Why Dragonstone Looked So Much Cooler In The Books
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10 ай бұрынDid you know in the books Dragonstone was a super cool looking castle? This short uses evidence from A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, A Feast for Crows, A Dance with Dragons and The Winds of Winter.
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@noeltojo5125 10 ай бұрын
It is soo gloomy that warrior Prince Maekar didn't live there when he was the heir
@thebombsquad4653 10 ай бұрын
The first Stannis
@alexsam6292 10 ай бұрын
No, it was Maekar's heir, Daeron the Drunken
@norbix-od7rt 10 ай бұрын
Its becouse he was already lord of summerhall
@brunobortolin9197 10 ай бұрын
Baelor Breakspear best Targ ever, he was more of a dornishman indeed 😂😂😂
@thebombsquad4653 10 ай бұрын
@@norbix-od7rt true
@erickzts 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the many reasons for a reboot of ASOIAF but as an animated show
@The80sWolf_ 10 ай бұрын
I rather have a 300 kind of style movie series
@madladexe9450 10 ай бұрын
I would love if it was animated by the same people who do Castlevania because it would look amazing!
@thomaspeters5889 10 ай бұрын
Although I like this idea the literature arts will always out do the visual arts because of the power of imagination.
@jarktonsley4717 10 ай бұрын
@@thomaspeters5889You can't see or hear imagination.
@officialyoungmari 10 ай бұрын
@@jarktonsley4717what is art if not tangible imagination?
@wasteyourtime4031 10 ай бұрын
And the said island itself is also far larger in the books than the show version and it's also an volcanic island that being the primary reason why the freehold chose it as their base in westeros and of course it has a sizable town near dragonstone keep which more or less disappeared in the show, like seriously it looked like the island hadn't been inhabited for decades😅.
@danielhughes5932 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's like a giant city full of targaryan bastards at least the population of flea bottom. Same with driftmark
@connor4435 10 ай бұрын
The islands size is what I was most disappointed about with it in the show, the design of the castle itself is still pretty cool and grand but the island looks like all it is is the castle, it doesn’t have any villages like in the book, it doesn’t have any capacity for war whatsoever whilst in the book it had hundreds of soldiers and the capacity to feed thousands of men which is where stannis’ army came from at the start of the war
@user-op6kt8pg9y 10 ай бұрын
We don't really see dragon stone outside of the actual keep in GoT and even then we only really see the main table room and a random bedroom outside of stannis' introduction
@joshuaadams6565 10 ай бұрын
Well we’ve seen the castle and volcano. I think the small fishing village is going to be on the other side of the volcano. I’m sure they’ll make dragonstone seem a lot bigger in HOTD season 2 (especially because of the dragon seeds storyline). They did a great job expanding the island in season 1 compared to Dragonstone in GOT. They never even showed the volcano in GOT which is shocking.
@jf_kein_k8590 10 ай бұрын
Seriously, it looked like Dragonstone was just the castle with maybe 100 meters of island at most beyond that in all directions.
@ragnarokivae6136 10 ай бұрын
Dragonstone in the shows looks a lot like Minas morgul in lord of the rings
@WitcherGerd 10 ай бұрын
Can’t be a bad thing though, Mimas morgul is just as (if not more) gloomy and terrifying
@cillianhart719 9 ай бұрын
It looks amazing in house of the dragon to be fair
@user-tn5rm8zw9k 8 ай бұрын
Damn i was about to say the same thing
@abyrupus 10 ай бұрын
Also, a key here is that Dragonstone is older than Aegon the Conqueror. The fort was a far outpost of the Valyrian Empire, and the castle was built by Valyrians themselves.
@davidking6242 10 ай бұрын
also Dragonstone has loads of gargoyles and dragon statues and Valyrian architecture, to me, seems very gothic and vampiric if that makes sense. Also the environment is volcanic and smoggy making it less like the rest of westeros and more like Mordor
@xSoulhunterDKx 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention the city there. Davos also mentioned the town, but we never saw it 😢
@davidking6242 10 ай бұрын
@@xSoulhunterDKx yes I think it’s called dragonton and the volcano was called the Dragonmont
@hahaimout1693 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense since the targaryens are already vampires
@Vinzie777 10 ай бұрын
@@davidking6242 So is everything called dragon in Dragonstone? Like Dragonbeach, Dragonforest, Dragoncave, Dragonwell, Dragonhouse, Dragonsmiths, Dragonroom, Dragongarder? 😂
@nadiahapsari3359 9 ай бұрын
Very dark fantasy!
@MonachusRex 10 ай бұрын
Ah Daemon probably loved that place
@constantinetranos2225 10 ай бұрын
Dragonstone's design in the books is otherworldly, fitting for a Dragonlords outpost. In show canon, Valyrians aren't imaginative, they are just like everyone else.
@dragerdet 10 ай бұрын
Looks more realistic in the show
@constantinetranos2225 10 ай бұрын
@@dragerdet Have you ever seen real life Dragonlord buildings?
@dragerdet 10 ай бұрын
@@constantinetranos2225 It's more realistic to the sense that's how some historical castles looked since there's massive amounts of defensive flaws to the book Dragonstone versions
@constantinetranos2225 10 ай бұрын
@@dragerdet Why do you attempt to reality check the structure of buildings made by magic? The whole point of magic is that it can do things that shouldn't really be possible.
@c.johnson1789 10 ай бұрын
Eh. Probably due more to budget concerns. Can you imagine how much that would cost?
@abhishankpaul 10 ай бұрын
Only the Red Keep looks fanstastic in the shows. Eyrie looks decent enough. I don't remember the book versions of Red Keep and Eyrie though
@AFPLJohnny 10 ай бұрын
The Eyrie in the show completely changed from the first time it’s shown o the second and I honestly didn’t think it did a great job at representing the book version, it wasn’t horrible but I definitely think they could’ve improved it.
@DiviAugusti 10 ай бұрын
@frazieromondi9331 was going to mention Horn Hill. In the show they make it look almost like the Doge’s Palace in Venice if it were built during the Roman era.
@jejuanmurphy632 10 ай бұрын
The moon door is completely different. Instead of the stone hole in the ground , which makes no sense because what is supporting the castle underneath if there’s a drop right there , it’s an actual door in the wall made of wierwoid. Once you open it , it leads to a drop hundred of feet to the ground.
@NS-xx1ze 10 ай бұрын
The book actually goes super deep in describing the eyre...
@Vebian 10 ай бұрын
storms end looks dope tho
@platinumdragonslayer6128 10 ай бұрын
I think in the future once the books are actually done, the series should be rebooted as a highly detailed animated series so that way it can be more accurate. Because there’s just many parts in the series that can’t be filmed by live action. Including parts where characters are underage and such. The series is very adult and there’s only so much that can be done when it comes to making sets and costumes and such.
@steadydropnem 10 ай бұрын
My dream in life is that Game of Thrones got adapted into a highly detailed Anime series that lasts thousands of episodes. You’d literally have enough content to do prequels from Before Aegon the conqueror - what happens after season 8 and beyond. it’s the only way the entire series can be properly adapted in detail for an affordable price smh wishful thinking but damn if only if only🤞🏽🤞🏽💯🔥
@wisdomgozieimade1083 10 ай бұрын
@@steadydropnem not Anime tho
@theM13256 10 ай бұрын
A.I. could probably be able to do that an more with regards to 3D and visual effects
@raspberrycrowns9494 10 ай бұрын
If that happens I want the people who animated Castlevania to be in charge. They do good fight scenes, detailed backgrounds, a bit gorey but not enough that'd make you want to look away, and they'd pretty much mastered what an animated northern cloak would look like
@vixxxenfoxxx3660 10 ай бұрын
@@raspberrycrowns9494I definitely have to agree, I think only the people behind Castlevania could really do GoT justice...anime speaking wise at least.
@nela3986 10 ай бұрын
They missed a lot of opportunities to make stuff amazing. They were so worried to make it look normal that they left out a lot of the fantastic stuff. Leaving lady Stoneheart out was the worst.
@cheekguardian1378 10 ай бұрын
Why the hell did they make all this the opposite of cool
@joshjimenez9314 10 ай бұрын
You realize the creator wrote the show right?
@jay-uu3sc 10 ай бұрын
@@joshjimenez9314no he didnt lol
@joshjimenez9314 10 ай бұрын
@@jay-uu3sc he didn't write the whole thing but he most definitely did that's why he's got writing credits for the show
@jay-uu3sc 10 ай бұрын
@@joshjimenez9314 nope, D&D wrote the show and were showrunners. They unfortunately had total control of the show.
@mubarakusman9184 10 ай бұрын
Dragonstone is still my favorite stronghold in the entire series. The volcano, the castle itself, the location, the Valyrian cultural vestiges etc >>> I want a Lego set of it one day
@_antillas8674 10 ай бұрын
Ah, the naïve dreams of getting Lego Game of Thrones…
@SuperstitiousWolf 7 ай бұрын
omg i would love a lego set of that hah , if they like did it right , which i doubt , but either way it would be awesome :3
@brianmerritt5410 10 ай бұрын
George Martin has admitted that actually building the sets to the scale described in the books is near impossible for a TV show. The sheer size of Winterfell, HighGarden, and the Iron Throne itself would blow the budget of an entire episode.
@lonemotheomatshaba9640 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if Dragonstone has a secret chamber like the Winterfell Crypts were only Targaryens are allowed to know where it's hidden which us where they hide all their dragon eggs Like it's always bugged me that Stannis was always so broke like where are all the dragon eggs?! We know Targaryen children give them back when they don't hatch and they're never mentioned in Kingslanding
@loooongneck 10 ай бұрын
"I resent your implication, Swyft," Mace Tyrell said, bristling. "No wealth was found on Dragonstone, I promise you. My son's men have searched every inch of that damp and dreary island and turned up not so much as a single gemstone or speck of gold. Nor any sign of this fabled hoard of dragon eggs." Kevan Lannister had seen Dragonstone with his own eyes. He doubted very much that Loras Tyrell had searched every inch of that ancient stronghold. The Valyrians had raised it, after all, and all their works stank of sorcery. And Ser Loras was young, prone to all the rash judgments of youth, and had been grievously wounded storming the castle besides. But it would not do to remind Tyrell that his favorite son was fallible. "If there was wealth on Dragonstone, Stannis would have found it," he declared. "Let us move along, my lords. We have two queens to try for high treason, you may recall. My niece has elected trial by battle, she informs me. Ser Robert Strong will champion her." -ADWD, Epilogue
@The80sWolf_ 10 ай бұрын
The dragon statues are sleeping..... for now
@Moyokoyani 8 ай бұрын
Well as far as I know and remmenber, at the end of Roberts Rebellion, the mother of Daenerys was in Dragonstone with is son, then she birth Daenerys and die there, Stannis was sent by Robert to kill the Queen and his son and daughter, but the Targaryen kids with some servants escape before Stannis arrive at Dragonstone, is very save to say the servants took a lot of things before leave Dragonstone.
@lonemotheomatshaba9640 8 ай бұрын
@@Moyokoyani you'd think the servants would try to sell them back or something
@Moyokoyani 8 ай бұрын
@@lonemotheomatshaba9640 Sell them? Sure, but as far as I remember, there has been no information about it, maybe they used them to care for and move Viserys and Daenerys all there years around the Free Cities.
@stc3145 10 ай бұрын
You should do a video on Winterfell if you havent. The book version is massive and awesome but the show version is pathetic
@danielhughes5932 10 ай бұрын
The hot springs making it a winter paradise is the best book detail
@alterego8351 9 ай бұрын
Dragonstone is one of those places where you get the feeling like " These are statues right? They wont come alive will they???"
@SnailHatan 10 ай бұрын
House of the Dragon did the castles sooo much better than GoT, and even they didn’t get anywhere near the insanity of book castles
@stew-03 7 ай бұрын
Storms end was cool
@galemusgrove4589 10 ай бұрын
Wow 😮.... Way more Gothic feel in the book, Dragon Stone. I like it 😊
@nunyabiznes33 10 ай бұрын
Dragonmont is continuously spewing ash so Dragonstone do look kinda gloomy, at least away from areas of volcanic activity. Probably feels like Silent Hill in some places.
@lowkeylifelearner 10 ай бұрын
GoT's Dragonstone looked like a perfect place for dragons (aka cats with wings) to fly around & perch on 😂
@cvdirecto5008 9 ай бұрын
It sounded lovely and beautiful to me when I was reading the book passage for the first time:')
@og8263 10 ай бұрын
Ok now I'm convinced an AI writes the script for these videos
@vcrbetamax 9 ай бұрын
The scariest thing about Dragonstone, would be dealing with Patch Face walking around.
@gamegod273 10 ай бұрын
I kind of like that they keep it relatively grounded. It makes the actual magical or whimsical elements stand out and seem distinct from the world
@happilyevernever4289 9 ай бұрын
Make this an animated series.😢😢 Maybe then we can see all the cool architecture.
@ryanwilliams9751 10 ай бұрын
Reading AFFC and just got to where they ended the seige on Dragonstone. Its said that Ser Loras was first through, riding right into the dragons mouth at the gate.
@HunterSol 9 ай бұрын
One of the more useful changes I made to my 2017 Seat Leon with OBD11 was to set the wing mirrors to only fold out after turning the engine on instead of unlocking. Pretty useful if you're in and out if the car whilst parked and don't want to wear the motors out!
@norbix-od7rt 10 ай бұрын
It just be like that everything in the books looks cooler than in the show
@m97polska 8 ай бұрын
It would be cool if they created an animeted show that adapts the book very faithfully. It would be easier to just draw all those crazy designs.
@Strongest_under_heaven 10 ай бұрын
Rare instance where I prefer the show version
@princesspumpkin4296 10 ай бұрын
It other words people couldn't make it themselves in real life because how terrifying it is.
@thothrep 9 ай бұрын
you'd think they'd stop with the dragons when they turned the living room into a dragon belly
@Shirley.Temper 8 ай бұрын
MTV deffo re-used the concept of bridge and tunnel - anyone remember the valleys in the UK? Working class people from wales would move into a share house in Cardiff but it also showed them pursuing their dream careers like modelling and music. It was also super messy and insane like these other shore shows but no on seems to remember it
@xabbitz6148 9 ай бұрын
The 3rd image is what GRRM said is pretty much what dragonstone would look like
@TaeSunWoo 9 ай бұрын
I feel like GRRM wrote some of the stuff thinking like “lmaoooo this will never get adapted”
@rajon94 10 ай бұрын
The show version doesn't even have a Volcano smh
@OntarioAtOrion 9 ай бұрын
The show version reminds me of star forts around the world in real life on Earth. In the books it was so cool. Every building was a dragon and even the kitchens were a curled up dragon amd the smoke from the ovens came out its nostrils! I also believe the well at dragonstone had a secret entrance similar to the red keeps well and the well at the Night Fort. In ACOK in the first 5 pages Shireen mentions seeing Dalla and a guy called Maurice standing at the well. Maurice/Mance perhaps. and Dalla/Rhaella or Ashara maybe? Dalla ends up with Mance and Val...There is some secret hidden in those characters in the books....
@sanjaykarthicks1226 10 ай бұрын
HOTD did the painted table thing right
@user92248 10 ай бұрын
I was so disappointed in stannis' war council like where is the fabled giant ass table
@vcrbetamax 9 ай бұрын
Dave Filoni was the inspiration for Brokeback Mountain.
@Colin-um5tz 10 ай бұрын
I kinda like the frown design in the show because it looks like a throne carved into obsidian
@steveandme63 10 ай бұрын
I did like how in the new series they lit a fire underneath the table to illuminate it.
@stephenjames2159 10 ай бұрын
I read dance of dragons when it came out. I'm not rereading it until after I read the next so this channel better stay up for the next half decade when George finally finishes the book with to many expectations.
@sindelscat9336 Ай бұрын
Explains a lot
@Devastator21 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if the guys who did castlevania on netflix did asoif after the books are finished
@shiny_red5801 10 ай бұрын
*me reading a book* “Man this visuals are amazing.”
@shaylenwayne9284 7 ай бұрын
It would've been cool to see that but i could imagine the work that would've taken.
@marine47ncaa25 7 ай бұрын
Never cared much for Targaryen’s in the original show (Hated every scene with Danny) but HOTD was so fire it got me reading the entire series! Fire & Blood is incredible if y’all haven’t checked it out! They’ve gotta make a show about Aegon’s conquest, it would be biblical.
@jimmymcgill2557 9 ай бұрын
are we not gonna talk about how more badass that table is in HOTD...the lightening of the candles and everything? wish we saw it as it was meant to be in Game of thrones!
@thomasfoster1181 10 ай бұрын
It looks cooler cause books have an unlimited budget
@kirbymarchbarcena 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see the book version be done live-action
@justinmcdonald2072 8 ай бұрын
Honestly most important imaginary imagery is so fantastical, they dare you to try to construct it as a prop in reality.
@frankmartinez7286 10 ай бұрын
This would be so much better as a series they can produce more and have more characters involved
@SammyTheCat 10 ай бұрын
This is just stunning, wow I am blown away by her voice! I love you Halle 😭❤️❤️
@DrTolis 9 ай бұрын
One Westerosi lord once commented that Stannis Baratheon must love his daughter very much since he made all the statues on Dragonstone look like her
@zakiducky 10 ай бұрын
Both look pretty awesome imo, even if differing in design.
@robinrehlinghaus1944 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I really wish the negative framing of all things medieval would end, but alas...
@virajbhabad7 10 ай бұрын
Has any artist made the real version of dragonstone?
@Badbl2od 10 ай бұрын
What's the song you're using in the background?
@tw0crows74 8 ай бұрын
In about 20 or 30 years we'll get an Animated ASOIAF closer to the books, I hope!
@jomarabelguilas3945 10 ай бұрын
Now you know why my lord King Stannis Baratheon is pissed at getting dragonstone
@hpsauce1078 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I prefer the look of Dragonstone in the show as to how it is described in the books, I always found the descriptions of dragonstone pulled me out of my suspension of disbelief when its incredibly impractical and physically unlikely design is brought up, I know the Valyrians are supposed to be magic, but for me all the dragon statues and gargoyles are too much. I think the design in the show still clearly demonstrates a Valyrian level of technology beyond that of the regular Westerosi whilst still clearly giving off the language that this was originally the seat for a very minor Valyrian family, the castle is stark and more practical which is appropriate for what the Valyrian empire would have needed such a structure for, as more of a waypoint between the lands of the western barbarians and their freehold. The castle is still alien and impressive, but also looks like a formidable realistic castle in its own right instead of a magic disneyesque castle.
@notjohncena6492 9 ай бұрын
Ned stark once said "one does not simply walk into dragonstone"
@blakeandthecake4368 10 ай бұрын
They really have to make something animated for this series so we can see all the cool shit in full accurate glorious detail.
@SuperCrow02 9 ай бұрын
It looks good in the show, I just wish we ever saw the inside of the castle besides the council chamber and throne room. Definitely looks better than Winterfell.
@bargainbrandmilk9858 10 ай бұрын
show dragon stone still looks really cool, and the table in the war room looks really sick
@caomouse8829 10 ай бұрын
if you go down deeper, you will find dragonBALLS, which can grant 1 wish.
@joemoe650 8 ай бұрын
One of the best things the show did was lean away from these fabtastical descdiptions to more grounded aesthrtics. It makes the fanatasy pop more and the themes hit harder. I knoq thia is unpopular but i feel its one of the core reasons the show was such a hig
@thomaskunz3089 8 ай бұрын
Gonna b honest, dragonstone looks very nice in the series as well, has that "dark fortress" vibe, and thats what its supposed to be.
@Diva2011Girl 10 ай бұрын
I love the book design but the show design is cool also and intimidating.
@warm_upmycold_pants3388 6 ай бұрын
Shit looks lit as fuck. Why couldn't we get that?!!
@parasjadhav3393 10 ай бұрын
by the way which software do you use for the graphic design in the video?
@what76485 8 ай бұрын
I keep thinking it’s alt shift X at the begin
@BedyBARNARD 5 ай бұрын
They usually painted everything in white
@yashvirsinghdalal 9 ай бұрын
This just convinces me more and more that a live action is somewhat limiting the world building.
@mithicash1444 9 ай бұрын
I like Dragonstone. It actually has the shape of a fortress. Those star-shaped walls would be inmpossible.
@VivaCubaRoja 10 ай бұрын
It’s been a while since I read the books. Does anyone know who made the Painted Table? I know Aegon Targaryen I had it made but, I was curious who physically designed and built it. Having a skilled cartographer and woodworker would have been quite useful to an invading army that wasn’t familiar with the territory that they were try to invade.
@cooperminion825 10 ай бұрын
I think it was done through magic. To be able to create such detail on such a large scale (I always think of the table as being around 100 feet long) would be practically impossible for a master woodcarver or a master cartographer
@eldonte7775 10 ай бұрын
So what you expect an outpost of an slaver empire lead by blood sorcerers with an obsession with dragons to actually look like
@TheDoctorfat 7 ай бұрын
Lots of people are mentioning how the show's version of the castle looks so bland or boring, and the reason for that, is because the producers had a lot of trouble finding a good location for the castle's CGI, George himself said that it was one of the most difficult locations to do for the show. In the end both he and the producers settled on what we see now in the show, the beach of San Juan de Gaztelugatxe
@katmartindale8049 10 ай бұрын
When making movies budget and space often are the reasons for changes.
@Dr_Diaz 9 ай бұрын
Is there a manga version of all these books?
@seanskre1717 10 ай бұрын
wow congrats on the targaryens for not loolong like the badguys
@RainAngel111 9 ай бұрын
Wanted to save on that CGI and prop budget I see
@darkojankovic9607 10 ай бұрын
Those dragons look like Alduin
@thechromosomebandit540 10 ай бұрын
Song name
@grimsgraveyard3598 9 ай бұрын
Wonder why they let the magic ability be forgotten among their people, or why they didn't do everything they could to rejuvenate the dragonrider bloodline.
@Kayd2111 5 ай бұрын
Imagine an open world game of the Seven Kingdoms etc. Similar to Hogwarts Legacy and RDR2.. You get to pick which family to be a part of, and depending on choices and battles/wars, you could end up being a King or Queen. It would probably take 10 years to make it but would be worth it.
@Wordlifematt 9 ай бұрын
Except the Targaryens thought of it as home. When they see dragons, they see “us”
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Somebody needs to redo that show
@kylejohnson3889 9 ай бұрын
They really should make a game of thrones owrpg in the style of the Witcher 3
@There_Is_No_War_In_Ba_Sing_Se 9 ай бұрын
Ah budget the greatest enemy
@ah20292 9 ай бұрын
In books it was drawing. In the series, it was VFX. VFX affects budget.
@cheeseforeveryone 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately our world doesn’t have many castles occupying it that look like multiple bloody dragons 😆
@luckystrike7960 10 ай бұрын
Human imagination cant be matched in no movies, if you read the books you will be disapointed with every movie.
@robinbauer1975 9 ай бұрын
So it is basically like something out of Mordor
@kardoxfabricanus7590 10 ай бұрын
can we just get good shows with dragons instead of dumb and dumber?
@beplanking 9 ай бұрын
"It was bigger in the books," could be said of most things lol
@mitedupev7956 9 ай бұрын
The table is faar bigger, and all the castles...
@gimmeyourrights8292 10 ай бұрын
It all sounds cool but it would be impossible to translate into Live Action without CGI.
@OldBaldWookiee 5 ай бұрын
Prob would have been alot more expensive to make it like the books is my guess
@cncdan1364 9 ай бұрын
Still a very cool tradition look. I mean I guess they didn’t want to make everything look too fantastical why would people build like that. Making statues of dragons ya but humans would never think to build craze like that. I thought it made it more believable
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