GER haters were eatin good for a while, but any content from you is hype worthy

wdym he can't use it without a horse or setup. He did in the last chapter of part 7?

Hey jobber, if you actually had to assume tusk's speed feats, how would you rank him over some other stands?

​@@zaneplayztmcsgo2252tbh honest the inf rotation is sometimes inconsistent. Like one time it can phase through objects and not affect them but another time it does. Now you could say that johnny can control who or what the infinite rotation affects, but when johnny gets touched by diego's spinning leg, he just lets the infinite rotation affect him. Also one time the IR has to only touch you to completely affect you but another time. It comes in this weird bubble gum-looking blob that has to run up your entire body before you can be fully effected.

​@@zaneplayztmcsgo2252I think Araki just changed his mind about johnny only being able to use act 4 with the horse, because the were multiple time where johnny could used act 4 to punch something but just didn't.

Which is why this video is stupid.

i had a fucking stroke trying to read this

@@aarcadeee same tbh

@@aarcadeee Basically he's saying ACT 4 has the definitive advantage of not being a one time power up - that being, Johnny gets Act 4 and uses it for the rest of SBR against another extremely powerful stand (The World) so that its easier to see just how powerful its ability is. We see it used against Valentine, Johnny himself, and Alt. Diego (plus depending on the Theory, Wonder of U eventually) Meanwhile GER is used just once against King Crimson and thats it for the rest of the series Honestly it feels like Araki learned from his mistake with not further delving into the depth of GER's power and the arguments it created when making Tusk ACT 4

@@starsilverinfinity thanks for the explanation, helped alot

You are correct, please look at my pinned comment where I address that

@@JobberGodot oh sorry lol, I don’t usually read comments from the creator unless they tell you to in the video, mb 😅

Nah it’s all good fam 😅

I think claiming araki know multiverse > universe is a pretty fair assumption

Ger isn’t situation specific if you do anything ger can chose wether or not that action happens or not

@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory i think the reason he says its so situation spesific for atleast some part is the fact that the requiem arrow made the requiem be exactly what giorno needed at that specific time

Thanks for the heads up, I always read comments before watching videos, and that is the dumbest thing I heard today.

Well, time is literally DEFINED as the flow of causality, as the continuous movement from cause to effect. So anything that, say, reverses causality is essentially going back in time.

​@@moroccannerd35 with shows like JoJo, causality is usually defined as a transcendental thing which acts above space, time, and most other dimensions. For example, Stand Users naturally being attracted to eachother started out as a mere convenience for Part 3 to get the ball rolling faster and explain away unlikely interactions. But as Araki developed the idea (especially in Part 8), weaving in this natural pull as some sort of law of reality which acts on a higher level than most other laws is pretty cool. In a 10-D system, it would pretty much be the upper 3 (4) being Informational, while the bottom 3 are spacial and next 3 are temporal.

In ger's case it is just manipulating time for diavolo every time he dies

​@@moroccannerd35Time shouldn't rewind when erased since it doesn't exist. You know what I'm saying, a simple time rewind ability would have been useless against Diavolo.

@theshatteredghosttuber The universe that Pucci created and the universe with steel ball run and jojolion aren't the same.

@@rayankhan4327 Probably meant like if araki was ever going to reuse the main universe or not.

Jodio new Giorno?

wtf? RTZ is at the very least infinite regeneration. decent my ass. and if u take statements at face value then its fate reversal which would be more than enough to stop a soul hit by tusk act 4 from getting deleted

you'll never come to that conclusion

Where do you get the idea of GER would let anyone hit it? We only see it in one fight and and diavolo couldnt touch Gio or GER

@demekagamine8197 Go watch my GER video like I said in this video regarding those specific questions like that please, as I will not repeatedly answer the same questions in the comments section

@@demekagaminee just said ta4 transcends Revert to zero so ger is gonna stand there, activate then realize it’s not working then die. Probably

facts. if ta4 tries to punch and ger just blocks, johnny and tusk already won

​@@Zany-no it would not

You honestly think that would happen bro?

@@Pao-kr7eg I get that but why in the world would GER let that happen it’s impossible brethren

@idc9ine I'm simply following the logic of the video. I don't know who would actually win, as it depends highly on whether they'd actually fight and even if they do GER is only seen once, and thus we don't have enough information as to how it's ability would interact with another stand.

@@skeepodoop5197 tbh it will be a stalemate

Ger wont let that hit lol

I recommend you reread Johnny TA4 vs Diego TW as Diego literally stated that TA4 can move in Timestop due to it’s transcendence/crossing over of dimensions because of the stands gravity, and when TA4 is shot a second time, it’s completely mobile in Timestop, with full immunity and awareness, enough so that it goes to attack Diego in Timestop, only for it to kill innocent people Diego used as a meat shield to protect himself from TA4 in Timestop

@@JobberGodot I'm sorry, but I just did reread that section of the manga... and that is not what happens. To begin with, Diego saying that TA4 can move in timestop due to gravity is no different from Jotaro saying that Pucci "dodged during my time stop." Did Pucci ACTUALLY dodge during the time stop? No, but he had awareness during so that he could avoid the harpoon AFTERWARDS since the harpoon only actually resumes movement after time stop ends. Secondly, time stop is not used before Diego has the meatshield. Time isn't stopped at that point. Diego even says he has no idea when to stop time because he doesn't know where Johnny is underground. He uses it once the female fans have already gotten on the horse, and he uses it then specifically because it stops TUSK from repositioning it's fist or punching through them and reaching him. Meaning it's movement, is indeed stopped. Johnny even shoots at Diego later with the infinite spin after this point for the final time, and time stop completely stops the bullet and dodges it. Then, the bullet loops back around AFTER time stop and hits Diego, where he doesn't stop time.

Both Pucci’s and TA4’s use of Gravity while similar are vastly different in scope/power. Pucci is shown that he can only be aware during Timestop, while TA4 is not only aware but physically twitched it’s finger, as well as the infinite rotation still being static/active during Timestop which is why Diego didn’t touch the stand during Timestop in the first place cause after that he admits that he would’ve lost then and there if he decided to touch TA4 in Timestop, especially due to him saying the stand and infinite rotation crosses over into stopped time. Your second point, which I’ll assume you’re trying to be genuine maybe, must lead me to believe that you might be color blind, because when Johnny shoots TA4 a second time, the color of the panels change to the color of stopped time, and it once again shows TA4 unaffected and still having its color while heading towards and attacking Diego on his horse, Diego visibly stops time twice in the scenario of TA4 being fired a second time. Also you’re final point doesn’t help you at all because when the TA4 bullet is fired the final time, it still moves and progresses during Timestop

​@@JobberGodot I'll concede, would have been a lovely debate without the ad hominem.

@@JobberGodotbtw do you think Made in Heaven (if pucci was aware of it) would be able to completely ignore stopped time seeing as how Tusk Act 4 and C moon both have shown to be able to resist gravity on top of Jotaro’s statement that if Pucci were to be conscious of this they’d be fucked?

What? Wouldn’t GER just stop Johnny from ever shooting? 💀

What even funnier to me is how TA4 is litteraly a counter to Gojo from JJK

Sure, also glad you like the video and channel!

Cope 😈

@@JobberGodot ah well i was expecting an actual argument but ok

@JobberGodot they're right and here's more reasons ur wrong- for bruno hitting the pillar, you're just assuming that bruno is "able to hit the stone pillar" when this is not stated anywhere. diavolo specifically says multiple times that in his ability he can witness the movements people were fated to make. so, it makes sense that regardless of if bruno can feel the stone pillar and actually hit it, the movement will be the same since it was fated to occur. it doesn't matter if there was nothing there for him to hit, he was going to act that way regardless. on the blood - the blood does not make any impact and is just the result of diavolo changing his blood's position since he has control over where his body is during time skip. like datboy038 said, there's no predictive path shown for the blood and the characters dont react to it which suggests they are not interacting with it until the ability ends. - diavolo "becoming intangible" during time skip is a consequence of his ability, and not the ability itself! the stand being described as having "absolute avoidance ability" doesn't mean the same thing as "its ability is absolute avoidance".from a narrative standpoint this also makes sense, as diavolo talks endlessly about filling the pitfall in front of him and such. his motivation is to escape the bad outcomes in his future by skipping over the very time in which those pitfalls could occur, thus erasing the possibility of his downfall. this also explains how king crimson has what would be 2 abilities under your interpretation, as damage avoidance and erasing perception are two completely different concepts that are not directly related, BUT can be indirectly achieved together through skipping time, which would have the simple and broad consequences of making diavolo invincible and making people unable to perceive or remember those events. - on "time isnt a spatial dimension" - no impact, ur applying real life concepts of time (which we dont even know are correct) to a series in which users go back in time, stop time, and accelerate time. if diavolo's ability erases time, it just does. it's fiction. also in universe this doesn't even make sense since time is clearly shown to be preordained, as we see in epitaph's ability, so time is given some kind of dimension by fate. also under your interpretation, why are stand users only able to erase or affect things that have spatial dimensions? there's simply no suggestion this is true, as stands are shown to affect all kinds of supernatural and non spatial concepts. on "nothing would move because no time is progressing"- again trying to apply like "common sense" to fiction. obviously that would defeat the purpose of the entire ability, you just have to accept that diavolo's ability allows him to perceive the fated actions that *would* occur during that time. and then he erases it. diavolo having "12 seconds" is the same way dio has "5 seconds". like dio says it doesn't make much sense to think of it in terms of time since time is stopped (or being erased), that's just how the stand user experiences the ability until their stamina runs out. and yes characters would have inaccessible speed, everything does as a result of his ability since they are moved by fate in a time period that did not exist. your misunderstanding comes from the fact that those characters dont have that speed, it's just fate that moves everything along at that speed. that's literally just what his ability is described and shown to be. you just say that that's "definitely not true" which is not an argument lol

Believe me, you’ll get the response soon in the form of a comments edition video lol

*he’s right, not they’re. It’s just us three rn lol. Anyways not gonna read all that now, will save it for a comments edition video 🥱

when in the actual flying fuck did GER have limited causality manipulation? and RTZ doesent just stop stuff, it reverts it back to when the action was thought of.

⁠@@gamingnamehere1560that’s the causality part. Causality is cause and effect and GER reverts cause in order to remove effect.

Like, you do not get it, imagine johnny does hit giorno, it will literally undo itself, johnny will go back to the start of his attack while giorno approaches to totally beat him up

​@@Ayaden_Stan Return To Zero refers to the attacker's will. Why didn't Giorno revert the will of Pucci's Time Acceleration during Part 6? The whole planet was speeding through night and day in the span of seconds and he just... watched and let everything around him crumble to dust and blow away? RTZ is not reality manipulation. It is specifically manipulating an ATTACKER'S WILL, which naturally follows will revert that attack as well. Hence why he cannot stop Pucci's Time Acceleration since it is not an attack on Giorno's life. If Giorno fought an enemy, who for example, DIDN'T have a will, what would happen then? That'd be interesting. But better yet here, Johnny's will WOULD be reset and it'd be like he never fired Tusk's shot... except TA4's attack transcends DIMENSIONS. Not, space, nor time; literal planes of existence. It'd appear to Giorno; Johnny having his attack reverted only for the bullet to continue travelling towards Giorno, not stopping for Time Stop, Time Manipulation, Time Rewind, Causality Manipulation, Causality Rewind. Unless you had literal Reality Manipulation, you cannot stop TA4.

@@zzthedon4kI actually have the answer to that, in Part 5 its shown Giorno’s stand most likely returned to normal because the arrow fell out. But he kept the requiem arrow so he can revert to GER anytime he wants.

k and Araki said Star Platinum is the most powerful stand after during and after GER’s existence, I highly recommend you watch my GER video, as I go pretty in depth on this

@@JobberGodot Ill be sure to do so

@@JobberGodot Go Beyond vs ACT 4?

​@@starsilverinfinitygo beyond negs bruh, gravity and spin operate on logic, josuk8 😊doesn't care about that

​@@withadreamofyou Just the bubbles negate stand abilities, not Josuke himself. He's not invincible, it was still uncontrollable and partially manipulated by Wonder of U at one point

“Star Platinum can stop time for only a few seconds. The strongest stand ability ever” - stated after part 5

@@coostard5971jus because it’s said it’s the strongest stand ever means nothing

@@4ourgot so anything said about GER is also irrelevant?

@@coostard5971 ?

GER stated that what Diavolo was seeing was indeed the truth of what was going to happen, but Diavolo would never get to reach that truth due to RTZ. RTZ by nature isn’t passive/automatic. Revert to zero or return to zero semantics do not matter to the conversation, same things. And the rest you talk about imo is headcanon respectfully

@@JobberGodot not really head canon. his ability literally says the power to reset any value to Zero. which was shown to include. will power, events, and death. so by all means his ability should be able to do all the other stuffI mentioned or else it wouldn't work. you didn't mention how Giorno's live creation would play into the fight so my point still stands, that if tusk hits any lifeform that GER makes the infinite rotation will be returned to it. Also The reset to zero loop literally started and ended i the moment where diavolo was about to begin using King Crimson's time erase. and not during his punch. so by definition the ability triggered the moment diavolo intended to begin his attack. Also saying GEr just stands there and doesn't do the first move is wrong because Ger literally does the first move which would have killed Diavolo had he not predicted it. he shoot a Ranged laser beam by flicking a pebble so strong it Knocked Down a building and turned the rubble into Very venomous scorpions. so fast King Crimson who sees the future wasn't able to fully react. how is Tusk supposed to defend against that if the speed difference and Power is so great? the way you describe how RTZ beats time erase makes it look like you are following Dragon ball logic that simply having more power makes you inmune to other abilities. when that's not the case. "No matter the ability, it will never get past me, those who seek to harm me will never reach the truth that that's going to happen" seems like a pretty blatant explanation that regardles off speed or ability you posses. it won't even trigger i the first place therfore rendering it useless. also the Idea that infinite spin could be used willy nilly without trying is wrong. to achieve infinite rotation requires a lot of skill and the perfect technique which requires time to set up and pull of. it isn't something that is active 100% of yhe time that insta kills whover touches him. Spin itself has it's own requirements to function, such as to visualize the golden ratio in living/natural things. looking at Giorno's mechanical stand floating in the air with his fully clothes selve isn't going to be helpful. I'm not saying your results are completely wrong on who wins but I'm saying you failed to consider many more factors that would come into this fight despite claiming to make them in character.

​@@JobberGodotWhat's headcanon is ezpecting Johnny to start of using lesson 5 which he didn't do until he realized that nothing else worked on valentine, but he wouldn't have the luxury here due to GER just shooting a laser through his head and one shotting him before he reacts. 😊

@@JobberGodotnot a head canon it’s literally the truth you down played the hell out of GER in this video and this guy you responded to really broke it down so GER wins this fight

ik iam more late than your dad coming home but i just need to answer it. yes it would revert johnny will but tusk act 4 is able to think and do actions by himself. shown in part where he fought diego johnny wasnt able to move but tusk was able to move. so johnny's will will be reverted but not tusk's will he is multiversal>universal ger

Its jojos any stand can beat any stand. Look at the newest jojoland chapter not trying to spoil. But in general jotaro getting heavily injured by a rat whether you say it was because he wanted to teach josuke he did almost die. Diego had perfect prep time and knowledge of his weakness. But thats what makes jojos great and its power scaling great it’s flexibility that anyone even with the weaker stand in the right scenario can take out a stronger stand.

@@thefearturkey6944 you can't use that damn jotaro rat example, jotaro let himself get hit. Any time he wanted Jotaro could have stopped time and speedblitzed those rats.

@@juub5171The fact is, he was still put in a situation where RATT *could* have kill him.

The fact diego heated him BC he knew everything about tusk and valentine told him but if he never knew he would be clapped plus johnny never fighter ts stand so we can't say diego is stronger

Jotaro kujoh is terrifying yes Local priest: haha speed go brrrd

Tusk Act 4 could only move for a small amount time

@@SubmissiveMemerality yea, but still, being able to move through time stop without having time stop is like, absoloutly wild

​@@SubmissiveMemerality You can easily argue that Tusk has a similar reactive adaptation like star platinum, but instead of trying to use time stop, in a sense he's attempting to maybe outspeed time stop. He had a similar problem with D4C, he almost failed but he had the time to get through, given enough times he could do it

@@SubmissiveMemerality being able to move even an inch in stopped time technically gives you immeasurable speed as you're moving in 0 seconds of elapsed time.

But also explained mathematically zero is literally nothing an infinite concept with no point of start or end so I think it would have no effect in general until overpowering strength feats take into account

GER doesn't necessarily universal. Literally everywhere in wiki facts saying GER is atleast multiversal that this guy alone. An ultimate GER hater

Blud did NOT listen to me at 3:30 💀, yo, go watch my GER video, after that check out the videos description, and look at my pinned comment

@@JobberGodot fair enough mans. Though i do remember watching that GER vid right after it came out, but I'm gonna give it another go. I really wanna keep this dialogue going though as i remember having something to add to the GER vid but had to go to sleep for work. Its a long vid and tbh I'm a slow ass typer so might take a minute to reply again lmao. Btw dont think im a hater, actually really like your vids

Infinity * 0 still =‘s 0. Anything times 0 regardless of size will always = 0. Tusk act 4 gets nullified by RTZ easily regardless of infinite spin. But after that, for giorno needs to kill Johnny for a death loop to begin (Johnny dies, rtz reverts his death to 0, erasing the effect but keeping the cause; death happened but didn’t die- type shit) Also the key difference between Johnny and Giorno’s abilities is that Giorno’s ability is passive and Johnny’s is active. Johnny has to shoot that first nail and start infinite spin while GER’s ability activates automatically (/passively) regardless of speed. So it activates when someone attempts to attack Giorno. Plain and simple. Tusk act 4 attacks (active) , giorno RTZ’s (passive) both the infinite spin and Johnny shooting the nail. Now where it gets tricky is giorno attacking johnny, which I don’t know whether the effects of giorno touching Johnny’s TA4 would be RTZ’ed. Giorno can’t be beat by Johnny, but it’s still up for debate whether Johnny can be beat by giorno. Who knows. It’s just one big circle-jerk debate in the internet😅

If return to Zero was passive it would continually revert everything around it to zero endlessly it needs to be an active ability to make sense

@@JustGoldy77 no? Anything that attempts to harm giorno = return to zero? Just because it’s passive doesn’t mean it’s hyper sensitive to everything around it.

Based.

prob no to both questions

"And when you said buccirati hit a stone pillar, it was the fate this action had to happen anyways because you can't change fate" King Crimsons ability is to alter fate, Buccerati was going to hit him and he altered fate making Buccerati hit the pillar instead

well one question though if king crimson actually erase time then why does rtz(causlaity manip) works isnt causality manipulation bound by time? i searched in google that causality(cause and effect) requires time so no time=no causality making causality manipulation innefective

@@Hazel564 Fate.

Tusk Act 4 gets decimated no question Edit: in ta4 vs mih i mean

Made in Heaven would speed blitz Johnny and wouldn’t let him even first the infinite rotation.

​@@TheVeganStudent_True. Tusk is more powerful, but that doesn't mean much with such a huge speed difference

Rewatch/Reread GER vs Diavolo again, GER & Giorno literally float for about 45 seconds before actually doing something lol, and just in case you haven’t, I highly recommend you watch GER video to see more of where that argument is coming from

@@JobberGodot I literally just told you what happened in that scene in both canons. Why are you telling me to reread/rewatch it? You're misconstruing what was happening narratively to make an argument for Giorno and GER having the IQ of a rock just so Tusk ACT 4 can get an easy win. Giorno in this scene is hovering above Diavolo, looking down on him while talking with the utmost confidence in his ability to defeat the Boss of Passione. Diavolo had asserted himself as the king above kings up till that point in time. Giorno is going out of his way to break him down via actions and words because he's fully aware that there is nothing Diavolo can do to prevent what's about to happen (even though he doesn't know what his stand is capable of). He's not standing there catatonically like a lobotomized chimpanzee. And again GER acted first during that entire interaction in both the manga and anime. That's irrefutable and suggesting otherwise is blatantly choosing to omit those parts to make your argument.

And I told you what ACTUALLY happened since you’re experiencing phychosis, Giorno/GER literally float doing NOTHING for 4 and a half pages/45 seconds in the anime, that’s exactly what happened. And after GER attacks, the attack is non fatal, didn’t obliterate Diavolo, then Giorno and GER walk towards Diavolo and LET Diavolo do whatever he wants except kill Giorno/GER. So yes, by your standards, GER/Giorno do have the IQ of a rock consistently in character from what’s visually presented against an opponent they want to kill or win against. Also please watch my GER video before replying to me if you haven’t to keep this conversation more progressive

​@@JobberGodotDid you really just argue that a scene intentionally contrived to build hype for GER is proof that Giorno is stupid? Rip 🤡

@@JobberGodot If that's the argument your going to make, I don't want to watch the video. It's no doubt just as intentionally obtuse.

Nuh uh still ger loses to tusk ger was plot thing it was to only defeat kc and thats why it didnt have an appearance in mih fight later so what ever u say is irrelevant he literally covered every points u mention by him diavolo just skips over to the result and actions don't happen and ger just reverts the results so tusk will bypasses ger as spin golden ratio is a counter to most of the ability

@@Jsjsjxjxjxnxnsskkznxnx he will just reset the horse moving so that johnny doesn't get the infinite spin and one shots him with a laser, your OPINION is irrelevant you ignorant child.

Ignorant Child is crazy

Finally someone with common sense

Gg u win

His fists in rage that he can’t RTZ and beat Tusk Act 4

Yea I agree cuz GER is a passive ability, activates instantly when harm is trying to be done to Giorno

Jobbers isn't arguing in good faith, of course Araki's words debunk the video.

@@creeeamy7133so who wins? Ger or tusk4

Crazy bro thinks he knows better than the author himself 😭

@@Ardenict 🤝🤣

I have just released a video on KC if you’re interested in watching it, I go in more detail in it than here

Bro did not read the part

This dude definitely didn't read part 7

And we still haven't seen ta4 full power tho

Maybe

Check out my GER video, as well as my How Strong Is Jotaro Kujo video, it’s all there

@@JobberGodot btw wasn't za warudo able to stop infinite rotation in time stop or did he just not use it when firing?

No, TW was not able to stop the infinite rotation, it got worse for TW the more the stand stopped time with TA4 out

@@JobberGodot oh so your basically saying tusk act 4 would use infinite rotation and run up to ger, overpower rtz and hit ger killing them. Fair enough lmao

I’ll do that soon

Tooru realising he doesn't need to go on a wild goose chase for a stupidly shaped mystical alien vaccine to obtain the mind blowing power that is free will

yeah. the definition of infinite is it keeps going, so even if you return it to zero it will just start again

​@@ashergad9278no, rtz can revert fate, even infinite spin wont kill him

@@bigmaxmer1556 I don’t think that applies to an ability that can traverse dimensions.

@@ashergad9278 he talked dogshit, ger is multiversal, or didnt u see the infinite deaths of diavolo

@@bigmaxmer1556 I know but so is act 4, or did you not see infinite spin affecting valentine across different dimensions, effectively going beyond time and space

The whole “Being above existing stands” and people no limit fallacying it

@@JobberGodot So it's not a valid scale then?

⁠@@riatrapgaming6415yes, it is not a valid scale

GER: tries to use its ability Tusk: Infinite spin go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I do believe that GER could also work on the soul and therefore the stand itself and SCR was able to do the same simply cuz Requiem. And unless tusk act 4 is genuinely uncontrollable by Johnny I do feel it can be taken away and therefore have no effect. But hey fun ideas wooo

I highly recommend you go watch my GER video to have a full understanding of me & my arguments, as that video will answer many of your possible questions. Also GER Hax wise would be unable to do anything to TA4 as GER’s Hax potency is to weak to even affect something like TA4

@@JobberGodot reluctantly I shall... I shall reply soon if I happen to disagree with anything or not understand something. thx jobber for the reply

@@JobberGodot one thing I have regarding this video is the statements for the requiem arrow itself. With polnareff (I'm pretty sure) saying that if you control the arrow you control the world? With polnareff also knowing about many other stands such as star platinum ofc wouldn't that alone mean the power the arrow itself creates beyond at the very least whatever power polnareff has knowledge of? "Beyond stand powers" "beyond what exists"

@@JobberGodot stand stats seem to be hella inconsistent right? Sometimes referring to the stand itself and other times the ability only?

Yea

technically, Jolyne cannot and will not counter the effect of the infinite rotation, although it is implied that the strings of Jolyne's stand/body can become chiral or turn into a strip, it won't really negate the spin as it's literally the cells or specifically the atoms or subatomic particles inside her body that will rotate "regardless" of what structure it is, it's literally why Act 4 was able to break the Love Train barrier using the infinite rotational energy it was able to break the infinite dimensions of the wall, so any form of barrier will be influenced by spin

Blud is coping, In JoJo Fate is above anything else. WoU have Calamity based on fate. Johnny Tusk's Evolved to Act 4 because of fate even he spinning infinitely causing infinite damage because the fate was decided to. Literally everything in JoJo was based in Fate itself. Guess who can ignore and surpasses Fate? GER. Watch how he ignores absolute vision from Epitaph which is based on fate also. But Giorno simply reverses it, the fate where Giorno have to die because of Diavolo didn't happen and will not happen. That's GER for you, if GER decided to not get hit by Johnny spin he will not