Personally I do judo because I have rods in my spine, long term grappling is insanely difficult on my body, and I can't move correctly for certain techniques. I do Judo so I can learn techniques on how to stay up, and if I go down, I can try and get up quickly.

We're a small group

Same. But I’m glad others exist

I think the same 👍🏼🥋🎌

Start training bjj then went to judo& jujutsu . I felt like the judo and jujutsu work better ,in a situation on the street if I find myself. Plus dc characters like Batman, nightwing and black canary inspired me

Which Ryu do you belong to?

@@SoldierAndrew it’s a branch of Goshin Ryu

Thanks for describing your experience, it confirms my thoughts as I look into beginning my martial arts journey.

I was thinking of starting kenpo...trained in GO JU for years...

@@paultrippodo7020 these two styles blend very well together and the weakness of one is the strenght of the other.

bocajujutsu.com has a good amount of information on the school. I will be citing more of the journey later, mainly it's been an effort to step out of the Kenpo box to learn new stuff and bring it back in.

No disrespect intended, Sam, but Tracy's kenpo is spelled TRACY'S.

If someone does a striking martial art (so already is good at standing up) which one would you recommend BJJ or Judo?

Really 🤔 I found the judo club very open and inviting. I'm happy I learned to break fall properly and iv have a handful of throws that work for me.

I grew up doing kajukenbo and now in my 30s I’m doing judo. It’s an amazing journey that complement each other well

He is from the Miyama Ryu system originally. He was a student until Shinan Pereira passed away and then began is training under Shinan Negron under the San Yama Bushi Ryu system. They are sister schools basically.

@ArtofOneDojo massive respect 🙏 . I have worked with a few of GM Pereira' s students over the years ( part of my Jujutsu lineage is from GM Sirangano and GM Michael Depasquale) and they were very capable in all areas! If you're ever in the Orlando area, we have a few schools here that teach a variety of the old and new systems. We also have the annual World Warrior Alliance conference in August in Orlando. Train hard and be safe!

Yeah, Judo and Kenpo mesh VERY well together.

Very interesting perspective!

I did 20 as a cop. I cannot but agree whole heartedly. Judo - including the newaza of traditional judo - should be mandatory for LE personnel.

BJJ is more important. The emphasis on newaza is more useful for police when it comes to controlling and detaining people, as well as survival from the back/guard against larger, stronger suspects. Cops only need a handful of takedowns, the rest of their training should be newaza focused.

For self defense and police combatives Judo is in my opinion better then BJJ . With judo you can control a guy and trow him to the ground and no guard pulling there.

@@dylan_krishna_777 Concur, especially if one trains in traditional Kodokan Judo, which has a complete newaza curriculum. This very topic has been covered by Sampson Judo, which is a great channel.

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@ArtofOneDojo I might be having to move to a different state for financial reasons. But I've been with the school im at for 4 years now and I've put in a lot of work there and learned a lot and it really felt like family. It just feels like I'm losing everything I worked towards even though I know I'm gonna take what I've learned with me.

Can you instructor recommend a school in your new area?

I personally feel JJJ, Judo, and BJJ mix very well with most arts.

​@@ArtofOneDojo would say judo, jjj, bjj, aikido and wrestling would be a stronger mix as it covers all kinds of grappling from all angles

Totally agree, I do judo and jjj

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​@@ArtofOneDojoJJJ covers everything except non samurai stuff - single fingers and other non niceties. The complaint about JJJ teaching in most schools - not enough sparring as techniques are extremely dangerous (like joint breaks). I was doing JJJ rebranded as Military (not combat) SAMBO - mostly drills and unrealistic (overextended) rubber knife attacks ... But builds reflexes even without pressure practice.

It depends on where you live. I'm in South Florida and we have so many different types of Schools, but in my particular area there aren't many.

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Well, it definitely has smaller circles :P Seriously though, I haven't delved too deep into it but I'm very much open to it. I love tight wrist control techniques.

Are you referring to Mizu Martial Arts? Their Channel is pretty cool. I am not affiliated with them.

Because they like to feel elite.

BJJ is for everyone. Even the crippled old 75 year olds get benefit from just getting on the mat and drilling. The same goes for Judo, of course. Not everyone is for BJJ, though. BJJ does better in the worst-case scenarios, which was its point. The worst place to be in a real fight is on the bottom against bigger people. When you CAN'T keep the fight standing, you need to rely on newaza, which BJJ is far superior at than Judo. If you can, you should train both - Roger Gracie did this most famously.

It should have randori. In my opinion every art should have pressure testing. BJJ would be terrible if they never rolled. They're great because they are always pressure testing.

@@ArtofOneDojo agree. The place I trained at way way way back when did not, but their technique was so good and refined. And they actually did breakfalls right! Bjj does not do breakfalls. We ain’t got time for that.

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I didn't go into BJJ because as I we had some BJJ at our school. My instructor trained MMA fighters and he himself got into BJJ and we BJJ classes right before our Kenpo classes. Did that casually for a couple of years and got a good idea of it. I'm not ranked or even good at BJJ, but I grew respect and appreciate it. I chose Judo/Japanese Jujutsu specifically for the standup grappling. BJJ is very limited in the standup grappling in comparison, and Kenpo does have a lot of takedowns but Kenpo doesn't do any of the throwing and standup grappling I wanted. I find that all three together make a really solid mix.

@@ArtofOneDojo this makes sense, thank you for the reply! Love your videos

I remember it vaguely, I thought it was cool but didn't watch a ton of it. Didn't it have a lot of the stunt actors from the Mortal Kombat movie?

@ArtofOneDojo yep that's the one. And it had Shannon Lee (Bruce Lee's daughter) as a commentator.

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Founder of Judo was a master in several traditional Jujutsu styles. It’s a gendai style of JJ.

I didn't say they were. I chose Judo but in that pursuit it led me to Jujutsu. Judo is a branch off Jujutsu though, just like BJJ is a branch off Judo. It's all good stuff!

Judo comes from jjj.

Why the time limit? Why limit it to 3 years? Judo is a great workout and works great for self defense. Definitely worth sticking with it, even if you don't want black belt (which takes more than 3 years) or to go into competition.

@@ArtofOneDojo I say this because of the toll it takes on the body for one. For two, judo is a great art but a small percentage of what takes place in a street fight so there are more important factors to work on in my opinion. As far as grappling arts I feel that wrestling and Jiujitsu are far superior and judo would compliment that training and shouldn’t be the primary focus when prepping for street self defense.

@@808frontline I definitely agree it works as a supplement for other arts. I'm personally learning a Japanese Jujutsu/Judo mix and find it works great with Kenpo. I wouldn't limit it though to a specific time period. Yes there can be a toll on the body just like in any art, but if practiced safely there are still a lot of benefits to redeem from it.

Judo Throw and be in dominant position when it goes to the ground

If that were the case, the Judoka would be dominating MMA. Many Judo throws aren't relevant to real fighting because they give up the back, or run the risk of the opponent getting up before you can. This is why BJJ went back to the classical fighting roots and said "the fight doesn't stop when it hits the ground". Train both, though. BJJ guys absolutely need to work on their standup, because the sport of BJJ has lied to them about the reality of fighting.

​@@tjl4688 Khabib, Islam Makkachev, Umar Numagnumedov, Ronda Rousey, Karo Persian all Judo black belts.

I didn't "graduate" FROM Kenpo...I added additional training. I'm still very much with Ed Parker Kenpo, I said that much in this video that I was finding great blend between Jujutsu (Jiu Jitsu is BJJ). I'm sorry but I don't agree that Ed Parker was a scam artist. That's not a debate I want to get into but there is a lot of conjecture out there that isn't true and too many politics. I don't agree with everything he did with the system, but his American Kenpo is very intelligently designed and can be a very quality system with the right school and a person willing to deep dive it. I feel that jujutsu and Kenpo complement each other

@@ArtofOneDojo Come back to Kosho Ryu of James Mitose. Come back home to the Old Pine Tree where it all started... Finally, beyond Brazilian Jiu jitsu is Traditional Japanese Jiu jitsu. You ought to look into it. It's not a sport anything. It encompasses weapons, calligraphy, Shiatsu massage, diet and cooking, physiology and anatomy, flower arrangement (nothing gay about this), archery, equestrian, knots tying, swimming and diving, and Japanese language lessons spoken and written, and aspects of Zen Buddhism... Wazas of real Jiu Jitsu is designed to kill on battlefields. Sports Jiu Jitsu took out all the teeth, fangs, and claws

Mitose's art was radically different, and he was a major controversial figure himself. I appreciate the advice, but respectfully, I'm very happy with my current training

@@ArtofOneDojo : My last words. James Mitose was a genuine Master, but a despicable man. He was a loan shark, and loaned money to Japanese immigrants at very high rates. When they were unable to pay, he sent a Black martial art student he trained to collect. The name is Terry Lee changed his name post prison sentence (for murdering a Japanese man with the art Mitose taught him) to nee Nimr Hassan. Today this man opened a dojo on the East Coast, teaches fellow Black people, and claims direct line as last disciple of James Mitose....He fathered children, and left their mothers. He refused to raise them, and gave them away for adoptions. Thomas Barrow Mitose was raised by a White family. He also had a daughter, too ....At least he didn't abort them. He ran and owned brothels / whore houses... There is a lot more to the story. For those interested can research for yourselves. That's it. I'm finished... I like you, Sir, and appreciate your postings. Just want to say. Maybe some day I'll invite you to lunch, and it won't be at the local diner, McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, and the like... FYI: Mitose Family History, I don't know how much of it is made-up and a fiction and how much is real...At the very least, I do not know anyone who has visited the Buddhist temple and mountain in Japan where it supposedly all got started some 800 years ago...Claims of legitimacy always involve citation of ancientness of family, knowledge, et cetera. So, keep that in mind.

But they train very differently. Shotokan and Judo are both Japanese but not the same at all. And BJJ definitely has a Brazilian influence so it's not just straight Japanese. BJJ is derived from Judo, yes, but if you go into a Judo school and a BJJ school you will see very different training.

All comes down to the school. If he wasn't from a school who pressure tested and he walked into your school that does a lot of pressure testing, he wasn't going to fare well. That isn't art specific.

We know we know, bjj is superior to ALL martial arts. We know that sitting like a cockroach and sliding around on your butt is intimidating. We know that the day helio was born a double rainbow and a glowing new star appeared in the heavens to herald the birth. We know, we know traditional martial arts are bullshido. 🙄

Why does it look fake? We're showing drills where we're learning and practicing how to do the moves properly and our partners are going with it to make sure no one gets hurt. The footage I showed is just class practice and running drills. It wasn't full resistance application.

@ArtofOneDojo maybe that was a little harsh, and I'm only judging by a few seconds of footage in the video, but tell me you think someone could ever execute the technique at 3:11 in a live scenario. It's the same type of "show" techniques that kempo wastes so much time focusing on, that could only be executed on a cooperative partner who is standing there letting you do the technique. Go visit the Judo school for even one class and you'll see how different it is.

@@limbroto That footage was us working flow drills. Wasn't specifically about applying that combination in a live scenario, but understanding and experimenting with how one movement can flow into another. If an opponent resists, feeling the tension and path of least resistance and working into a new motion. It's not a "show" technique, and that's the same thing with Kenpo. I don't know if you've watched this channel previously, but Kenpo is my background and this is a conversation we've had on here a lot. The biggest misconception in Kenpo is that those technique sequences are supposed to be memorized and pasted into a live scenario. That is not the case. They are not "show" techniques at all, they are "case studies". Best example I can think of, someone is studying law to be a lawyer. They have text books, with case studies. They read about and study a variety of legal cases in their education. But what is the chance they are going to encounter a case that plays out the exact same way? Same people involved, location, scenario, laws broken, charges, arresting authorities, jury...etc. Virtually none. But then why read and study those cases? Because they are examples of strategies and legal techniques that were used in a scenario so that the lawyer can learn how the system flows, works, and how to manipulate it. Kenpo is the same way. We have 154 technique sequences but they are not fighting sequences. They are really only variations of 5-10 techniques (depending how you break it down) and they are used to show how our basics and principles work together in a variety of different scenarios. We're not supposed to copy and paste a technique. But each technique can be broken down into 20 mini lessons on different basic applications that CAN be applied. After becoming proficient with the system and understanding that, applying the basics in free flow become much more natural. I've used pieces of these techniques in real life, including 3 steps from one of our Kata. There are two major problems with this approach, 1, most Kenpo schools don't teach to that depth. Many DO think it's a copy and paste sort of deal. Unfortunately there are a lot of Kenpo McDojos. But if you find a school or instructor that can teach how to break it down, it's a lot of good stuff. The second problem is, it's a very specific way to learn and doesn't work for or appeal to everyone. But it is a way to learn and if the student wants to put the time in, the value is there. This wasn't mean to be a lecture and I apologize if it comes across that way, but I just wanted to stress that they aren't "Show" techniques. The context is HEAVILY important and usually doesn't come across in video segments.

@@limbroto The other Judo school I mentioned actually turned out to be an affiliate. Not of the same school system, but an unofficial sister school and my Shihan taught there on occasion to help out. He's 9th degree in Jujutsu and 3rd in Judo and he teaches both. I've DEFINITELY seen the difference, he'll usually teach us both ways for a variety of techniques.

@@ArtofOneDojo my replies don't seem to be posting but I tried

Are you implying that JuJutsu/Judo are not as much of a workout as BJJ? Having done both I strongly disagree. BJJ will gas you the hell out and give you a MAJOR workout on the ground. But doing Judo for 2 hours being thrown over and over again and doing throwing...I would argue is just as much of a workout. "If you don't want to sweat. If you don't want to work hard". I come home from class drenched and a pound lighter from water weight loss. If you're not sweating in a JJJ/Judo school then you're at the wrong school.

@@ArtofOneDojo didn't say Judo. Japanese jujitsu is easy. I train in Judo and BJJ

@@bloodline321That's definitely not the case for every school. Our Jujutsu school is a major workout. I mentioned Judo because I mentioned it up in the video. Both BJJ and JJJ are major workouts, they focus on different areas. I stand by my comment, if the Jujutsu is easy and doesn't make you sweat, you're at the wrong school.

@@ArtofOneDojo well, that's why I left that every Judo school does Japanese jujitsu so you're misunderstanding me. I currently train in Bjj and another school Judo. I trained in Japanese ju jitsu. I won't mention the professors name but it wasn't a workout. It was very ritual. Wrist and other attacks from standing . The joints were not practical. They would work on a non-trained opponent, but someone who has any athleticism, or any knowledge of Judo or Bjj would definitely not fall for the tricks.

@@bloodline321 You are supporting my point. You went to a school, you didn't find it valuable, it wasn't a challenge or effect so you left it. You should have. But that's not all JJJ schools. And not all Judo schools teach JJJ, many are focused specifically on competition. Shoulder throws, wrist locks, joint locks, aren't tricks anymore than the kimura, americana, or double leg takedowns are. If the school is pressure testing and teaching variables and pushing students to work spontaneously with that they can manipulate in the moment, and that's a good thing. If it's just ritual and no effort, then of course that won't be effective and you are correct, you should leave that school. I've seen really bad BJJ schools too that don't offer much of a workout. It's not the art, it's the school.