If you're buying purely on features for the money the Everlast is the best value for sure but, what Everlast's long term service and support will be like is hard to say. The Miller is the easiest machine to setup and use but lacks a couple of features compared to the other 2 machines. The Esab lacks some of the features that make Miller easy to use but, the Esab offers more adjustment in AC frequency than the other 2 machines and uses standard connectors for the torches like the Everlast. Links to the machines talked about in this video: Miller Multimatic 220: amzn.to/3cakyPg Esab Rebel 205 AC/DC: amzn.to/36Hqs9B Everlast MTS 225: amzn.to/3erov3S Help support the channel- buy using my Amazon links As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases and your cost is exactly the same.

Wow man, that's unbelievable about Everlast. I was on the fence with them but honestly ESAB made a better product for what I needed and their customer service was on point for me. I feel like I got a pretty awesome welder for my needs. Thanks you for unboxing!

This is a hilarious video. Agree 100% on pre-sales support experience being a good benchmark for what you might get post-sales. Keep up the good work!

I recently bought an Everlast MTS 275. They have been as responsive as any company I've worked with. They worked with me on swapping out the TIG torch for one that would work more for me. The unit arrived with a control panel that had a streak in the color. I sent them an email on a Saturday, and they responded that same day, saying they would send a new control panel out right away. Regarding the car parking in the handicapped spot, I learned many years ago that if you don't buy from companies whose owners/employees do something you don't agree with, you'll never buy anything else in your life.

Thank you for your totally honest review, I want to buy the everlast, now I am going to call them before I do. I will be a ninja!

I would definitely love to see some content of you building a welding cart , for I myself am thinking of building one as well.

I am doing research for my first welder and appreciate the comments on Everlast customer service. Don’t care too much about the parking situation only because there aren’t enough facts. Maybe it’s legit, maybe not. Either way the customer service is enough for me to not consider the green one. Especially after they failed to take ownership of it in their response to you in the comments.

I am also considering the 3 multis that have ac tig and are somewhat mobile. If I could get a rebel 205 now for $2500 I would definitely get it but unfortunately a lot has changed. I have an everlast 350ext tig machine and it's been great. I got it 2-3 years ago and pre sales was great, i had a problem and they gave me a choice of sending me the parts or sending a complete unit. They had one at my house super fast with absolutely no out of pocket for shipping, etc. They sent me a new pedal later on, again quick turnaround and no out of pocket. Their pedals kind of sucked so I bought an SSC and it's been great. Yet another experience with support was the quickly responded with instructions for cleaning a valve which solved the problem. It not saying your findings are invalid, just sharing my experience. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. 👍

I will give it to ESAB their customer service is on point, I've got a 205 aswell.

Great video ...good job by doing the backround search.

I just bought the lightning mts275 model from them about 1 month after the time you posted this video. If we are thinking of the same guy in their sales dept then yeah half the time he came off like I was being a nuisance by asking questions. But he did hook me up with a torch upgrade for cheap so it made it worth it

Queestion can you conect to this machine pull and push mig gun for aluminium welding and the mig gun have alsou the puls welding? Thanks Pete

Things like the owner's attitude, and customer service are important. We all need to be a little more conscious of voting with our dollars.

Could you a quick little video of the information on the inside of the door. Ive tried to look everywhere to see what kind of info it gives on setting for process and metal thicknesses like miller and lincoln does but cant find it anywhere.

look at their street view now, its even better lol

FML, this model went from $2500 to $4,000. Missed this boat lol.

Heck ya want to see it all man

Thank you for the review. I was totally onboard with Everlast and looking at their MTS products. I’m now rethinking this. They have great options but the supposed attitude of the company is inexcusable. I will contact them and let them know that they lost a $2500 sale. Good to know from others about the amount of return. I have to rethink. Again, thanks. Henry.

Thank you for the 411. I wouldn’t buy Everlast boxing equipment, much less a welder. I’m going with ESAB. WHat a jerk parking in the blue. I saw that right before you even mentioned. Parking in the handicap is a tool move

I'm stuck between a multimatic 255 or a esab 285ic I just can't decide which is best

That so cool that you went to google maps, San Fran sucks away.

Damn thank you fo this video, I'm currently stocking a workshop with welders & I was looking at Everlast because of social media hype but now I've narrowed it to ESAB & Miller

I had a great sales experience with Everlast and they did give me a lot of technical support explaining the products. I had to call twice though because they didn’t call me back within 2 hours of asking for technical information. So I bet that’s the guy with the sports car 😂. Everyone I talked to, three people, all had accents which made me nervous but they were terrific to work with. I just hope the welder works well and lasts. That’s all I care about honestly.

As for the handicapped parking. I owned a production facility, commercial production facility, that had VERY LIMITED, customers coming and going. They came at times for inspections, and for very advanced or complicated reasons, etc. etc. but they are coming to an industrial facility. VERY MUCH THE SAME, as the facility showed in the video. "I don't believe that is any kind of retail or customers coming and going type of a place." why there is a handicapped spot, I have no idea, maybe its required by law, maybe it was there previous, have no idea. But "if" my previous business had a handicapped spot, I would have had no issue parking in it, because there was ZERO expectation, and/or possibility anybody would be coming to use it. (It kind of would have been useless to be honest.) I'm not sure this is in anyway a comparison, but by observation to me it seems as though it is..... In the end, I agree, it's not a good look. But WAY WAY too much speculation as to whose car it is, and if that is appropriate or not. It's not a retail location, drug store, shopping mall, doctors office, etc. etc. to me its a big "who cares" and for those who say they bought elsewhere because of it..... (I HAD TO LAUGH). As for the customer service guy being rude, THAT'S A BIG DEAL, even acting like you were wasting his time, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. I wouldn't have bought from them either if he didn't want to give me a few minutes of his time. And THAT happens to me regularly these days with American businesses. To be honest, I never bought of China, unitl COVID. American businesses drove me to open accounts all over China, because I got tired of them telling me it was going to take them 8 weeks, to cut a 300 foot piece of cable off the real and ship it to me for $2,500. So I bought it from china for $350 and they shipped it to me and I had it within 5 days. Cost of shipping was less than $100. I paid for next day shipping for a trucking tarp, I needed for a piece of eqiupment we were moving, all in sstock, on the shelf. I paid for next day air. Never arrived. I called, they said... "Oh, we are backed up shipping products, and finding employees during covid is difficult." I said, "Cancel the order, after they said it would take them 4 days to take the tarp off the shelf and put it in a box." I told them, "My family, my wife, my kids, my elderly parents, and aunts, uncles the neighbos and whoever else I needed would be pullin gorders and packaging them and keeping up, REGARDLESS, of the emplyee situation and making excuses to my clients. That is ridiculous." And there reply was that they basically didn't care. Which was fine with me. So we ordered tarps out of China, had em here in 8 days as well. America needs to get their shit in order as it relates to customer service, and as an engineer, when I DO GET, customer service on the phone, they are hafl the time dumber than a box of rocks. And when company engineers send me to dealers, I tell them up front, "if a dealer could answer my engineering question, I wouln'dt have called you, the manufacturer to begin with, I would have called them. But you are going to send me to your dealer, who can't answer the question. it will take him 2 days of phone tag and messing around for me to ask him, and for him to say, DUH. And then he will get back to you,, and after days of messing around you will get him the answer, and then 2 days of getting me on the phone, and we've wasted 8 days of playing games. I'll have my answer from some company, by the end o ftoday, the part or machine will be ordered. So when you reply back in 6 or 8 days, I will beusing the competitors machine for 5 of those already, HAPPILY.

Trying to make this decision myself. Leaning toward the Miller. Mainly for speed of changing processes...

Love to know how well it’s held up after 2yrs and any issues you may have had.

im glad you showed the car in the handicap spot. i went with esab instead.

Everlast has a 275 AC/DC MTS, Miller has stopped with its AC/DC MTS at the 220. Miller's Multimatic DC only MTS 255 is the most powerful modern MTS from miller yet with a large easy to read TFT. (Miller recently announced a millermatic 355 DC pulse mig only unit for 2022). USAWeld's HTP Propulse is a great line and has lots of positive feedback about it's customer service regarding resolving issues with the product. Their propulse 300 mts is right this moment over 1000 more than miller's multimatic 255 mts.

There are only two things to do to go from MiG to TIG on the ESAB. Switch the connector from the MiG gun to the foot switch for the TIG. Then plug the TIG torch into the negative and the work plug into the positive. That’s it, other than going to the TIG function, which you have to do with every machine. Who goes from MiG to TIG and back during welding? I never do. I’m either welding in MiG or TIG, or stick (rarely!), or flux core. It takes a minute to switch, unless you’re changing MiG wire. That’s always a hassle. Everlast is a second tier company. They’re ok, but their support is questionable. When I bought my ESAB, I called them up as a had a few questions. I happened to mention that there was a small gauge on the rear handle, just in passing. The guy wanted to send me another machine. I had to persuade him that it was fine. Meanwhile if your Everlast breaks down, they expect you to open it and run tests. No, unless you volunteer to do that, they shouldn’t require it, but they do. That’s a no no.

Just because you see a nice car in a handicap parking space doesn't mean the driver is not handicapped. There may be a permanently affixed symbol on the license plate. It is very common to see a vehicle without a sticker or tag that has a permanent plate. As far as the customer service goes, I can't say but I will definitely check for myself and consider that as a factor when I make my purchase soon. So thanks for the heads up there! I hope my experience is better than yours though, I'm really leaning towards the Everlast.

Hey bud! loving the videos. Just curious if after a couple years you'd still recommend your Bendpak hoist? I watched all your videos on it, I was just curious if your opinion has changed any after owning it for so long and using it with different vehicles etc.I'm looking at hoists now, but my options locally boil down to the Bendpak or a less affordable Rotary. Let me know what you think! Again awesome videos!

I know your probably not into flux core wire but can you demo that please? I use a lot of inner shield with my fronius but I’m thinking of picking one of these up

That's the exact reason why I went with a primeweld TIG 225x because how much of a jerk off the guy is at Everlast I've had my welder for 2 years now and I have never been happier and I've even purchased the maxcool 3000 water cooler from primeweld and CK worldwide flex lock fl230 water cooled TIG torch on my machine now too!!!! Best money I've ever spent all because of great customer service!!

Hey by any chance do you know if your rebel 205 are you able to lift start or scratch and start without the pedal ? My rebel works fine with everything except one feature the 2t 4t . I bought an esab Tig torch compatible with the 205 . It’s from a 235 and it has the remote trigger . But each time I set it to weld 4t it goes back to 2t. It’s frustrating me

Love the multimatic and theres tons of torches available from ck and they sell the gas thru connector. Just thought id let you know.

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I love the analogy of everlast. I am replacing a miller 250 I bought in 1996. I am also between miller and esab. Looks like I will go with miller. One of the things that I liked about the miller it's not a big deal but is that the fan is on demand so it doesn't run constantly. A job we have in the shop right now is stretching a cab. You spend more time fiting and fabing parts and adjusting then you do welding so I just leave it on. If the fan was on non-stop I would feel compelled to turn it off and on all day. I don't know how the fan works on the one you have there.

Pulse Tig (DC only) 1 - 500p/s on Esab.

I have been a welder for over 10 years I used to be a lincoln fan when I was growing up welding on the farm but sense then I like miller the best have ran easab it was okay I think miller has much better leads

Is AHP affiliated with Everlast? I see AHP boxes in their parking lot.

I totally agree with your analogy of Everlast! I am glad you showed me the goggle picture of the red sports car in the handicap parking spot, just put icing on the cake for me! I contacted Everlast, as you did and like you, they did not want to talk about the product, only get my credit card number to order one. I was only in my gathering information stage and I wanted to make an informed decision. To me, the salesperson was not knowledgeable at all. I did like the five-year warranty, I ended up purchasing an ESAB 215ic, wish I would have waited for 205ic (both AC and DC Tig) 215ic only DC. So now I am in the market for a Tig welder, But I can tell you what it won't be! Thanks again for the info. Best of luck with your business.

well here I am deciding whether i get the miller, esab, or everlast. and im pretty convinced now, even tho the esab is now 3850 which is near double the everlast. cyberweld has a 200 buck gift card and a free 580 helmet with esab. so i think id be going that route for a grand more lol. ps i think everlast is made in china.

Get it off your chest. Lol. I agree 100% if someone does me wrong then F em. I have a couple Hobarts and have contacted them with questions they are really knowledgeable, friendly, and even return your call. Service is part of s purchase and if they don't give s shit or can't be bothered then neither can I. 👍

Of course it has pulse tig for aluminum it’s called a foot pedal

What can you say about Esab EMP 215iC.....cheers

FRONIUS

Nice eval of the features. I too dislike companies that do not want to work to earn your business, even something like good telephone manners. I have the same welding table as you do, and will probably build a small one of my own. I would really like to see you do a table build, if that is something you are planning. Or hear your thoughts on which one you chose.

But, the Miller does have a pulse mode in the menu.

Boa noite. Para eu a everlast é a melhor!!!!!!!! Vocês conseguem enviar para o Brasil Uma power mts 252 sti ac\dc tig bivolt com todos os componentes da máquina? Quanto fica

Great investigative work on the Everlast facility. I live in southern California and I see these business owners with high-end cars park like this all the time. Typically in the medical field such as pharmacies, dentists, chiropractors, etc. They feel entitled being the owner of the businesses and feeling like they can park anywhere they want including the handicap zones. I typically steer clear of such businesses as I feel such people put their earnings ahead of their employees and customers. Just FYI, I'm a strong believer is capitalism and have no issues with the 1% or even the .0001%. Douchebagism is douchebagism.

I hope you know that you can swap out the Torch on any machine. You don't need to buy the lead every time you buy a Torch. They sell the heads on their own. I switch torches a the time 😆

I can second the poor customer service I attempted to contact the representative on eBay and I had multiple questions in my message and only one of em got answered, I don't get it like did the person just not read the entire message or just couldn't be bothered to answer them.

I've noticed a pattern with commercial grade suppliers who also sell retail. They have a relative tendency to treat you like hot garbage for a mere 2-6 thousand dollar purchase when they sell industrial machines for 50 grand. Had the most awful purchasing experience from Powermatic, and also Laguna tools. Powermatic was breathtakingly awful.. Laguna just sloppy and not set up for customers with any problems.

After reading your comment on the negative thumbs down spamming from Everlast, I just really wanted to compensate with a positive feedback. This is why youtube exists in the fist place! Free speech! It upsets me companies dedicate time and effort to put youtubers down.

Idk but I have to everlast love them 250 amp ac dc tig cooler pulse the works favorite machine 250ex

Just a heads up to those who are starting with welding. Changing leads to change process is something you'll do so rarely it literally won't make a difference to you, in fact you usually have to move them anyways. Say you're TIG welding a small tank on a truck and want to go to MIG larger pieces on the same truck, you'll want to move your torch out of the way so you can have a comfortable work area. That being said Miller is a terrible brand overall. They have the smoothest arc but fall flat on everything else. Not reliable, features to cost are pathetic, repair costs are garbage, parts are brand locked. That being said ESAB and EVERLAST are better comparisons. But the sales experience is concerning

Maybe they have a handicap license plate like I do because I am permanently disabled. Stop judging without all the facts.

HTP Pro Pulse 220

Was the guy from Everlast that you spoke to named "Alex"? Has a foreign accent of some kind, possibly East Europen or Middle-Eastern

I thought it was a Dewalt welder ;-)

Has the machine ever sounded like a jet engine?

i just watched a video on the miller and they ran pulse

Not to be the one that corrects you. But many states have a license plate that is handicapped approved with no hang tag needed. So that’s kind of a stupid reason for exclusion. I did buy the Esab 205 also but not because someone parked in a handicap spot.

then how can you recommend something more than the other if you have not used the other brands? It is like saying you do not like the taste of bananas if you have not tried once eating a banana?

It is NEVERLAST. So good for you choosing ESAB.

Everlast just plain sucks, ask anyone that has had to have warranty work done!

You get for what you pay

Funny on that parking job, at their old building I was there and the owner parked his Porsche on the wrong side of the street, IOW, the wrong way in front of their building. I'm pretty sure that's the owner's car, but don't know for certain. They do sell a lot of machines, and have a lot of failures. Horrible customer support, I sold my green weenie and will never buy another Everlast machine. I replaced my Everlast i-Tig 201 with an Esab Miniarc Rogue 180i, I also have a Primeweld 225x. No more green weenies for me, EVER!

I apologize you had a bad experience on the phone, we always strive to give the best customer service possible. One of our customer service guys passed earlier this year, so we have been down a man and doing our best to replace him. Everyone is working overtime to pull the extra weight. As for the machines being outside, they are being loaded onto the freight truck that is also shown I'm the picture. The handicap space, it is the owners vehicle and he has a legal handicap placard. Hopefully that addresses all the issues raised on this video.

Everlast has a horrible customer service from reviews i seen on line

more features more problems, going for miller.

To those of you who say that a genuinely handicapped person wouldn't own a ferrari, get better. A friend of mine had a bagged 1500 chevrolet pickup that I've literally watched him struggle to get into an out of from his wheel chair hundreds of times, because he likes the truck. To the point of making me feel bad watching him getting in and out. It's uncomfortable, but he's a car guy. Stop treating the handicapped like they're incapable of getting what they want just because they're handicapped. I'm not saying this guy is. He might not be. But a, hippa means it's none of your god damned business if he is, and b, you're the kind of people who yelled at me when I was riding with my boy for parking in handicapped parking because they assumed it was me driving. Be better.

How often do you think that handicapped people visit Everlast? California has gone WAY overboard on the handicapped space mandate. That's a really dumb reason to pass on their product.

$200 extra for Esab? You mean $1800 more for Esab.

I had a great experience with everlast . Before i purchased the MTS 275, I researched the same 3 brands as you. If you look up the specs and features on all 3 brands, the mts 275 blows the other 2 away. Pulse tig, 60% duty cycle, ect, do the research. I call Everlast tech support, before i purchased my unit. Just to see who i got, i got a very very helpful tech. Who even gave me his cellphone # for future help with problems or operating questions. Right there i was sold! $2500.00 with free shipping And a nova pedal and torch up grade. 👍

2nd that on Everlast.

Handicap spaces are required for ALL buildings by law... but if you are in an industrial setting the spaces never get used. At my place of work, an industrial factory, the handicap spaces are required, but they sit empty, literally, every day. I don't blame the guy for using a space that is, more than likely, never used. If you have never worked at a factory I could imagine how this is not common knowledge.

Everlast has wonderful customer service. I have especially recieved phenominal phone support from Tatiana. She is always lovely and very professional. I hope you give them a second chance as I have had many great experiences purchasing from them.

The MTS 225 is $1000 less than the ESAB, not $200. I think you must've been referring to the MTS 275 in the pricing comparison.

UM

I would like to add my personal experience for 3 years now of talking with the Everlast Sales and support department. I have always experienced nothing but great responses and support. I do agree with everyone that Sales and Customer Support is important. I would caution negative feedback if you have not had personal experience. The Everlast Powertig and i-Mig 140E welders have been very good welders for me for about three years now.

intents and purposes*** your entire video and experience is now null and void because you said that wrong, and because you complained for 3 entire minutes about parking on private property. Only kidding, I would have responded the exact same way to your customer service experience, especially when spending thousands of dollars on a product. google maps was a little much haha. Thanks for the video, I am currently juggling my options, and Miller is now officially out because of the proprietary cable you mentioned. I hadn't heard that before, and that kind of proprietary stuff is the reason I will never buy an Apple product either.

This video does not gives me any useful information about the machines. 😕 except what I experience as a lot of judgmental comments.

Why for the love of crawfish do you care about someone parking their car ? You assume that car has NO handicap license plate . Keep your overviews about welding purchases within the scope of the topic . Geez dude Ya sound like a whiny kid .

You complain alot

In regards to the handycapped Ferrari driver, plated as such or not, if you can get in and out of that car then you can walk the extra 30 or 40 feet across the fricken parking lot. I see handycap privilege frequently abused by people perfectly able to move about unrestricted. On topic: I was about to buy an Everlast. Now I am not sure since your video has given me reason for pause. Thumb up!

Picked a welder partly due to a random Ferrari parked in a handicap space? Disregards the actual capability...lol🤣 Have you compared the product support video between all 3 companies on youtube? .....Not even close. One company has more than the other 2 COMBINED....

Did you pay for that haircut? Asking for a friend

hello, hope you’re having a good day sir. imagine taking the time to zoom in on a location and accusing a car of wrongfully being in a handicap spot. for all u know, there might be a handicap symbol on the license plate. i’m sure that the people that are working there are ethical and churning out a brilliant product. think before u speak bud.

I’m sorry. I thought this was about the welding machine. I don’t want to get involved in a urinating distribution contest but I really don’t want to hear about what the owner drives or where he parks. That’s his business. I am only responsible for what I do or say. So I’ll say this, get over yourself and grow up! For the money the Everlast product is a much better buy. If you want to shoot yourself in foot or wallet because someone hurt your feelings, go ahead. My grandmother called that a bought lesson. By the way I’ve been welding 40+ years and know what’s I’m talking about. AWS/CWI 97040121.

What does the car have to do with the product? Who watching this garbage?

Why I am NOT buying an ESAB Rebel welder is because it is built in CHINA !! If I need to get a Chinese welder, I'll buy it at Harbor Freight . Guys, support our country, buy USA !!