@@perfectibilist exactly

American thugs

No when the NBA allowed to be physical, allowed bumping Euro Basketball can't match the NBAbeven though they are much better in shooting and playing in a system. Once the physicality was gone the best players in the world came from Europe.

Ja morant😅 in the nutshell...Good jumping ability and offense but damn he average on defense despite having athleticism

​​@@zinjgreen3398 I beg to differ...Dirk nowitzki exist...Pau exist...Kukoc exist...Just because athleticism been removed didn't mean they can't dominate...At that time, NBA barely went international so there are smaller sample that European player can't play in that era...If Giannis exist in that era , he for sure dominate a lot of top player especially with no offensive foul

This comment is just the video, but with no punctuation.

Houston we have a culture problem.

@@ntrong32even Kobe said the same thing.

@@swen1208Because Kobe was trained and taught the basic fundamentals of the game of basketball in Europe.

This: USA great on ball skill, EU great off ball skills. AAU kids learn how to create highlight reals and huge box scores, EU Club kids learn how to play as a team and how to win.

Last decade yeah

Doesn’t mean he’s right

Kobe said a lot of things, he spend the last decade of his career and his unfortunately short retirement giving his opinion about absolutely everything, but for some reason we dont often bring up is shit takes tho

@@hashbrown4278 I mean, some mvp caliber players say this, while they played in the 2 championships. Maybe it's true ?

@@nicolascamus3417 doesn’t mean they’re right

Well, kinda, but even more significant is the smaller court in FIBA and no 3-second rule under the basketball... This means it's MUCH easier to play defense and not get exposed, as long as you know what you are doing. Team USA doesn't know how to play under these circumstances and they get lit up by Lithuania for 110 points in a 40-minute game... Most FIBA games end with 78-85 type scorelines... These teams know they don't have to run around like headless chicken they just need to be compact on defense and that's it... I think if you gave the US players 1 year to adjust to FIBA and having the same teammates like these EURO teams do, they'd be winning most games by 30 again... The talent gap is still huge for the most part... Jose Alvarado has destroyed Italy and Lithuania recently... And you're telling me a team made up of 12 players much better than him can't do it? There's no way it's because of lack of skill or talent... It's purely because of other things like lack of experience, lack of chemistry, lack of team hierarchy, poor roster construction etc.

Which makes sense since it's staffed by coaches and players who grew up watching 90s NBA basketball

Bro, did you watch 90s NBA? The illegal defence rule made it an iso heavy game. European basketball is very team defence oriented, something that wasnt possible with illegal defence. I dont understand why you think 90s NBA was anything like European basketball...

nope 😂😂😂

Sound fundamentals exactly.

Wrong

@@MikeTheDno

Not the individual fundamentals but the collective fundamentals of basketball.

The problem that Americans have is that they don't use the collective tools of basketball because in the NBA the players don't need them. The players are far too strong individually and beat their defenders 1 on 1. So why use the pass if 2 dribbles are enough to create your shot or lay up.

I mean with a lot physicality it for sure will add injury..With no physicality still a lot of player got injured, imagined when physicality exist it would at more injury

Such a dumb take. Remove defense and offense takes no skill at all.

Adam silver is a dumbass

Adam Silver spoke for what fans think, not for what he thinks. And he's right. The new generation doesnt appreciate defense and physicality. He simply adjusted the rules to make offense easier for casual watchers so they'd be interested.

@@Dotsetc its too easy to blame the consumer imo. Happens everywhere. We assume people are too lazy or stupid to want a quality product. Even if they are, its not their fault, just a product of their environment.

For very casual watchers it might be exciting but after watching for some time it becomes boring, like watching an exhibition match. And this isn't coming from me, this is the reason my a friend gave on why she stopped watching the NBA after just 1 season

EXACTLY

You clearly didn't watch the playoffs

@@maartenvz watched at least 3 games of every series, been digesting basketball since 1990 my guy…

You say that like his Body type isn’t hand in hand with his style same for Giannis. If you’re built like that you better fucking drive it, travel or not

That's one of the things that made Kobe so unique as an NBA player -- raised by an NBA player, trained in Europe in his youth. That's why he was able to objectively call out the AAU circuit many years ago in a way somebody who's stayed in America all their lives wouldn't know.

@@jordanjenkins1671no. Kobe was very iso

Kobe learned nothing from the collective game of basketball in Italy! He just learned to work on his dribbling and his use of footwork. But Kobe played exactly the NBA game perfectly, 1 against 1 against his defender and even often 1 against 2.

And the ratings have suffered ever since

@@jqualls7901 I remember when NBA ratings were at all time highs in the 90's

Name one ?

Please, this comment adds nothing to the discussion. What rule are you talking about? The main problem is not the rules but the fact that refs often wont call by the rules...

​@@shaunphillips3236and revenue was at an all time low after Jordan retired....

He was really starting to find himself as a major force in the NBA.

The first international player to play in the NBA was Hank Biasatti in 1946

Dražen would have been so good. He was like a more physical Reggie Miller.

Exactly, if they went back to man defense and got rid of zone defense, a lot of Euros would be unplayable.

I disagree. I think that a good number of the players would learn to adjust to that.

@@InverselyComplicated-ve3lsAnd a lot of the American born players would be unplayable also

@@user-lt1fx2he5swrong. That a lie

Someone that actually knows what they are talking about.

You do know that all Euroleague teams play in their national leagues as well... right? Thats another 30+ reg season games + playoffs... Euroleague Teams play around 75-100 games each season as well...

@@Smido83 exactly! i.e. in serbian basketball best teams play euroleague (minimum 34 games+p/o min 5g). then they play the regional "champions league", the aba league (minimum 26 games+p/o min.7g). then there is the state league and cup with the minimum of 7 games. other non regional countries play more in their own state league and cup because they dont have a joined league - the aba league. so yeah about 75 games per season is a minimum.

I really wouldn't mind less games in an NBA season if it meant greater quality of product.

@@jordanjenkins1671 Yes it's just obligatory to have fewer games to increase the level of a game. Today in the NBA no teams train 5 vs 5. They spend their time traveling and preparing for games. The only training that the players do is training alone in front of the basket with personal trainers and in addition for the players who play the game, it is often 1 to 2 hours before the game. They therefore do not have any collective training except the 2 to 3 week training camp which is physical preparation training.

you do know that the best shooter,dribbler,rebounder,defender,passers of all time are american right?

@@JRRM97 I’m talking about current era obviously which is why I said American players don’t put the work in anymore.

They care about likes, being a celebrity and women

@@dreamcage1801you’re lying

@@jackpackage4278that’s not true

And yet. This years Celtics won on primarily defence and moving the ball to an open shooter or driving to the hoop on offence. People call it "boring" :)

@@Jonteponte71Also look at how many threes they got up as a team

Wrong

No, that would be denying the history of the NBA! These rules were not created for fun! Everything is a consequence of the past. If you remove the 3 second rule then for someone like wembanyama of 7.5 it would be too easy to stay and wait for the ball. In Europe this is the case but the collective game is much more advanced and the ball moves much more than in the NBA which is an individual game league

It’s ruined the league

yep thats why there is only 3 european fmvps since 2000, thats why the best player in euroleage history failed in the nba and went back to europe

​@@JRRM97Okay. And?

​@@urbaindelva7869he's hinting that all that"euro dominance" shit is bs

@@JRRM97And look at the teams their team beat. And talk about the MVPs that the Europeans have won since 2019. Talk about the 4 out of the 5 players that made first team all nba are European/international players.

@@akirosakuragi9279 it is

No

No

​@@hashbrown4278 Indeed. We just have superior talent aquisition and kid training facilities, with a lot of local team's facilities supported by the local governments. Sport is a social policy here. It's a luxury in the US.

@@marcbuisson2463 sane in the us

@@hashbrown4278 Not on our level, nor with clubs being fully integrated with the youth training academies. There's a reason why we're producing with more regularity than any other countries some of the best players in football, rugby, basketball or handball every year in the world. There's a reason for why even amongst afro-american players, the share of NBA players coming from a poor background is lower than the percentage of poors in the US. Families have to invest in their kids, much more so than here.

@@marcbuisson2463 production isn’t really that high. Only a few euro players are at the top.

Because they reward this cheap style of basketball. In Europe similar to FIBA, that doesn't slide. Real hoopers expose this.

You should watch some of his Madrid games. He does that now because that’s what the NBA rewards

that's why he and Slovenia had lost to Croatia few days ago, and got crushed by Greece and Giannis an hour ago. He was whining and looking towards the refs, but they just waved him away

Makes sense considering LebUm china Flop fruad king JMes was his idol

Luka does play defense. He does wine a lot. I will give you that

And they get to the league and teams game plan for them

Y'all so obsessed with l.b.j in son dam

Wrong

bird isnt european nor are there any good europeans that play like him, and 2 of the best european players luka and giannis play like bron/harden(luka) and shaq(giannis)

When he talks about Bird, it was just an analogy, and he's right. European players are much more complete, like Bird was in his era.

@@christopheb.6121 european players are not complete tho, jokic and luka cant defend, giannis and wemby are the only european players that are good at everything, and his analogy is dumb because lebron is a more complete player than bird

@@JRRM97giannis isn’t good at everything. Can’t really shoot

Instead of working on their game to win championships and get better

That’s a lie

@@user-lt1fx2he5sanother lie. Celtics just won the championship and likely to win another

D-Rose refined his skills after the damage was already done. If he had done that earlier in his career, things would've turned about better for him.

@@urbaindelva7869 FOH w/ that BS. It was a non-contact injury. Nothing could've prevented his injuries. The point is refined, or even more skills doesn't automatically mean better. Sometimes pure unbridled freakish athletic ability transcends the sport and supercedes any skill level. Pre-injury Rose was so special he created so many unprecedent plays at such a breakneck speed, brutal power, and had as much hangtime as any player his size ever had to improvise on the fly, pun intended. Remember his double-pump pass to Noah ad he floated in midair? That's superskills only possible because of his athleticism. Rose was like the Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee of shorter NBA PGs. I used to say Rose was a better, next-level Westbrook but with a Brain and way more clutch control over games. Players were scared of Rose. Recently, Giannis was the undisputed best player on the planet using his freakish athletic ability even though he wasn't as skilled as others. The Best that Basketball ever gets is when the freakish 1% of it's athletes do things we've never or rarely seen. At it's purest Basketball is the one sport where the possibilities of athletic ability pushing the boundaries of human physicality can be realized. It's what allowed Jordan to take the Game global and captivated the imagination of so many people worldwide.

​@@heirrose1606"Non contact injury" that nothing could prevent? Bro, you just showed that you don't know what you're talking about. His worst injury was the result of awful fundamentals. He was reckless. Completely out of control. On top of that he didn't even take the time to learn how to land from his jumps

@@TheJinjo75 You're lame af asking players to hold back their athleticism. He did it on a fundamental simple 2 footed jump stop. Tf are you talking about? Ja is reckless, Westbrook was reckless, but Rose was in control and balanced as he went 100mph. That's what made him different. Rose was like a cat on his landings and rarely fell off balance. Go back and do your homework because most of his awkward falls were a result of fouls or contact with Bigs.

@@heirrose1606 Did you even watched Bulls games back them? They constantly talked about his recklessness on those broadcasts. Rose in the Bulls was more like Iverson in the sixers. Almost exactly alike. Both of them shaved years from their prime thanks to their reckless style of playing. Is not holding back. Its protecting their body.

They have more talent

Wrong

lmao

USA culture is just completely cluttered

No

@@dreamcage1801no

Also these American born players don’t spend enough time in college to learn team basketball, how to break down defenses, setting screens, pick and rolls etc

@@user-lt1fx2he5sthat wasn’t an issue decades ago though. That shouldn’t be an excuse.

@@Manus_0813Because back then players actually wanted to stay in college for multiple years to work on their game and weaknesses. These players nowadays are money driven to get to the league.

No, they wouldn't because most of them are old and retired now.

@@snakebitten6967 Giannis might have played if Europe, but he’s not European

Factssss

@@javonestephens7856 Bro I keep telling people that. European players WANT to be the best. American players WANT to get paid. It's 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things. That's why American players are ok with losing because at the end of the day, they're still rich

@@shaunphillips3236 name 6 european players today who are top 15 in the nba, name 5 europeans that are not luka,jokic,giannis,wemby,kp

Real men don’t play real men no more

@@JRRM97 U forgot Embiid too

Energetic, persistent, coordinated defence is a thing of beauty and highly entertaining. But you damn well have to know the game to appreciate the beauty of D. D takes sustained effort. Silver, with his unravelling of the rules, has spared far too many of today's players of the need for that kind of intense effort.

@@douglasreid7330 With the 5 out modern offense I think the value of defense has surely gone up. And teams have started to recognise that. You can't send help anymore without giving up a good look to a decent shooter.I think nba defense is far more beautiful and physically taxing if executed properly..It's just that players think they can get those points back on the other than and put in less effort.

@@kishorhegde7218 agreed. When it is played. However, the space to be covered, the moving pucks with all the attending extra-curricular activities, and the refs have softened the league and the players.

He’s lying

Don't put Jokic with these 2, he's not a paper tiger like them.

@@logomarkz he's definitely a step above but not particularly tough.

They're NBA players. Watch one high level Euro game and you'll see what tough is

It's so inaccurate. Where is the domination? I just don't see it. And I don't live this era of the nba. But they're not dominating. That's just a fact

@@caladanrude6395 exactly, if there are only 5-6 elite non americans in the nba then they clearly arent dominating anything

That doesn't change the fact that Jokic, Giannis, Luka and other Europeans have been dominating, while the two dpoy candidates are European as well

@@terterman8585 your comment is nonsensical. I'm saying they are NOT dominating. How are they dominating? If you can enlighten, me please do

@@caladanrude6395 OK, the NBA is an American league, 3 of the top 5 players are European, the two best defenders in the league are European, the top picks in the last drafts are European, and I reiterate, the NBA is an American league. Maybe domination is not the correct term, but American dominance is no longer

for your information en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroLeague_career_statistical_leaders

They haven’t surpassed

Bronny can't play for the Euroleague. If he averages 4 points in college , he won't make it half-court in EUroleague. Don't forget that Pat Bev was a bench rider for Olympiacos Maybe if he plays for China or something , i don't know how good their league is

Wrong

@@user-mp2fb9ku5opat Bev is a bad example

In Europe they play real basketball, in the United States it's more of a show than a sport, which brings them a lot of money. It is therefore normal that European players want to play in the NBA, not only are they paid more but to do less.

@@RhumFrthat’s a lie. You’re lying

America became sissies

one got luck out because kd feet r little bigger, the other one straight just bubble ring against heat. this past nba final just show another fraud who spend all day complaining and 0 defending. tougher my ass

Oh they’re going to get ran off the court

I’ll be back once the US basketball team wins gold easily at the Olympics and I expect the same energy then as you all have now

Yea. What's funny is that USA bench is scarier then starting five.

​​@@kylofoox1382Ikr? I can't believe these weaklings are acting tough when we all know it will be the easiest gold ever for team USA

@@kylofoox1382 Kobe is not coming back from the grave to avenge LeBrob and KD

None really dominate

@@hashbrown4278 giannis, Luka, jokic

@@kdog2646 luka just lost in the finals. Giannis and jokic have been one and don’t so far. Not so dominate

@@hashbrown4278 5 mvps and they were in the finals 🤷

@@kdog2646 doesn’t mean dominate. Individual awards and finals appearances then lebron is the much better then them all but a lot

No

@@hashbrown4278yea

Wrong