thanks for sharing your investigations and observations. I have heard from a biologist that the migrating birds have a 'magnetic monopole' (a magnet which only atracts) which guides them or moves them in their migrations. As I have studied the Human Design System I learned that we also have a magnetic monopole in our sternumm but the Scientists have not yet discovered it; it also moves us in our geometry, our path in Life. If we listen/ feel, make decisiones with our body and not with our mind , life flows with less resistances...

Hey there,my neighbor brought a Starling that her two cats got hold of and it was on a Sunday, I immediately picked it up out of the box ,you could not see any signs of anything wrong with it other than its heart was beating so fast,I put it under my shirt with my hand over it right over my heart,I got it warmed up and calm while I struggled using my other hand to get a heating pad in a cage ready. I put it in the cage and after a short while tried to give it water, it was making the sound that they all make in their flock and it tried to turn over on its left side and I continue to not let it,I remember if Birds hits glass and turnover on its back they will die, I felt like I handled it a little much but I don’t feel like I had any other options,Then I held it in my hands and it gripped my fingers something fierce,And then I tried to see if it could fly with my hands supporting it,It seem to really make a connection with me and my two canaries standard Poodle. I took it back out and I worked with it in my hands and I talked with that a lot it almost was like my child,I could tell it’s still had issues breathing and swallowing that there was nothing I actually could do... A place called “wild care “isn’t open on Sundays but I had learned everything that I had done from them,I talked to the Starling a lot, it seem to respond to my voice and I kept on saying you can make it ,you can be out in that giant oak tree in the morning, I gave it another rest and my Poodle stayed close and alerted me when it was close to the end.I actually believe this Starling might have been poisoned, and then attacked by the cats, it also had a musk smell about it? But I will say it was a magnificent creature and I was so fortunate to be up close and personal to it. I actually believe this bird must held a great position in its flock...It was so strange Because I was petting him/ her while It passed and I said meet me on the other side when it’s my turn, and I also told it that I would get it a beautiful tree and plant it and bury you beneath it and I have.... I played Emerson Lake and Palmer lucky man while I buried this amazing Starling!!!

so well articulated. Thank you for sharing

Very well said. I really enjoyed read this and learnt some interesting facts about these majestic birds. Thank you for sharing. Where can I read more ☺️

DigitalPimp Just watching one could make you feel like you are, lol.

Having witnessed this in 1976 under the influence of 750μg of high purity bicentennial LSD in Brighton on England's south coast I can tell you it truly is. Add after image trails and you have an awesome tapestry...

@@spiritofenquiry 750μg?! That's insane! Most I've ever done is 250μg and that was probably crazy enough for me haha

I watched a bunch of vultures on mescaline once. They were eating a feral cat.

It would be a good trip

They migrate and congregate in the winter and have done for their lives as a species, whose not to say you invaded their homeland area?

100 starlings were released in Central Park nyc in 1890 and from that 100 birds we now have 200,000,000 starlings in the US. They were brought here by Shakespeare enthusiasts who wanted to introduce all the birds mentioned in Shakespeare’s works to the US. I can’t make this stuff up lol. “Acclimation societies” were popular amongst Victorian aristocrats back then. Yikes. Well, the starlings aren’t going anywhere so we might as well enjoy them.

@@liliaaaaaaaa They're right. Starlings are native to Europe. They are a nuisance here in the US

@@dinodiego5615 Reminds me of the American grey squirrel being introduced to Ireland. The Duke of Buckingham gave a dozen grey squirrels as a wedding present, the wicker basket they were contained in was ceremoniously opened on the lawn of Castle Forbes in County Longford to delighted applause... This act has done significant harm to the ecosystem, the grey squirrel has thrived while the population of our native red squirrel has declined to dangerously low levels, not to mention the harm grey squirrels can do to broadleaf trees...

@Aco747lyte Actually, they do collide, and there are often tens or hundreds deadly collisions. www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-50741457 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r5emg9Slq9uoZps.html

@@michel.b5752 that video link is a completely different subject. It even says the dead birds were robins and sparrows

​@@joeyvindictive3552 In the first video the comment writes "About 255 starlings" In the second video, the woman says robins or sparrows, but any birdwatcher would recognize starlings at first glance. Robins have a red breast, and sparrows have long wings and long tails.

@@michel.b5752 There's no reason to assume that they fell because they collided. In fact, after watching their fantastic aerial agility, I'd say that collisions of such a high number are pretty unlikely. Some people have speculated that the birds may have been caught in strong down drafts and hit the ground with force. Even if they did happen to collide, they would probably have the ability to self-correct pretty quickly. If they can react to the birds around them 10-20 times faster than a human pilot can react I find it impossible to believe that these birds hit the ground because they collided.

@@judylloyd7901 How comes that all reports of "massive death of bird" show starlings (except a few case due to poisoning) ? Put some perturbations (like a bird of prey, or a passing by car) and for many of the starling, there is no more path in front of them. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLl4mrqEmtm4coE.html, t=1:57

Exactly. We just don't want to admit sometimes that 'we do not know"

🎯 I thought I was the only one. It was better if I didn't hear all this "science". This is still speculation because we're not starlings

It was the equivalent of saying humans drive vehicles on motorways for no other reason than the compulsion of physics, interacting with the first cars immediately in our peripheral vision. Speculative and ignorant at the same time.

You called it nature but I call it god's miracle.

Scenario?

I witnessed one in the 1990's on the beach at Ocracoke Island. We'd gone down to check on our cabin after a hurricane had come through. Standing on the beach looking North all of a sudden this massive cloud of birds appeared and began their dance! I challenge anyone not to be in awe of such a beautiful occurrence ! I'll never forget that feeling of joy !

@Stuart P At dawn, the starlings want to land to go sleeping, but they try to avoid being a prey for predators, so they should not land first, nor be the last one in flight. Also it is safer to be in the middle of the flock, not at the periphery. (same origin for the fishes swimming in school). This is the origin of these swarm-like flock of birds. However, frequently there are mid-air collisions, resulting in tens or hundreds of dead starlings.

In science "explain" means to describe observable phenomena in terms of simpler or more general ideas. That's what they're doing here -- spacing between a bird and its seven closest neighbors. If they were being more scientifically rigorous, they would have mentioned reaction times, bird acceleration capabilities (change of speed and direction), and random or intentional perturbations.

@@roytee3127 Please go on, do this observations and measurement. Then you will be allowed to criticisize

@@michel.b5752 I did modeling and simulation for 35 years. Checking out the original paper, I see that they studied only one aspect of movement in a murmuration - sudden mass change in direction. They didn't include the wave-like behavior so evident in many of the videos here. Compression waves, torsion waves, shear waves, etc. There's more going on here. BTW - I read many years ago about physicists constructing a similar model for vehicle traffic. No, I have neither the resources nor the inclination to pursue this. But I'd love to see what a team of biologists and mathematicians could do with a more sophisticated model.

@@roytee3127 Probably the same behavior for fish school

I think the starlings can "see" and "hear" something in the atmosphere that we cannot, and are following it.

@@fabricobjects-llc3581Yeah, who knows?☺

Don't bother my Cable TiVi for sure!

@Fabric Objects - LLC Yes, they see the neighbour ones, only a few, and this is enough to make a full pattern. Like the cells of your skin "see "the neighbouring cells and a whole continuous skin is the result. Local interactions may result in a global pattern.

Greetings Aimee, you’re looking as beautiful as the sunlight, how are you doing my dear friend?

I agree with you. It’s just fun. They do it here in my neighborhood from January to August.

They kill woodpeckers and flickers too, and many other kinds of native birds.

Did he happen to measure the volume of bird shit and whether it made a similar pattern? 😂

Would you accept math? And minimum personal space? Note the waves of high density that propagate through a group. Check out cellular automata, and e.g. the Game of Life.

Apparently no one has ever witnessed any collisions.

Totally agree with you. I don't believe in that either. They give a human explanation to a bird phenomenon...

Totally agree, I typed a comment I'll post below before I read yours. This is very typical of modern science hand waving something and calling it scientific fact. Wow what utter bullshit. I love science but modern science just speaks through its ass and then tips its hat. Let's apply some critical thinking to this "scientific fact" that murmurations are wholly explained by critical transition and this is "physics" at work. We are told that the flock changes course and therefore shape because one random bird changes direction because of something like a predator but we know this is total bunk because the birds will just as rapidly change course back the way they came (maybe they are surrounded even though we can see no predators!) but that isn't the main issue with this so called scientific explanation. The main issue is that we are supposed to believe that one bird changing direction causes a hundred thousand other birds to do the same because that one bird causes the disruption but in any physical model one force repelling a force 100 thousand times or even just 5 times more powerful will never happen. So the question is why would one bird change the course of X amount of other birds and not the much more logical X amount of birds would change the direction of just one bird. Where is the "tip[ping point" of one bird changing direction against 100 thousand other birds? It is utter nonsense. Not only that the flocks constantly change direction shape without explanation and I'm sorry just hand waving it and saying one bird got spooked by a predator and caused the other 100 thousand to go the same direction "due to "physics" is just horse shit. Clearly there is something else involved and given this is migratory behaviour which itself is tied into electromagnatism the answer is likely far more complex and different than this lowbrow "science has all the answers" bullshit.

I think the video is trying to emphasise, without getting into too much technical detail, that group behaviour can be modelled as an aggregation of "local rules". If you can create an accurate computer simulation by modelling just one starling and then creating lots of copies of that, you have illustrated the principle. In the past, these behaviours would have been explained in terms of a "group mind" or some such nonsensical notion.

@@ambarnag The key is "accurate simulation". This seems more like emulation than simulation. Just because you can reproduce the patterns with an algorithm does not mean you are simulating what is happening. How is it possible to say they have accurately simulated a starlings senses and behaviour? If we can capture a flock in a moment of flight and there positions and velocity accurately recorded and then that data fed into this algorithm, a pound to a pinch of pig shit says it does not accurately predict the patterns the birds subsequently made.

@@Muckylittleme Actually that may never be possible. Systems that show emergent properties are by definition, unpredictable because of hypersensitivity to small perturbations. Just because you can't predict the precise shape of a snowflake doesn't mean you don't know how they form. I can recommend the book Chaos by James Gleick for an intro.

@Rosemarie Plant Ok Boomer

grah55 - Keep your nastiness in YOUR pocket, mate. OK, Ageist.

@@mrh8509 - SO last year dear!

@@thumbprint7150 Ok Boomer

@Voltaic Fire Sure thing, oaf.

Sure is. There are two piers in Brighton and they murmurate around both the burnt out West Pier (shown) and the amusement arcade and candy shop store lined Palace Pier.

Only record a small part of it, otherwise you miss out on "being there" because while filming it, you are only watching it on the screen rather than fully experiencing it in real life 3D.

Jack Frost Best of both worlds, filming it and being there, experience it while you’re filming it.

@@alvaroakatico9188 I guess I agree, considering that the experience can be "relived" on screen many times even tens of years later.

Phone in the pocket... because you are not likely to see a murmuration just because there are some starlings around

I saw mine in the 1990's before cell phones. But the memory of that occurrence is stored safely in my brain, thank you very much! ;)

Everything in nature is a miracle.Don't deny in Earth's miracles*

'frequency' of what?

'I wrote about this more than once. And let scientists not bother with this.' Do you see any contradiction in your two statements?

That doesn't explain their aerial display at dusk.

Yes! It reminded me of fish too!

OK. Maybe we should all ignore Rupert Sheldrake from now on then.

@@massimookissed1023 For what reason?

@@sauroman1 , because his pseudoscientific woo is as useful as homeopathy.

no, for just one bird it would be painful.

Perhaps. Perhaps they are scoping out the terrain before they land and settle for the night, making sure it's safe.

Yeah I think they are almost worse than sparrows. I just finished watching a video of them in Rome. The areas where they land are covered slick in bird poop. Workers in hasmat suits come in to clean up and scare them away. I know they will clean bushes of berries that cedar wax wings feed on. And they are considered agriculture pests, eating farmers' grains.

The first thing one should realize is that starling murmurations as in this video were filmed in Europe. North America has no where near the population of starlings that Europe does where they are native. So calling starlings a "super invasive species is an exaggeration. Many other species of insects and plants have a far greater impact on the environment in the west. Murder hornets, fire ants, Russian thistle aka tumble weed and many more.

@Michael Deierhoi Starlings are an invasive species due to their effect on native wildlife by carrying diseases and being aggresive towards nesting birds, major effect on agriculture, and they're super invasive because of how massive their population has grown in such a relatively short amount of time in north america. I wouldn't call it an exaggeration in the least. Murder hornets are a good example of yes, an invasive species, but one we're still managing to currently contain and keep control of. I also believe you'd be wrong in stating there's more starlings in europe, at the high end, there's estimated to be about 105 million starlings in europe and over 200 million in North America. Those numbers from Birdlife International, dated 2015.

@@trycethomas939 I looked at a couple of sites and it appears that you are correct. I am surprised that the starling is as high as 200 mil from my own observations of birds for the last ten years. I never guessed it would be that high. Thanks for see this more clearly.

The explanation they give is silly that if one moves the immediate seven around that one moves causing those around the seven to move... logically they still would be flying into one another... there is clearly something else going on.

Wtf are you saying that why Allah not Gesus? Maybe there is another creator or maybe not

​@@angelo98idem ِAllah is the name of the God. Jesus is his messenger , Jesus is a human was worshipping God and living exactly like any other messenger such as Moses Noah Adam While Adam has no father nor mother, Eve has evolved from Adam body, Jesus is born from a Mother without a father. It was God's miracle to the children of Israel

​@Blass then can you explain how spirit works. Can you explain how information transfer from mother to children in animals such as birds. Who teaches born birds to build nests similar to those built by mothers. Surely you do not have an answer. The answer is God who taught every creature how to act and live. However, In Islam, we are ordered by God to learn : God said in the Quran : Al-Alaq بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم READ IN THE name of your Lord who created, (1) Created man from an embryo; (2) Read, for your Lord is most beneficent, (3) Who taught by the pen, (4) Taught man what he did not know. (5) And yet, but yet man is rebellious, (6) For he thinks he is sufficient in himself.

@Blass Thank you for your clause "I'm all for freedom of religion but...."

@Blass yes Blass all of us are ignorant until we learn and enlighten ourselves with information. You blass are ignorant tell you know Islam from Muslims not from hatred media.

It wasn't Hashem in that verse, it was Elokim.