The Night Lords and Alpha Legion are fully corrupted, bugger! Look at all the corrupted warband leaders in both Legions!!!

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Hey majorkill can you do a video on the people who lead the legions before their primarchs where found

If Night Lords willa be added to the game a new campaign with Night Lords vs Dark Angels could be awesome

The Night Lords did flee to the Eye of Terror, and while there are Alpha Legion warbands within the Eye, you are right that most never sought refuge there.

why i do see in the future that miost night lords will join to the inquisition than rather become full Chaos marines if given achoise

​@@no-nonseplayer6612they were the inquisition before it was a thing

The are chaos corrupted.

The full spectrum of Chaos worship is on display in the legion in 40k. Two of the bigger named characters we know of are full-on daemon princes leading large warbands. The entire point of the omnibus is to show how far Chaos corruption can spread in even just 50 years (how long First Claw subjectively experiences between Terra and the books). The Night Lords in the current setting are degenerate Chaos Marines to the same extent as any other legion or warband.

Pragmatic rather than libertarian. They’re degenerate monsters but even the night lords have standards

​@@Xynth25people seem very keen to give Night Lords credit where it isn't due for being anti chaos. It was really only a few notable characters who were vehemently against it

​@@Xynth25100 years also no they're not

@@TableGrables Yes, they very, *very much* are.

Slaanesh birth suggests otherwise

@@swarthygiant1463The Eldars are psychically more impactfull than humans, and more numerous than a single chaos space marin legion.

​@@florians9949psychotic is not psychic ya drongo

Good chaos legion? HERESY!

​@@florians9949 The Blood Gorgons for example are a traitor warband that's better and nicer than 80% of Imperium's chapters. Seriously a Chad Chaos warband, that's not really even that evil.

Yeah, the Night Lords and Chaos Knight are great examples of this to me. The Night Lords as mentioned actively choose to remain as a traitor legion rather than pledge to Chaos. Despite having been composed of the worst of the worst but they still had no interest in the machinations of Chaos. They just wanted revenge for what they believed to be a greater betrayal than they could ever commit. The Chaos Knights are a bit more fuzzy on this because the Infernal houses are a thing, they're just straight evil. But there's also the iconoclast houses who often fell because they decided the oaths they swore to the particular legion that found them couldn't be broken in good conscience. Kind of reminds me of corrupted Ogryns to a degree. They faithfully follow those they pledged themselves to into damnation.

@@SlaaneshM30 the soul drinkers were a loyalist chapter as well, that got tainted by chaos but still upheld the overall protection of the imperium as their first and foremost duty, even while being targeted by the imperium itself.

@@kieranadamson3224 The night lords spend their entire existence torturing and tormenting people for fun.It's literally all they do. They are WORSE than some chaos legions by a considerable margin. If you want an example of a "good" chaos legion, you could pick the world eaters and they'd still be better than the Night Lords.

alright let's make a crusade for this one

yes@@lordoblivion8038

Well, Dorne was both Impressed and Saddened by the Black Templar. Impressed as they outright ignored the codex and maintained legion strength while fighting constantly to protect the Imperium. Saddened because they reminded him of how Sigmund was. Staunch, unflinching, and willing to charge into any battle no matter the odds long as it was for the Imperium. There is one thing that impressed him more than anything else however, The Black Templar drill the Last Wall protocol into their members as an absolute rule. When the Fists call for aid, when the protocol signal is sent out, all crusades stop and every last Templar will make a direct path to Holy Terra. EVERY Templar will answer the call ASAP. The sheer volume of ships appearing around Terra would be enough to make a wall around it. The Fists are designed to hold ground, the Templar are designed to take ground. You put them together and working fluidly and you have a terrifying enemy.

Is 10 minutes enough time for that though?

Well damn im upvoting this, please make it my guy

Actually, it was a primarch power, much like Sanguinius, and Russ’s weird rune-foresight stuff.

​@@ElodieStarjemAnd Sang saw his own death snd he didn't go sicko mode

I wouldn't put it past the ruininous powers to have played that game with all of the more sensitive Primarchs to find weaknesses in their mental states.

More like the Emprah just fudged the geneseed with a bunch of crap to see what happens :D

thats actually interesting as hell and would make Konrad more tragic.

*Cough* Helbrect *cough*

Unfortunately for the thought of Sevatar in 40k, Astartes still age and wear down. Dante's the oldest alive today at just over 1000 and before the Rubicon he was getting to be almost decrepit, far from his prime. Unless GW fridges him in the Warp (which would have its own issues) Sevatar would be truly ancient.

@@Xynth25 Yeah Looking At Bjorn Dude's On Multiple Life Support Systems And Can Barely Move Around, Although He's In A Dreadnought.

Astartes in the Eye of Terror haven't aged nearly as much as their Loyalist brethren. Abby is the prime example.

@@Sweetness71775 Yes, but last we saw Sevatar was in custody of the Dark Angels. Fanon has him becoming the leader of a loyalist chapter, but we've got no concrete clue. He's either been executed as a traitor, died in combat as a loyalist in like M32, or he's a Dreadnaught.

@@Xynth25 , it's a thing to take in consideration, but remember that the eye of terror is not inside the warp. It's just a place where the barrier between both planes is really thin. Most traitors lived there after the heresy and stayed there until the fall of Cadia. Why I mention this? Because for these guys, these past 10k years have NOT been that long for them. 2 examples I could think are in the black legion books and Ahriman's series as well. In both, there's dialogue about how was for them when they travel outside the eye. What for Sigismund was almost 1thousand years, for the black legion was something like a decade or two. Unfortunately, most traitors have been "blessed" with chaos, which definitely extends their lifespan. Iron warriors and thousand sons are the least chaos imbued, and in both cases there are alive astartes who were part of the heresy. Given all of this, it's feasible for me to imagine a Sevatar aged like the lion is right now. Dreadnought I could almost confirm it's not the case, since in the nightlords books the unaccountable fate of Sevatar is present, and stuff like dreadnoughts are a thing that cannot be unknown, even for the madmen the NL are

Fear is a short term solution. Just look how well the fear based approach worked on Nostramo.

exept Lonrad might be alive as Sevetar might have shot that assassin before he gould kill Konrad Curse fully

@no-nonseplayer6612 Key term there MIGHT be and even then, it's a stretch. Magnus the Red on the other hand, is canonically active within the setting.

I wouldn’t call Magnus Psychopathic, maybe just because people always say that for mental illness and writing and it is really, really narrow minded. It lacks nuance. He doesn’t really have too many psychopathic traits. I would probably say it for Angron pre-fall, maybe, but not for Magnus. Also, Magnus didn’t do the Rubrics, that was Ahriman. And tbh, the fact that exists in the setting is among the dumber things in 40k tbh. Edit: Same for Konrad btw, even though he technically fits more. But Konrad also has some other traits that fit into other illnesses. And Konrad gets a partial pass because he sees visions basically all the time. I cant say with good logic and conscience he is a psychopath when you constantly see the future, but it is basically worse then Perturabo who saw the eye of terror since birth.

@@twenty-fifth420 i would say Magnus is troubled because hes still missing like 50% oh his shards so that also affects his wellbeing i think magnus at 80% would be more stable and interesting and probably trying to undo his Daemonication at some point

...........and..... although the Night Lords are all Mega Halloween, they don't depend on Warp magic as their main weapon.

Do it brother

No reason why they couldn't fight side by side. But like all chaos alliances it would be temporary until their interests once again diverge.

Bro the code has 3 reqs!

@@KumquatChampion 3 reqs? Sorry I don't know what you mean by that. EDIT- OK it just dawned on me by reqs you meant Requisition orders! That was really generous.

Holy shit they were generous with this code

The remaining night lords are scattered and divided. So it's not surprising that many succumb to chaos worship. Their Daddy is no longer around to keep them in line and none of them are willing to take up the mantel. When in the eye of terror do as the Chaos marines do.

there is nothing to suggest that curzes soul is inside of the corona nox, its fan lore, not real lore, curze is dead and gone

@@zachar40k That would be a shame as he is such an interesting character

DOES he believe that? Because he's wrong if he does.

It's just a fancy phrase for "thermal vision"

The Nightlords Omnibus has a navigator as one of the major POV characters. Idk of any other lore that focuses on Chaos navigators. Sorcerers are capable of guiding ships through the warp as well, so navigators may not be that common.

Actually, it's heavily implied that the primarchs were given life simultaneously. There's no connection between the legion # and their biological age. As a matter of fact, some legions precede their respective primarchs. The Lion is indeed connected to his # in the lore, but I would say it was by design. As big E had a role for each of them, giving the Lion the 1st legion to be under his command probably was to fulfill his position.

How could a legion, made with the geneseed of a primarch come before their primarch?

@@hl48 Cause the Primarchs where only in the gestation pods when the Geneseed was taken from them.

​@@matiashofmann6010It is stated that the Lion was the firstborn and the template all other Primarchs were based on. While some were definitely designed at the same time, some had a lot more work put into them than others. There's also the fact that the Emperor and Malcador decided to create redundancies which could probably help us understand what the lost Primarchs were meant to be.

@@starhammer5247 both of these statements are completly incorrect.

Nope not even close. Doesn't even need a video to explain that.

Why not? Ferrus Manus and the Iron Hands would be suited to the defence, Vulkan and the Salamanders would be well equipped to deal with Chaos in close quarters, Corvus and Raven Guard could harass them, all are strong primarchs, Vulkan is invincible, Horus said if he had Ferrus then the heresy would've been won. There'd be no War in the Webway. That's a hell of a lot of advantages.

@@samhobbs9116 Not to mention Vulkan would have all his technology which is insanely OP

​@@WhiteMoose211that's because Ferrus was a great leader and the Iron Hands were hyper efficient warriors, not because Ferrus was some Uber Primarch like Sanguinius. Sanguinius would literally win any fight he threw himself into because he was fated to die to Horus, Ferrus in this new canon isn't afforded anything beyond not getting clapped on Istvaan. Also, replacing the cool headed Rogal with the notoriously hot headed Ferrus would probably see the traitors win just because it took the cold autistic calculation of the Fists to barely hold Terra, anything less, let alone the opposite, would see mistakes made and exploited. Royal defeated Alpharius because he made himself so single minded and cold that nothing in the universe would deviate him from his plan. Nothing could be said to stop him. Ferrus on the other hand doesn't have anywhere near that level of self control. Next, I don't think Corvus could defeat Mortarion. Jaghatai had the endurance to match Morty's Plague and Nurglite buff, Corvus is just sneaky and skilled. Lastly, let's not forget the most crucial element to the Heresy: Alpharius and Omegon. As shown when the Emperor and Malcador war gamed the Heresy over and over, if the win was too one sided for the Imperium, they both rush to the palace and kill the Emperor. The Heresy was perfectly balanced, so even if they do win, they lose. The current outcome was THE BEST option.

@@alastor8091 Rogal would indeed be a loss for the loyalists in the defence but with the Webway closed really quickly, the Emperor is free to a) calm Ferrus down so he's more effective and b) could probably lead the defence himself if needs be. Also it's possible Corvus could defeat Mortarion, just may need to be smarter about it. I wasn't really asking this question in the context of the cabal prophecy etc either. I was more interested in the actual practicalities of whether the Istvaan V loyalists found themselves defending Terra, could they successfully defend it.

You get it.

@@richbattaglia5350 No you don't

When the death guard captain Garros told Dorn about Horus’ betrayal, he almost killed him due to blind love for his godlike brothers. Even before the heresy, Dorn thought highly of his brethren. It would definitely be in his character to doubt Kurze could snap and slice him up. Kurze got the drop on Dorn.