Ah yes, the first ever op on the block

Jews fighting imperialists is a classic.

@@Vanq22114 that's actually basically what that would have been, if any story like that even happened. It makes the story a whole lot less impressive, doesn't it? "God helped me shoot a really tall guy in the face" isn't a super profound, faith-inspiring story.

Imagine dieing to a rock glock

Fun fact, that story is bullshit, along with the rest of that magical book of primitive stupid.

Especially in ohio/detroit

Got one. Accidentally erased some alien civilization

Everyone needs a Milo.

Useful to hit the detonator

It’s the perfect christmas or birthday gift

Yeah there's a reason it was used in wars before war bows became more common. If you get hit straight on the head it is either a bad concussion, a skull fracture or straight up death. And head injuries in general are no joke. Just imagine getting bombarded with stones ranging from decent pebbles up to small fist size.

And know you know why soldiers shoot rock slingers sometimes... a proper sling used correctly is absolutely lethal

Yeah... slings are cool... the whip-snap thing is intentional... there is a tassel on the end to dissipate the energy in the rope and prevent it hurting you as it swings around...

People see David and Goliath being an amazing tale of how someone could possibly fell a giant with a sling...then you see a sling in action from someone properly proficient and you're like. "Oh. Yeah that would do it."

@@StealthMarmot_ I'd still prefer proper bows in war but if you have nothing else and a lot of people already proficient with it? Yeah. Not a lot of training, ammunition is easy to replenish and in a time where full body armour was pretty rare it can be pretty effective even if it only hurts if it hits even basic armour. If it hits fingers, breaks rips or toes that is already a big hindrance for the guys that have to go into melee like that.

its the ghosts of long dead ancestors telling you to get better at it, back in their day they were cracking skulls at 1000 paces with pebbles.

we never did this at boy scouts, and I'm really questioning why.

The twine was braided together.

Yes

Thats the best excuse to touch grass in my opinion

Go sling some rocks, you got this buddy

I dodged that one. When I saw the title a good spot almost immediately entered my mind. It´s an abandoned quarry for limestone. It features an abundant supply of ammo and a reasonable backstop. You might find some nice fossils too. It puzzled me a little that had a braided sling within arm´s reach though.

When the enthusiasm is infectious, and also squarely centered on the art of violence. This makes me want to find out just how good I can get with it, and how much damage a 12 gauge musket ball can do to a tin can on the other end of my yard.

If rock slings are outlawed... only us outlaws will have rock slings !!!!

checking in 7 months later do u have a rock sling

Same here like I’m going to make one

Sure you do. You just haven't assembled it yet.

Thank you for this comment!

Well that sounds terrifying. Even if it only hit your leg I'm sure that would fuck you up royally.

And sometimes wet clay would be used. It didn't tend to ricochet, and on a good hit, would put 100% of it's force into the target.

@@artor9175 all this makes me think that a sling should do considerably more than 1d4 damage in dnd.

@@elizataylor1726 Actually tho-- I've heard it said that a sling could punch right through a helm where an arrow normally couldn't.

​​​​​@@elizataylor1726 honestly there should be a "war sling" as a martial weapon. it would deal 1d6 bludgeoning (1d8 bludgeoning if you use magic stones), and have a range of 120-480 ft. It'd probably be about 10 gp.

Ha nice

Knitter here. Came here to give + to this comment. Braided cords are more balanced.

Hihi, is a seven chord braid better? There's a fancy flat braid...what army had the best sling. , Is there a late roman design that got extra popular with the slingers?

@@tomgucwa7319 I'm not very well-read on the history of slings, my knowledge of them comes from personal experience making and using them. A seven strand braid would be very good. It would have excellent durability, and would be very stable in the swing. I prefer to use a six strand braid, as I've found that you get diminishing returns beyond that. It comes down to preference, though. I would absolutely encourage you to try out the seven strand if you plan to make your own.

@@tomgucwa7319 depends on string thickness, I've made a few berlaric slings, the best for me is 3 strand for the finger loop into a 6 strand, add 4 (or fold 2 longer in half into) about 4 inches before pouch giving 6 strands on both sides when you split it, make pouch about a hands width, brade 4 shorter strands out after brading back together and slowly remove strands until only 3 are left giving it a tapered finish. Knot it off however you want and add whip cracker to end for a good snap if you want.

@@dovahbear0 God that name is cultured

That is very interesting! It seems like doing one rotation would actually gain you a lot more control than spinning it repeatedly. Makes you wonder how good at this someone in a sling corp would be. Would not want to be on the receiving end of that.

@@miniminuteman773the paper indicated that they got their best range & accuracy on single revolution throws. I'll look around to see if I still have a copy of that paper. (I got it from one of the online college paper archives.)

Yeah I did think the tech was more of an elliptical motion where you pass the sling from bottom right resting, up and over your left shoulder, behind your back, and back over your right shoulder, releasing at full arm extension pointing roughly where you want it to go, depending on range. Maintaining as close a radius to your head as possible with your hand holding the string. However, I don't throw slings, I may just be making this up from some long ago misremembered piece of material.

@@miniminuteman773 As someone that has done some slinging in the past it is indeed much easier to control with one rotation. Spinning is used to hold your shot at the ready. Such as when waiting for a rabbit to poke its head out.

That would make sense on the clay/iron/metal, assumedly kilned after to make something knobular, would make any part of the surface a more direct impact rather than full circle glancing or a flatter one tending to go either left-right. More accurate and more force applied to what it hits!

Potty

And stealing large amounts of industrial mining explosives to systematically destroy multiple goverment buildings.

Being friendly with a local bumblebee is endearing.

Do you not go outside at all? Your acting like what he is doing is outside the realm of reality, yet he isn't doing that hasn't been done.

@@poop464it was just a compliment dude :(

2A BABY COME AND TAKE EM* 😤😤😤 *my rock sling

4 philistine ruffians break into my Bronze Age judean home…

I use a spear like intended you degenerates with your ranged assault weapons. You'll overshoot and hurt someone.

@@miniminuteman773 From my cold dead hands

@@miniminuteman773 MERICA

We have to get this to top comment!

Another reason aside from the video for me to make a sling. Having a technique to focus on and practice will help

Lol you sound like my uncle trying to tell me how to caste my fishing line.... which means it's probably good advice, but my body hasn't quite made sense of it yet.

Keep your head down, don't look up early, grip correctly, align your shot....oh wait, that's golf. Nevermind

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor I think this has something to do with the visually obvious fact that, despite getting the bullet going around a vertical axis, when he releases it his arm follows through in a horizontal fashion, it feels like there must be some loss of momentum or accuracy or both because there seems to be a disconnect between building up momentum and letting it go...I probably didn't describe that properly but I think you know what I mean...

@@Manny_Coon If you try actually getting the stone to a specific point, it becomes clear very soon that letting it circle for several turns does make you lose a bit of control because you can't well focus on keeping the circle clean and on where you want the stone to go. More importantly, however, is that you don't alert the game to yourself sooner than necessary through the sound of the sling, the sound of it slamming against vegetation while circling and the obvious noticeable movement. My comment was specifically relevant to the use in battle, however.

Most modern sling techniques only recommend once or twice and then the release for this exact reason. Still practicing here but it seems to be about right.

Interesting. How are we able to tell that?

There are many methodologies and there is no singular "historically accurate" way to use a sling. AFAIK, different methodologies will ebb, flow and slack within any given civilization over generational timeframes, much like fashion.

​@@ruffus910 If you're unhappy with the length of this, remember that you're the one who asked. And in case this reads a bit odd at times: I'm actively trying to avoid expressions and words that would prompt the bots that run this site to auto-unmake this comment. Seen it before when talking about things that have edges and how one might use them throughout history, if you know what I mean. I'll have to go to Pritchett's _The Greek State at War_ in the uni library for the exact Classical source citations (and I will), but for now, you can take a look at the ancient artistic sources like Trajan's column for contextual reasons they could only be used over-head, or Greek (especially Boiotian and Corinthian, also in smaller number Attic) pottery art for clear depictions of use. The pottery rarely depicts slingers since the hoplite was of course the ideal, but there's one exception, namely Heracles and the Stymphalian Birds. In some earlier Greek versions of the myth, he uses a sling instead of a bow, and this image can be found in several 6th- and 5th-century depictions. There are several earlier depictions of, for instance, Assyrian origin which to me suggest the over-head use as well, but since those slings are almost in one line with the arm and behind the head, people could theoretically argue that that may just be circling beside the body as well, so I'll leave that there. A pretty well-known example is a fragment from the relief depicting the siege of Lachish in 701 BC. The body position you find on there is pretty much the standard and only position for slingers to be depicted in all of Assyrian, Hittite and Egyptian art, since their reliefs were highly formulaic and went to identical depictions as expression of habitus. As for the contextual reasons: Trajan's column shows slingers in formation, carrying a clipeus (very clearly not a smaller or oval pelta or thyreos, which one might have argued _may_ have offered the option of using it to its side) in the left, meaning they had literally no other option than to do it over-head. From lighter slingers that didn't use shields, mainly from the Hellenistic period, the very few fragments that exist talking about slingers mention them emerging from the phalanx and falling to their knees, which is found on a few Hellenistic reliefs showing slingers, presumably to be a smaller point for the opposing skirmishers while out in front of the phalanx unprotected. While kneeling, pretty much the only option is to go over-head. Hellenistic mentions of mounted akrobolistai (skirmishers, involving bowmen, javelinmen and slingers) also leave mainly an over-head or at the very least semi-over-head sling as the option, considering how broad a horse's back is. We also know that they were used very prominently in sieges, especially of Celtic oppida and other fortifications, by the defenders, again leaving you little choice if you want to use it from behind a chest-high wall on someone below. As for the single-head spin, like I said, doing it more than once does make you lose control of the sling while circling. People like to say that, if you give it one more go, you can get maybe 400 meters out of it on reach. Problem is: Name me instances of skirmishers engaging over that distance. That's not how this was generally done in Antiquity. Skirmishers engaged the main line and largely one another en bloc. You're getting your go the same time as archers and javelinmen. And as long as opposing skirmishers are there, they are your primary opponents, not usually the hoplites. People tend to think of slingers as this highly specialised group of people, but keep in mind that, really, aside from these very small groups from the Balearic islands and so on, being a slinger was the way for ancient poleis to bring their poorest citizens who couldn't afford a hoplon to do their duty as citizens. Basically the only place there was another option was the period from Greek Classical to Roman imperial times in Greek poleis, where being a rower became the alternative. The point being that these were by and large light citizens who were supposed to engage the light citizens of the opponent as their way of service to the state, not as specialists who would pick off members of the main line of hoplites. Ancient skirmishes were mass events happening at semi-close range as a sort of pre-event to the main lines engaging one another, negating this narrative that you need as large a range as possible to be able to go for the main line as early as possible. Only exception in which range is valued: sieges. The only exception that I have ever seen mentioned to these smaller-range engagements in the open field is the use of machines from the scorpio / polybolos and gastraphetes families (plus proper siege equipment, obviously) as well as Late Ancient and highly regional mounted archers and javelinmen, who kept maximum distance while engaging unscreened infantry (Huns, Cantabrians (hence Cantabrian circle tactics) etc.). Keep in mind, by the way, that, as we approach Late Antiquity, the use of slingers also declines drastically as armour is provided by the state and it's less and later not at all about being required to do your duty to the state. I'll post again once I've had the time to go for Pritchett in the library.

*distance "ow, wtf"*

neolithic engineering

Surf fishing uses a similar technique, with the flexibility of the rod adding some extra strength to the swing, so you can yeet large (50g+) weights and baits upwards of a hundred meters.

That's what I was thinking

Iconic

All human war tech really is finding better ways to fling rocks lol

Just imagined some poor dog getting betrayed

@@rudeskalamander just imagining a poor dog getting pelted ;0

@@rudeskalamander ​ I did hit my dog with a tenis ball, but not on the throw, on the spin up it fell out of the pouch (thats when I switched to the above construction technique)

In medieval period there was variation of sling on stick. Kinda fun shoot from that.

@@petrfedor1851 Yeap, but sling staffs don't need a spin up, you just flick the rock, which means that you need a secure strap pouch (a wide strap is good enough) and allows you to use a bigger rock. It's basicly an arm powered trebuchette

Maybe woven baskets as the sling? And you could have them sling some of the other trebuchet payloads, like loosely bundled arrows, or skins (or even barrels) of oil or tar to be followed by a smoldering oily rag in a clay pot (the clay pot gives the rag velocity, and protects the flame from going out, and breaks on impact, giving light to the oil or tar).

@@nela9994 I like the idea of them using a barrel of tar with a cloth, almost like a giant's version of molotov cocktail

@@kaydenlauman6713 that, and giving the giants atlatls to throw basically ship masts. (Lebanon cedar trees were very much in demand for their long, straight, tall, trunks, for that reason.)

Mythrill pillaged from the dwarves!

Wrought-iron chains date to about 200BCE, they'd probably make a plausible giant's sling. As for the rock-pouch, wicker/rattan is remarkably light, strong and flexible. Maybe sandwich it between leather and thin iron bands to provide support.

That's a bit of an understatement 😅 By that logic, Godzilla is a relatively grumpy gecko 😁

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen being _relatively_ proficient doesnt exclude the possibility of being _very_ proficient. It's two different ways of describing something, that dont deny eachother, they can both be used and both be true. "Relatively" simply puts it in relation to something else, it's a comparison. That doesn't deny or lessen the fact that they were very proficient. So yes, Godzilla was a relatively grumpy gecko compared to other geckos, but also a very grumpy gecko in general.

@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen "Godzilla is a relatively grumpy gecko" is now my new catchphrase, thankyou🤣

I live in Michigan. You get 3 months of good weather?? Lucky!

@@thedyingmeme6 it’s really weird, the weather is completely dependent on the temperamental nature of Lake Erie. It’s not uncommon to have a Week in buffalo that’s all like 15º with one random day at 55º. The wind is a constant though

It's pretty much preference if you spin it or not now. Just that back in the day, being a merc in a war. Spinning can grant you the ability to have ammo ready while you run on rocky terrain (centerfugal force keeps it tack on the pounch) while having a shield on the left arm, dodging incoming arrows.

This makes me afraid of you

Это не так. Единственный мах не может дать максимальную скорость камню, желательно перед этим сделать хотя бы 1-2 взмаха, чтоб у камня уже была энергия, тогда выстрел гораздо сильнее. А что касаемо точности, то это субъективно и для каждого различно, по крайней мере моя точность выше после пары оборотов.

Wish I had read comments before posting mine just now. You are exactly right. The rotation was rarely used at all. The exception was a slow rotation to have a faster release. Or an hard rotation to get distance off a tower in a siege situation. You didn't need to be accurate when there are 1000 soldiers in a group trying to climb your walls.

​@@aldrinmilespartosa1578If it's just to keep it in the pouch, you could probably use a lower speed and only ramp it up when you're ready to fire. I imagine that would preserve most benefits of the one-spin style.

WOW

That’s really cool, I wouldn’t have guessed that goats understand the concept of a warning shot

​@@poe_slawGoats are smart, friendly, loyal, adorable, and delicious. If they weren't always trying to eat everything they can reach, they'd be the perfect animal.

@@renatocorvaro6924 and you can milk them, and spin their fur ...

Where? Sounds like someth8ng my dad would tell me happened in El Salvador

Because it isn't. He is genuinely having fun and genuinely talking to the people watching.

I commend you; I tanned my first hide this year and I've decided that leatherwork is icky and it smells bad.

Beautifully described and completely sensible suggestion.

​@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor it sure smell bad, useless history fact, it smell so bad that during the medieval era in europe tanners usually lived and worked in the outskirt of towns, and since hygene wasnt as good tanners also smelled really bad so everyone tried to avoid them lol :(

@@FirelixGaming I only tanned one hide, I can't imagine what the smell is like when you're doing 1,000s of them...

tbf old time tanners etc had vats of pee standing to form ammonia to strip fats and grease from hides, also poop had a function (not sure what it was) and other fun stinky stuff... tanning was (and still is to a degree) a foul process@@FirelixGaming

I know, that drop looks so deceptively small from a distance but it would probably pulverize every bone in your body

First he's got the aesthetic sensibilities of a gay pirate, now he looks like an Italian rock throwing crackhead, what's next?

what song is ittt

is it beyond the sea but the og french version?

@@alexwisniewski2309 La Vie En Rose i think

​@@alexwisniewski2309it's la vie en rose!! :)

Projectile speed is directly proportional to rotational kinetic energy of the projectile. Rotational kinetic energy is directly proportional to mass and radius but proportional to the square of angular velocity. In other words, twice as heavy hits you twice as hard but twice the spinny hits you four times as hard. So, yes, spin it faster, it goes farther and hits harder. However, angular velocity is also effected by radius: shorter radius, smaller velocity. So there's a compromise between spin speed and radius length. But there's also only so much power a human arm can expect to expend on the toss. Further, a human arm has a natural resonance, limiting the spectra of radii. That resonance is determined by arm length and muscle twitch speed. So the perfect length is different from person to person. This is why it's important for you to make your own... Again and again, and again, and again.....

Ye!

That means the world dawg I really appreciate it. That video was a BLAST to make. It was a cool opportunity to add a lot of atmosphere to a video that I wouldn’t normally get to do in front of a blackboard. Scotland sounds like it would put our ruins here to shame. We may have our fair share of mills and stone walls but if you come across a castle out here you are either horribly lost or hallucinating. Sending good exploring fortune your way, my friend 💪

Ad Victoriam, brother, from Canada.

YOOOO LETS HAVE A DUAL!

Can i join? I have no idea how to do it but i wanna learn

Username and pfp 🙇🏻‍♀️❤️🖤

@@chatnoir9038 ikr? 10/10 on this lad 🏴

@@chatnoir9038 that may be related to why i want to learn how to use a sling, can’t confirm or deny 🤭

I was thinking that when reviewing the footage. A working title for this video between me and my editor was "throwing rocks for 30 minutes."

That's racist.

@@WeAreInYourWall how

@@ubi0477 I was shocked too.

@@WeAreInYourWall sure buddy 🤣

Milo's Misadventures

@@spacedoglaika1079 that's fantastic too :D

I’d give you grant money for this 😂

@@dsklizzle Is that an offer 👀

You're on the right track here, the longest range slings that people are making/using nowadays are generally made to be as light and as long as possible, with the length making it such that people are spinning them around their entire bodies in a completely different style to how one would normally use a smaller sling. I'm a slinger myself and I've seen a couple videos on here of people using these super long-range slings but they can be hard to find iirc

@@L0ngfang thanks for the input! I've definitely got the theory but your practice is 10x more valuable in my eyes

Mechanic engineering major here and singer going on 15 years of experience. There is absolutely some sort a relationship between sling length and projectile mass. The longest distances I've gotten were about 310m and I was using a sling that was about my shoulder length to the ground with a stone in. That was the longest I could manage. Projectiles were natural bipoint river stones, about 40-50g in mass. Sling was two strands of Paracord with about 8cm of overlap in the middle to make a split string pouch and secured with wire that was twisted tight with pliers to bite into the strings and prevent slippage. The main issue a that point was air resistance on the strings. I always wanted to make one with really thin strings (high test kevlar for a surgical garotte looks appealing) and then I'd also love to lead projectiles for max distance. For comparison my casual slings are about half my wingspan, still just a simple Paracord split string pouch. I don't usually throw for accuracy so Ill take just about anything between 40g and 150g as long as it fits in the pouch okay.

Jesus fucking Christ that’s scary

@LyzergideDaydreaming not as much as you think. The rock didn't go all the way through. Just punctured it and bounced off

@@scratch1237 I mean still that could probably kill a person, and imagine the damage if it was smth like a child’s skull

Same. Watching boys throw rocks was never my favorite thing, but when Milo does it, I am somehow entertained

That's unfortunately KZfaq's choice whether you get one at the beginning, not the creator's.

(For where i am) functionally the darts are the hardest part to get right unless you live near bamboo or river cane (which isnt native to my country) they need to be and (relatively) light, thin and long but also strong enough not to noodle as soon as attempt to throw it like with what which hazel does unless you find the perfect stave at the right stage of development and then season it for a month or two.

a kindred heart found in the wild 0-0

Okay, Dondalar

Oh my gosh! 😍 Earths Children book club! Was there ever a movie made? 🤔

I used to make the pockets out of denim from trashed jeans when I was teen. Fast and free lol.

Yup, there's a reason why they used staff slings all the way through the middle ages... the leverage really helps.

Their slingers were also mostly shepherds. The slings were for entertainment to pass the time and as a means to driver off predators or cattle thieves. Basically they would stone sling targets to kill their boredom, hence why they got so good...and their was never a shortage of lose throwing rocks on the hills of Crete, etc.

@@brokeandtired Idk about boredom, but they sure AF would wanna put a little meat in the pot for their dinner -ergo they would continually be hunting small game. Rabbits, birds, and so on.

They were also hired in ww2 or ww1 to act as impromptu mortar teams via slings and grenades

@@tactiti0n when you ain't got fuck all to do except watching sheep, you're gonna kill time with your sling...boredom yes.

They also used multiple lengths of slings as well when they fought depending on the distance they were skirmishing at.