Dylan whenever he gets the chance: "So I actually went to a scam college that recently closed for business"

Dylan’s just mad that he hasn’t finished his book in three years while she wrote it in three weeks

25:25 To be very generous, I think the idea (based on something you showed earlier where they described exactly how the genetic modification "went wrong") was that the gene-mods presented in hyper focus (those modded to be brave were brave to the determent of everything else, etc) so the factions were supposed to be like this kinda reverse psychology test. If you were divergent it meant that your genes "had fixed themselves" or whatever. Like, the whole thing was a set up just waiting for the first person to go "hey this all seems really dumb" and then they win I guess?

i think what saved this movies, especially the first one, is the chemistry between four and trice. actors did a great job about that it brings life to it tbh

honestly i have so much respect for Veronica Roth like she really just wrote a bare bones book in three weeks, piggybacking off the success of the hunger games, gave it to an audience she knew would eat it up, and then made absolute bank off it. legend edit: thanks for reminding me of her name

it’s weird how this whole movies conflict is that tris has a personality and yet tris doesn’t really have much of a personality outside of “im the divergent”

It’s a story that has now become infamous among Northwestern writers: Veronica Roth (Weinberg ’10) wrote her breakout novel “Divergent” over her senior year winter break, signed a three-book contract with HarperCollins by April and sold the movie rights to the novel just before graduation. The book went on to become a massive hit among young adults, eventually being turned into a film trilogy that generated over $750 million at the box office. But Roth said it didn’t go exactly like that. After taking a light course load in the fall and completing her final papers early, Roth said she took about 50 days to write “Divergent.” She sent the rough draft to an agent she had previously spoken to (whom she found after Googling “how to get published by a big publisher”), who took interest in the piece and signed her. Roth then took another light course load in the spring so she could make revisions. For the people arguing about how long it took her to write it and if that included revisions. People forget just how many YA movies came out and failed. It was like Vampires and zombies, then over night, they just all mostly went away. Shadow and bone is the only one that currently comes to mind.

Being reminded of this series again and hearing that "in a nutshell" explanation. The more connection I can making it to going in college.

I can’t believe I laughed out loud at the “repetitiveness in speech” joke 😂

The ONLY reason i haven't forgotten about this series is bc I think of how hot Theo james is occasionally.

When I first read the first book, I LOVED it. It kinda reminded me of the hunger games which I also love. It started off very strong and had lots of potential but it kinda lost that potential in the second book. It moved really slow and I can barely remember the first part of the book. I liked the idea of the whole thing just being an experiment, but I hate how everything happened so fast and randomly. Like four breaks out of the compound after bed time, boom Uriahs dying. The whole thing could have been a lot better but just unnecessarily stretched out scenes, made some scenes feel too short, and a lot of the deaths felt unnecessary, to the point where I can’t even remember half of them.

Shitting with no stalls is dauntless. And may I say? Brave.

*Dylan’s never gonna stop talking abt how his college closed down😂*

The author wrote Divergent in three weeks? Damn the fact that it's not completely terrible is honestly impressive.

I haven't seen this movie, but the way you sarcasticly describe using military intervention to kidnap children away from their homes and parents and forcing them into a "better society" has a really bitter taste when you consider how such actions have played out in real life. Like maybe they did a terrible job at portraying it in the movie or maybe I'm misreading the sarcasm but "medicine and longer/better lives" has historically been used in propaganda to excuse many cases of forced displacement. Forced displacement is a violation of the Geneva Convention according to Article 49 and is considered a war crime.

7:32 the candor serum actually didn’t work on her she told the truth because she wanted to. I’m not sure if they mention that in the movie, but it was definitely mentioned in the book.

the amount of CONTENT us troublemakers are getting this week

Dylan: **realizes he almost spilled wine on his white pants** Dylan: “whew that was close” Dylan: **claps using wine glass moments later**

how did i read this book and love it so much like i was obsessed yet i had absolutely no idea any of this world-making plot

literally just finished re-reading this series and scrolled through your channel to find something to watch and saw this.... I am ready

thing is, I read every book multiple times and have seen these films, and can also say I have absolutely 0 idea what's going on at all

The book could have literally been about a child born Fractionless and how they survive and their choosing ceremony, etc. Because you NEVER see any Fractionless children- they could be taken away at birth and given to families, but what if they manage to hide a child and raise it as this Fractionless activist? Someone who tries to break the barriers and stigma around it. You could still have oppressive government, minority groups, revolution, etc with a much more interesting character.

I liked the first book (I was a teenager at the time), bougth the second and found it ok... And then I bougth the 3rd and I was like "What the f***ck?"

Dylan, I really appreciate this format, please do more :)

The whole concept of divergent is that one girl has a personality, but like she didn’t at the same time she’s literally the stereotypical brunette who has no personality whatsoever but the whole film is about her 😭😭

The fact that Veronica seems to think "In wrote it in 3 weeks" is something to brag about tells you everything you need to know about it.

I think a big downfall for this series comes from the source material. I read the first book and loved it, it could've been a wonderful standalone! Then Insurgent was so boring it took me six months to finish, and I never read the third my mother told me it was that bad! Also, Divergent was clearly chasing the coattails of The Hunger Games' success, but had terrible worldbuilding and was too clearly a ripoff to be successful. I think the author wanted to be as revolutionary as The Hunger Games, but Divergent watered down the formula and wondered why it didn't succeed.

The line: "its almost christmas, winter break is almost over", made me chuckle, because my winterbreak starts december 23rd

Dylan’s version of divergent is 50 times better than the actual divergent.

"She can't die, she's the protagonist, she can't die... Yet" On point

I remember absolutely LOVING these movies when I was like 12. I tried watching them again last year (I'm 20 now) so nostalgia and I could barely get through the first movie

I remember reading the first book and not minding it but being weirded out that apparently the smart faction was evil. I didn't like the story well enough to read the next book so I have no idea how that played out in the series. I just remember seeing hints of 'nerds, but EVIL" and finding it rather strange.

My sister described this movie perfectly: “Theo James took off his shirt and it still almost was not enough for me to keep watching.”

Any movie: cOLLeGe Dylan: hEY gUyS dO yOu kNOw mY cOLLeGe LitErALLy wAs sHut DoWN

This breakdown of the series is golden. Pure golden. Every aspect of it.

This series has some good ideas and had potential to be better. Roth should have put more time into it. I feel like a lot of fans of the series were using it to pass the time between Hunger Games movies and lost interest once The Hunger Games was done. The books, Roth made it up as she went along and didn't put enough thought into why the world is set up the way it is or what being divergent means. Divergent originally meant having traits of more than one faction but that was flawed because a lot of characters are written with traits of more than one faction, so it was retconned to be a specific genetic marker that defines divergence. and Roth had no idea where to go with the story once they left the city. The explanations given for everything was so ridiculous, it would have been better to just not have a third book and let fan fic writers give us a multiple choice ending. The city was set up to create divergents, then why in all seven hells is it set up to keep people separated by their genetic defects? the faction system is the opposite of what the experiment is supposed to be trying to achieve! why not set up a system that encourages divergence! and them declaring Tris a success of the experiment when actually her mom came from outside. so she inherited genes from a normal human and you declare it success in breeding out the damaged traits? that's like doing that experiment that is supposed to turn sugar into a crystal, putting. crystal in, and declaring it a success. also, Four is a stupid name. I never called him that, I always called him Tobias. SPOILER ALERT Tris dying in the end. I'm not opposed to the main character dying, the problem I have is the rest of the story played out the same way it would if she lived. In contrast, when Prim died in The Hunger Games, it affected the plot. It affected Katniss' choices going forward about her friendship with Gale and about killing Coin. Tris' death affected nothing in the outcome of the story. as for the movies, the studio execs clearly didn't even read the books. they decided to do what all the cool franchises were doing and split the last one in two with no thought to the consequences! turned out, there wasn't enough story to split in two. The fourth movie would have ended up being mostly original material, they wound up covering most of the book in one movie. I'm not sure what the plot of the forth one was going to be.

let’s be honest guys. the first movie was great, the others were trash.

I'll be honest, I never even realized they didn't finish the series. I straight up forgot about it after Allegiant Pt 1.

I am willing to argue that The Hunger Games have a great story outside of the games. You actually made me gasp on that one.

Me and my friends read the series this year. We’ll probably never forget about it.

It's literally a movie about a chick who's "not like other girls"

“Shes the protagonist, she cant die...yet” *internally screaming*

This guy has made me laugh more than anyone this week😂😂 I needed that.

I’ve seen all the movies and literally never knew the plot hahaha I was so shocked when you started explaining it!

*Dylans whole personality is that his college shut down*

Dylan: She's the protagonist, she can't die- Me who has read the books and Dylan at the same time: *yet*

I just found this video and it took me to those days when I was a book blogger and the books were being released. Something that also ruined the movies was the ending of the final book. I remember the whole book community HATED the ending.

Dylan can we PLEASE get more Beer and a Movie videos??? I love these!

“Dylan: “I wanted to ring in the new year with wine” Me: Dylan it’s almost March

HAHA WHEN U WERE DESCRIBING THE FAKE PLOT WHERE FRIENDS HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN FACTION OR FAMILY I LEGIT THOUGHT THAT WAS THE REAL PLOT CAUSE I HAVENT WATCHED IT IN SO LONG AND I WAS LIKE "hmmm... this is actually pretty good?" and then u went back to the real plot and I was shocked lmao

My parents got me the books when I was ten, I was traumatized but they were hardcover so they sat on my bookshelf for a few years.

This whole dystopian society teen dramas that came in quick succesion just became a single mush in my head, when I looked at the thumbnail I thought that it talked about Hunger Games, and while thinking about it I could only remember Maze Runner. Hunger Games started actually good, but after it everything came so fast that now they are the same thing when I try to remember something about it.

DYLAN HIT 1 MIL AS HE SHOULD WELL DONE TROUBLMAKERS WE DID IT

Funny story: A friend of mine pirated Divergent from a torrent site, Burned it to DVD and tried to watch it, she turned it off, and threw the disc away. She said "Basically, I stole this movie, and I'M the one feeling cheated". I took her advice and didn't bother with it.

I remember the discourse at the time of the release of the third book, primarily being that everyone hated that Tris died at the end. I’m actually surprised to see that not even being mentioned, let alone acknowledged, mostly since that seemed to be a really big deal to a lot of people at that time.

Thank you for helping me explain this series.. cuz i kept fing that up lol

I will NEVER forget that terrible epilogue called "we can be mended", where Four ended up with Christina. The more Veronica Roth wrote about Divergent, the more she fucked up.

An ex-girlfriend of mine liked these goofy books lol. I give Veronica Roth an F for story and an A+ for understanding her target customers. She probably wipes her tears from reading bad reviews with hundred dollar bills.

Having really enjoyed it, I tried to summarize divergent in a few sentences like you did with Hunger Games. I found, umm and question marks highly accurate.

I was more of a hunger games girly but I thoroughly enjoyed this, thank you.