I'm surprised Nu didn't mention the obvious reason older bows weren't centre shot, if you cut a chuck out of an older one peice of wood bow, it would be far more likely to snap under full draw. Modern materials allow us to create weak points in a bow such as centre shot cutouts because the materials are better at compenating, but older wood only bows wouldn't be able to take the strain on a weakened part. I've seen enough bows explode on the tiller jig to see why old bow makes wouldn't remove so much material from a bow.

A paradox is a contradictory or unexpected result. The archer’s paradox is neither the flexing or the offset but the fact that despite pointing off to one side the arrow will actually shoot more or less on a straight line as if through the centre of the stave. The offset sets up the expectation of a result but the flexing causes the actual result.

Good point on the stiffness of the arrow. Thank you.

Also, don't forget that a Straight riser made of just wood would be a little structurally weakened by putting a window in it. The modern day risers are designed to stay strong with the window.

A thorough explanation of the issue. I've wondered about this myself- now I'm informed. Thank you, Nu. Flaxen Saxon.

This is a great video for someone just starting with traditional bows. Thank you so much!

I enjoyed this explanation even though I knew this material. You do an excellent job as always. Thanks

Excellent explanation! Thank you.

I wish you had talked a little bit about radiused "cut-off center" shooting shelf. Have a nice day.

I was about to buy a traditional bow but after watching your videos I think I just get a modern one

Great explanation. Thank you.

most modern bows with a wood riser are not truly center-shot. They will have a window cutout for the shelf but not beyond centerline of the bow; making the arrow off-center. Bows with a metal riser are usually stronger than wood, allowing for the window to be truly center-shot....example: the Hoyt Helix.

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great video mate

Thanks, great video

Thank You for Your Video. Like your comments in this video. Informative.

Great video and nice playing with you on mordhau .

How does the flat surface not rip off the feathers? I’ve been looking for a new rest for my bow, but I can’t find any but this flat one with hairs? And I don’t know if I’m gonna waste my time buying it or not

Hi your videos are nice easy to understand. I am a hobbyist bow maker & fun archer. pls tell me where is the "center shot window and arrow rest" are located on raiser / handle? on the very center of the handle OR little above?

Why stiff arrows goes to the left and weak arrow arrows to the right? Can you make a video

7:33 got to admit. NUsensie kinda lookin like a badass

Can you please make a comprehensive video on arrow and bow tuning?

Just bought turkish bow. Still adjusting without center shot. Im RH and place d arrow on right side, slavic draw. Arrow fly always on d right side. Same with mediterranean style arrow fly always on the left. The arrow always hit d bow cause of noise it made and bruise to my bow. Any suggestions what to do. Thanks

Can you still mess around with thumb release and other styles of shooting with that center window? I've been looking at my bow with a center window and it feels very limited (super shrew 2)

I really want to know,why the arrow doesnt shoot from the center of the bow according to lenght of the whole thing. It always seems to be that the arrow sits on the top half of the string

Thanks bro

Something I think you almost mentioned, that I've been wondering: With a center shot recurve, I can cant the bow, get the arrow directly under my eye, and basically do the horizontal aiming along the arrow. Can you still do that with a bow like an English longbow that is not center shot? Or is the point off to one side when aiming?

Hi NUSensei for the next video, will you make a video about "English Longbow with Thumb Draw"

Many modern bow hunters now use extremely precise bows with highly advanced sights, carbon or aluminum frames with short thick springs pulling cam wheels which change the resting draw, whisker biscuits, scopes, balances, finger triggers, and even butt stocks [as opposed to cross bows which typically have butt stocks, but also have rails and some times have carriages, and now even magazines and cocking arms (fashioned loosely from the Chinese Lián Nŭ repeating bow, only highly advanced)].

When using a horsebow, would wooden arrows work better than carbon for flexing upon release? Also do feather fletchings help as well?

The center shot forces me to shoot the arrow on the left side only right? Can I grip a left hand bow with my right hand, so i can nock the arrow on the right side?

Can you recommend where to buy a ELB in Australia, preferably a self-bow? That one you have looks nice. Hickory?

The level of precision and power required for a bow on the ancient battlefield depended on the time period. In the late medieval period, armor had advanced to the point where it required very precise shooting from a very powerful bow to take down an armored enemy. The level of precision you are describing fits more in earlier periods with less advanced armor.

NUSensei, Question, how come is so hard to fine left handed bow? when I was younger I had a left hand bow and I lost it like 30 years ago and I would like to get back into archery again, but I can't find a left handed bow any where, I went to every sporting good store and pawn shop near where I live, I even look online but no luck. do you know any where I can find one at a good price?

Thanks for explaining another archery mystery! So the natural follow up question would be: “Why do we use arrows with different spine today, couldn’t we all use the most stiff arrows with modern bows?”

I would disagree on "same amount of skill". For an Asiatic archer, they would have to master khatra - which is one more set of motions. For a western style shooter, they would have to refine their technique since non-shelved bows are less forgiving. Would love to know your thoughts if you think otherwise. I do agree they're for different purposes and do not think one bow type is superior to the other. Please don't get me wrong though - loved this video and love this channel! 🎯

Have you seen any of the videos from a channel called Tod's Workshop?

I think that in the old days they typically shot instinctive and target was less important so when you learnt to shoot instinctive you do not aim with anything visual on the bow but your muscle memory compensates for the lack of cut out. I only look at the target when I shoot so it doesn't matter to me how the bow is setup. I'm also not very accurate either lol

How many asian bow do you have

So to sum it up, center-shot bows are less spine critical ?

Are windows bows cheaper than apple bows?

Very detailed explanation. Well done. But I would disagree on the skill required point. Khatra takes a lot more time to master. And with it you eliminate the paradox entirely, just like with the center shot bow. I would even dare say it can produce a straighter shot because the arrow is not in contact with the shelf and bow the entire time of release.

If your using a old style bow and you are right handed put the arrow in the right side for faster shooting

Just on a point. You say it doesn't take more skill to use a traditional bow and then say the center shot bow is more forgiving which implies that it does require less skill to use a center shot bow. So yes it does take more skill/practice to use a historical bow design at the same level as more modern designs

Why not put the center shot in the right side the cut out it is for faster shooting

@4:00 and hunting.

Ok can u do a video proving that a recurve bow cant hurt u ?

Your little switch to the other video with facial hair fucked with my brain for a bit. :D

For my perspective< I see no need for precision. My bow has a cut out but the riser is aluminium so at least the risk of it snapping is near non existent.

"and very often people misunderstand what the archer's paradox is" then proceeds to do just that. When setting up a bow with a cut past/centre shot window, it's still setup (with a rug rest and plate) with the arrow (when nocked) pointing to the left of the string on a right handed bow. This means that a) archer's paradox is still evident, even if diminished. b) the arrow spines/bends around the riser. Again, even if the amount of 'bending around the riser' is considerably diminished when compared to a stick bow, it still occurs. To conclude, the arrow does a similar thing but it does so in different amounts because there has been a specific engineering solution applied. Correct arrow spine is still required, even on a cut away riser bcs the archer's paradox is intrinsic to finger/tab shooting and recurve/longbow archery. Whether shooting off the shelf or a rest, the combination of correct arrow spine and rest setup sees the arrow pointing to the left (or right for a lefty) of the string, meaning the arrow still bends around the riser or rest to a degree. So you really should stop saying that "modern cut away risers don't archer's paradox" because it is demonstrably wrong to say so. A little may not be alot, but it's still some and more than none.

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Of a video on how to tell if ur bow string is garbage

There isnt one video I can find that has a recurve injury all compound bows does it mean these are absolutely safe 100%

Ever since I was a kid, I've always been put off by the appearance of center-shot bows, because they make the bow look structurally weak. I wouldn't dream of constructing a bow that way, especially since I lean towards traditional or primitive ones.

Hmm Clay Hayes makes Osage center shot bows.

is not center shoot, is left side arrow reload method

Why modern bows so modern

Historically, longbows would have been more prone to broken limbs with the Centre-Shot Shelves. They are not good for self-bows, handmade longbows. No thank you. Great video and explanation though.

What? There are archery myths?

You are bassicly hanzo from overwatch without the ultimate stuff

Does it matter why? It doesn't change the fact that you still have to pull the bowstring and aim in order to shoot.

A thing that is less forgiving inherently requires more skill to successfully utilize, sorry. Your contention that historical bows can be fired competently with the same ease as modern ones just isn't logical.

How many asian bow do you have