Awesome! Often times I think some of these changes come from necessity. Like we mentioned, we've both had health issues that 'couldn't' be solved by mainstream medicine, so we've had to find our own answers. Get out! hah, we would have loved for the American Dream to still be possible in America, but we don't believe it really is anymore. Funny enough, much of what makes up that dream is possible here. What temps are you aiming for? We ended up a little warmer than we prefer, but the plant sure like it better!

@@tinyhandsbigdreams regarding temps, we currently live on the central east coast of Florida. It's pretty great here... I have noticed what you have mentioned about "the American dream" to be true in Ecuador! We have so many dreams. Looking forward to visiting....how to get there is the situation. Praying about it all the time.

But won't Trump's 3rd term fix things? Or perhaps, just give a little more time to figure out how to leave the has-been corrupt USA? I think I would really enjoy the easier pace-of-life, better ways of doing things, and lower cost-of-living of Ecuador. Still trying to find the great motivator, or especially legal status so that I can move also. But I want to ship a container and bring all of my stuff. Too much culture shock to just start over. I do not feel like I belong in the USA any longer. Is the grass greener, most anywhere else? Once I can buy a house in Ecuador, and get my legal status somehow?, I think that I need to pack up my stuff and just leave. Plan A, *not* Plan B. Get out soon (Plan A), not just merely have a option to leave if things get too bad (Plan B). I like Ecuador for some reason that I can not yet quite describe. El Salvador looks rather small on the map. I have hardly even heard of Paraguay. Like you all, I much distrust Big Pharma and Big "greed-based" Medicine. But I know not much about the "alternatives". I never got the jab during the plan-demic, as I was around people the entire time and worked my job, and I knew that the face diapers do not work. I do not like the cold. I would like to never again see snow. But I do not like so much the outdoors or having to mow grass or trim bushes. Maybe I need an affordable gardener? I was thinking maybe I should live near Cuenca in Ecuador. Probably near some expats, as my Spanish is quite unacceptable. I likely will improve once I live there.

That is so sad about your doctor. So sad.

wow. So many stories like that...we sidestepped the whole C shot thing, lost friends and family members over it. But the health of us and our future generations are waaaay too important.

Also wondering what kind of nature you get out there. Fishing? Hunting?

@@user-MGTOWerIt’s cloudforest

Vets are just like doctors, they only learn from the medical schools, these schools are financially fed from pharmaceutical giants companies that only want to make money. So they only learn when you have this, you prescribe that. They don't know what is causing the problem, I believe in functional medicine. I also had multiple really bad experiences with doctors so I avoid them at all cost. Research and prevention, eating whole foods and staying away from all chemicals products.

@brianhansen2202 We're actually not in the cloud forest, that's the northern part of the amazonian area.

Hi! Can I ask why you would feel the need to carry a firearm here? We don't, and don't feel any need whatsoever. We're neither one opposed to them in principle and would like to own again when we can, but have never once felt the need for protection here. Where we live is incredibly safe. There is a process to legally own a firearm here, and depending on who you ask it's either cheap and easy or expensive and a difficult process. Definitely would need to have a certain level of Spanish speaking or possibly a translator for the process. If we get more details we'll share, but we haven't prioritized the purchase yet. As far as properties around our area (near Yantzaza) it will range anywhere from $1000 to $10,000 an acre. There is a slim possibility of snagging a spot for less (we did) but it's not as common. This will depend on exact location/proximity to a town, if the land is cleared at all, does it have legal access and/or a road, power, water, etc.