"I'm minus 2 inches on block dude"

My brain surface area increased after I watched this video.

Tokido takes spacing to another level by measuring the distance between himself and the monitor.

Being plus is a state of mind.

Babe wake up, new Brian vid

You telling me that knowing that Gill's fHK at a very specific spot is plus for a few frames isn't going to help me win CPTs? Damn...

And this is why I subbed. You remind me of my Trig/Calc professors in college. Not just explaining, but breaking down complicated shit piece by piece. Also the Bubblaine music from Super Mario Odyssey was sublime.

As a Ryu main, I am acutely aware of spacing. Namely, that there always seems to be an enormous gulf of it between my opponent and any normals I can throw out on block. ;p

Remember when Tokido was using a measuring tape?

True for many fighting games. Moves that look very minus judging by the frame data can have such a huge pushback that you can't punish them anyway. Or only certain characters can punish it. You have to test it in training mode.

I thought I knew about frame data I thought I knew about spacing I didn't know shit I'm humbled Thank you Brian

The cakes have been layered

Loving the implementation of the info graphics dude!

Your videos changed how I look at fighting games a lot of times, amazing content

Glad i'm not the only one that remembers the old gem Diddy kong racing :)

Great Video, always articulate even on the technical aspects of the game Really great

Fantastic content Brian 👏

Going straight to my SFV Tech playlist. Thanks B

You earned a subscribe from this video. You're going to help a lot of folks move throw theory to practice.

Nicely done Brian. Love the vid. 🔥😉

Very resourceful video, thanks! I've recently noticed that this concept can be applied to defense too, not just offense. e.g. escaping -2 situations by pressing a slow normal that auto whiff punishes the opponent at the right range.

I love these videos man keep it up :)

Being Balrog one of my mains (the other one is Lucia), this is really helpful! I noticed these things during my matches but couldn't really pay much attention when fighting an other player. Thanks!

Fantastic video as always.

This was so helpful thank you!

This is by far the most informative video I have seen from you Brian, seeing as I have only been aware of you for a little while now. Great job contextualising it for simpletons like me lmao. I wish fighting games were a thing where I live, but the best you can do around here is curbstomp some undergrads at smash brothers. Wish my only option wasnt to be an online warrior

I love watching these videos on sfv. I'm new to fighting games, and there's so much technical stuff I hear about everyday and I love it. I'm literally only bronze in sfv, but I want to learn everything in order to get farther.

This was educational, great stuff 👍

As an og arcade player, I don't know the frame data on characters I've played for 20 years, but we as a community knows which buttons are strong based on a combination of how fast it comes out, how long it stays out, and the hit box/hurt box it has. We never discussed frame data, but we have a pretty good grasp of strengths of each buttons and specials.

Very insightful post

Nice video, in a different fighting game, I often use a move that is minus 1 on block but set it up such that I am far enough out that I can still beat them mashing because my character has a long reaching attack that is faster than most other attacks that would reach at that distance. Even in the mirror match, I can still walk back and whiff punish if they do the same attack at me. (Opponents don’t get this option because I only use this in the corner.)

This is a really good subject to talk about, i havent even thought about it

Thanks for the tips bro.

Very dope video learned alot

Great vid!

Honestly, this works in every fighting game with a push back mechanic. I could actually start using this mentality in a lot of things. This video taught me somthing so simple and obvious, but yet so brilliant. My eyes have been opened, I must tell the village.

I'm working on implementing this sort of thing right now and it feels like I'm gaining a super power. I'm winning exchanges I used to lose and it feels magical :D

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Thank you Professor

damn, hit me with the Diddy Kong Racing music in this informative video? The good shit.

Oh hey, thanks for bringing attention that context matters for frame data.

I can't remember if I watched this live or if this is an old video with a new title 🤔 always happy to see educational content though

Wish I had this when I was learning to play fighting games

Excellent video once again. Adding to the comment SEO. You're welcome!

"We'll meet at XYZ. Okay, but when?" "We'll meet at twelve. Okay, but where?"

So im getting into balrog and i want to know which v trigger i should use. I love the command grab with vt2 but also love the combos off of dash punch with vt1

Amazing video 🤠

I've lost focus for a second there, but Layer Cake pulled me right back in

Thank you Brainf-sensei-sama-kun

appreciate the diddy kong racing music

I love your videos because I main akuma... Really helps me learn what I can get my ass kicked by

Brian bringing the brain expanding juice to the people

This needs to be on /r/streetfighter. Would be great deal of help since we have many asking for explanations on frame data.

Can you analyze some Idom matches? His button selection often seems so amazing, and I think it would tie into this topic well.

All of your videos should get straight to the point like this one

Papa Brian out here tryna make us better every day.

Honestly, I think spacing and learning which moves I can reach and punish on block is my biggest problem. I guess I have to lean one character at a time, but that feels so daunting.

great vid, brian, peoepl always aforget about framedataXSpacing = real advantage

Layer Cake (persona 5 song) in the background :D

Back when I would play this game I figured this out, started purposefully whiff punishing for the first time and finally ranked up.

What's weird is that I figured the further away youd be, the more advantage youd have cuz you're causing their block stun to trigger later and make your move safer. I never thought that being closer would mean your follow hits sooner and thus youd be able to frame trap with a move that normally would trade. Mind blown

So after thorw just dash low kick?

Can anyone please explain the green/red/white bars at 4:26? Very much appreciate it. Great video!

My iq for sfv before watching Brian -100 My iq for sfv after watching Brian 1 It’s progress lol

If you don't get punished it's plus. The third part of the equation is definitely your opponent.

Nice music 😎👍

Butterfly kiss in the background doe

I think a lot of what say here highlights why knowing the frame data numbers is good but doesn’t tell the whole story. This is where forgetting the numbers for a moment and just trying to apply stuff teaches you what you can do with a character. Fast moves that show safe are great but if they’re stubby and you have to take risks getting in to use them are they actually better than a slightly slower move that advances you forward and knocks someone back enough when blocked to make their fastest counter out of range or a few frames slower to come out? Can you sweep after for a low mix up and knock down. On hit can you dash in fast enough to get off those faster combinations. I love testing this stuff out through in game application. And looking at the data to see what other routes might be there as well

Boy if only you knew how complicated this can get in Tekken (Variable frame data, hitbox sizes, crush properties, pushback, etc.)

Frame data ain't real, I dash up while minus on block.

Ho yeah boy

Luigi's mansion music though. Shout out to the editor again

Great video! But how do I find this out as a Silver rank? I play Ryu, I know forward hard punch is plus and that I'm close to my opponent if it hits. But how do I find out the best setups/combos afterwards? Should I press every possible button sequence to find out if anything combos or leads to an advantage? I tried, but I only found out 1 combo next to Ryus target combo. I know the information you gave in the video is of importance, but I've broken my brain trying to figure out how I can use this to improve my own gameplay in an actual match against higher ranked players. Thanks in advance for any answers or tips. Ps: my inputs aren't 100% solid, so please don't send me any crouching heavy punch, dp into super type combos. I need more advantage + damage that doesn't rely on full meter or corners to be effective. Kind regards, A Silver Ryu player that's genuinely trying to improve but doesn't know how.

Frame advantage? Brian videos give me game advantage 😏

I dont even play SF but this applies to all fighting games 2d and 3d (tekken player)

Got that persona music

Thats crazy cuz i always trade after the EX straight check. I always throught EX straight was 0 on block.

My day be so fine then boom frame data isn’t good anymore

Basicaly: punish to short ranged? Press advantage.

I wish older fighting games had good labbing tools in training mode

In a few years I'll have a master's degree on a game I've never played

Good one for Akuma: cr.hp +3 on block After HK Tatsu bnb. What does akuma get if cr.hp is blocked on back rise? Nothing. Cannot reach and other buttons dont reach either. Neutral resets. What does he get on Quick Rise? Hes too slow to dash up with cr.hp. Needs to go st.mk or cr.mp (5/6F) or walk cr.hp. Sure if they press a button they will get crushed by the cr.hp but this isnt a real meaty.

This concept is what makes Chun's advantage scary even tho a lot of her normals are minus you really can't check them and they'll just wash you with normals

In the Tekken community, when we talk about moves being "safe", this is what we're talking about. Some character have moves that are crazy negative on block, but because they push the opponent back to a distance where they can't REACH with a punish move, the move will still be considered safe. In recent years, there are no longer any true safe moves anymore, since there will always be some character in some situation that can punish them, but even so.

Let's gooooo

I appreciate that the newer generation has been so open to approaching fighting games from a technical and theoretical standpoint, it’s just interesting to me that you have to almost explain in reverse something that just seems like intuitive common sense. Nothing wrong if your the type of person that needs help conceptualizing things through data, but I honestly feel like you shouldn’t be worried about frame data until you’re an advanced player who labs out very specific punishes for specific match ups. Footsies and efficient use of your buttons should be more of an intuitive skill you gain through experience imo

My fighting game name is YiffOnBlock partially for this reason

This stuff caused so many double KOs ;_;

So enough push back beats frame data? Awesome.

Diddy kong racing 👍🏽

came for the topic stayed for Luigis Mansion

I'm about to be dropping the "I baited you on your perceived advantage" line all time lmao

space deez nutz

Real advantage is knowing that the -7 sweep is in range of light SPD.

idk if this is entirely relevant to this video. so in tekken 7 the universal fastest possible attack is your 10 frame jab that is +1 on block. jabs also usually move you forward a bit. the forward movement that comes on many moves with frame advantage really helps to lock people down. in sfv people get pushed away for blocking no matter what frame advantage and i just do not understand how to pressure people in this game. if people just block my frametraps i'll eventually be far enough away that i need to move forward to keep attacking, but if i walk closer they'll hit me and if i jump i'll get anti aired. i think this video alleviates some of my issue, but if i'm not a character with tons of forward movement like balrog what should i be doing to play better offense? i play chun, kolin, and cody. on chun i feel like i have this issue the least because her long range feels like it makes up for this problem. kolin is who i have this problem with most severely. and idk whats going on with cody but opening people up with his st.mk is just super easy. thinking about learning cammy because i feel like i could learn like 2 things and let my offense be carried.

This stuff causes a lot of double KOs ;_;

Go block G's standing heavy kick, then realize that -5 with that much pushback might as well be plus.

noice

YES!! this is EXACTLY why Sean from 3rd strike isn't as bad as people think

Hi Brian