This man is one 40 percent away from making custom keeb content.

This controller exists as an excuse for Bob to waste 19 minutes

Bob is gonna need to be more careful about his keyswitch takes. Especially what he's calling "tacticle" and "clicky". The keyboard nerds are gonna come in here looking for blood.

Bob is like one step away from becoming a custom keyboard guy who has like 20+ keyboards just for fun

Bob’s sponsorship has more production quality than the game itself!!

The person who I've seen use this the most is actually a tetris player. His name is Wumbotize and he uses it to play Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 and Tetris 99.

"This is my dog Roo who's enhancing the shot." is more like it.

"Browns give a big fat click" Oh boy. Browns have a bump in them, not a click bar. They're supposed to feel "tactile" without being loud. Also if you like browns in general, I have the browns for the keychron k3 and when they come up for sale again I'd highly recommend them. If you like clicky, my roommates like the oranges the best.

You’re not missing anything with this keyboard. It’s awfully trying to be a versatile custom controller but at that point, as you said, get a full keyboard. Also saying that brown switches have a click, Bob you’re still not at the point of no return from keyboard addiction, now is your chance.

The ads and the intros are just getting both comically and visually better, I love it

"Why are they so expensive? They are just keyboards." Keyboards are expensive Bob.

Never thought I would see him play a rhythm game

"This is my dog Roo who's ruining the shot." EXCUUUSE ME!? You surely meant "perfecting"! So adorable

This is actually a pretty good beginner's controller for rhythm gamers! You noted that on the Gamo2 website that there are lots of game specific controllers, however I don't think you really noticed the prices. The K-28 is by far one of the cheaper rhythm game controllers on the market, and it allows for use between multiple games. Yeah, rhythm gamers usually have that one game we absolutely love, but who doesn't want to take a break from Bemani style games every now and then to play Groove Coaster or something else for a week? More than likely, the game specific controller wouldn't work well with another game. A Sound Voltex controller works well with 4b and 6b games, but if you wanted to play 8b, Pop'n Music, Beatmania, Groove Coaster, Project Diva, etc. you're out of luck. I think that if you are interested in rhythm gaming, but don't feel comfortable in dropping your money into an expensive game specific controller, or an expensive multi-game controller, like the EZMAX controller I personally use, then this is a nice middle ground.

So, how much longer till Bob just starts gaming on a PC with keyboard and mouse?

Typically I like to use a more recognizable switch-Wulff Den Proceeds to use red Mahhhhrio switch with silver metal joycons

I like how people in the chats are screaming STOP

*Nintendo releases Super Mario Party online multiplayer update* A few days later: "What do you want me to do, make a Mario Party video? Nothing's going on right now."

Having a keyboard is super useful for Muse Dash because higher difficulties require you to really drum the buttons a lot. Sure, there's only two inputs required but you'll want multiple buttons for each when they start throwing absurd lines of notes at you.

Bobby. My boy, we’re good on the keyboard/fight pads. Thanks for the content but we good good homie.

You are entirely correct. I'm one of those Fighting Game people and this controller was perfect for me. Having grown up playing emulator games on computer, I got so used to using directional buttons using my right hand (i.e. arrow keys) instead of my left which is the norm. Most Hitbox and Mixbox configurations have it set so the direction keys are done by the left hand and in order for me to compete in locals, I have to use a keyboard + converter + my own configuration so that I can use the arrow keys. This controller bypasses all that since I can just use its custom layout then it's plug and play for any ps4/switch and it's perfect.

The dynamic between you and your dog makes me happy I'm alive. The video was good too.

Beautiful cinematography. Informative and humorous content. Keep that trinity growing man. Kudos

yeah, Bob is more and more into keyboard stuff, I'm almost seen he doing his first custom mechanical keyboard

9:15 Omg we thought we were the only ones that talked like that in our head

I REALLY want to play Mario on Switch with a keyboard, so God bless these videos. Heya viewers, by the way. I hope you’re all having a good day

I have one, I enjoy it more for fighting games and mostly Tetris, the option to even customize my own layout is what drew me to it and it's design looks pleasing

you're right to say that rhythm gamers do want very specific controllers for the games they play but most of us play a whole bunch of games me personally I play 8 different games consistently, with the prices of arcade style controllers for rhythm games being around $300-$800 usually depending on the game buying 8 controllers is a hard sell and they take up a lot of room so having one controller that is super versatile even though it isn't perfect is a much better option for a lot of people.

You’d be surprised how intense inputs for Rhythm games can get, especially on Muse Dash. Rhythm games players have very different taste on what they like to play on

Literally just finished watching the VOD and here we are

Bring on all the quirky controller accessories!

you should know what you're missing it's plastered all over the webpage for this device. it's for rhythm gamers who want a plug and play option for taiko, miku, and djmax and can be used on switch for the same games + groove coaster and tetris. easy to understand.

It's mainly for rhythm games. Even on PC, it's sometimes nice to have a dedicated controller/keyboard. Various reasons include the fact that the keys on this one are laid out slightly different which works better for various games, or the fact that I beat really hard on my keyboard during rhythm games and I want to spare my man keyboard

I just bought the kx adapter and bought a $40 Steelseries keyboard and it functions just fine.

14:10 Me: *sees a rectangle and an arrow on the light display* Bob: "The square indicates left stick." Me: "Thanks Bob. I definitely understand."

The minimalist that loves extremely small keyboards in me kinda loves this concept honestly. Might have to get one to try for myself

You're the only KZfaqr whose sponsorships I don't skip because you make it entertaining

"Why..." do you always play the raddest of rad tunes in your intros? I love them!

You finally sold me on a Keyboard controller, Bob. Had never considered the application for rhythm games but now I want this: Basically the appeal here, especially with games like Taiko & Muse Dash that utilize only a couple buttons, is that having multiple keys for the input is HUGE for faster sections & higher difficulties, allowing multiple presses much faster than mashing a single button. I want it, but wonder if I could rig a cheaper solution to do the same thing.

Bob! Get keycaps to replace the ones it came with. the directionals wont change and if you are only on switch the buttons should stay the same You can get your own designed keycaps

In the subtitles when talking about the d-pad @ 13:50 it had bleep when you didn't censor the word. You straight up said it lol.

Just thought I’d write this for anyone curious. Dampeners wouldn’t ruin tactile switches as tactile switches are meant to give you a bump when the switch actuates. Dampeners would soften out the bottom out feeling though it’s kinda mixed due to making it feel more like a membrane on bottom out

Even useless controllers are an aesthetic on Wulff Den

It's a controller geared towards rhythm game players but ironically it sucks for high level rhythm game players, as the refresh rate of the keyboard is kinda abysmal (or at least was, dunno if that's been fixed yet)

Nobody does sponsored ads better than WULFF DEN lmao I'd watch a compilation of those by themselves XD

Pellet gun owners: ...Why does this controller exist?

the pause for doggo to scratch up the floor made my day😂

The reds and browns will sound similar just so people know. Blue is the ones with click. Red and brown make noise from the key bottoming out and the up stroke. Blue makes noise at bottom out and upstroke as well with the addition of a click bar/jacket that makes a high pitched click. Browns just have a tactile bump that you can feel in the keystroke to avoid accidental keypress and no click bar to be more silent than blues. Reds are just up and down with no tactile bump or click bar ( easy to press by mistake).

Video editing is getting AMAZING 👏🙌🙌🙌

here before wulff becomes a keyboard content creator

Odd expensive switch accessories are kind of my shit. Also important PSA that I discovered yesterday. Ground loop noise isolators fix the static that comes through the switch headphone jack when docked. Maybe worth a video? It saved me from buying yet another external dac, which is really hard for the switch since very few are compatible.

As a rhythm game player, trust me, there is serious benefit to a keyboard type controller for Muse Dash when you get to higher level play. I've never used one for project diva but I think that it could have benefit there as well

O-rings under red switches or clears is actually pure bliss. That's the first thing I always add when getting a non-tactile keyboard.

there is a good reason why people would prefer this on PC rhythm game over standard keyboard: the layout for example, if you play DJMAX Respect where you need 8 buttons laid out in a fashion you won't mispress, standard keyboard isn't really a good option (worse if you have TKL or compact one like 75% or 60%), Gamo2 mitigates the issue by having only the necessary buttons on the keyboard, reducing the issue in pressing the wrong buttons but that will mostly depends from person to person as I know some can do just fine with standard full-layout keyboard, I personally prefer Gamo2 to prevent me from pressing wrong buttons and the reason why it's also advertised for Osu is the Osu!Mania mode where it plays pretty much like O2jam / DJMAX, it makes no sense to use the board in standard EBA / Ouendan as it doesn't need anything more than two keys.

is this what i’ve been looking for my entire life??

At this point I can imagine Bob having a keyboard next to bed so that he can click to sleep.

The lights in the middle made me immediately think of the jewels in a 16 bit puzzler like Columns II. I want to eat them.

Yes, I wanted you to make a Mario party video, something is going on right now about it That aged well

I gotta say I have this keyboard (and coincidentally reviewed this a while ago) and I love this thing. It's so cute and stylish. Yeah this keyboard doesn't have hot-swappable switches because switches are soldered onto the PCB. If you wanted to swap switches you could disassemble it and desolder the switches. Not recommended and would probably void your warranty. And yeah you can use a keyboard instead of a K28 on PC but I feel the ortholinear layout is better suited to rhythm games than... well your standard layout keyboards. And yeah, you could get a keyboard but most keyboards don't emulate Nintendo Switch or PS3/PS4 controls. It sounds like I'm just an apologist for this thing but I really do enjoy using it. And this is someone who's used a variety of keyboards, controllers, and alternative control methods as well.

I have a Gamo 2 with Reds and have been using it for a few years it's hands down the best keyboard controller for switch imho because the large spaced icons it helps with Rhythm games Taiko, Voez, Deemo and Project Diva the best for it Muse Dash has some rhythm syncing issue with it's controls the inputs in some of the songs don't really follow the rhythm of the song on switch. It played better on steam. You can use it with many other games other than what is supported and it's amazing for Tetris 99. You have such a huge advantage using it to play Tetris. I use it a lot with Megaman Anniversary and Street Fighter 30th as well. You can move the smaller space bars to other locations too which makes it SO much better to have the larger buttons for things like combos etc.

Never thought I’d see a controller from Gamo2 on this channel. I have a few of their arcade style controllers, great stuff.

i’m surprised there aren’t more midi programs on the eShop with controllers like this on the market

as a Rhythm Gamer: a lot of us actually like to play a diverse set of games! and a lot of us really prefer the versatility and feel of a keyboard to having to buy a ton of expensive arcade controllers for every game we like, so this controller is really nice for that while being a little better put together for rhythm games than a normal keyboard. Having as many keys as it does is just so that there are lots of options for setting it up in a comfortable way

That Switch sure does look slick.

Shocked that my last comment was recommending this and now where here 😂 This definitely is for those who play a mix of ps4/switch and those looking to play alot more than just one game. It's a bit of work to set up for sure but does work really well once it's set up. I prefer mostly Project Diva and Tetris with this and I love playing with it. I'm a fighting game player mostly though and whilst it does work and is ok to play on a fightstick or hitbox style is so much better for fighting games. A bit of software for this keyboard is seriously needed, if it had it I honestly think it would change the user experience massively!

I think its not marketed towards fighting games cause sticks are the superior product for the same price or less. Quarter, half, and full circle inputs may end up getting dropped due to how close all of the keys are. Might accidentally graze unintentional inputs on the way. As always, great video!

I love that he is talking about rythm games, muse dash is absolutely fantastic

Two agreed-upon features that a fighting game controller MUST have is that the "up" input takes priority over the "down" one, instead the "left" and "right" cancel against each other. This is to prevent left+right blocking and down-charging while walking, among other things. If this is not possible on this device, then a fighting game enthusiast could use it at home, but he or she would have an unfair advantage and wouldn't be able to bring it to a tournament.

I dunno if Taiko is really the game for this controller. Games like DJMax and Project Diva. On the switch though I dunno why you would need that. Even so I don't even want clicky buttons for music games, I play DJ max and Project diva on keyboard, but I use linear optical switches that are super light to trigger so I don't have to push down a lot. At least for me thats what I like.

Man, this video explained about 15 things I was looking for; I just didn't have the names to look up for myself.

i have a keychron keyboard like that (16:47) but the tenkeyless version. i use for business and gaming. good for both. always wanted low profile switches, and now i have it. now i think i'm spoiled and may not go back to those tall key caps.

another Bob video on a controller and another controller I will add to my setup...thanks a lot Bob

"Nothing's going on right now" 😂😂😂sooo true

Man just got the 8bit do arcade stick you gonna make me go broke man.

Love how excited he was about getting Luke 🤣👍

I kinda love this. Was looking maybe doing the arcade stick mod but I might get this instead. Even though it ends up being about $240 here in Australia after shipping

For me, this controller is a great compact Hitbox style controller that I can also use for PC shortcuts. While there are other Hitboxes on the market (I even made my own out of solid walnut), and other compact solutions like the Snackbox Micro, this offers a degree of customization, portability, and sturdiness that can't be found in other Hitboxes. I wanted something small that I could bring to tournaments while also having SOCD cleaning and native support to be tournament legal, but I can also customize the keys and dampen the sound. I live in a loft with 30ft ceilings and even silent Sanaa buttons are LOUD and echo. These plus dampeners let me play quietly while still meeting my other requirements. It also just looks dope and I'll probably snag an artisan cap or two for fun. For me it's like if you're a keeb weeb AND a fighting game player who doesn't always play on stick, this is a meat product. Would I recommend it? Hell no lol but it's cool none the less

Loved the the video, and you kinda touched on this at the end but is there any cheaper way to use my keyboard on my switch. Just bought a solid mechanical keyboard and I’d love to use it on the switch without the mapper. Are there are drivers or cheaper options?

Going to be honest. Your video effects are some of the best compared to others who do videogame "review" content. Two thumbs up

I wonder if this would be good for Amplitude since you mention it's intended for rhythm games. I've been considering controllers a lot since your custom keyboard controller video

Gotta agree that the lack of proper visuals for keys is highly confusing. I wish they gave you stickers with it. Thanks for reviewing this :)

Haven’t even watched the video, but the orange switch is so clean!

I have this controller and use it for pretty much everything, I play fighting games and it plays fighting games fine as a hitbox or mixbox although I have a full sized hitbox if I am playing serious. I mainly use it for music games obviously, DJMax especially and I have every single music game on the switch and ps4 so gets a lot of use on taiko, miku, groovecoaster. I got my moneys worth for it, I even rebinded it for jRPG on the switch

who is Rue? i only know production dog lol great video as always bob!

This controller was mainly made for DJMAX games and as a fan I'm tempted to buy it. I don't really play on my ps4 anymore and moved to my gaming laptop. I don't type and mainly play games using a dualshock4 so I never needed an external keyboard. A small portable mini-keyboard with mirrored sides like this just to play rhythm games seems like a perfect fit for me. I do have the drum controller for Taiko but on Hard and Oni difficulty songs I'm kinda annoyed that you barely have any time to lift the sticks to hit again, while on a keyboard like this your fingers are already on the 4 buttons you need to press, so it feels more comfortable and I score much better. Of course i could just buy an external gaming keyboard but even the smallest one is still too big for my table. Having an option is always good.

Map both the "space bars" as "Up" and it'll be kinda like a hitbox!

Rhythm games like djmax, Acraea, and other 4k-7k style games take lots of buttons. if you're playing stuff like musedash those are what the bigger buttons are intended for. (Also linears are very good for gaming cause they actuate better but clicky make my brain happy)

This controller is best used for games like DJMax Respect and Musynx. Try those with this controller and then you'll understand why this exists.

Your dog knows who the real star of the show is.

Thought the grill was a speaker at first before it lit up.

Love your vids. I have the keychron k4 for my pc great for work but only a looney would use it for Mario.

Hell yeah, muse dash. I'm tempted to make you a custom Muse Dash controller.

Missed opportunity - you should have timed the drop with plugging the controller

Didn't expect Wulff Den to review this keyboard in particular. I've seen some other K28 reviews before and apparently there's some high inconsistency with the polling rates in certain builds, some being 125hz and some being 66hz (my model in particular comes at a 100hz), I'm not knowledged in keyboard stuff like this so apologies if I'm wrong

I am more than happy with the regular Switch joycons, have zero need or interest in something like this, but this was still a very interesting video! Nice job, Bob! :D

Lol @ 6:26 “He’s gonna break a keyboard in real time”

Didn't think i'd see you review ANYTHING from gamo2. This is a surprise. They are doing the rhythm game world a huge favor with their controllers.

"And they do stuff... like this." I think its a bad thing when I saw that footage and didn't get why he was making it out to be some crazy shit

Try experimenting with other aftermarket keycap sets to get different labeled keys

Key Mander? Never heard of that, but will need to check it out. As for this keyboard, I like the sound of the flexibility. Does it have macro support?