I find that the empire is usually justified in conflicts like these. They almost never fire the first shot.

The Empire was surprisingly reasonable compared to what they usually were. I mean, the fact that regular army troopers tried using riot shields to detain the crowd goes to show they weren't there to pick a fight. The Empire only fired in self-defense; if the crowd dispersed, they would've been left alone.

I'm Shocked, just shocked they let her spew her treasonous rabble as long as they did.

The empire are health care professionals.

Thank you. This is exactly what I've been telling people. This is a post I made elsewhere about the riot: If you really think about it, the Empire responded well within reason, holding the line and initially only using stun weapons to arrest and detain the rioters, the order to fire was withheld until the terrorist threw an IED into the imperial line. Additionally, notice how Lieutenant Keysax only sent one stormtrooper to arrest the belltower as an inciter when he could've sent several or even blown it up. Long Live The Empire

I feel all of this could have been avoided if the troopers just used the stun setting

"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." -The Client

Well, they did tourture and hang Salman Paak in the square based on Tigo's dialogue in ep 9. The sense of community between Ferrix locals was strong, even in the early episodes when the Corpos arrive. The mounting tensions on both sides eventually resulted in an outburst. On another note, the Empire shown in Andor is not portrayed as restoring "peace and order" - the treatment of the Aldani locals and the existence of Narkina 5 are both prime examples of horrible cruelty (towards humans, btw)

Also please make more of these!

"We've been sleeping. We've had each other, and Ferrix, our work, our days. We had each other and they left us alone. We kept the trade lane open, and they left us alone. We took their money and ignored them, we kept their engine churning, and the moment they pulled away. we forgot them. *(SIGH)* Because we had each other. We had Ferrix. But we were sleeping. I've been sleeping. And I've been turning away from the truth I wanted not to face. There is a wound that won't heal at the center of the galaxy. There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow, and now it's here. It's here and it's not visiting anymore. *It wants to stay."*

Are we just going to forget the whole torturing and executing people thing. Hell their first time there after the Clone Wars involved executing a guy who was trying to get people not to throw things at them.

I love Andor because it shows the Star Wars universe as a real place. The Empire is authoritarian and generally evil, but the common Imperials aren't cartoon villains out to kill and torture literally everyone.

It reminds me of a scene in The Expanse's final season. Marco Inaros abandons Ceres, leaves it crippled and incapable of feeding itself, and set off a giant bomb that killed more Belters on the station than Inner soldiers. The station administrator still tries to start an insurrection against the Earth-Mars alliance that is holding the station together, and calls Camina Drummer, who just delivered a bunch of supplies she stole from Inaros, an Inner collaborator for turning on the guy who killed her two fatherly mentors and repeatedly mistreating her. So far, the only thing that the Empire has actually done to incur their animosity, is hanging the bombmaker's father for selling stolen military equipment.

Long live the empire!

"Although the Empires methods are rather harsh at times" the empire and it's attack dogs have unceremoniously executed like a dozen at least people for expressing minor descent, razed their city for information on like one guy and tortured several key community members. Plus, the holonet exists. Outer Rim worlds have been stripped materially for less and bled dry even this early into things.

The great thing about andor is that the rebels are not all squeaky clean and the empire is not caricatured incompetent evil villains.

I guess it all comes down to perspective, and there's many parallels to this and real life scenarios

now that i think about it, it doesn't make sense how marva's speech would inspire a full blown rebellion. its not like ferrix was home to some prosperous nation or where great atrocities were committed by the empire where the people harbored a deep hatred for empire and were just waiting for a chance to unleash it. most of the people on ferrix were just common people and laborer's.

Realistically this speech almost turned me into a rebel...Almost. Long live the Empire!

The Empire made the hover trains run on time.

You also have to notice the difference between the army troopers and the Stormtroopers. The former are just peacekeeping forces, the regular arm of the military, the latter are indoctrinated zealots who answer to the Emperor, and the Emperor alone. The army troopers were trying to restrain the crowd and keep the peace, trying to keep the rioters down, but the Stormtroopers stood almost motionless at the back, almost as if they were daring the crowd to go nuts so they can have the excuse to shoot. Which they eventually received, once that one guy with the IED threw it at the Imperials and the officers gave the order to fire. If anything, the army troopers were acting as if they were trying to protect the crowd from the Stormtroopers, almost as if it were a good cop/bad cop scenario. The army troopers were the good cops, trying to get the people to calm down and go home. The Stormtroopers were the bad cops, just waiting for an excuse to use deadly force on unarmed civilians. The army troopers were like ''Dude, go home, you don't want to deal with the boys in white who are actually armed with guns.'' While the Stormtroopers were like ''Yeah, go ahead and riot, give us an excuse to blow your brains out.'' Stormtrooper units like the 501st Legion apparently enjoyed putting down insurrections. It kept the troops sharp and the Empire feared. They fed off that fear and enjoyed spreading it, just like Darth Jadus did, 3700 years before them. But the Army troopers did not enjoy having to deal with insurrections, they just wanted peace and order. But the continued rebellion and resistance against Imperial rule led to the former replacing the latter as the main fighting force of the Empire, thanks to the fact that the Rebels have a tendency to use civilian population rebellions against the Empire. It got up to the point where by the time of the OT, according to the Imperial Sourcebook, the Stormtroopers outnumbered the Army and Navy troopers combined. And of course, these men had no problems gunning down civilians.

I think everywhere deserved the empire. Keep up your great work!!!!

The Empire just wanted the trains to run on time, and was willing to punish anyone who slowed down the system.

i'm totally agree, long live the Empire!

I believe the Empire was justified in its approach. It ought to be noted that force of arms was not their first response, and that it was only once the crowd resorted to violence that a force of arms need be considered. The Empire was generous enough to allow such a large procession like this. Altogether the situation was destabilized by insurgent forces who seek to undermine the law and order which the Empire provided.

Since the Empire promoted human high culture for about 20 years, why were there so many humans compared to aliens who fought for the Rebellion, especially in the original trilogy, even before the destruction of Alderaan?

Luteun ( apologies spelling) i suspect was republic intelligence. Perhaps like captain teller in takin. ?

Everybody shamed that stormtrooper captain for covering the message and then punching the droid. But he was the only man who did his job. You see the droid broadcasts the Rebellion message, what should ya do? It's like Krennic Scarif scene "Are we blind? Deploy the garrison!".

Yeah a terrorist literally threw an IED into a non-lethal situation. Main criticism of the Empire on Ferrix though is their use of mental torture.

I think not wanting a large genocidal empire on your planet is a good enough reason to resist the empire

Marva wasn't wrong though..."There is a wound that won't heal at the center of the galaxy...." You can only push people around for so long. Ferrix tolerated the Corpos because, by and large, they left them alone. But the Empire was SO in their face...."the way they push through a crowd" as Luthen would say....It was only a matter of time before Ferrix was going to blow.

Rather than supporting the Empire, I'm more of questioning what made the rebels like the idea of a Republic so much, considering the Republic during and before the Clone Wars have proven to have been either too corrupt or too incompetent, and that's even before Palpatine manipulated everything and everyone. I still think the Empire is bad, but how do you justify taking down the Empire to restore the corrupt and incompetent Republic?

Long Live the Emperor!

A person had more securities, safeties and freedoms under the Empire. Like many terrorist cells once they defeated their enemy, they weren't able to cement a strong, prosperous, or safe ruling over their newfound state. The New Republic was rather incompetent and eventually couldn't avoid becoming what they once stood against. Also hey even tried to force a world to join them a time or 2.

long live the Empire

These were separatist holdouts from the previously ended Clone Wars.

It’s because andor is well written so the villains are capable of logical decisions and thought.

Ex sepratist world?... It showed clones doing a victory parade in a flash back/ non of the people were happy or proud seesm like an occupation?

I was disappointed that I could not watch this in 1080p, or 4k :( I feel like thats why you have 13 downvotes.

"I realize this is somewhat a controversial view". No, it isn't looking from the perspective of people who follow the law. It is justified. Long live the Empire!!

Empires represent order, yes, but they end up standing for oppression in the end. And when Maarva called for Ferrix to “fight the Empire”, she didn’t want peace on Imperial terms, she wanted Ferrix to be independent and peaceful on its own terms.

And im sorry but you sound like you voted for Trudeau

The Empire did nothing wrong in this scene. They acted within reason and held much restraint on themselves even when the riot got out of control.

Long live the empire!