Why I Don't Like Acid Stained Concrete

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TimDCVA

TimDCVA

Күн бұрын

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0:00 Intro
0:23 Mixing Acid Stain
0:54 Spraying Acid Stain
2:10 Washing Acid Residue
3:55 Rinsing & drying the concrete
5:27 Mixing orange dye
5:50 Dying the concrete
7:11 Sealing the stained concrete
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Пікірлер: 84
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA 2 жыл бұрын
Check out our new stained concrete course here: decorativeconcreteschool.teachable.com/p/stained-concrete
@DapperSurfacesLLCRochester
@DapperSurfacesLLCRochester Жыл бұрын
In the class do you cover when acid stains are a bad choice because there isn't enough cement paste left on the surface to react and your better off using a non reactive product? ;)
@stevepesut5304
@stevepesut5304 8 ай бұрын
Been doing concrete for 50 years,never liked acids,like you said,you never know what color it’s going to be. My product of choice for coloring is the Smiths water based colors,I’ve had absolutely good luck with the product and the people I’ve done it for really like the distressed look on the slabs. You did a great job of pleasing the customer on this one.
@vinceruland9236
@vinceruland9236 Жыл бұрын
I do this for a living as well and you pretty much nailed it. Yes, that old slab has zero Portland left on the surface so you're basically staining the fine aggregate. Looked great when finished!!
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@effectivetactics422
@effectivetactics422 6 ай бұрын
We have always premeasured a bucket, marked the level, and cut a hole in the bucket at that line. Usually about a 1” square. Then we fill a garbage can full of water. Set a board across the edge of the garbage can to set the bucket on. Then you just dip the bucket to fill it up and it will drain to your exact measurement every time. It’s really fast and very consistent. We kept the buckets and makes them for the material we uses with them and the measurement. Then you’ll have a bucket labeled “Quikrete 60 pounds/1 gallon.
@johnhubert339
@johnhubert339 7 ай бұрын
I have added paint to the sealer to enhance colors in the past. I've added paint to concrete to put some color in it while pouring. Adding paint to the sealer seems to have the most dramatic effect.
@psalwasser
@psalwasser 8 ай бұрын
I tint my sealer with dissolved antique release powder. and skip the acetone phase. nice job on this slab
@patsfitlife9867
@patsfitlife9867 9 ай бұрын
Have a driveway about 8 years old, while building pool cement truck broke part of it! So have driveway 2 different color would you suggest this or thoughts? Thank you great video!
@jolenebuermann2755
@jolenebuermann2755 3 ай бұрын
Nice work
@FABBAR-eg7lh
@FABBAR-eg7lh 4 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks for this great video. I have a question. We have our house recently done by a contractor, and they colored the concrete by a adding oxide pigments to the mix (to make it burgundy-ish). They did not apply any sealer. I was unaware that I couldn't use white vinegar on concrete (whoops!) and now there's a segment of it that is a lighter colour (so far I managed to hide it mixing flax oil with the pigment and applying on the floor). On top of that, the corners of the room are now fading to a lighter colour. I wanted to know if by using acid stain I'd be able to get an even colour in the whole room or if it would react differently according to the base colour. Else, would you suggest an epoxy coat? Thanks a lot !!
@MONG...
@MONG... 11 ай бұрын
How do you hide repairs before staining?
@RenzoGracieSA
@RenzoGracieSA 6 күн бұрын
There was Behr concrete stain put on indoor floor. Essentially paint. Could we stain over that? Or would we have to sand it off?
@marcnewkirk4856
@marcnewkirk4856 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: when pouring from the can, have the spot at the top. Less gurgling and splashing. Works with antifreeze as well. Even though you won’t head this far north to Southern MD. 😆😆😆 I still enjoy the videos.
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Haha. Thank you!
@StaticGamer
@StaticGamer 7 ай бұрын
Have you ever used cem-coat by brickform stain?
@matthewmorgan8913
@matthewmorgan8913 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos 👍. What's the brand of the red sprayer please?
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sprayer: amzn.to/3FwbK6M
@isabelamarie5004
@isabelamarie5004 Жыл бұрын
Why the cracks not fix?
@jorgecantu1000
@jorgecantu1000 Жыл бұрын
how do i clean it thoo theres food steps every were
@ocdptony7363
@ocdptony7363 Жыл бұрын
Good Work, I do the same in California. I can tell you save time and arm pump, there are nice constant pressure backpack pumps they work great, and they hold up to 4 gallons.
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I actually just got a sprayer than you can fill up with a compressor. It's a huge upgrade. Ha.
@abettertomorow3258
@abettertomorow3258 Жыл бұрын
NICE!
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GuidosDad
@GuidosDad 2 ай бұрын
How are u able to spray Acetone through a pump sprayer without melting the o-rings etc ? Thx great video
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! We use a sprayer than can handle solvents. It looks like a cheap sprayer from Home Depot but it’s actually made for acetone. There are a few different brands. Just search “acetone sprayer”. 👍🏻👍🏻
@GuidosDad
@GuidosDad 2 ай бұрын
Did not that. Thank u for ur time! 👋🏻
@GuidosDad
@GuidosDad 2 ай бұрын
Did not that. Thank u for ur time! 👋🏻
@girliedog
@girliedog Жыл бұрын
I don't seem to be able to find the links to the products you use. Thank you for an excellent video.
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Acid stains are pretty generic. You just need to find someone that sells it near you. The sealer was a solvent based acrylic. We cover specific brands we like in our stained concrete course. You can check it out here if you’d like: decorativeconcreteschool.teachable.com
@user-zq9yl6up3r
@user-zq9yl6up3r 11 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t you just use the acetone dye w/o the acetone d staining?
@charleskahl4494
@charleskahl4494 Жыл бұрын
tape off the wall stone so the edges r straight and crisp. use duct tape and remove when dry. it works and is a better looking job.
@victorvargas5342
@victorvargas5342 Жыл бұрын
How much acetone you add to the product?
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
One gallon per bottle of dye.
@victorvargas5342
@victorvargas5342 Жыл бұрын
@@TimDCVA Thx
@MurderMassacre
@MurderMassacre 2 жыл бұрын
Newly subbed! Tik tok brought me here.. Great content 👍
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks! 🙌🏼
@codyhoward3254
@codyhoward3254 Жыл бұрын
Whatd you quote them for this job
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
I don’t like to talk about specific pricing on KZfaq… but stained concrete can be anywhere from $3-$5 per foot. DM me on IG if you want to talk about it. @timdcva
@rocksteady6448
@rocksteady6448 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't twinkle my toes for $3 a foot to go and do any type of staining
@glengarbera7367
@glengarbera7367 Жыл бұрын
Much better job with the dye
@colt.38super70
@colt.38super70 4 ай бұрын
What happens when the acid stain doesn’t react to the concrete or stain it? What you do at that point?
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 13 күн бұрын
Use a different modality of stain such as acetone or water based stain
@ceedee8953
@ceedee8953 Жыл бұрын
15 years ago I honed my concrete, used wood stain then sealed it. It looks perfect to this day.
@mfmr200
@mfmr200 Жыл бұрын
wood stain can be used on concrete? how?
@rosskstar
@rosskstar 10 ай бұрын
honed?
@redaamine1070
@redaamine1070 Жыл бұрын
I work in the field of epoxy floor paint
@rocksteady6448
@rocksteady6448 Жыл бұрын
You can keep that acid stain nothing but a pain to work with every substrate is different it depends on the pour of the concrete so many challenges when doing acid stain and when you have to rinse and neutralize you doing nothing but put moisture in the concrete
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Haha. 👍🏻👍🏻
@hawkmoonism
@hawkmoonism Жыл бұрын
Would you know how to remove the acid stain??
@ShellSnell
@ShellSnell 2 ай бұрын
It almost looks like either the color selected was the issue, or the yield was too high. 1 gallon of decent stuff can do about 400 sq ft to my knowledge. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA 2 ай бұрын
You are correct. It just didn’t react with the old concrete very well though. It looked really nice on the new concrete around some of the piers.
@hawkmoonism
@hawkmoonism Жыл бұрын
How would you remove this acid wash??? Anyone?
@samporter5258
@samporter5258 Жыл бұрын
you would have to grind the concrete below its penetration level, usually about an 1/8"
@Lyfehurts66
@Lyfehurts66 11 ай бұрын
Why did you have to neutralize the first stain but not the second one..
@mikaylastrong7622
@mikaylastrong7622 4 ай бұрын
The first stain is acid based. The second was acetone based.
@davidfishferrell
@davidfishferrell Жыл бұрын
My wife is wanting to do our house that we are remodeling but I don’t have a clue how to. It also has tile down now 🤦‍♂️
@DapperSurfacesLLCRochester
@DapperSurfacesLLCRochester Жыл бұрын
Your not going to like the way it looks if it has tile on it now unless you do an overlay
@davidfishferrell
@davidfishferrell Жыл бұрын
@@DapperSurfacesLLCRochester I’m definitely going to have pour the lever on it
@samporter5258
@samporter5258 Жыл бұрын
The mortar lines will show unless you apply a concrete topper or have the entire surface ground down.
@toddalan333
@toddalan333 4 ай бұрын
The metallic salts in the acid stain need to react with the hydrated lime in the concrete. Your slab had seen better days when it had the top layer, or paste that carries the hydrated lime. That is why your client liked the new concrete, not the old. A water based stain would have produced a better application. Acids stains as well as dyes, or water based stains are never similar to chip boards, or manufactures samples unless you have a decent concrete slab, or a overlayment that is white, or gray. Concrete also varies in density which will also affect the outcome. Acid stains are a chemical reaction which showcase variances for that particular reason, where as water based stains are topical acrylics that requires artistic application to showcase variances, and dyes are typical for detailing designs that require caution when being applied, especially indoors. Acetone dyes evap quickly and for any project can get very expensive. Fix the cracks.
@hulkhuggett
@hulkhuggett 7 сағат бұрын
How would ypu fix the cracks if acid staining?
@twincanons
@twincanons Жыл бұрын
do you have a course or one on one on some marketing and finding customers strategies? Id gladly buy all my supplies from a distributor willing to offer some advise , when Im starting out without a huge marketing budget,
@jchzzeemp594
@jchzzeemp594 8 ай бұрын
You didn't use enough. Soak that concrete. I didn't dilute mine either. It was my first time and it turned out awesome. I could see it turn colors in 20 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky but it was easier then doing other flooring.
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 13 күн бұрын
You used the acid straight out of the container?
@cloudage2956
@cloudage2956 Жыл бұрын
Summary: Dye (unevenly applied, intentionally) compensates for the underwhelming effect of the acid stain.
@StacyForest738
@StacyForest738 11 ай бұрын
That's not what I got out of it. I understood it to be old concrete has less surface aggregate and more cracks, therefore it stains unpredictably and holds the stain less.
@jeffhunter1855
@jeffhunter1855 Жыл бұрын
that's some serious dookie man, and boy that acetone smells good ! (and that musical accompaniment sounds forboding).
@jasonfindlay8864
@jasonfindlay8864 3 ай бұрын
Come on thats basic 101 with acid stains and alkalinity in old concrete .. this is why I use water based for the past 15 years
@suspicionofdeceit
@suspicionofdeceit 13 күн бұрын
How long does water based last?
@txsuzyq5655
@txsuzyq5655 Жыл бұрын
why do you both not need a mask while you are doing this....dangerous fumes or not?
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your concern. Yes you should always wear a respirator. Sometimes we bend the rules if we are working outside on a hot and windy day and you can’t smell the fumes.
@sonnyechols5140
@sonnyechols5140 Жыл бұрын
Fumes and it smells like rotten eggs
@dinoz85
@dinoz85 2 ай бұрын
fill the cracks mate!!!! looks half done
@SnakePlissken23
@SnakePlissken23 Жыл бұрын
#1 Amateur problem. That entire pad needed be power sanded or grinded or a bare minimum, etched. #2 Amateur problem. Not doing a small test spot.
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t ever acid etch before using an acid stain. We didn’t want to grind the texture off of the pad since it’s an exterior project.
@benrobertson9931
@benrobertson9931 Жыл бұрын
Wow It’s really a gamble when you use “hope” early in the project You do excellent work Don’t you love when a customer has a major event in 3 days and the owner doesn’t really know
@jamesofallthings3684
@jamesofallthings3684 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people wouldn't go the extra step to try and get it closer. The customer was told the potential issues, so it's not their problem. Hopefully they appreciate it.
@chingonbass
@chingonbass Жыл бұрын
why not fix the cracks?
@TimDCVA
@TimDCVA Жыл бұрын
This is a semi transparent system. You can’t patch them without it looking like a patch. On a stained concrete job it’s better to just leave them exposed.
@benrobertson9931
@benrobertson9931 Жыл бұрын
Damn glad the owner wasn’t a woman while you’re dealing with colors!
@redaamine1070
@redaamine1070 Жыл бұрын
I work in the field of epoxy floor paint
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