Great movie and it was sad. If people keep supporting fast food entertainment like the MCU or uncreative reboots like Ghostbusters After Life. Well, you can't blame Hollywood for that.

Honestly, I'd say it's because going to the movies is too expensive these days. If I'm paying 15 to 20 bucks to see a movie, it better be a fucking visual spectacle. Comedies I can watch at home on Netflix

Kiss kiss bang bang came out 11 YEARS earlier (2005) and it too bombed. So don't go blaming superhero movies just yet

Yep. I remember seeing that in a completely empty theater. Now, I don't mind spending a bit of time to just... relax in a quiet, air conditioned theater watching a great movie. I think part of the problem is that the current theater model of just, having popcorn and nothing else is somewhat killing them because people aren't going to go out and make a night of it, because they could either do that at home OR go to a restaurant, have a good dinner and whatnot, and then go to their movie after and not buy anything from the theater itself other than the ticket price. I know I can go out and see something like The Nice Guys, buy popcorn, and enjoy it greatly. But I also am an AMC A list member who buys popcorn and so forth because I pay very little on tickets and so forth and spend money on popcorn/food, especially at their nicer theaters that offer "decent" food. I dunno, it's a really really weird thing for me because I love really niche and weird films but it's getting so common for me to see a great film but be, the only person in the theater. Wind River was another film that really made me think about this too.

@@nms7872 That wasn't playing in many smaller towns and the superhero boom was already off by 2005.

I guess we need Sacha Baron Cohen to reprise his role as Ali G, Borat, The Dictator and even Bruno for trolling the world again especially politicians 😂

is either fart dumb jokes now days, cause of the sensitive times we live in, a smart comedy, would be censored or sued by whoever is offended lol.

@@davidsepulveda5812 what's a smart comedy to you? Atlanta's pretty smart and I haven't heard many complaints about it

Just imagine trying to write a comedy in 2021 though. You basically have to write it and cater it to the most sensitive people on the planet! It kills me knowing that many comedy classics could never be made today .

@@BryanCostner Ali G was funny for a movie or two but it got old pretty quickly

I don't think we'd get a film like The Matrix nowadays...

@@taffyroosevelt7809 We might but not from big studios like WB. They will come from studios like Bron and A24.

@@anthonyclarke2253 a24 is actually a really solid example

@@freddydefunct but those studios don't decide the movies tho, the movies were made and A24 and bro just bring exposure... for example the farewell was made and then A24 got it to promote it

@@xingincool9672 that’s a fair point, but at least the movie is still being put out by a larger distributor. So while they might not make the movie, they definitely still make their money off those films and it fuels their brand which carries said reputation. They don’t have to make the films as long as someone out there is !

Original didn't do well either, though, when it came out. That kind of movie can take decades to achieve the recognition it's due.

@@MiloDC Well, that's because at the time, a film like that was super uncomon. It isn't anymore. People love that kind of gritty science fiction stuff. This film financially flopped for completely different reasons. All of them culminating into one basic theme, which is that it didn't appeal to the casual movie goer. Not in its tone, not in its setting, but rather in its advertising and its length. I'm really glad Denis Villeneuve shares my opinion on trailers, where he hates ones that reveal too much about the film. So he kept them very ambiguous. Unfortunately though, it didn't reach the common moviegoer whos eyes multiply in size when they see a new MCU trailer. It also failed in part because it simply had time to breath in its scenes. Most people want action or forcibly witty dialogue around every corner, and this film was more stoic and elegant than that. Too much so for a lot of people.

@@Dalvory Nonsense. You're telling me that _BR2049_ flopped because the trailers weren't flashy and overly revealing, but for some reason _Dune_ is a hit, even though it features the same director, who approached its trailers the same way he approached _BR2049_ 's trailers? There are clearly other factors in play. _Blade Runner_ -- meaning, the original movie and the (superior, in my opinion) sequel -- is *niche* . You claim that "people love that kind of gritty science fiction stuff," but I can't think of a single film like either _BR_ movie that has risen above the status of cult favorite. Not even Steven Spielberg could manage it with his terrific _Minority Report_ . Hell, the highly entertaining _Edge of Tomorrow_ added a nice splash of accessibility to the "gritty sci-fi" subgenre, and even _that_ suffered weak box office receipts, and has similarly remained a cult classic. _"Most people want action or forcibly witty dialogue around every corner, and this film was more stoic and elegant than that."_ Most people _like_ that. It's most definitely *not* a necessity though, as proven by the many other successful movies -- in the past, and of late -- that are light on, or devoid of, those things. The obsessive focus of many people on the success of the MCU as some kind of proof that people are rubes who like only flashy comic book fare only reveals their own arrogance and myopia.

2049 sucked!

@@MiloDC If that were the case, the film wouldn’t have gotten near unanimous praise. It’s not that the film didn’t visually or thematically appeal to people. It’s that it didn’t catch much attention due to yes, it’s advertising. There are of course more factors in play because Dune was popular, but I think it also has to do with how the director is much more well known now in 2021 than he was in 2017.

Great quote

That phrase has taken on new meaning in the age of streaming.

And there is no real reason to pay for a lot of this mainstream stuff because it is so forgettable, you don't even get the memory. Not to mention the problems with not owning what you pay for. The gaming industry loves that quote, too. And the gaming industry is almost identical to the movie one now, No coincidence there.

paintings and galleries.

Agreed Madness. The best films are worth paying for the memory.

Hey another Chris~

Hi Chris

Hi Chris! I completely agree and as someone who is studying film and passionate about the craft I am worried about the future of cinema. That being said if I have to make movies for 50 pounds I will it is what it is. Good luck to all of us trying to make it out there as filmmakers.

Hi Chris of Abroad

Chris!

I agree.

I just want to say I enjoyed reading your comment because you used punctuation and are well spoken. That’s rare to find on the internet these days let alone a huge typo hahaha. Take care!

I think there's also the fact that these kind of movies will never make Marvel money. And for some reason that's not enough. I have a hard time understanding that, because for a studio if a movie that costs 20m makes 50m, it is considered a failure. I remember The Amazing Spider-man 2 that Sony considered a failure because didn't made 1bi, even making more than the double of the cost. A similar thing is also occurring in the videogame industry. The games as service is way more profitable than the single player ones. The single player games did not stop making money, is just that there's a model that makes MORE money. And now the major part of the industry prefers to invest in that. It's just sad. For real.

Daredevil costed 40 million dollars to produce each season, I was wondering why it was cancelled. I think i'll just rewatch it again because it's highly unlikely i'll see another marvel show with that budget and quality anytime soon.

@@44Gleek182 Indeed, making $20 million profit from a $10 million movie isn't seen as a sound investment anymore, which makes absolutely zero sense to me. We're losing a lot of these "middle-tier" films Chris mentioned. The thriller genre seems completely gone these days...

not at all its just wokeism

This! It baffles me that people spend this much money to sit there and not actually watch the movie. Just go to a pub then.

And the inevitably woke generic drivel you’re about to be subjected to!! I’m totally with you on the noisy people though, I can’t bear it.

Completely agree, I used to love going to the movies.

Same. There are lots of movies that look pretty good and I wouldn’t mind seeing them, but paying upwards of 30$ just to see one of them with a crowd who might ruin the experience anyway isn’t exactly feasible (for me or other people).

lol u havent been to the cinemas in quite sometime

They have not heard of them because people by and large are staying away from theatres because the content generally is so poor. Right now there is a back log of movies because of shut downs hence why we are spoiled. But that is about to run out in the next few months and it will be back to trash. I did see an interview with a WB executive where they said that they would start to focus on the quality of the content rather than pure raw box office hence why they gave the green light for Dune part 2.

Absolutely, movies are quite an investment for the average family. With 2 you don’t children under 5 I may make it to the movies with my husband once every couple months. That’s a hundred dollar date for just the two of us. When families are going they feel the blockbuster will be worth it

100%! I'm a new mom and it costs me $20/hr to hire a babysitter to watch my baby when I go to the movies. So there's the cost of the sitter plus the cost of movie. And to be honest? Smaller movies don't necessarily benefit from being seen on the big screen the way a big budget blockbuster does. A small personal drama looks fine on a TV or even a phone screen while something with big effects and stunning vistas almost needs a big canvas to be appreciated. But I admit that I miss the movies from the 90s just like all the rest of the hypocrites.

Well said. I feel that Chris is placing to much of the responsibility for this on the paying customer, the movie going audience, and letting Hollywood off without even a criticism of how its own self-destructive behavior (ie infusing movies with political messaging to the point of lecturing the audience) has brought about its own problems with fewer successful films.

All cap. Ticket sales for Spiderman have broken records. Support small films and artists period.

@@MovieJustin but it’s not. When I was a kid I would get dropped at the mall and see 2 movies a day. I saw titanic 4 times in the theatre. Smaller movies made money bc people went more frequently overall. Also, my partner will watch Spider-Man, he won’t be willing to watch silent night or last night in soho. Shoot to even see encanto with my kid we are doing a monday Matinee. These blockbusters make so much bc everyday people are only seeing this, not much else

I had to call my brother out on this once, he shut up real quick lol

Where else are they gonna go? Theatres are where people watch movies.

@@spenser9908 The problem isn't going to the theaters, the problem is only going to see the blockbusters there.

I only go and see property movies rarely if I'm particularly interested in one like A Quiet Place Part II, but other than that I try to see as much original stuff as possible.

I have a friend who complains about not getting movies like Blade Runner or Castaway anymore, and yet he has pre-booked a ticket for the upcoming Spider-Man movie. He's even completely aware that he's part of the problem

Right on. I was thinking the same thing.

I agree with this, 100%. I think the best option right now is getting high profile people to speak about this. Have Dave Grohl make an argument and then release the next Foo Fighters a little bit early but only through a purchase; not through streaming. Have big Marvel actors branch out into smaller films and promote them and encourage people to go see it or at least buy the release. Audiences of all media vote and speak with their wallet, and it’s those who don’t complain when things ‘aren’t the same anymore’

Yep, and with both smaller record labels and studios continually being bought out by larger ones, there is less of a willingness for those larger entities to take risks because they have a lot more overhead, and are continually increasing that by buying out smaller labels and studios, as well as share holders to appease. Buying out their competition leaves them needing more money to help pay for it, and so they focus on market testing and what will make them the most in profits, and for the creators leaves less possible avenues for their projects to get produced.

Blaming the audience is peak Hollywood arrogance. It’s so bizarre that is even an argument that someone would make and others not just laugh at.

I don't understand your comment and how it relates to movie production that Chris is talking about. How is revenue break down relevant to the way the studio is funding mid and low budget movies? Can you explain?

Last night in Soho was trash, don't force it.

Shang-chi wasn't as good as it could've been

I love both those movies, but even in anticipation knowing I was gonna love LNiS, I knew that it wasn't gonna have a major audience. It actually did better at my theatre than I thought it would, but it sadly didn't last very long

@@leosotiri4982 last night in soho was literally amazing what

I feel like a portion of people who watched shang chi might have come for the cast. the idea that Tony Leung was there there must have been a drawing factor since he's starred in a lot of good and even in iconic movies! Like, following movies not just because of the subject but the cast is still a thing, or so I heard..

They won't even release it in my country since the theathers probably know they'd make more money showing venom 2 for a day than show a 1700s period piece for a week

Exactly because the makers of tgat movie can't even get the studios enoung money for marketing. Like they can't even spare that money for more ads.

I live near San Francisco and didn't see a single ad online or IRL

Yeah that's real, sometimes I feel that the only movies that go to the theaters nowadays are franchise.

Same thing happened to me.

I haven't even seen much of the matrix, and that mother fucke comes out like next week.

@@assordante2205 It's starting to ramp up in ads, but they seem to be very selective based on some set of algos where they're running them. They're not "blanketing" for the filthy casuals to push them to see the movie. I could only describe it as niche memberberry marketing.

Chris made a video about this. He argues that today we are being fed information. So only the popular movies that shows up in your social media feeds will most likely get more support. So you have to find out for yourself which are good movies. Don't rely only on what's on your feed.

THANK YOU . I've been trying to say this for a while. It's always been like this.

I just got to know they made a new matrix like a week ago

The prosthetic mask scene is still one of the very best of all time.

Yes. Even television shows are a spectacle in themselves where they provide 9/10ths the impact of a film at a significantly less cost.

This right here. You are absolutely correct, it's almost as if the movie industry has hit a ceiling. Everyone is so used to seeing all kinds of movies on Netflix that none of the new movies garner any kind of excitement from the general public. Everyone has become immune to amazing graphics, twisted storylines, new concepts that nothing phases them anymore. And this is mostly because they get to watch all of this on Netflix and other streaming services, day and night.

Not even mentioning other video entertainment like streaming or KZfaq or more modern entertainment like video games. Literally lifetimes worth of free content, sure it's low budget but end of the day, people are spending their time and money on that.

So baffling to me because if there’s a new movie that I want to see I much prefer to go to the theatre. I have a decent setup at home, but it’s never going to be like being immersed in the theatre.

Oh absolutely. I rarely watch movies anymore (and I love a good movie) because I’ve been gaming more. I only have so much free time and money so I have Xbox Gamepass and that takes care of most of my entertainment these days.

Yeah even I face the same problem here too in India. Its hard to find indie films outside USA.

Same here, it's hard to find an A24 or Neon movie in a theater around me. The last A24 movie that they played in a theater near my house was Hereditary and that was 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!!! There's always this thing where i get pissed till i emailed many movie theaters to ask "why does this film don't get played? it should be fine for its rating" Indie movies are now way better than blockbusters. I can't even wait any longer, there's rarely any Indie movie in Netflix or Amazon in my country, i had to pirate it, it's not something i do but what choice do i have?? I can't wait any longer, its dissapointing. I had to watch Spencer at a pirate website cuz the movie isn't on any legal streaming service. It's just sad man. Even a film from a big studio like The Last Duel and Last Night In Soho was played in a theater near my house for just one week then they take it down in favor of those disposable Marvel movies like Eternals and Venom. It's fucking pathetic, people always complain that Hollywood lack of originality but when a good original movie was released, people barely show up at the theater to support it, it's such a shame how cinema has turned out nowadays. And me as a Marvel fan, i always wanna try to take a step back and watch new stories, new movies, but the theater barely plays it. Its so sad

Hell, I live in the US, and it's hard even here to find a theatre that plays indie films unless you live in a big city. There's movies I wanted to go see that I would have had to drive at LEAST over an hour to see.

I thought this only happened in SA now we have a huge problem

I feel you....I'm from Romania and i'm a die hard fan o horror, and we don't even have shudder , and most of the indies can't be found anywhere on the Internet. I try my best to not pirate them but I can't find them anywhere

@Daisy Mae in that case if its possible perhaps buying the films in any way directly would be a better alternative.

It is not a type of film that appeals to the public. It only did well because of the stars who were in it and the fact that Cameron Crowe at that time was the Christopher Nolan of of the era. The problem today is that audiences have been put off cinema because of the content that is being created by the industry. Most normal working people are not interest in a CGI smash fest or an art house film about the struggle of the outer mongolians tribal people living in east LA.

Yeah but he isn’t making things better by hogging his floating technology all to himself and killing monarchs while he eats all their food.

Or Matt Damon on Hot Ones....

@BasedAnybody yeah the music industry is in a wired place right now.

The empty man was horrible

it ruined nothing and hes wrong. its just a new way to consume the media and either you are going with the times or you are failing. the issue is the old fat guys at movie companies are angry that they are throwing they big wallets and dont see the wanted returns for those movies lol. no one cares, future is clearly streaming. my (and many other people) tv is better quality than most of cinemas (middle of europe), 4k hdr with properly lit room, in comfort of my own couch and room.

dude!! great.......great analogy.

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right. i feel like there is sooo many shows and movies available to us that most people just end up choosing whats trending so they can feel they're part of the "cultural conversation". Like, how're you gonna understand all the new memes on social media if you haven't seen the latest marvel movie? Fear of being left out. Especially relevant now when social gatherings are extremely limited for a lot of us.

and the Captain America cameo in Free Guy

It’s not really a good meme if need to understand the reference within. That whole you think your better then me meme from Good Time was hilarious to me but I didn’t see Good Time until months after the meme was dead

@@thomashajicek2747 Why shouldn't they be paid that? If their names put butts in seats, then they deserve to get their fair share. This is a business like any other. You wouldn't tell any other businessmen they should make less to sell their product.

@@thomashajicek2747 You may not but most people do. Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt, Angelina and many others at one point or the other were the main draws to see a film. It's not about being a crybaby, it's about getting your fair share of what you bring to the table. This isn't about what you feel they should make. This is is about numbers, and big names bring tend to bring in higher numbers at the box office.

@@thomashajicek2747 they should be paid 20+. It’s a career that’s not guaranteed. I know actors who are not making much so for them to finally make it . Yes they deserve it.

Yes. It was the most Wes Andersen film that had Mr. Anderson Wes all over every frame. A master craftsmen at his most realized.

Filmmaking is an ever evolving craft, and there must come a time where sensibilities shift on what kind of movies are made. There have been several major shifts in filmmaking throughout history that changed the industry and the kind of films they were making based on the temperament of the culture at any given time. How films are made and what kind of films are made always reflect the mindset of its time. And it starts with the he advent of film to begin with in the late 19th century. Emerging technology with cameras inspired people to record. Then we thought, hey, we can tell stories this way. So we did. Then we have the establishment of sound in film. No need for silent films when you can have sound, so nobody made silent films anymore. In fact, this led to the rise of the big budget musicals of the 1930s, 40s, and 50s. Musicals WERE the blockbuster films of their day. But as time has it, the political climate changed in the 1960s and 70s. The country was in a continuous flux of unrest. The civil rights movement, the sexual revolution, and the Vietnam War were all just a part of what brought a perpetual unease that big bubbly musicals no longer fit into. People wanted smaller, more personal film experiences. Many couldn't afford to go to the movies often, and big budget musicals just couldn't make their money back. Hollywood changed again and started focusing on low budget films after seeing a flux of low budget movies showed strong returns in comparison to their budgets. Sure, studios wouldn't make as much money this way, but smaller investments offered a far better chance of turning a moderate profit than investing large amounts of money into musicals that were losing them money. This is when and how directors like Martin Scorsese and George Romero were able to get their start. Movies of this time thrived, to some extent, on minimalism instead of excess. Small, contained, personal stories that appealed to the mindset the country was in at the time. And that's where 1975 through almost all of the 1980s came in and flipped the script again. The modern blockbuster. While the 80s brought Hollywood back to an era of bloated budgets and high concepts, the indie scene of the 60s and 70s managed to stay alive in the background. But like all the other changes to Hollywood throughout film history, movies generally found their new flavor of the decade formula. And there was also a new after market for movies on cable television now. The home video rental market also exploded. All of this gave studios additional avenues to make money off their films. No longer did studios have to rely solely on ticket sales and three television networks they could license their films to in order to make money back, which in turn meant a willingness to spend more money making a film. The 80s were a time of excess, so movies were tailored to that excess. Action movies got more violent. More nudity. Classic horror icons like Dracula, The Mummy, and Frankenstein were replaced by Jason, Feddy, and Michael Myers. The mindset of the 80s was if you can go big, go bigger. The 1990s was a weird time for film. It was kind of an amalgam of everything that came before it. The 90s saw a huge rise in animation. This is often sited as Disney's Golden Era of animated musicals, which kind of brought Hollywood back full circle. But the 90s wasn't as minimalist as the 60s and wasn't as excessive as the 80s. So the 90s kind of dipped into everything until The Matrix evolved the blockbuster yet again. CGI had arrived. If Terminator 2 is what began this shift in 1990, it was The Matrix that solidified the future of the CG blockbuster. So now we come 2000s, where the next major shift happened. Hollywood went PG-13. Movie budgets crossed into the $200 million mark in the late 90s, and those budgets only got worse. The computer age became the information age, and streaming became a reality. Like the 80s, the mid-2000s began a new time of excess... only this time it was an insatiable need for information and content to consume. Hollywood adapted again. Rising technology allowed them to make movies that were never thought possible because of CG. Consumer technology allowed Hollywood to reach more people than ever before 24/7. More kids were consuming content like never before, so Hollywood stepped away from the R rating in favor of producing PG-13 content to reach as many people as they could. They had to. The cost of blockbuster filmmaking was higher than ever. And after the tragedies of 9/11, people desperately needed escapism. They needed heroes to look to. And that's how Superhero films finally found a home in Hollywood. Feel good movies where the good guys win, and rendered worlds beyond our imagination that we can escape into. We became obsessed social media and content consumption. Hollywood will never stop changing. The pandemic is forcing another change as we speak. The future right now is shifting towards streaming. Some really don't like that idea at all, but what streaming can bring to the table has been proven in the past two years, if not well before that. KZfaq channels like this one owe their existence to streaming. KZfaqrs have launched their filmmaking careers because of streaming. So, yeah, the phrase "they don't make them like they used to" has always been true throughout film history. The only thing that won't change is that film will always change to meet the sensibilities of the time and culture it exists in.

I saw it opening night and there was one other group of like 4 people in the whole theatre. Made me pretty sad tbh.

Every digital movie I buy I backup to a hard drive. Comes in handy when my internet randomly dies.

Torrents, baby ;)

If that's the case, then I'd be ok if streaming services stopped happening in favor of physical media.

I still buy blu rays

I still buy DVD's and for Christmas that is mostly what I bought myself. As a mom I want to be able to share films with my child and I don't want have to rely on an internet connection and a streaming service to do so. I also borrow stuff from my public library since they still have a large collection of DVD's.

100% with you. Social media killed the movie star.

I think that was a big reason orginal films did well, the actor was enough to sell it. Not anymore

@@manofmedia992 It has nothing to do with social media. Hollywood stopped producing stars and stopped producing movies that the public as a whole want. Disney is producing comic book movies that appeal to a sector of the public but outside of that which 85% of the population the content is terrible. Most people have an expectation that a film is going to be of a certain point of view and they do not feel entertained by it.

@@bighands69 Social media is a big part of it because it diminished the star power of celebrities. Prior to MySpace we didn't get to wake up & go to sleep with celebrities, see where they are, what they're eating, they're family, see how normal they are, etc. They had star power & a Nicolas Cage led movie meant something in the early 2000s & prior. They were elusive & had a mystique about them. You only saw fractions of them on talk shows, red carpets, & most importantly the movies. Now with the boom of social media any bafoon i.e. Paul Brothers, Fouseytube, Eliza Koshy, Viners, Twitch streamers, vloggers, etc. can & will be stars. The new generation isn't really that impressed with movie stars like they used to be, they're more impressed by the internet celebrities probably because that lifestyle is more in their grasp. All you need is an internet connection & a camera rather than film school. Finally, Hollywood realized your George Clooney's & Brad Pitts of the world aren't drawing the crowds like they used to, so you're right, now it's more about the IP (BIG BUDGET COMIC BOOK MOVIES, STAR WARS, ETC) rather than the movie star. I stand by my point that social media & ill add The Internet, killed the movie star.

@@manofmedia992 George Clooney was starting to become irrelevant before the rise of social media. Brad Pitt movies still draw an audience but the whole industry is in decline. But Pitt is now closing in on 60 years of age. If you go back to 2013 you can see that it was the year of Prisoners, Wolf of Wall Street, Dallas Buyers Club, Her, Gravity, Captain Philips, Oblivion, World War Z, Rush, Man of Steel, The Conjuring, Lone Survivor, Gangster Squad, Elysium, Trance, The Lone Ranger and the Purge. The film industry today is nothing like that with absolutely no effort being made at all to bring those types of films to the theatres.

Yes I agree!!

Don't forget the cost to promotting one movie sometime more expensive than budget of that movie itself...😐

Storytelling moved to games, CGI moved to Cinema - to the detriment of both.

Thank you for pointing it out that our movie going culture simply changed, it can't be the same as in the 80's/90's anymore. Heck, even from 2019 to now it's a completely new world where people can't be bothered anymore. If it's not an event (once in a while, expensive but more private type of room with my family) I'm not showing up for any movie. I'll watch it on any streaming platform later.

That’s just sad

It’s cause of liberal ideologies, y’all don’t wanna say it for some reason. Just say it

Yesss..and at the same time they destroy the original,and beloved character that made the movies so great

@@zymosan123 We don't want to say it because it is pretty much nonsense. There is certainly a big boom in progressive, inclusive media but that has very little to do with the topic covered in the video. It really is a matter of money.

@@zymosan123 Corporate mindsets are way more universal and general to be sourced from "liberal ideologies"... whatever that means.

@@zymosan123 I’m getting tired of that disingenuous assertion. It’s pure invention. Mega corporations like Disney don’t give a fuck about politics, and they’ll pander to whoever they have to reach their bottom line. Case in point, removing their Star Wars gay kiss for Chinese audiences.

First off, be encouraged that your journey for more will be met with great reward. I was about your age that I really dove deep into film and really studied it. Fell in love with it really. Haven’t stopped discovering and rediscovering it. With that said, the theme of “spectacle” is spot on. I think it’s meant to be polished, to generate a “feeling” (be it that it’s deep or not, it was a sensation met) and then forgotten. What your describing reminds me of why songs originally were faded out during the juke box era, it gave a sense that the song was incomplete and prompted the listener to feed it more coins to listen again. I think this type of entertainment, at least from my experience, functions similar - the next chapter of the story, the next reveal of an anticipated character. I took my cousin, who is 21 years my junior to see “No Way Home.” He was happy, that’s all that mattered to me but we also talked about why he was. I thought it was so so, it delivered what the fans wanted but by no means the most emotionally riveting or gut wrenching film I’ve seen. Speaking to what you introduced, it’s because there isn’t anything better to compare it to. And to be honest, some older films do drag. And before others jump on me for that, doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate the writing, set design, cinematography or advancement in specific techniques that were introduced in said film. I think it’s important to see origins and how they evolved and perfected. At least for me, I can appreciate film that way. For where it came from to where it is now. In short, don’t be discouraged that others your age don’t get it. Continue to explore films that speak to you. Don’t hesitate to rewatch them either, I always find something new as the years go by that I didn’t appreciate when I first watched it. It’s not easy to go against the flow but stick with it. Thanks for sharing.

I do agree...this is what is ruining film. I'm 20 years older than you and it's weird because when I was growing up we could appreciate both forms. We had blockbusters like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Men in Black, Independence Day and more, but we also had a ton of mid-budget films that are iconic today. My generation seemed to appreciate both. I wonder why your generation seems to mostly focus on the spectacle. Part of me wonders if it is their parents. My parents introduced me to a ton of different movies. We used to watch movies a lot as a family. I'd imagine with the increased economic pressures that exist today...maybe parents don't watch a lot of movies with their kids. Then when left to their own devices...I could see how they might just appreciate the spectacle. Honestly, IMO...the blockbusters even used to be better in the 90's and 2000's. The blockbusters made today I pretty much react to the same way your friends do to classics...boring. They have no heart...no storyline...nothing. It's just empty...spectacle.

@@drewzalo Let me guess. You didn't watch the power of the dog, did you?

@@avanishdutta2658 I have and saw Old Henry as well, both films were solid and appreciated what they bring to the western genre.

@@drewzalo Honestly who will actually see memoria or something like the lost daughter? The Souvenir part 1 was called boring by audiences, whereas critics praised it. Even part 2 released last year was praised. People really praise spectacle over solid drama driven by dialogue. Even Mamet's House of Games is slow burning drama driven entirely by dialogue, but i guess people will walk out of theatres if it's shown today.

Completely agree

Νοt special, but is more sustainable, it is only a habit.

Also to add, just something about being able to put a physical copy of a film you love on the shelf and if it comes up in a discussion getting to say “I have THAT movie” if felt great

Agree, I still collect physical media but I get a lot my stuff through Amazon and it’s not the same as going to a store and holding the blu ray and buying it right away

This is just like reminiscing over going to the video store.. Sure it was memorable, but it's not really better, and you just can't hold up progress with less practical systems, unless you want to live in some fabricated bubble simulation kinda like in that movie The Village

There are many reasons for that. Most of them revolve around social media. Now, I do believe in separating the art from the artist, and I think it's dumb how big celebrities have to be more careful of what they say than the average person. I think they should be able to say whatever they want just as we can without it threatening their jobs. But because that isn't the world we live in, a lot of actors are "cancelled" for simply sharing any opinion that goes against the current norms. Now, I think people should be able to call out whoever they want online, no matter how dumb it is. But because Hollywood actors are so popular, what they say reaches more ears, and that only heightens whatever praise or hate they receive. Many of them didn't ask for the demigod status that was thrusted upon them when they became movie stars. It's just the sad reality of things. I don't think there's anything that could be done to fix this that doesn't include taking away peoples freedom of speech, but one thing that could make it a non-issue for their careers is if online controversy simply wasn't a factor the higher ups consider when casting, and that only has a chance of happening if people stopped refusing to watch films just because it has an actor who made this joke, who expressed this political opinion, etc. More people just need to learn to separate the art from the artist.

Must say I was sad to see the Rock strongly promote Harris and Biden ticket to hell. He appeared to fancy her?

@Don Oh for sure. I was just expanding on the original post about why movie stars are looked at differently now, and how it effects the films being made, even slightly. Another reason they are is that a lot of them have done fucked up things. But I don't think the greater whole deserves to suffer under the name of "celebrities" just because of a few bad apples.

@Don Its called doing your work and not being stupid to your public. There was a studio Star system of control and publicists for Indy well written films. There were editors with a brain. Now the people written about are as awful as their audience and making money without ethics is the score. Hollywood is over. Watching people talk who know nothing makes me ill. Talent requires discernment and cultivated values.

@@Dalvory They have a fan base responsibility--what is the average person. Duh.

Smaller films can make money . It’s just the studios doesn’t advertise them as much and plus there are to many films and shows , events coming out everyday

Same here! I was so happy when Jungle Cruise came out and did well, because maybe that'll mean they'll start making old-fashioned adventure movies like that again. I want to make movies like that myself (Technically you could count the recent Jumanji sequels as well but those felt more like affectionate parodies rather than straight up adventure films).

Legend of Zorro should be considered a classic, at least to me lol

Yup! Those kinds of film are totally gone

@@DougyFreshGames i think you mean mask, legend came out in the 2005

@@VegimorphtheMovieBoy Jungle Cruise was much better than I expected. Emily Blunt is incredibly talented.

@@The614zeke To be fair, LOTR was a massive gamble for the producers even then. They were putting everything on the line to get those movies made, it's almost a miracle that they exist.

They already confirmed there would be a part 2...

@@quentin117 Yeah, but that's not what he was talking about. What he's talking about is how the movie, that was designed as the first half of a two parter, wasn't guaranteed that second part until it was released and proven successful.

​@@hiimchrisj Yes, and i'm responding to this by saying, Hollywood needs to adapt. I don't think having a big gap between movies budgets is a problem. I even think it's better, because when you have a smaller budget, you get very interresting movies. Just look at amazon small budget movies. There is a lot of great movies in there. The problem is not the budget, quit the contrary. The more budget they get, the more the studio wants (needs) to control it.

Dune 2021 is complete dog shit. If they make part 2 they better factor an audience who won't turn up after watching part 1.

Yeah no thanks. How about they support me.

@@tylergable2445 You seem like a well adjusted, happy person. Keep commenting on Chris’ videos maybe one day he’ll give you the attention you want so badly, but I’m betting not. Either way if you want support get betterhelp or a dog crybaby.

@@carsonbertrand5619 wo

This is also true.

Yeah, but how many of those terrible decades old films had a corporate, run-by-committee design to them?

I also am in my 60s and there is some truth to that. But it is also true that even the so-called good movies these days are not generally as good as the better movies of the past. There seems to be a lack of creativity and an aversion to true diversity -- diversity of ideas, issues and themes. Hollywood has always been tempted to preach rather than entertain. But lately they seem to have positioned themselves at the pulpit.

The good stuff always rises to the surface of memory with media. I look back at 80s films and think it was the best decade. But I'm only thinking of stuff like Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, some of the Star Trek films (itself in the IP category), ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop...But for every one great film there are 20 bad ones from the same era I just don't remember on account of them being dull.

@@jlev1028 tbh many of them did, like back in the 30s big studios would just write films specifically for certain actors and actresses, it wasn't about some auteur with a vision picking actors who fit the roles.

I agree

That and gaming is stealing the spotlight more and more each year. Last year in particular the gaming industry grew immensely while movie theaters and production companies scrambled to stay afloat.

This.

Exactly right that it is about risk

@@TheVirtualObserver This has nothing to do with Video Games, don't make Video Games out to be the "bad guy" because they aren't, you wanna know why movie theaters didn't do that well last year? It was because most of the theaters were shut down because of covid 19

Chris is not just talking about volume. I'm not sure how you missed that -- that was sort of the central thrust of the entire video.

@@artistryartistry7239 Wow, that's a snobby response. If not for streaming democratizing filmmaking, I now greatly appreciate the diversity in entertainment that I am now able to enjoy that never existed before streaming. Why am I expected to only watch Scorsese for the rest of eternity as the only standard of movie quality? How snobby is that?

@@nnveepathlight9528Dude he isn’t being snobby He is addressing the fact that Hollywood is primarily making more and more I.P franchises films While original ones are made with lower and lower budgets and then dumped on streaming and forgotten in a day. You mentioned Scorsese, well if Scorsese was young today he probably wouldn’t have become as well known Taxi driver would’ve been dumped on streaming and maybe gotten a small cult following and not the iconic classic today.

Totally agree but what's with the capitalized words

@@clarke5479 idk, just excited😄

Indie films with super low budgets are a risk ultimately as an average paying consumer (especially with a family) isn’t to ur benefit especially if marvel or other heavily marketed movies have that immediate appeal and shine. People who like indie films already have the pro bias going in. And as such most ppl need to be introduced to the system, standard and styles of the experience watching. I think a good middle ground would be to encourage further creative liberties with modern filmmakers rather than the companies and markets decide. Which is fair. For example we can get unbreakable or any other smaller budget, original film. But as extensions of newer media Basically think joker 2019 bring the new era of older movies like taxi driver. It’s not impossible to tell these stories in a medium resembling the indie scene without going balls deep in the risks involved for the modern media industry. It’s not always the consumers fault. Though I do agree it makes me drone that ppl accept garbage which leads to this predictive style of filmmaking. Safety breeds the stagnation of the status quo. Imo at least. The industry needs to evolve. The music industry did. Maybe not perfectly. But it’s a start. And that’s what is needed. Not relying on corporate predictive market formula based storytelling.

I mean, I can kinda relate in a way. I say I want original indie horror films and I DO! definitely want that, I watch those types of films all the time. But then when they do make an overproduced stupid modern big budget horror movie.. I still want to see that too.

As someone who enjoys watching indie films i say that not all of them are good movies and i'm not going to go and watch all indie films in the theater just cuz they are indie and i need to support them

@@LuisSierra42 You're not flawed in your thinking, I agree. But you say that not all indie films are good movies... when I find that there are waaayyyy more bad big budget films than there are indie.

@@cookiesontoast9981 I agree, i think the average blockbuster can only work as passing entertainment at best while the average indie movie is usually a very personal story which could help you re-contextualize how you see certain things. What i say is that, if studios only respond to whether many people support indie films in order to finance them, then it is a losing game for both filmmakers and movie goers because it is not possible that mass audiences are going to go to every indie movie just because they have to support them. A lot of people just want to forget their problems for a couple of hours for which a marvel movie will suffice

I concur. If I took a date out to the movies that involved getting popcorn, over $50 there.

I work at a cinema in the UK, and it's £4.99 a ticket online and £5.99 in store. If you bring snacks and drinks from home already and it's a ticket for two, then that's only £10 out at the cinema.

@@masonspencer918 Damn. I live in Finland and tickets essentially start at 16€ nowadays.

@@sakkenakke People would be willing to pay the price if the quality is there. During the 1930s great depression people still went to the theatres because they had quality films. In the 1970s period of economic stagnation where prices went through the roof people went to the theatres. In the year 2013 the theatres had amazing films such as Wolf Of Wall Street, Prisoners, Her and Gravity. But that was a decline from the the year 2000. And in 2022 we have very little remaining.

@@masonspencer918 London? Big cinema or small independent local one?

Yea that was a bad move and I'm with you I love marvel movies just as as anybody else but that was definitely a bad move I wish he would've said something like martin Scorsese is a brilliant filmmaker the best in the world and but I disagree with his opinion cuz that's what this is at the end of the day

@@montero863 when the fuck did he do that? I'm out of the loop . I thought the op was making shit up for example. Okay i read it and damn. I mean Marvel movies are great and all, and I'm sure the cast puts a lot effort and shit , but none of them are even close to being what something like taxi driver or Schindler's list is.

Scorsese has made nearly 100 movies. Why are we expected to shed a tear for this guy? He's been very successful, what more is he expecting? Give other people a shot.

@@montero863 I disagree. Why should he kiss Scorsese's ass just to stroke his ego? If Tom Holland disagreed he has every right to say it in whatever way he wants.

@@vedaryan334 and how would you know that? Do you work on those films?

Agree but how many modern movies are worth buying on blu ray? Very few

Even with all these services there are plenty of movies and shows not on streaming. I don't want to subscribe to all these different things when I still have satellite TV and a sizable collection. Also there's no guarantee that what you want to watch will always be available to stream.

@@billsimms2511 I get what ur saying but theres still great movies that come out every year.

Also physical media also won't have scene removed due to current politics.

Hoarder yuk

Very much agreed! I would also add that income for many declined (at least for a time) amidst the pandemic, which further exacerbated the issues you brought up. For those impacted most, it has been far safer to rely on existing streaming subscriptions to fund as much viewing as possible instead of individually purchasing tickets, physical copies, etc. Not to mention COVID-19 protocols, whether issued by governments, individual theaters, or individual viewers... Ridley Scott made the decision to release The Last Duel *exclusively* in theaters at a time where we are still seeing occasional upticks (typically around holidays) in positive COVID-19 cases, even with many of us being vaccinated. I am not sure exactly how much that played into it's failure at the box office, but I can say that not everyone is going to be willing to risk their health to go see a film about relatively obscure subject matter.

@@ShockinglyRandom94 Hell, lots of people won't risk their health to go see movies they really want to see, never mind obscure indie stuff. I'm fully vaccinated with 3 shots and I'm still not going out to any movie theaters even though I have one 5 minutes away because I got COVID last year and it fucked me up. Going to a theater potentially full of people who may or may not be vaccinated, where everyone is maskless because they're eating popcorn and drinking pop, while my state is currently on a pretty large rise in weekly COVID cases, seems like a pretty fucking stupid call to me. Unfortunately I've missed some movies I wanted to see, and will undoubtedly miss more, but it's just not a safe time to go out to theaters now. I think it's pretty stupid to release primarily in theaters now, to say nothing of exclusively in theaters, unless you're either releasing primarily outside of the US or you're releasing something that caters primarily to the anti-vax crowd who just pretend the pandemic doesn't exist.

Yes! Even before the pandemic, movie theaters were physically and financially difficult for me to get to. (Compared to going several times a month in the late nineties and early 2000's.) And I'm not interested in streaming services, a recurring expense for a limited and specific (and ever changing) library of materials I'm mostly not interested in, particularly since streaming services all split up again into several platforms, each with its own recurring expense. I'll probably end up buying Spencer 2021 on DVD and either keep it or donate it to my local public library. And I only know about it because of KZfaq movie reviews.

Literally me being a broke film student who only saw IT and alien 2 in the last few years (for a discounted price) who cant even afford the discount price for the amount of film I want to see and just prefers to wait or use cough cough other methods because again I cant afford it. It's not even too expensive in the uk now but it's almost an hour of my work to go see a film I'm not even 100% sure I am going to enjoy (ex house of gucci, Spencer...) or film that I know that I would enjoy (dune) but I still cant justify the price. Am I going to see a Star Wars movie? Probably, because I love the franchise. Am I going to see a weird indie movie (pretty much what I'd love to make) without being 100% sure that is going to satisfy me? No. I'll rent it later if I can but sadly it's not enough. And it's not like Star Wars needs more money anyway. It's the horrible reality we live in, I cant justify art unless its tangible and I can gain something back from it in the future if I need to make money to live or it's something that I cherish deeply and even then I can fall into the guilt tripping rabbit hole. Even worse if you have more than one passion ahaha

ugh, reading this broke my heart. that movie deserved so much better.

Honestly, prior to Covid it would have made tons of money. Theatre viewership has gone down significantly. I went to see Ghostbusters Afterlife opening weekend, and prior to Covid it would have been packed. But after? Half the theatre was empty. When more and more blockbusters (most of them owned by Disney which is really important to mention) are being added directly to streaming (and in Disney’s case they make ALL the money) less people feel the need to go to the theatre, and they don’t get the exposure to film previews/trailers or even the movie posters, which means they don’t go see those movies that are only in theatres. The amount of times I’ve been to the theatre and went to a movie because I liked the film poster is crazy. Also, there is a large portion of the population that is still uncomfortable in crowds because of Covid. I honestly think if The Last Duel had partnered with Netflix or something, it would have done better (also there was like no marketing for it).

Had that film come out in the 90s, it would be a contender for Best Picture

This is such a fresh and interesting perspective that no one mentions! I completely agree, and you add in the fact that the market is more global than ever and not everyone in the world could connect to smaller more ‘personal’ and therefore more culturally specific stories.

@@JeannesMovieChats Thank you :) Yeah I think you're right about that too. Sometimes we don't step back to think about it, but the interconnectivity of the world really hit a new high after 2007. Even smartphones became a big deal in 2007 with the release of the iPhone. It was a crazy time and many just forget that that stuff was pretty much non-existent before then.

Thank you. You’ve summed it up perfectly 🙌🏽

At that time you mentioned content started to decline in quality. Up to about 2013 there was still quality films at the theatre such as Wolf of Wall Street, Prisoners and Her. Dallas Buyers club cost $5 million to make and made $55 million at the box office but that year there was a decline from previous years.

I too grew up in the VHS/DVD eras but I'll be honest with you....I don't miss the bonus features on the disk at all. They were, with a few exceptions, mostly crap

DVDs are expensive and take up space. Nowadays you can't really justify spending $30 on every single film you're probably going to watch once every five years. I only have a few now, and they're my absolute favorite movies that I'll watch multiple times a year. Other than that, I'll stream it when it's available.

@@inorite4553 Depends on the film I guess 🤷🏾‍♂️ Taxi Driver, Jaws, American Psycho, Steel Magnolias, Menace II Society (among others) had some GREAT bonus content!

@@JamesJiansen To each their own! I’ve got at least 300+ DVD’s & many of them were purchased *cheaply* at various thrift stores. A lot of movies/ shows disappear from streaming services, so I like having a copy in my library 📀

Couldn’t agree more. In NYC theaters actually wrote that a film theater experience was no different than a Broadway experience and that the prices should reflect that. That did it for me, spending over 50$ for me and my kid to see an imax film with snacks is rough, especially cause the film wasn’t that good.

Ticket prices are a huge reason why theatres are dying but nobody in the industry wants to open that can of worms. Big prices mean people only see a few movies a year.

Exactly.. Ppl aren't paying money they are paying hours. 20$ is over 2 hour label.. And with covid crisis, unemployment is high as ever..

Exactly. And when, more often than not, so many modern movies are insultingly bad, it removes the incentive to trust Hollywood next time, and by extension people turn to piracy.

I have a local theater that has fairly priced concessions and tickets that are about half AMC price and it makes me want to go twice a month versus a few times a year. They make way more on my repeat business, theaters need to re-evaluate pricing.

Exactly the thing that no one ever wants to mention. Making things more coinvent than piracy always wins you the war. It happened with music and it happened with streaming.

Exactly, a lot of people can't pay for more than 2 streaming services, or even Blu-rays. In Third world countrys like Argentina (which i live in it) we have no problem to pay monthly Spotify (even when it's expensive) because you know that everything you want, it will be there, but movies are distributed in 100 streaming services, Blu-rays are expensive as fuck (if you get one) and the only alternative to this is piracy. And movies like The Last Duel which i really wanted to see in are like at most, 1 week in the theaters , and if you are busy in that small time period you will know that you will have to wait for the movie to be available in piracy

Pirating was just as deep back before Netflix. Actually some would say (not me 😂) that piratebay was at its peak back then.

@@GasparReyna Argentina isn´t a third world country. It only has an inflation problem. Maybe don`t vote for the Peronist anymore?

Hollywood loves to play the victim but they would all kill their own mother if it earned them a dollar. Hollywood movies aren't about art, great scrips, good directors etc. Unfortunately Chris is way too deep into this world to see clearly and I was rather disappointed by this video. Movies that get made have minimum risk for maximum profit. In my opinion there is no reason to save the industry. Let them all lose their career. When the ruins burn, very very quickly you will see a new industry rise and people can make clear again with only supporting the businesses that they like, what we really want from the industry.

Black Swan was made for $13 million and did over $300 million at the box office. Dallas Buyers Club was made for $5 million and did over $55 million. In 1999 American Beauty was made for about $10 million and did over $350 million. It is only 9 years ago that Wolf of Wall Street, Her, Prisoners, Dallas Buyers club, American Hustle, Captain Philip's, Trance and Gravity all came out in the same year.

Movies from 2000 to 2010 were awesome, man

the thing is that today crass comedies are harder to get released because you run the risk of pissing off some groups.

@@willhuey4462 that's not why. No one watched them as much as you'd like to think they do

@@phoenixfunny4517 i was referring to how sensitive the current generation.

@@willhuey4462 I mean. If you’re a studio, why risk it, look at typical crass comedies, they historically don’t make that much money, they don’t win awards, and they aren’t incredibly received, so why would a studio make a movie that will offend people, not make much money, and won’t get them any awards or praise?

I disagree with that. Humanity has been telling stories as long as we've existed and it has never cared for "originality" the same stories got passed around, they altered in the telling or in the cultures they got adapted for, and yet people never got tired of them. Heck, people aren't tired of them to this day. That's why we can make the period piece or the Shakespeare adaptation. The issue right now, in this moment is money. Studios and their investors want more of it, more than ever before. And wanting money means wanting to avoid risks. IPs have established fanbases, people that are going to see the film, no matter how good or bad, it means that they have built in profit and as such this has become a defining factor in getting financing in the first place. Movies have become more formulaic, because those formulas have been doing the job. When they finally don't any more, we'll see a change. But it definitely isnt' about artists or originality.

All the examples of good movies in this video are adaptations. How original.

@@LupineShadowOmega actually main problem is population.. The past 20 yrs population has increased as well.. So more ppl means more needs of resources... Hence the money has become a problem.. But also ppl's interests has changed and certain genre don't work or it does but ppl don't wanna pay for it bcuz the value has increased that being the ticket price.

Yes. This is true. But so many movies now have so many plot holes one gets annoyed. All one has to do is watch Screen Rant's Ryan do his movie pitches.

I disagree, you can still be creative and find new ideas or tell them in a different way. The 2010's/2020's so far has been the worse era for movies because Hollywood is still living off more creative decades and riding the coattails of older franchises. I hate using the word but Woke culture has damaged American movies and Hollywood/many corporations listen to a small percentage of leftist losers for whatever reason.

Well said and props to ur dad

Its time to get creative!

Interesting, and I agree with your dad. Simple formularic movies in streaming might implant too much in our minds that whenever there's an actual original movie with layers of storyline.. We might be too dumb to get it.. And I feel like that day has already arrived.. Or is close

@@emyf9194 This is true, I had to watch Squid Games alone because my girl didn't want to read subtitles...audiences all over are dummed down

@@ahmorgan I find it hard to read subtitles sometimes.. Like I have to have my eyes glued to the screen. So I watched it in dubbing in a different language lol honestly it wasn't that bad. I watched parasite in sub. And that was a breath of fresh air and felt I cleansed my brain from all the same stereotype movies that Hollywood nowadays releases

They're only being turned into series because it's easier to get a series greenlit than a film nowadays.

@@KW-vy1rf because a series has multiple revenue streams, is cheaper to make and can run for multiple years

And those shows often don't have enough story for long form content (alot of pointless filler episodes).

Yes, and there are so many options on tv/streaming that people can find things they want to watch at home, and going to the theatre becomes less appealing and less exciting

And it's funny that people trash A24 for calling it a flop studio in defense that their movies are bad. A24 is an indie movie, they don't give a single damn about box office, they just wanna make great movies and win as much as awards as they possible. It's sad that people complain that Hollywood lack of originality but when studios like A24 release a good original movie, people barely show up at the theater to support it. I'm starting to get really upset that theaters around me barely shows any A24 movie. The last A24 movie I remember that they shown in theater was Hereditary and that was 3 fucking years ago

@@BryanCostner No, people dislike A24 because they deliberately mis-market their movies. They're an arthouse studio, but consistently advertise their movies as though they'd appeal to mainstream audiences. People expect something along the lines of The Conjuring and get something nothing like it.

@@almightycinder Generalizations are useless. Only time I heard about a A24 film being mismarketed was "It Comes At Night", and even that was still pitched within the horror genre, so in actuality the outcry there isn't even all that valid.

@@tonyward5280 Lamb was pretty mis-marketed , idk A24 is hit or miss in general, to each their own though.

@@almightycinder watch Minari, First Cow, Moonlight, Tragedy of Macbeth, Lady Bird, eight grade trailers and try to tell me those are misleading. There are many others too

Great movie

Exactly. Yes they carry the movies but do they really worth couple hundred million on top of all the back end deal If they all stop giving in to all their demand then they have more money for other resources Eg RDJ is great but it is also the vision the director …etc. if iron man was handled poorly , it would still tanked I’m glad nowadays society don’t treat celebrities like they used to in the 90s when their word were treated like second coming of Jesus Also streaming make me see how much better foreign movies and shows they are now compare to Hollywood

Because if an actor is part of the guild and they play the same role more than once their salary goes up dramtically because it makes them type casted?

@@MiniBeas still don’t think they should be paid monies that they no longer need to work for 20 generations if not more When health care ..etc or even ppl who work on the movies , the stunts that actually risk their lives get paid peanuts Cast of friends still receive millions every year Sure u can argue they bring joy to so many ppl even till now Yes I get it’s how capitalism works but with more choices , social media KZfaq streaming .. glad they don’t have the monopoly like before Just like how this pandemic made many ppl realize they don’t need to be abused just for some earning.

@@dandansfu my post wasn't really trying to defend the actors it was just trying to show that there's already a corrupt Hollywood system in place.

LOVE the empty man!!! I keep talking about it! Desperate to find a hard copy!!

Never even heard of it. Where can I watch it?

Yeah that is incredible……… but it bombed in the box office so don’t expect something like that to happen again

@@tomahawkinc5971 Sad that it bombed but I bet it becomes a cult classic! Technically I think the Shawshank Redemption didn’t do well at the cinema and made its money back from vhs rentals/purchases where everyone who watched it told someone else they had to watch it!!

@@TheDreamfinder99 yeah but Shawshank redemption came out at a time when people actually bought dvd. Everybody just uses streaming services now.

Underrated comment. I think this is true (and not a very obvious reason).

Maybe you need to revisit the films that came out in 2016 - 2017

@@isaiahfreeman there were other good films ofc just these two happened to be on top of my head.

Not gonna lie that movie the empty man sucked

This comment should be much higher up! I'm always the one in conversations to point out that everything old is new again, and I find it almost always brings down the temperament of the conversation, in positive ways.

Good perspective on the bigger picture. Also to piggyback off of what you said, I personally think that the “new thing” in entertainment is gaming. While individual games can and often are more expensive than individual movie tickets, they can also provide entertainment for far longer.

@@TheVirtualObserver That's a good point too! I remember a few years on the show Patriot Act, they had talked about how video games were expected to bring in more than sports, movies, & concerts combined (which I think was going to be around a billion dollars or more). The episode is on youtube if you're interested, but there are a few games I can think of that are cinematic with better stories compared to big movie releases