I remember at one point i was hard up for cash and couldnt afford to train. I told my instructor i didnt have the money, he said not to worry about it to pay him when i had it but not to stop comming. 3 months later got a new job and what not, walked up to him and handed him 3months of dues, he handed it back to me and said dont worry about it, go buy a new gi. I always made sure my dues were paid after that. Oss

One of the best video responses on the topic of quitting BJJ. Another thing that would help teachers with retention is to simply follow up with students after they have been injured (or other), a simple phone call with honest dialog goes a long way.

Your philosophy has taught me tapping out, what belt i am or comparing myself to others is a distraction to my journey. Once i loose sight of the journey i stop learning effectively. I meditate to keep my journey fresh everyday. I see move sequence clearly during meditation i practice yoga while meditating moves breathing and believing im reaching my goals. It is all about the mind set.

To say Ryron is an exceptional teacher is an understatement.

I had a coach that didn't really care and that really burned me out. Kept me at white belt no stripes for a long time even though I was smashing his favorites. After 4 years he gave me 3 stripes all at once in private once again after I had smashed his people. he didnt care when I broke my leg there or when I competed. I got so tired of the drama there I left. BJJ should be fun not BS and dealing with arrogant people (both the professor and some of his students).

Ryron LITERALLY went back in time and read my mind when I was mid-level blue belt. Everything he says is right on the money.

I really feel that thinking about winning and losing while training is a mistake. Ask yourself; are you trying to win? Or are you trying to learn? Once I started rolling to learn instead of rolling to win, I started getting better, faster. Roll to learn and you'll get much better, sooner. No one "gets tapped". You choose to tap because you have control of yourself.

Assuming new students walk in the door with their motivation being self defense. Once they hit blue, their confidence is up....their skills are up and the focus of the curriculum also changes to become more sport focused. Which means...they feel (confidence) and they see (curriculum ...since it changes to sport focused at blue) that they no longer need to further their juijitsu for self defense. So their initial hunger fades out.

It was almost a seminar, very good and right philosophy. Ryron is great as always. Much appreciated the interviewer also

This man has a huge gift and should be getting paid good teaching trainers and gym how to operate. This man will create a champion out of anyone who come into a gym. God bless you brother

I love Jiu-Jitsu but I'm just too broke to pay $100 a month

I know where I need to train now. Im middle aged but I still look like a stud. That is a curse. After my bi-lateral hernia surgery,my hip mobility has not been the same. People pass my guard with ease, my mind knows what it wants to do but the body won’t follow. I have good days, but I’m frustrated. I love the school I go to, but they are aggressive. Ive been a long time purple belt and because I look young all the young studs come after me. I am too proud to say no and I pay for it. I don’t like making excuses, so I just roll. It took a GST course and 6 private lessons with a Gracie instructor to get me to accept what is being said in this video. I have had more fun rolls since. I now allow myself to tap to learn how to be better defensively. I saved a little money and in going in for more private’s and joining Gracies Master class. I love the environment. My only regret is not finding them sooner. I should have gone to the source in the begging.

I can tell you reasons people quit at blue. 1. No clear cut advice on how to progress to next level. 2. To many emotional ups and downs. Time required to progress. Let me explain. First. Your instructor will say, relax, stay loose, don't go fast, don't focus so much on submissions, yet you see other blue belts not relaxing, going very fast and just going for submissions and they are getting stripes on their belt....WHAT? Purple belt is NOT black belt, why make is so hard? Which brings me to my next point. Second..emotional ups and downs. Life is already hard enough as it is. For some people it is VERY hard, emotionally, why mess with them emotionally with jiu jitsu and making it so hard to progress? The curriculum should be cut and dry. 3. To much time to progress. I have been a blue belt for 4 years. I am 40. I constantly have to roll with guys that are half my age, yet they are progressing much faster, already getting stripes and haven't even had their blue belt a year. I can hold my own against them yet I am can only train 2-3 times a week because of responsibility and they are training 5 times a week. So....why am I judged by the same standards? These are the reasons people quit jiu jitsu but no one ever mentions. I have thought about quitting multiple times. I train, work hard, yet i'm getting older, I constantly get injured and at the end of the day i ask myself.....is it worth it if i'm going to be compared to someone else? Sorry these are my frustrations I have trying to deal with

the thing he said at the end about when youre thinking about quitting... 100% true!!! i did this when i was feeling demoralized and like i wasn't as good as i should be/wanted to be and wanted to quit!!! funny thing is - its bc of another youtube video from years ago where Ryron said he asked his grandfather why he wasnt getting any better or asked how he could get better - and Helio said: "stop focusing on winning and focus on not losing." I applied that concept the next time i went to class a BOOM! it was fun again. there was no pressure from myself to ''be good'', my defense game went way up, i felt more comfortable in bad positions....do it. dont quit. just quit allowing yourself to be pressured into being some submission beast. thats not what bjj is really about.

Also, the price of BJJ is crazy in many places. Where I live the cost of 4 weeks of BJJ classes buys you 10 weeks of Judo classes. I could also buy a gym membership for my whole family to use for less than the price of a month of BJJ. My old BJJ gym made you buy a $180 gi, whereas the Judo class I attend allows me to wear $50 gi.

Anyone else glad Rener wasn't here to ruin this conversation?

sometimes people just don't love bjj as much as you do, one of the things about bjj is there is an evangelical element in it. For some people it is not the life changing lifestyle as it is for some people. to some it is what it actually is . Just a sport.

Sucks....I tried BJJ recently and tore muscles/cartilage between my ribs on the 7th class. Which turns out to be a really painful injury which you can't do much of anything. I am older 38 but in very good shape and just don't know when to take it down a notch. I wish they would have held off on live training for a while (started on day 1). I tapped out several blue belts that had 30 to 50 lbs on me but I hurt myself much more....lol. Was not worth it. I know I should go back but I have a high paying career, kids, and a couple houses to take care of. MY POINT....there should be a longer break in period to allow your mind and body to prepare for this training.

Another reason people are quitting at blue belt is because blue belt was their goal. I’ve been told by several people to just train for your blue belt and you should know enough to defend yourself in a situation. They would say things like a blue belt knows more on the street than the average guy. A lot of people just want to learn self defense and not compete. Of course you do need some sparring. Some Jiu jitsu schools offer a separate class for self defense only. These are guys or women that have an office job or just want to get in shape while learning.

The first gym I went to was so expensive and I couldn't afford it. The guy had me pass out fliers for free classes. I never followed up on it after the first day of passing out fliers. 12 years later I found a great teacher who also loves the Messiah. I am hooked. I pay more than asked and never miss a month even for quarantine. I do use the gym whenever I like so I get something out of it.

I used to love BJJ and trained 4-5x a week but as work commitments increased I wasn't able to train as often. I got a bit frustrated with slower progress and it was hard to justify paying the monthly fee to train 1-2x a week. I'd lose motivation and then find excuses to not go and started gaining weight. Now I just work out on my own in the morning like 4x/week and am in almost as good a shape as when I was training BJJ seriously. I understand pushing yourself when something is difficult but if you feel like you are putting more into something than you are getting out of it I don't think there is any shame in walking away.

I quit training because I have to take care of my father since he got stroke. It's hard man to find a time between training and taking care of him

Some people actually find the whole "Jiu Jitsu lifestyle" thing disingenuous and frankly cultish, which can be very off putting. Like we had one Black belt (a world class fighter) visit the gym and talk about the JJ lifestyle, eat right and all that.... then he got busted for PED a few months later :/

Think the opinion on video rather precise, it is expensive for a lot of folks these days but in my case it was age & injuries. I'm 58 now, started Jiu -Jitsu just before Ult fight 1 when I was 31, trained with Gracie students from home gyms & a blue belt (ex-Pwer Ranger) that is now a black belt. I was just a hobbyist, not training for more than jelf-defense and fun, but my 3rd harsh neck strain at an amateur tournament ended me and I paid quite a price the next decade in chronic pain. Still have a home mat & home made wrestling dummy to work my finishing holds. I MISS ROLLING SO MUCH, did continue in my 50's with 7 yrs of Wing Chun, but Jiu-Jitsu was my love!!!

Don't mess with Little Jimmy

Agree to disagree in reference to driving distance not being good enough of a reason to quit. Ryron seems to think that just because a student states that distance has now become a factor in leaving the school that it isn't the real reason and it has to be the student wanting to avoid certain aspects of training. Not true, there have been people who have left jobs to work closer leave a home they love to move closer to their job. On top of that, there maybe other factors but distance was the final one that made the decision final. While I'm sure there are students who live far out an stay at the school but another student that doesn't live quite as far leaves, again there distance was probably the straw that broke the camels back.

needed to see this video. thank you

This would help my school but I'm too afraid to post it on our FB page.

Wisdom from Ryron. 8 years ago, Jiujitsu was my life as a white belt, until the instructor/owner of the Gracie training center in Overland Park, KS got angry with me and injured me in a teaching session and refused to apologize. He had a grudge against me because he incorrectly thought I was planning to start a Gracie garage and lure students away. I quit jiujitsu.

What a great interview ❤❤❤

I don’t want to pay $100 for only 2 days of Jiujitsu. One of those days is in the Gi

Sorry, but there is no way I would be able to drive 2 hrs away and get enough training in.

Maybe is because Jiu Jitsu after a while is not that fun anymore???

My shoulder hurts.

Ryron is right on the money here.

By 3:23 i'm overwhelmed by the level of good analysis

Ryron is a great man, Ryron is the most valuable descendant of Helio Gracie

The reason why I quit because the class was so bad that I didn't even stretch or do nothing before beginning of a class and I was a newcomer

whatever Ryron said is truth !! he's the best

bad training partners that only care about winning

Costs way too much money. Average costs in my county is $180 month.

thank you

Great video

99% of all bjj black belts when asked if they would give up what they had learned for a million dollars (That was a lot of money a few years back) answer a resounding NO not a chance. So at a 100 a month times ten year average to blackbelt= twelve to twenty grand for a million dollar value. Its kind of a no brainer.

I think, like anything it no longer becomes a mystery or intriguing as it was before as a fresh new white belt. Things begin to look familiar, you are used to the routine of warm ups, then class, drilling the lesson of the day and then rolling. etc. etc.

Cool

He makes some good points but is missing a lot. Never let any one thing define who you are, esp a hobby, have lots of interests, there's too many people who live and breath this stuff and IMO its not healthy. I also think the belt system is a shambles and tbh would prefer aikido approach, no belts but black once your there, this would also rectify the so called ego. Clubs constantly making reference to points and comps, sorry, but I couldn't care less how many points such and such is worth as I don't compete. All of it and more just leads to an overly competitive environment, and after a while shit gets boring .... Its then that your brain starts thinking, im paying to be here, along with petrol costs, injuries and time away from family which tbh nothing is worth, these are just further nails in the BJJ coffin, sorry but you need to look more inwardly on why people leave, not quit, and its not all to do with egos.

Because they get over it that’s all.

Gold words!

Wise man!

To me I think they were intimidated by me too because I'm a big person

I quit as a kid after failing the yellow belt test and after the class and the instructors practically laughed me out of the room. I was so upset I left the building and walked about a mile to find a payphone to call my Mom to pick me up. She was furious that no one at the studio didn't even bother to search for a 10 year old wandering around at night in a less than stellar part of town.

Most BJJ schools are not following this very good philosophy

So basically do away with belts then no body can cears if you lose just get better

Why do students quit jiu jitsu?? Because I can’t move my fucking neck!!!! That’s why!!

Whispering words of wisdom... Le it be...

Also when you're injured, your dues are still being pulled by the academy. So if you have to be out for a month, or two months... that's money wasted. Of course I would quit if that happened to me.

last class this I submit this new kid jus started 5 times. Id GIVE A TWO FUCKS ABOUT IT. jiu jitsu is 1 my personal spiritual outlet 2 like one of the Gracies said I use it for the streets n self defense.

1. the instructors who believe they run a cult and not a fitness club where they are PAID to help. 2. Injuries/illness 3. attitude of the club. If I don't trust your technique or to take me to the next level I will leave like I did at my club. (where no one wins shit any more and everyone decent has left and started their own club) 4. The price now. When I started was $30 a month and 5-10$ a class. Purple belts charge $200 a month for club membership... that can fuck right off. If I can beat you, why should I pay you...

Ryron is dead on!!!!!

This spoke to my soul. F Little Jimmy

Why having belts, when it creates so many problems? Maybe its better to change to a non-graduation system...

Thats why no gi is better. No belts soo less stress.

Belts...The best thing you can do and forget about what colour belt you are. They hold up your pants. Nothing more. Forget your belt and you will forget your ego.

The camera man needs to be fired!

I quit BJJ because I was sick of rolling with smelly sweaty dudes. Oh and that was after the 2nd class!

I quit because I wanted to die