A lot of people are bringing up the fact that Snape saw Lupin on the map as he entered the Whomping Willow, I put this in the script but thought it caused more confusion than anything so cut it out, but to explain: Lupin was the one who used the spell to make the map work, and Snape merely came across it (Snape obviously didn’t know the password) meaning that the map thought Lupin was using it, not Snape, meaning the Marauder’s were visible.

I can confirm that we never saw Peter Pettigrew on the map.

Can we take a moment to acknowledge that the Marauder's Map can see through Harry's invisibility cloak when even *Death himself* could not. Let me repeat that: Four teenagers were able to *outdo Death*. Just, damn.

Perhaps they just thought Ron was gay.

Professor Lupin had so much confidence in a map he created while he was in secondary school

Fred and George dont see : 1- voldemort on quirrel's head 2- ginny in a place that doesn't exist in hogwarts 3- barty crouch jr. as imposter moody

The real question is, how did fred and George know how to use the map

HOLD UP! if Ms.Norris was at Hogwarts during the Marauders Era, AND in the Golden Trio Era, then that is one OLD CAT!

My grand kids always yell "Mischief Managed" in place of "the end" when the complete reading a book - even if it is a Dr. Seuss book.

in book 6, HBP, while Harry was trying to locate Draco on the map, he couldn't make out who were & weren't in the Slytherin common room because it was too crowded & names overlayed on covered others. Given that, & given that almost always when ever Peter was with Ron, they were in an overcrowded class room, or in the overcrowded Gryffindor common room! So Fred & George, as well as harry, won't be able to notice Peter because all name-labels & dots on the map would overlay each other. & Even if they did notice Peter's name, how could they know who he is? They'd think he's just another student, & his name would be close to Ron's name on the map just as close Harry's name would be ..... Up to book 2, Peter never escaped from Ron, so they always were in a crowded room together. It's only in book 3 that Peter starts escaping from Ron, which is how Remus saw him.

Maybe the tower they sleep in is viewed from the top so there would be a lot of names on the same spot at night

Another theory is that Peter Pettigrew rarely step foot in the castle it was either carry in a pocket or in his cage therefore he would not be visible on the map

Your theory would also explain how no one was able to see Sirus Black on the map also.

It revealed itself to Gred and Forge because it sensed the mischief in them. Like how the Sword of Gryffindor senses loyalty.

Fred:Hermione...Ron's gay George:yeah he's gay Hermione:what do you mean George:he's sleeps with someone named Peter Pettigrew every night Fred:he's definitely gay

“You’re welcome JK Rowling!” - snarkiest Hufflepuff ever.

Okay hear me out: I think Mrs Norris is a maledictus. Just an unpleasant and intelligent cat? Yes, now she is. NOW she's a cat. I personally think she carried this rare blood curse and at some point in her life became a cat. Another little bit is that I think she was previously a caretaker at Hogwarts and that's the reason she's so willing to help and has so much sympathy for Filch. Just think about the similarities between her and Nagini! Oddly intelligent, seems to communicate with her master (parseltounge I know not my strongest piece of evidence), driven, obedient, continue as much as you like! It's also never explained when Filch got her! And when she's petrified it has the EXACT SAME EFFECT AND CURE AS IT DOES ON A HUMAN. I really want you to tell me if I'm right or wrong on this but either way I feel I made some good points. Love your channel!

I was sold the moment you said that the marauders chose not to have themselves seen by others, it makes so much sense! All your evidence after just confirmed it for me

I don’t get why they didn’t like make four maps one for each of them so they had to share one??

Or you have better things to do then to observe your brother sleeping while you use a magical map.

Maybe..... because Ron was holding him almost all the time Ron's name was covering Peters name...😂😂😂

Me watching this video: This is stupid I don’t understand Wait Oh OOOooOhhh OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH I NOW SEE THE LIGHT

The film is wrong ❤️ Book>Film

I love how they see Peter sleeping with Ron are just like “ah well, there was always gonna be one in the family”

I read somewhere that anyone who didn't know that a person was an animagus weren't able to see the names of those who are in their animagus form. Like Reeta Skeeter. Harry never saw Reeta on the map when she was wandering through Hogwarts as a beetle because he didn't know she was an animagus. I read that the Marauders purposely put some sort of enchantment on the map to not allow anyone who is in an animagus form be seen on the map if the person looking at the map doesn't know they are an animagus because should the map be confiscated (which it did) then the Marauders secret will still be safe and that secret would be their number one priority to protect. Does this make sense?

If Fred and George could see James Sirius Lupin and Peter on the map Book 1: “Wow look Lord Voldemort is living of Professor Qurrill’s head!” Book 2: “Our sister Ginny keeps going to a part of the castle that doesn’t exist.” Book 3: Wow are little brother has been sleeping with a man named Peter Pettigrew for three years! Hey George! Let’s make a paper airplane!!! Oh man it can’t fly Here Harry have this paper!

I love how dramatically he reads the book its amazing😂😂😂🤣

When people are like “they wouldn’t notice” may I remind you that if I had the maurauderers map half my time would be spent tracking my brother 😂

“Memed” I didn’t know “meme” could be past tense 😂

Those are oddly specific filters. "Okay James, everyone in the castle" "'Cept Us" "Yeah Except us unless it's us using the map" "Well that's going to complicate things a bit" "It's fine this is pretty simple stuff #humblebrag" "Alright, so no animals then" "Watch it" "Right right, okay so no animals except animagus" "Also it needs to see werewolves" "Alright Remus, what about the ghosts" "What?" "Does the charm affect ghosts?" "I don't think so" "Well we'll see how we go" "What about Filch's *the recently hired caretakers cat which if it is not an animagus would be effectively ancient by the events of my sons attendance of Hogwarts in the emergent fourth wall breaking future and that the cat only explicitly made mention in the 90's* Cat" "Yeah alright we'll be super specific about that cat that might not exist yet" much later "The map never lies*" "The map never lies* what?" "What?" "never lies* what" "Never lies unless it's not being read by a member of the marauders map and/also possibly if they are animals especially in the case of a temporally questionable cat" "Well then the map always bloody lies doesn't it"

My favorite theory comes from a fanfic call ‘smells like a rat’ where Fred and George convince themselves that peter is an invisible ghost that has gotten attached to Percy and Ron.

I always just assumed the individual people are tiny on the map so they were only looking to see if teachers were approaching, rather than squinting at other dorm rooms for no reason.

That makes sense to me. This is why people need to read the books. The movies screwed up a lot of things and completely left out the stuff about James and his friends being the mauraders. This bothered me on so many levels. And also Fred and George were clearly observant. They would have to be in order to sneak around the way they do. Great video!

At 2:43 you can see Newt Scamander if you look closely

This might also explain why Harry could see Peter in the movie. Maybe he's genetically close enough to James, aka the marauder Prongs, for the map to allow him to see the other marauders. There's also the end credits scene, where we can see Remus Lupin aka Moony on the map. Sure it may seem like it breaks the rule of marauders only being visible to other marauders on the map, but right when the credits open, we can hear Harry's voice stating the password phrase "I solemnly swear I am up to no good.", so we can assume we're looking at the map through Harry's eyes (like in the hallway with Pettigrew), who - if he's really so much like his father like everyone says - should have no problem using the map like Deer Ol' Dad.

What if Mrs Norris is a maledictus, like Nagini??? Idk, just a thought. 🤔

Roasted Sophie and referenced iDubbz at the end of a great video. Sweet video to say the least

I think when the Muraurders made the map they didnt want anyone but themselves knowing where they are. I mean if I made a magic map I wouldn't want anyone to see where im going. Idk thats my little theory.

Dont wanna do this, but i have to. Snape sees lupin on the map.. And follows him. So they can be seen on the map.

2:42 it says Newt Scamanda on the map!

That is amazing! You're my favorite KZfaqr! Thanks for uploading.

Seamus I literally thought the same thing before you said what if the marauders made the map so that they couldn't be found by anyone but themselves

I have got a weird theory. Peter pettigrew saw Fred and George with the map and took his original human form and revealed how to use the map in return he asked them to not say he was the rat. 😂 He could have also changed into human form out of view and told the twins anonymously how the map worked and say there is glitch that Ron's rat is called Peter pettigrew. 🤣🤣🤣😂

new theory: jk rowling isn't a human, she's a hyper intellignt hyper alien. evidence: she made the best selling book.

The reason Harry can see the Marauders and no one else can is because Harry is a blood relative to one of the makers of the Marauder's Map I love your theory it is awesome

I think that for the movies, only people who are the maurauders or are their ancestors/descendants can see the maurauders

just wanted to say that this video makes me incredibly happy. i have no "serious" harry potter fan friends and the way you speak so passionately about theories and characters and everything just reblooms the love for this series i once thought lost again and again.

I thought the movies actually filled this one in quite nicely. The books describe the map with single dots labelled with a person's name. The movies clearly show footprints and imply that people show up on the map when they're in motion. (Seamus's book quote specifically stating that Dumbledore was pacing in his office also seems to support this.) Teachers usually show up moving towards Harry at night, Barry Crouch Jr showed up very shortly after appearing on the map (in Moody's guise). If there's an instance of anyone showing up on the map while standing completely still, please let me know. Since Ron was carrying Scabbers or Scabbers was sleeping during the times Fred and George "should have seen him" or "it would have looked suspicious", Peter never showed up. He only appeared on the map after he had escaped and was moving around the castle of his own volition.

Yay! Finally a theory thats not common knowledge.

now we're getting to the real questions

I've always thought that Peter magically fooled the Map, and he had to do it quite regularly. So, when he left, the magic started to fade and harry started seeing him.

I really like this theory as I have been trying to find a solution myself and this is PERFECT. Also love your channel.

Does hermione ever find her parents and get them to remember her?

I think Fred and George never saw Peter Pettigrew on the map because they thought he was another kid in his year. Also, who just stalks their younger brother on a map? They were too busy with mischief to pay attention to their brother. Also, Harry probably never saw it because he never payed attention to his own dorm, why would he? He was too busy sneaking to Hogsmead, stalking Draco when he goes to the Room of Requirement, etc. My theory.

It's a good theory. Personally, I just think that George and Fred were too focused on pranking teachers and probably didn't bother to keep tabs on their brother, or since they were so willing to give the map to Harry, perhaps they didn't use it enough to spot Peter and Harry never noticed it because he was too indulged in his own purposes for the map. Just a personal opinion though, it's always interesting to hear other theories on these unanswered mysteries.

just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it

Seamus: do you hear that? Me: my ears ringing from your yelling, yeah I hear it

I'm not early, I'm on time.

The MM is my favorite artifact in HP. A sentient map predisposed to finding the biggest trolls in the school and giving them all of the tools they need to never ever get caught ensuring a legacy of IRL trolling and vandalism for at least 3 generations.

Maybe Mrs. Norris is a maledictus and used to be in love with Filch/was related to Filch

Oooo I like this, great thinking 👌🏻🔥 better than mine but I’m fine with that 😂 good job .... Siriusly 😏 But remember I haven’t been corrected yet because yours is still a theory technically 😉 yours is better and I would prefer for yours to be true over mine 🤗 Even though mine was simply explaining why Fred and George didn’t notice , not harry 😉

I am so ready for the collab!!

I genuinely admire the effort Yourve gone to solve this and your theory makes.sense. love it

That’s always the theory I have thought of. Great video!

Awaitaminute: You're suggesting Norris was already around when the Marauders were at school? Sheesh that's an old cat.

Counter theory, Harry, Ron, Fred and George knew scabbers as scabbers so he showed up as scabbers on the map. However Lupin knew him as Peter pettigrew so that's the name lupin saw.:.

Woah. Makes so much sense. Awesome stuff, thanks for making this video.

I mean anyone who has siblings knows that you would, in 5 years time, check up on them while they were sleeping on the map to see if they were really in bed or not occasionally. Especially if you could just see it without having to get up. And FRED and GEORGE of all people would never ignore the fact that some random ass man was clearly sharing a bed with Percy OR Ron 😂

"Did it feel good though." I love that video

Brilliant theory! There's only one thing that's not clear to me... The caretaker was a different one at the time because Molly (The Weasleys mother) says in the fourth book that they had a different caretaker at the time, which means that Mrs Norris couldn't be there (that is assuming that Molly, Arthur and the Marauders are around the same age. Snape is around 30 something and Molly and Arthur, since they had so many kids they must have had Bill at an early age, around 20 something, which means when they had their last child they must be around 30 something)

Or maybe NO ONE KNEW PETTER WAS A RAT SO IT JUST WENT WITH THE RATS NAME!! That makes sense because no one knew Petter was the rat and the rat had been named. If someone knew the rat was human it would show his human name.

Also did anyone notice Newt Scamander’s name on the map when the twins first gave it to Harry. He’s there

Mrs Norris could be a blood curse like the girl in the crimes of Grindewald (Fantastic beasts 2)

I think they didn’t see Peter because you can only see someone as they are walking!!!!!… Scabbers was in Ron/Percy’s pocket or his cage 99% of the time, Harry (who only in the movie!) saw him because he escaped Ron and ran around the grounds for months- plus the fact that that other 1% of the time Scabbers may have been let loose, the twins probably wouldn’t have been focusing on the people in the castle only focusing on if Snape, Filch or Mrs Norris was near Gryffindor tower or any secret passages

Omg and that’s why no one ever saw Sirius on the map except for Lupin. I always wondered why Harry didn’t immediately see him on the map and tell Dumbledore.

LOVE this video!

Oh that's a very good theory. Very well done

Maybe Mrs. Norris is visible because Peter’s animagus was a rat and cat’s chase rats and eat them so maybe it was so Peter did not get eaten by Mrs. Norris when he was an animagus.

This makes a lot of sense, thanks for this!

So true as many times as I've watched Harry Potter I never thought about it good catch and I agree with you thanks for the video

I always just thought, why would Fred and George be looking for their brother on the map? Surely they had better things to do than be keeping tabs on Ron or Percy. And we also don't know how often Percy had Scabbers with him. He could have just kept him in the dormitories at all times, so even if Fred and George were trying to find Percy to make sure he wasn't around to witness one of their schemes he might not have had Scabbers with him and therefore there was nothing to see. And as for Harry, same thing. He and Ron were almost always together, so it's not strange to me that he never saw Pettigrew's name. Why would he need to look on the map for someone who was almost always right next to him.

This is the BEST theory!!!it explains everythin!!

This makes so much sense!!! Thank you!!!

Watching two years later, and I just gotta say... glad you changed your hair lol

I'd argue that the map might see the children of the marauders count

Hi Seamus, I love your videos and I'm glad I found you from watching TheBakeey. I am also glad I found your channel because I found the Super Carlin Brothers from your channel as well. I love all of your theories, especially your Harry Potter theories. Luv from the U.S

Snape sees Lupin on the map when it was left open on his desk at the end of PoA, which is how he followed him to the shrieking shack.

I think it is a combination of two things. 1. Sirius, James, Remus and Peter would not show on the map with their real names, but as Moony, Padfoot, Wormtail and Prongs. 2. If you sneak around at night the twins have way better things to do than to check on their brothers' sleeping habits.

I personally believe that only the marauder or relitives of them could see them or if a marauder opened the map

THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN TRYING 2 CONVINCE PEOPLE THIS BUT THEY DON'T LISTEN 2 ME!!!!!!!!! In the books it literally explains that Fred and George didn't see Peter on the map. IF ONLY PEOPLE READ THE BOOKS.

omg this makes so much sense! you are a genius

This was the first video by you that I ever watched. Now, I have seen every one of them (over the course of two years, btw)

I may have a plausible theory to answer you dilemma: 1) Fred and George pilfered the map, but took some time to figure out how to read it; 2) Percy had no clue that Scabbers was not a real rat, but an unregistered animagus named Peter Pettigrew; 3) Fred & George were not specifically looking for Pettigrew so they never payed any attention to the name being on the map; 4) Fred and George nor Percy never learned the read name of the Marauders or the back story about them; and finally.... 5) Harry only recognized Pettigrew's name after evesdropping on Fudge's meeting with McGonagoll and Rosemerta about Sirius killing Pettigrew.

I really like this theory and I think it makes a lot of sense. There is only one thing that bothers me, maybe someone can help me out. It doesn't really matter much and wouldn't disprove anything, but say the marauders did include mrs. norris in the map, shouldn't she be at least 20 years old, maybe even older? It's possible but really unusual for a normal house cat.

I love your energy 💖

This is the first of your videos that I’m watching that you’re not criticizing something

I don t think mrs Norris was alive when tha marauders attended hogwarts because an average cat only lives about 15 years

I don't mean to be a downer and rain on your parade, but, as a bit of a 'plot hole' in your theory that only Marauders can see Marauders, Snape was able to see Lupin on the map right as Lupin went down the hole in the Womping Willow (technically, it was down the passageway, but whatever). Snape says that he saw Lupin as he was going off the edge of the map, and that's the reason why Snape shows up in the Shrieking Shack. Of course, I could be wrong and I could in the end just be remembering the wrong words, but I recently finished the book, so I think that I was correct.

True. People think the map was designed automatically to show everyone, but they tracked everyone and why would they track themselves. They never placed their whereabouts on the map, or if they did, only they could see it. That is the smart thing to do. I like this theory

This video came up on my suggestions and being the Harry Potter fan that I am, I clicked on it. You just earned yourself another sub. I honestly think more people should subscribe👌 great video🌸