Why hide the port? - Subwoofer Box Build Jeep

Why hide the port? - Subwoofer Box Build Jeep - CarAudioFabrication

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7 жыл бұрын

When making the jeep subwoofer box I needed to come up with a way to transition the material to the edge of the port. In some of my previous videos I have simply used a roundover router bit and cut extra deep into the port leaving a hard edge to cut against, but in this video I wanted to give another example of what we could do to hide a port or otherwise add an insert to a subwoofer enclosure.
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@BlazinTigger 6 жыл бұрын

I love that you kept the pvc mistake in. You learn from failure more than success, therefore we learn more from seeing the failures, and how you fix them.

@jayfargusson896 7 жыл бұрын

Not going to lie, when the PVC came apart, I totally expected a Doug Bernard explosion LOL

@damianhgn 7 жыл бұрын

I like that you showed that the PVC didn't work like you wanted it to. It shows that you too are human. No one is perfect and everyone is bound to make a mistake every now and again no matter how good they are. Keep up the good work!

@MolonFrikenLabe 7 жыл бұрын

I love the level of detail you add to your work man. Your shop is clean and your work shows a dedication to detail and quality. I've worked in several shops and it can be difficult to find installers willing to really go that extra mile. I always told my guys that every install we did was a resume. That vehicle will be seen and heard by its owner's acquaintances and if your work is done right they too will want you on their build. I can only imagine with your quality of work that you are tightly booked. Thank you for sharing the art and so many techniques, a lot of which are new to even me, with all of us.

@neftaliroman2556 2 жыл бұрын

Please don't ever apologize for your creative process. You are really good at what you do and the end results prove that. I hope I can shake your hand one day...

@DR-ld4jn 7 жыл бұрын

Nice box man.. Wouldn't expect anything less to come out of the fab kitchen!

@QuadDoc 5 жыл бұрын

Seriously Mark?! Don't ever apologize for a mistake that taught something! You took a huge amount of your time and talents to even show us... which you could have just edited out! Thank you, again for another great video! Keep up the great content!

@MelvinDlaCruz 4 жыл бұрын

I think sometimes less is better, so many think I don't like, but you work is amazing so well made

@rcarendsen 5 жыл бұрын

I think the wood looks much better then the pvc..., it has much more elegance..... The transition on top... The way it makes a hard corner is fantastic... Great job... Nicely done.

@SwordLords1234 7 жыл бұрын

I really like these longer style videos with more of your thoughts. I hope it doesn't require more of your time to make, because I feel like i learn more with this type of video.

@psementalist 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent good video brother Mark keep up the great work doing your thing. As my boss used to say if you don't ever screw up and make mistakes you'll never learn anything.

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

Hey PSE, thanks for always watching and commenting, I've gotten to know you over the years through these comments haha. You are right, its important to fail once in awhile, especially with custom fabrication having an issue here and there is part of the game.

@psementalist 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication Thanks that means alot coming from you . My wife's cousin has a Jeep I'm going to share these videos with him

@xcessdj 7 жыл бұрын

Like always, great informational videos! Without 20 explosions per video.

@adamvance2946 7 жыл бұрын

All these videos are inspiring. I can't wait to start my build.

@MrGhostVortex 7 жыл бұрын

Awesomeness!!! Love that someone uses PVC, I love working with it. Glad to see you also using a wide variety or materials, tools and techniques...it shows real skill.👍 Glad I subed

@aarondcmedia9585 7 жыл бұрын

So useful for any sort of wooden construction, thanks!

@Javierm0n0 7 жыл бұрын

for forming plastic like that i'd suggest hdpe. otherwise thanks for these vids they remind me of the skills i havne't been able to utilize for years.

@dumbass3770 7 жыл бұрын

Nice job adapting to things that don't always work out how we think they will

@sirus500 6 жыл бұрын

Well done and nice as always you do!

@macpalmer6391 7 жыл бұрын

thanks mark! love your videos

@ProbeGT2 7 жыл бұрын

Damn you know your stuff , man! You make it looks soo easy.

@m0011v 4 жыл бұрын

coming along nicely

@JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 жыл бұрын

What you did with the cove filling in that gap when using the wood is similar to what I did on my Ram's box, except I used a premade piece of cove moulding and rabbited for it, and then used a 3/4" quarter round trim block for where the top rolls over after the port to the vertical face my amp is frenched into.

@aspjake123 6 жыл бұрын

mad skills for sure, awesome videos.

@vgullotta 7 жыл бұрын

what if you just cut the perimeter of the PVC and got it nice and bent to how you like it, stick it to the box with template tape and the carry the whole box to the router table to route out the port cut out?

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

Haha honestly that probably would have worked and been a great solution, but once I saw the PVC part on the box I wasn't crazy about it, I felt it was too "thick" looking, part of the other reason I switched to using a thin piece of wood.

@vgullotta 7 жыл бұрын

yeah, it would have been a bit unwieldy trying to route that hole while it's mounted to the rest of the box. I am making a box for my Jeep, and I think I'm going to put it in a very similar, but slightly different spot. I'll take some pics when done. No way it looks as good as yours though lol, lovin the Jeep build!

@NORVAheelhook 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication couldn't you taken the PVC and boiled it in water till it was soft and then let it cool down on the box like you wanted?

@JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 жыл бұрын

Well, except instead of the router table, use a small "mini" handheld router with the flush trim bit to cut out the port. That'd be my solution

@JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 жыл бұрын

I did like the PVC idea, but I agree, 1/2" was a bit overkill. I would've done maybe 1/4 or 3/8. 1/4" would be difficult to get camfers and rabbits into and still maintain structural integrity.

@rommelvillela8825 7 жыл бұрын

You should look for folding wood with steam, by the way excellent design!

@TxStang 7 жыл бұрын

PVC foam board would also have done great if you bent it as a solid shape and did a plunge cut of the port afterwards . I used PVC board to make door panels before and that stuff works like butter and in moisture resistant .... perfect for auto use .

@ledmk2 7 жыл бұрын

Nice

@Goostradamus81 6 жыл бұрын

to make the pvc easier to work with, we put it in the oven. the whole sheet becomes a uniform temperature and is eaqually pliable. with yours, you had a wide temperature variation throughout the material, which made is susceptible to cracking and breaking. just a thought. cheers!

@vermili0138 7 жыл бұрын

The only bend I can do is a port bend with two perpendicular piece lol. waiting for the next video on this project looks promising!

@weddingdjstevedeehertfords9862 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark. Such great work.. By you.. I've watched a lot of your Videos.. You have helped me so much with my all new music system install.. I'm still working on it.. I'm hopping it will be all done in a few week.. It's sounding very good.. Good luck. Steve

@CarAudioFabrication 3 жыл бұрын

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@Trogdor-mo6tx 7 жыл бұрын

another way to help with the bend in the middle of the port that you had would to be (possibly)leave a middle "support" beam and split the port into 2......not sure if that would have worked though because of the issue you had with the outer piece...just a thought. May only work with a larger port like you said

@caraudioetc 7 жыл бұрын

Mark why didn't you apply and bend the pvc to the box and then use the flush trim bit on a hand half router to cut the hole to match the port?

@SatishKulkarni 6 жыл бұрын

HI mark, my question is does we need the port on the sub woofer box? if yes, please explain the advantage of the port. Thank you,

@PlatinumEagleStudios 7 жыл бұрын

I noticed you didn't flare the port............Unless the port doesn't need flaring. Cool build by the way :-) nice compact sub for smaller cars and trucks. Can you do a video where you test an open baffle design for a subwoofer? I'd like to see how well a car subwoofer does in an open baffle application. I know their not designed for open baffle, but I'd still like to see how well it would do :-)

@djdragstorm6320 7 жыл бұрын

You Could use some PU Glue thats how we did it every day when i worked as a carpenter for a Yacht firm where almost every corner of the furniture was bend Pu U Glue (For rooftops) worked as a charm for that.. I realy like your videos keep nup the good work

@davek5910 7 жыл бұрын

Nice plan B. I think the PVC would of worked even being thin if there were some relief cuts in the thin areas. I have not tested this its just my thoughts.

@COOPR8TV 4 жыл бұрын

What about doing all the inner cut out first on large sheet with wider wall space, then bend to shape and then finally trim to size so it doesn't snap? ?

@CarAudioInc 7 жыл бұрын

good shit!

@HifiVega 7 жыл бұрын

As soon as I seen the finished pvc piece I had a feeling it might do that... the mdf looks great though! Maybe it was a sign from the audio gods lol.

@OneZeroBassboosted 7 жыл бұрын

nice vid

@jcalmar74 7 жыл бұрын

hello! can u do a video about boombox home car audio? thankx

@personalfavoriteshill7547 4 жыл бұрын

If you hold off on cutting out the port hole until after you heat and curve the pvc, you could use a handheld router with your bearing guide bit to cut it out.

@CarAudioFabrication 4 жыл бұрын

Hindsight is 20/20 and that is what I said in the video... it probably still would have warped..

@carlosramosjr7266 3 жыл бұрын

have eny ideas On building a shadowbox for a Polaris ranger to mount to the Inside of the roof

@nwobadboys 7 жыл бұрын

Was up Mark 1st off I enjoy your channel and keep up the good work. I like the fact that you show when things go wrong. because nothing goes perfect when you build something. just a thought but did you consider using acrylic for that side port?

@paulvaladao6024 7 жыл бұрын

bent it then cut the port hole out?

@samuelskinner7218 7 жыл бұрын

Hey can you make a 12in sub box for a chevy Silverado

@speed127 6 жыл бұрын

Somehow I missed how you did the black marble finish on the plexi..... LOOKS SWEET!

@CarAudioFabrication 6 жыл бұрын

I showed it in a behind the scenes video for my Patreon supporters: www.patreon.com/caraudiofabrication

@newjoflo6916 5 жыл бұрын

So i had a question.. what is the bemefit of the port on the side also subs up port to the bottom/side

@edwinrivera5155 7 жыл бұрын

can you do something like that for 2015 Toyota Tacoma?

@BestUnderPressure 7 жыл бұрын

Not trying to troll but someone needs to count how many times he says "actually" or "actual" in this video. I'm not complaining, just an observation. Good video as usual.

@wantlandgameing 2 жыл бұрын

I would l8e to build a custom box for my 2020 jeep Cherokee any ideas

@levisalvadormontalvoperez3493 7 жыл бұрын

genial amigo saludos desde mexico

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

gracias mi amigo!

@timothyroybal4393 3 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, what is the air volume of the box? I'm looking to build a ported box that is around the same size and it's for a Rockford P3 10". I'd like to use a slotted port, rather than a circular one.

@silk94 7 жыл бұрын

You could add the grove on a unbended piece eye balling it like doug does ( it turns out perfect everytime :)) ) then twist the piece then cut the hole ?. Theoretically the hole should be on the flat surface and it should be easy . Or i could do it for 9 milion dollars :))) . Nice job, and keep it up :)

@ashemoski 7 жыл бұрын

I like the finished product, but why didn't you consider routing a relief into the box surface around the port, and inset a grille-cloth-covered frame? It could then have set flush to the surface. (Yes, the rear/bottom of the box doesn't have room for the relief, but secured on three sides would be sufficient for the small size. Just another angle.

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

I actually considered this as well. Haven't done any body filler in a while and like to vary techniques for the sake of showing different methods on video, good idea though!

@itsneuman 7 жыл бұрын

try ABS sheet. that white stuff is only good for making non-swellable speaker adapters.

@supremecommander2398 7 жыл бұрын

if you want to bend such a small piece of plastic - you should try vacuum forming in your oven. with your wood-working skills, you should be able to build a simple mold with connector for your vacuum cleaner that fits into an oven.

@eugenewilliampruski3755 7 жыл бұрын

I want that box for my Jeep! How much to make another?

@gt2slo 6 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I have a 2016 F-250 crew cab and currently have a JL 10w6 in a basic sealed rear center console box to JL specs. It's just not cutting it. Is there any chance you have any plans I could purchase for a ported setup that will bring this sub to life without a bunch of port noise? I went to a local place for a quote and they said $2400, but that just aint happening. Thanks

@flyonwall9973 6 жыл бұрын

Your port cover... IMHO to further bring continuity to the sub and amp rack cover. I think I would have painted the port panel same color as you did the little trimp ring on the rack. Still what you did looks nice.

@BassMent70 7 жыл бұрын

Taking 4-EVAH but thanks for showing the mistakes, those help just as much as the successes.

@nickf6476 5 жыл бұрын

Curious to what the box size and tuning is

@ALEX-xd7ko 6 жыл бұрын

Was wondering why you cut out the port before you bent it .

@christopherdegler4404 6 жыл бұрын

just a thought if you want to use pvc in that manner bend it first then mark your port reapply heat and cut out for the port or mark and use the router after bending yes it will be more difficult to cut the port out after the pvc has been bent and no you wont be able to use a template but its possible... ...in theory anyway

@Avaddon911 7 жыл бұрын

I think the mdf looks better anyways man that pvc looked like it would be super thick

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

I agree, part of the reason why I abandoned the idea once I saw it.

@Avaddon911 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication Amazing box so far though, I'm about to build a wall in my car and I think I'm going to stack 2x4s to make a similar style.

@ronirome2566 5 жыл бұрын

Which is better side port or front port enclosure

@thomaspigg306 7 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering why you didn't bend the pvc first, then go in through the back, make the mark for your port and cut it out secondly?

@Sandman74blue 6 жыл бұрын

For the bass port, I would not only drill a hole for the router insert of the bass port, tape it on the speaker box and bend it and the use a portable router and rout the bass port while using the bass port as a guide. Or move the entire speaker box on the table router.

@Deamonic 7 жыл бұрын

Full sheet, no hole. form it to curve, then drill a hole for the router bit, then hand (not table) router out the hole. You just won't have that inset step on the hole's backside for your wrap, but you can do all the other things you did to the pvc before bending it....

@coloradokid7985 7 жыл бұрын

I'd use fiberglass....doesn't add any more to the thickness, and a few layers of glass will look pretty slick.

@dougyoud5944 2 жыл бұрын

Are you able to help me design a ported stack-style box like this for a wheel well? Saw more standard designs in your custom box blueprint service (paid ofcourse)

@markhbiohazardchef3243 7 жыл бұрын

I was hoping you would take Doug's challenge. Show him up

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

Video editing takes time ;) You'll see something soon.

@jeffreyallen3796 5 жыл бұрын

If you would of put the port up and down vs right above the sub it would hit louder yet slower.

@kyleshelton936 7 жыл бұрын

You beat Doug! Your cedar kerfs!!! Lmao.

@pcbuildfrance 6 жыл бұрын

Question - did you calculate this port for this subwoofer box for particular resonance ?

@CarAudioFabrication 6 жыл бұрын

+Patryk Kulczyk for a tuning frequency yes.

@pcbuildfrance 6 жыл бұрын

To what frequency it was tuned ?

@hitek835 7 жыл бұрын

ABS DUDE

@st170ish 7 жыл бұрын

In hindsight could have designed the port to have a rebate that a push in insert piece goes into?

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

Yep, but I have done that recently, I like giving you guys other methods and ideas.

@codyh5232 7 жыл бұрын

Is this solid PVC sheets or "Foamed PVC"? having trouble finding solid pvc in 1/2 inch sizes.

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

Check out this previous video I did for more details on the PVC material: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZ-YjZR5ntObe6M.html

@MrSpanky473 7 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't adding thickness to the port change the tuning of the enclosure?

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

By 0.1 HZ yes, its negligible. Ambient temperature fluctuation can have more of an impact.

@MrSpanky473 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication The ear wouldn't even notice that.

@NORVAheelhook 7 жыл бұрын

Sinister I was thinking the same thing

@smartin4052 7 жыл бұрын

Sinister depends on who's ear is listening

@JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 жыл бұрын

So 1/2" in length= .5hz difference in tuning? Longer = higher? Or lower? I've always been kinda curious about that

@nikotoproximus 7 жыл бұрын

Didn't you consider make that piece with a 3D printer?

@ichigokurosaki2725 6 жыл бұрын

Try sticking the PVC in an oven and heating the whole piece next time. You will have a short working time so work fast.

@TomSmithuk 7 жыл бұрын

Port Twisted!

@mindset5794 7 жыл бұрын

I like the video! It's nice. Btw I was like the 31st comment lol

@bansheemopar 6 жыл бұрын

maybe you could have done the PVC thing by profiling only the edges and outside line, then bed it and let it cool completely. And THEN put the whole box on the router table and cut out the port out of the PVC, using the actual box as a template.

@theTylerMorale 6 жыл бұрын

"Nice Oreo looking sandwich. That's triple stuffed if you ask me."

@greekdecibel108 7 жыл бұрын

YOU SHOULD TRY MAKING A SOUND SYSTEM FOR YOUR WORK SPACE.....SO YOU CAN BUMP SOME TUNES WHILE MAKING MORE SPEAKERS TO BUMP MORE TUNES AND....yeah

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

That might be a fun project!

@elcrico123 7 жыл бұрын

sound man is calling you out when you are going to answer

@MarkParkTech 7 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't cut the hole until after the bend, so that you can keep the strength of the plastic for the initial curve. Of course, that will make the hole much harder to cut. steamed wood may also be a better option.

@CarAudioFabrication 7 жыл бұрын

This could work, only problem would be the that I wouldn’t really be able to add the rabbet groove to the backside of the hole once the piece was formed. In this case since I will be adding the cloth and vinyl wrapped around the port hole I really need that rabbet clearance.

@MarkParkTech 7 жыл бұрын

yeah, that's what I meant by much harder, it could be done, but would it really be worth breaking out the chisels for where you can't route? I can't wait to see what solution you come up with.

@MarkParkTech 7 жыл бұрын

Actually, remembered the end of your video just now. You had a very good solution. Anyway, thanks for the videos, you saved me a lot of man hours when designing my own box.

@96Wreckless96 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication you could if you used a rabbit bit with a bottom mounted bearing on a hand held router

@96Wreckless96 7 жыл бұрын

CarAudioFabrication or you could have rabbit the clearance into the box itself

@narcisoberrospe3169 6 жыл бұрын

error. deviste calentar y doblar la pieza antes de hacer los cortes.

@jbg6961 4 жыл бұрын

I think you could have made the port hole after you bent it. If you realy wanted the PVC piece.

7 жыл бұрын

I would have made the outline of the pvc, bend it on place, drill a whole in the middle and then use the router with a wheel on the inside of the port.