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@markjordan17652 жыл бұрын
I used this Gardz for 25 years I have never had a problem with it. All my guys love it. Am going on 38 years in my painting company. After we put it on and it dries we lightly sand the area and mud over it. We put a fan on it and in two hours we are good to go.
@mjmason7525 күн бұрын
Same here. Gardz has worked great for us. We do get an occasionally bubble that we need to cut out, but that's not the fault of the Gardz product. Gardz works great for it's intended purpose, but it's not a fix all over everything. When a bubble area gets wet, it can stretch and bubble out, and Gardz can't always fix that.
@markjordan176525 күн бұрын
@@mjmason75 100 percent true. Semper Fi brother.
@johnhastings18743 жыл бұрын
I use the shellac primer. Can't stand the smell, but it has never once failed me. Thanks again for the great content.
@paulhouchen90103 жыл бұрын
Smells like vodca to me! It is the best for water stains
@notimportant36863 жыл бұрын
that stuff is poison though... i have no doubt that when i get lung or stomach cancer in 10 or 20 years, that shit will be half responsible for it
@ttoteno3 жыл бұрын
@@notimportant3686 wear a mask!
@nickel0eye3 жыл бұрын
gardz is pretty bad too! Get's my eyes watery in a way bin doesn't!
@asaintinwaiting3 жыл бұрын
BIN... white pigmented shellac... I used it for repairs on plaster walls in my house before painting when we first moved in 32+ years ago, and it has NOT failed to hold up.
@craigkovatch75643 жыл бұрын
I recently used this stuff to seal up some bare gypsum before first coat and was very happy with the results. I put it on pretty thick (like a coat and half actually) and let it cure for a whole day, then used 90 minute mud on top. It was my first significant drywall repair after watching SO MANY of your videos and I couldn't be happier with how it turned out. Although I totally had a can of the shellac product you recommended handy just in case!
@mikeism1 Жыл бұрын
Shellac is perfect to hold back water stains, but Gardz is the ticket to make a sound surface to your substrate. 40 + years Finishing and painting. I give Gardz a thumbs up, as it does what its supposed to do. Dont be shy with it.
@mrrepurpose95963 жыл бұрын
I envy your ability to read that tiny print on the can without eyeglasses.
@aaron743 жыл бұрын
Not only tiny print, but they use a condensed font, too! I don't wear glasses (yet), but I am having a harder time reading small print. What I will do is take a pic of it with my cell phone and then pinch-zoom the picture to blow it up.
@bruceanderson77623 жыл бұрын
Ahaha, yeah.
@hh05202 жыл бұрын
i was just thinking that…too funny
@Zeus-dw1cx5 ай бұрын
Isn't Youth wonderful 😊
@gotta-date-with-hateАй бұрын
I go to home depot website and download PDF. Otherwise I cant see
@PJ-ku5lp3 жыл бұрын
You don't know how good it feels to see those bubbles coming through at 6:05... It's not just meeeeeee!!!!!!
@xiSWIIFTix3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@gregwertheim39702 жыл бұрын
I’ve used Gardz and love it. Not so much for torn drywall paper but to seal thin coats of compound as in a skim coat. I’ve had nothing but issues with delaminating when laying down the first coat of primer. Ever since I’ve started using Gardz the delaminating has been eliminated.
@edover503 жыл бұрын
I too use the shellac based primer, my jobs are mostly small repairs and I find the spray can easy to have on hand, dries quicker and I never have a problem
@susanfrombflo83683 жыл бұрын
I also use a spray shellac; of course, this was after watching Ben's video on nail pop repair. I only had the spray stuff on hand instead of the roll-on, but it's all good a year later. Now, only 7 ceilings left!
@trainliker1003 жыл бұрын
I went to the hardware store to get a can of shellac based primer and they were out of it. All they had was a spray can. My repair was pretty small, so it worked out better.
@JT_703 жыл бұрын
The spray works well but gets overspray on everything when I use it.
@trainliker1003 жыл бұрын
@@JT_70 I use a piece of cardboard or two to shield things. If I need more protection, I tape up some paper or plastic sheet.
@Cindy25Cox3 жыл бұрын
Never used GUARDZ, only use Zin's Shellac primer because I learned it from you three months ago when I first began watching your videos which were prompted by my first home project. Had a lot of moments of frustration on that project but now I am honing mu skills. Working on hallway and bedroom. Ben your videos are super helpful. Thank you!
@retired81232 ай бұрын
I just did badly torn drywall on 2 walls with gardz.. Worked good everywhere except 2 spots 6 inches round on 1 wall and 1 12 inch spot on the other.Cleaned them up and used the shellac VC recommended and it worked even better. Thank goodness i watch this channel or I would be scratching my head for answers to fix these frustrating walls
@mitchellpurelife3 жыл бұрын
I am a life long drywaller, and have been doing NC, remolding and repairs over the yrs. Gaurds has blistered on me, but I found that a LIGHT coat plus 3 hrs drying time usually works. Don't coat heavy and don't back roll over it, that's when it fails. Roman's rx35 seems better. However since way back when, a coat of good ol oil based kilz has been the most consistent quick fix. And yes I agree with shellac also, if you don't mind the buzz.
@deaneng8540 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip. Regarding Shellac are you talking about Zinssor Bin Shellac? I've used a lot of that lately and haven't noticed any odor-causing buzz? Maybe my brain cells are dead and don't notice it anymore! 😂
@funanimal43 жыл бұрын
Ah, love the Zinsser BIN shellac-based! Spray or brush-works great!
@jeffthewhiff3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is what I use for my business and it hasn't failed me yet!
@Sony726042 жыл бұрын
Hard to breathe with that stuff. It works great for sealing cigarette smoke in.
@Terry8084t3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you did this video. I have had very bad experiences with Gardz, and I’m happy to know it wasn’t just my poor application. I have waited more than 48 hours for Gardz to dry a couple of times, and it’s still bubbled up on me.
@thehonestman263 ай бұрын
Well I'm a little late on half of the process. I cut everything out and then used Gardz. I actually drove farther to get the Gardz as they only had the shellac around here. It's been a day, and I was just about to fill with quickset but wasn't going to use tape. So you probably saved me there. Thanks for your videos, knowledge, and time.
@youtrades3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I squirmed when you were putting it on, but I had faith you knew what you were doing and it would turn out great!😜 I haven't had the best of luck with anything other than BIN, so that's what I always use too. I keep a pint and disposable brushes in the truck. Geez, you make those patches look so good so quick!!😁
@dartagnantaft59183 жыл бұрын
I've just recently discovered your channel. I very much appreciate the information your sharing.
@screaminpotato3 жыл бұрын
You should have watched the Kilted Guy Drywall on how to over drywall paper. He’s actually complimented you before in his videos!
@jasonohara83723 жыл бұрын
I've been slowly renovating a 110 year old row home. The walls between the houses are plaster over masonry. The rest are lath and plaster. After removing the wallpaper, I soaked the remaining paper backing and glue with hot water and removed it with a scraper. I then used a 1/4" roller to roll on a somewhat thin coat of Gardz on the walls to seal the plaster a whatever glue residue remained. I waited at least a full day or two before skim coating with all purpose (The wait time wasn't intentional; just how it worked out). I had zero issues with it and I noticed before skimming that it looked like it created a hard shell. I have not used it on drywall yet. I originally wanted to use a shellac primer but this was in Dec/Jan and I obviously couldn't open windows for ventilation, so I opted for the Gardz.
@justinbrison1123 жыл бұрын
Glad you told me to feather that like button. I have a habit on forgetting too 😀
@tykellerman63843 жыл бұрын
In the old days😂we used to thin shellac on problem spots it is compatible with many different top coats even between lacquer and urethane just about anything your not sure of. .. great video Ben 🤠👍
@heystarfish1003 жыл бұрын
I’ve used Gardz successfully for many projects without any problems. I remove the whole blistered paper from the beginning though. When you read the label the product it sounds like it’s just Titebond 2 wood glue reduced with water. I let it dry for 2 hours and I’m ready to paint. I buy Gardz by the quart for repairs. I’m a DIY and have used 5 qts so far.
@Dom-sm2ty3 жыл бұрын
"Shellac is a resin secreted by the female lac bug on trees in the forests of India and Thailand." - From wikipedia. It's amazing that one of the best painting/drywall products is naturally created, and by bugs no less. It's another story about the solvents that are used to dissolve it so we can apply it.
@danervin25303 жыл бұрын
Lol same goes for rubber. And somehow they become car tires...
@jeffreylonigro13823 жыл бұрын
Solvent is alcohol. It’s relatively benign.
@jkm32973 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylonigro1382 There's all kinds of solvents. Butane and it's cousins have other stuff besides alcohol in them. Pentane being one I think that's pretty nasty
@edwardvermillion88073 жыл бұрын
everclear... the drinking stuff... well, if you're still in college, the drinking stuff.
@MichaelMantion3 жыл бұрын
there are synthetic products that people call shellac. But I agree shellac is a neat product.
@rossr1002 жыл бұрын
I use the Zinsser shellac based Bin sealer before mud gets near any drywall repairs, have never had a problem with bubbling. The water based products seldom live up to the claims on the can sadly. Great channel, thanks for all the tips! From NZ
@bored2infinity3 жыл бұрын
I see that this posted in May. In April, I finished using Gardz on a guest bath renovation where wallpaper removal (with steamer!) had damaged the drywall paper all over the place. I used Gardz and skim coated all four walls to repair as described in other videos. No trouble. Worked as designed. More than one coat was used given the damage before first skim coat was applied. Maybe I was just lucky, but it did its job well in my use. I am merely a DIY homeowner who educates himself as well as possible with tons of research here on youtube before I try something. I will share that I had to order the gallon of Gardz off of Amazon because the big-box stores did not carry it, and neither did the one brand-name paint store that I called. So maybe that is a significant data point. I also found that the odor from Gardz irritated my nasal passages despite open window in the bathroom. The room volume of the guest bath is pretty small and may have been a contributing factor.
@vanislandsurf3 жыл бұрын
The Zinnsers shellac (dont know about Gardz) is expensive but amazing. I sealed a stained wood t&g ceiling so the stains and tanins don't bleed through my white paint. Worked like a charm.
@vanilla503 жыл бұрын
We always use Gardz after removing wallpaper, locking down damaged or missing drywall paper, eliminating different suction rates of muds before decorative finishes painting or applying American Clay & never had your problem. Shellac is an organic product from insects & subject to decay (mold food) in humid environments. On occasion we have used SW “fast dry primer” that does not use a slow dry mineral spirit vehicle in place of Gardz, but prefer Gardz.
@49er162 жыл бұрын
The Zinsser Shellac is not insect based anymore
@vanilla502 жыл бұрын
@@49er16 Zinsser Shellac & Traditional Zinsser Bin Primer are now & always have been natural lac in alcohol. The newer Zinsser synthetic Bin primer does not have natural lac product.
@handytbutler73802 жыл бұрын
I have done a ton of wallpaper removal where there has been torn paper on drywall and to be completely honest the easiest way i have ever fixed it was to paint it with a coat of semi gloss paint , whatever i had on hand then if there were any bubbles cut them out , recoat and when its dry skim coat it with joint compound and move on to the painting process. I painted for a company for 8 years and we worked in alot of top notch holmes and our paint jobs were top notch as well. We were highly sought after as painters , so there are ways around that are less expensive.... Love your channel though, showing me alot of different techniques that i didnt know on drywall. Thanks again from the yankee in new york lol....
@feasterfamine8365 ай бұрын
I have used lots of Gardz, always had trouble with bubbles. Thanks for the product recommendation!
@AtlasReburdened3 жыл бұрын
How I would have handled it? Simple, I'd curse and yell at the wall for the required minimum of 10 seconds, stare at it in an aggravated manner for about 30 seconds while deluding myself into thinking that I knew enough about the problem to ad hoc a solution, then search the Vancouver Carpenter channel for the answer.
@rullywow38343 жыл бұрын
I really like the green can RX-35. Goes on milky, dries clear and works awesome for torn paper. If you can get it in Canada it would be great to see your thoughts on it. Great vids! Keep up the good work.
@Proman642 Жыл бұрын
I have been using Gardz to seal areas where I have used a lot of mud. I find that it keeps the dry mud from sucking up so much primer and paint that you have to do extra coats. I haven't had any bubbling problems over torn paper but perhaps it is because after putting down the skim coat I put on another coating of Gardz.
@catcolbert90442 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that I saw this video because I was searching for that Gardz to use on a drywall repair. Luckily HD did not have any. I have learned so much from you about working with drywall. Thanks for all you share.
@krujohnschwartz3 жыл бұрын
I used Gardz a few years ago after removing wall paper and scraping the glue down to seal before paint. It has been a few years and no spiderweb cracking in the topcoat yet!
@Joe-pj6mm2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to skim with mud at all? Or were you able to get it smooth after applying Gardz and sanding?
@avisitorhere Жыл бұрын
Yes, shellac is the best product to use. Second on my list would be oil based primer like Kilz Original, which of course is not original because they've changed the formula so many times due to VOC laws. Still good stuff though.
@CoolSteve773 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that GARDZ did not sponsor this video... 😂
@Progorama3 жыл бұрын
GARDZ ceo created a youtube account just to downvote
@-agent-47-733 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Darisiabgal75733 жыл бұрын
But it’s got a good name, lol. I’m not a pro at all with drywall. I put that fiberglass tape, if it’s a bad area ( deep) I will use a couple, three layers, and 20 min easy sand. Let it dry fast. Then the next day level it out . Those fibertapes will make the DWC hard as a rock and the 20 min will set it fast. Last night I did an area 6” x 6” with brown paper. No bubbling.
@stroys70613 жыл бұрын
Good guess! 😂
@ttoteno3 жыл бұрын
Zinsser BIN is by far the best primer/sealer. Used it to seal cigarette smell, water stains, and even knotty pine siding. Always works!
@borys4443 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Moore has a product called stix which is far superior. It is 3x the cost though but I can guarantee u that stix will blow any other primer/sealer out of the water that is out on the market now.
@rampanttricky17 Жыл бұрын
thank you for showing what the blistering looks like. i (just a HOMEOWNER) have not done enough work on sufficiently damaged drywall to have seen them myself yet. But i have a current job for which i am looking for your type of advice! I figured looking for advice beforehand might be better than looking at how to fix my "fix".
@travisk55893 жыл бұрын
I was 2 mins into the video and i was going to suggest shellac based. I love the stuff. Works great for priming stained oak cabinets. The smell doesn't bother me and i am very sensitive to smells. The 3m 8577 is my go to for organic vapor
@Hengry-hn7rb2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud I will be looking into that
@deaneng8540 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it! I used it on stained wood trim on a client's house and works great! Dries fast so recoating can be done more quickly than a final coat of the finished paint. It took me about 2 coats though to prevent any bleed-through.
@aaron743 жыл бұрын
I've used Gardz and never had a problem. But my DIY drywalling spans days and weeks, not hours... I've applied the Gardz and did the mudding over it the next day. It makes the brown torn paper facing of the drywall a little rough and locks down all the paper fibers so the paper doesn't swell and create blisters under the coating. I like it. But if you have a shellac method that works just as well or better in much less time, I would definitely switch to that. Make a video!
@sidneyroussell6563 жыл бұрын
I sand the area with a fine sanding sponge using light pressure. It rolls up the layers of paper that tear off at the edge. Followed up by oil-based primer. I have few problems in my later stages and seldom have to go back to correct the area.
@NativeNYerChicHK3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used this plenty of times and never had that happen. Maybe try not loading it on all at once, it doesn’t make sense that you’re soaking the damage areas and not expecting to have problems. You’re using this stuff specifically in trying to avoid those damaged area getting that wet!! That amount of liquid of course will adversely effect the spots you’re trying to fix - it even says so on the can!!! I apply this in 3 light layers and it’s really awesome stuff!!! Will only use Gardz for my damaged drywall!!!
@landonm113 жыл бұрын
I use oil based Kilz for all my torn paper repairs. Never had a blister come up
@NuttedInYoMom3 жыл бұрын
Is the spray can stuff good, and do you use it often ? I've installed some sheets of drywall and torn a bit of paper here in there, so id like to do it right the first time. Any help would be much appreciated!
@landonm113 жыл бұрын
@@NuttedInYoMom yes, I use it on every job. Remodel/new construction/ patch jobs. Works great IMHO and dries fast. Strong smell but results are worth it.
@landonm113 жыл бұрын
@@NuttedInYoMom hey man, sorry forgot to add... I have used the spray can stuff on cabinets with DARK glossy finishes(after proper prep)... but never drywall. I always use the pint cans and a cheap bristle brush... I use the cheap ones because it’s oil based and it’s to much of a hassle to clean. Don’t use a good paint brush! Not worth it!
@malcolmthompson98483 жыл бұрын
I've used Gradz for years w/o problems. I've also used the shellac primer for other issue such as stabilizing popcorn texture before painting. The Grardz penetrants deeper than the shellac which flashes over too quickly. Shellac is also becoming very expensive due to a shortage of shellac beetles.
@f.demascio18573 жыл бұрын
Shellac beetles? I gotta research that!
@TobiasRaphael13 жыл бұрын
I don't recall having these issues with Gardz, having used it for many years. The only thing I don't like about it is the three hour cure time... too much for smaller jobs. I have had issues like this with the B.I.N shellac, so just the opposite of you Ben. Zinnser came out with a synthetic shellac, which seems to work on a lot of this kind of stuff and is ready to topcoat in 45min -1 hour. It is my 'go to' primer now. Thanks for the info though... Zinnser will have to look into it and remedy it now that the word is out from Vancouver Carpenter!
@enigmaticx3263 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used the shellac based BIN. Easier to apply and dries fast
@HotspotsSoutheast3 жыл бұрын
Doing things the hard way is usually easier than doing it the easy way. Something always goes wrong when you try to do it the easy way and you waste more time than if you just did it the right way first.
@deckmonkey14593 жыл бұрын
I'm so lazy you can barely get me to do it once. If I have to go back and do it again it's probably not going to happen. That's why guys always make fun of me for overcleaning fittings and pipes before I solder to make sure I don't have to redo it.
@huejanus55053 жыл бұрын
I only use the white-pigmented shellac for repairs like that and on plaster walls. Usually slap on a second coat after 5 or ten minutes whether i’m spraying, brushing or rolling. A few minutes after the first coat, any loose paper edges tend to stand up. Just flatten them with your finger and they’ll stay stuck down.
@mckentycarpentry46653 жыл бұрын
I hate farting about! Your videos have helped me immensely, Thank you!
@cheneypinata3 жыл бұрын
I use the shellac primer. Smells like Captain Morgan and works like a charm 👍
@-agent-47-733 жыл бұрын
Captain Morgan....🤣🤣🤣.... hopefully you're talking about booze...😉🥃
@neverenoughtime31513 жыл бұрын
It's great to have this kind of feedback! I always used oil-based Kilz or shellac and was considering trying GARDZ... I guess I'll stick with what I've been using.
@squigglyphrank93483 жыл бұрын
Yea kilz is potent stuff but will stick to anything
@NuttedInYoMom3 жыл бұрын
Is the Kilz oil based Spray can stuff good, and do you use it often ? I've installed some sheets of drywall and torn a bit of paper here in there, so id like to do it right the first time. Any help would be much appreciated!
@neverenoughtime31513 жыл бұрын
@@NuttedInYoMom Yes, I've used the "spray bomb" Kilz (usually the "original", not low odor) with good results. It might take two hits... remove your torn paper, hit the area with primer, let it dry, then come back and do any further sanding/ paper removal that may be needed, then re-hit w/ primer. Just make sure you have a good sealing coat on the area before you start hitting w/ joint compound. That way you should avoid the problems Ben was showing (bubbling paper, caused by the moisture of the GARDZ and/ or joint compound). BTW, Zinsser BIN is available in spray bomb also, though I've usually stuck with Kilz out of habit (and cost).
@F-Bomb3133 жыл бұрын
Even when we use shellac to seal torn paper, I find myself doing the following steps: 1. Scrape, sand, and peel off any loose paper 2. Shellac area 3. Scrape, sand, and cut out any air pockets from paper letting loose 4. Shellac area 5. bed coat with quickset 6. Look for any air pockets in paper, cut out and spot as needed with quickset 7. spot all cut out areas again with quickset (along with any problem areas that may need straightening out) 8. Finish coat with regular mud 9. Sand and pray, you still may need to cut out and repair some areas
@joshk1992 жыл бұрын
Same here. I love guards, use it on dozens of jobs with bad wallpaper removal.
@richardburguillos31183 жыл бұрын
Yup when in a hurry I just use the spray can of the shellack primer. No brushes to clean or throw away etc etc... Even good on the Like Button 👍 to make sure it doesn’t bubble off.
@briancranwell96503 жыл бұрын
I used the Roman pro999 stuff, which is suppose to be similar to Gardz. I applied two coats to some badly damaged drywall and it held up ok, I tested two small walls and was getting blistering everywhere, so made the decision to Shellac primer everything, and thank god I did. Stuff is amazing, zero bubbles and the joint compound adhered great. Will always use Shellac from no on.
@leslieenos45102 жыл бұрын
Thanks for info. It was recommended by another KZfaqr, but I couldn't find it anywhere so I started to use other options. I think I will go with what you did. Thanks for the heads up!
@nancykorpics65373 жыл бұрын
Oil based spray primer works very well in this situation , I have used this for years. I have worked in commercial construction for years doing fit- outs. In these types of jobs the damage caused by cove base removal leaves paper damage.I spray these areas, allow drying time and finish. Works every time.
@jim-cu9yp3 жыл бұрын
I hire a pro like you ,job done!
@conradcoolerfiend3 жыл бұрын
water based is garbageeee. oil is superior. and shellac is the rolls royce.
@markchristman10763 жыл бұрын
I have used it extensively over torn drywall, leftover wallpaper residue, as a bonding agent over plaster instead of plaster weld. Never had a problem in 25 years. It has to reach the torn paper to secure it. You could have spot primed those areas put a hair dryer on them, coat in 5 minutes. Not sure whats happening with you.
@sl53112 жыл бұрын
It ruined my glasses. It gets everywhere. It is a nightmare. Glad someone is saying this. You make the feathering look easy. haha
@RC_Cola20203 жыл бұрын
I just finished my can of gardz. It was really helpful for fixing torn paper after baseboard removal and other problem areas. Never has problems. But I used it sparingly.
@southbendkid3 жыл бұрын
I use tons of BIN. Besides drywall patches and wood priming I prime all raw drywall. It makes all the little fuzzies from sanded drywall paper stand up. a quick swipe with sandpaper shaves them off. BIN really evens the texture between paper and mud. It's also a class II vapor barrier, (required when unfaced insulation is used.)
@grahambrown58743 жыл бұрын
I buy the 5L container of PVA glue. I dilute it with a small amount of water so it is absorbed in to the surface of the drywall and forms a strong bond. When dry I apply the the skim coat. It's inexpensive and goes a long way. How long ot takes to dry depends on the temperature of the room and how much you put on, but usually a hour will do.
@flagmichael Жыл бұрын
My own preference as a limited experience DIYer: bite the bullet and replace the damaged portions of the drywall to the middle of the studs. I learned a couple of years ago that largish repairs are easier than smallish ones. Obviously, if it is just a spot your approach is perfect. I also think if I were more experienced I would follow your lead. Of course, with your situation where virtually all the drywall areas were damaged at the top and bottom your approach is a lot less labor intensive. Anyway, there was a discussion on That Kilted Guy about brown paper defects, and shellac rated high in everything except the fumes while drying... especially the fire hazard if the area was substantial. Depending on ventilation he could favor primer. Finally, yesterday I was installing a thermostat - easy, right? - and encountered poor repairs even in that little project. In the end, the drywall (at the end of the hall where it probably took impacts from children) was a nightmare of inch-sized holes that were filled with blobs of spackle and slightly mudded over so it was a relief to replace the 3x3 foot area affected. Made it a lot easier to fish the wire in, too!
@FranconiaFriend3 жыл бұрын
I had to scrape a ceiling in a small (~9'x9') room down to the brown paper. Gave it a couple of coats of Gardz. Let it dry > 24 hours and then skim coated it (thanks for those vids) with premixed mud (dark and light green pails). My skim coating is not great, but never saw any bubbling. Now I am getting ready to skim coat my first wall section (~2.5'x8'). Was a bit hesitant to try Gardz again based on this vid, but it is on now - brown paper is sealed. Will skim coat in a while and see how it goes.
@jasonrangerman43703 жыл бұрын
Oil based primer for damaged drywall. It prevents the moisture from the mud causing all kinds of havoc. If I didnt have oil based primer and still needed to get the job done I would just carve out all the brown paper spots until they are the white inner layer of the drywall. That brown paper layer is just too thin when its damaged like that. The smallest amount of moisture can bubble it.
@petekenyon94424 ай бұрын
Same company peel stop or sure bond. Also love the fast prime 2 and use it for glue in the mudd for tapping to existing. But I've learned many and much from Ben.
@Ellipsis-1013 ай бұрын
Ur expectations are exceeding ur level of experience as far as fine tuning and existential times you’ve used it. It’s an awesome product, but nothing will always be perfect in this world 👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼
@nadinelinda6273 жыл бұрын
Use the guartz all the time. Not seeing the issues you've had. But it does have a shine to it. Especially if I'm not mudding over it. For instance a small area needed the guartz and I put it on a few inches past were mud would cover it. Takes 2 to 3 coats of primer or 2 coats of paint to keep the shiny area covered.
@HandymanTim3 жыл бұрын
That shine is the sealant that provides the moisture barrier.
@janerikborge3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was doing something wrong. Had the exact problem as you. Thank you.
@shawnmoore42923 жыл бұрын
I like the fails as much as the successes. Thanks for sharing these little gems.
@dazzhan98263 жыл бұрын
I had torn drywall paper in my bathroom after removing the vanity and medicine cabinet. Did some reviews on Google and KZfaq as to what the best sealer would be. Upon some KZfaq recommendations and website product info, I decided on Kilz PVA drywall primer. The outside of the pale states it will seal porous surfaces...BAD choice ! After using it on the torn paper it caused nothing but blistering, even after waiting 24 hrs between 2 coats. Now there's 4 1/2 gallons gathering dust in my garage... After grabbing a gallon of Gardz from Home Depot the results have been much better. No blistering as yet (cross fingers). I do put 2 coats on and wait 24 hrs between coats just to be sure it's dry. I also picked up a Shellac based product which works great, but of course there is the smell component.
@ivorputnam59582 жыл бұрын
I used this product. It was terrific !
@WallDoc3 жыл бұрын
I have good luck with GardZ after I figured out what it can't do. The key I found is that you still have to remove any detached layers of paper beforehand. If you expect this product to "glue" the layers back together, it doesn't. What it does is prevents bubbling of the solid torn drywall paper. Plus you do have to wait 24 hours. For small projects, I just keep a couple spray cans of oil-based primer.
@Elizarge3 жыл бұрын
I love Roman PRO- 999 RX- 35. I skim coated over old wall board.
@petergrupp59873 жыл бұрын
Yes me too, $20 a gallon at home depot. Use it all the time. Way cheaper than shellac and doesn't evaporate either.
@roypaulcarter46542 жыл бұрын
I use BIN during the preparation before I put any mud on the wall but I am not a contractor and can let it dry for a few days before I get back to the area I used it on and I have never had a problem with it.
@ricosrealm11 ай бұрын
Kilz Klear works great as a sealer and alternative to Gardz. It doesn't drip, dries fast and rigid.
@petepete22843 жыл бұрын
I only use it for small water stains. Thats it. It deters the stain from bleeding through.
@fahmywaleed3 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem. I did carve the blistered parts painted it one more time with zinser then coated with mud. Didnt get any bisters after but agree having to carve all the bad spots was a pain. But i am diy so i had enough time
@roncerosky62583 жыл бұрын
I agree it still allows too much bubbling of loose paper. Prefer oil primer.
@digiscrappin2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find Guardz when I went to buy some, so I bought the shellac based kind. I feel much better now about my choice. I'm coating all my walls and ceiling before painting or wallpapering and I feel good that the wallpaper won't damage the sheetrock.
@danielroble4743 жыл бұрын
I use kills oil base primer and that work out for me
@ryanm663814 ай бұрын
It works fine, you have to rip the loose paper bubbles off first. It isn't designed to re-laminate existing bubbles.
@Supra_Na962 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I love this stuff! I used this to put over old wallpaper glue paste I was just completely over removing. It worked great! I found out the hard way a little goes a LONNNG way
@andybortel85495 ай бұрын
I use exclusively. Sand the big pieces off soak it work it in put a fan on it an hour and coat.
@HotspotsSoutheast3 жыл бұрын
I like your glue solution too for holding down torn paper. I haven't tried it yet though. I had one bit of torn paper come up after I mudded it and had to cut more out but the second time it stayed down.
@wildnorthadventures65433 жыл бұрын
MH Ready Patch . Solvent based . Dries fast . Super hard . Painting homes for 23 years. This is what I use for 99.9% of all patching needs .
@Ultegra10SPD3 жыл бұрын
It was because of you I found the shellac stuff and many repair between the last two houses was far less painful and quicker because of it thanks. -U10
@dukecraig24022 жыл бұрын
You can also use that spray shellac to coat unpaintable silicone that sometimes someone has used that didn't understand that it can't be painted over and causes you headaches down the road, just coat it with shellac and then you can paint right over it no problems.
@richardspees8413 жыл бұрын
The BIN 123 shellac-based primer I've seen you use, and I've used is a great product and I've never had any complaints with and have used it a lot on remodeling our home. Never tried Gardz and don't think I will after this. Seems it makes more work. I hate having to do rework like what you had to do.
@TheAdamFinch3 жыл бұрын
i have used gardz on many jobs in bathrooms and kitchens doing repairs and have never had an issue like you experienced. I usually put one coat of gardz on, let it dry for an a little till its tacky and then do another heavy coat, let it dry for a day and then coat it.
@MarkNOTW3 жыл бұрын
I just painted and compounded over torn wallpaper. Glad I spent the extra and got the BIN primer.
@corbinchristensen15557 ай бұрын
Interesting. I've had great experiences with Gardz for drywall paper. However, here's a real interesting tip that I've discovered. When you have exposed drywall paper, if you just wet it down with water from your drywall sponge like you were trying to bend the sheetrock around a radius, the paper won't bubble off once it has all been laid down. I have stopped using Gardz for that particular purpose despite never having had an issue with it, cause water in a sponge is free and you don't have to wait for it to dry.
@webeducation3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Was going to use something like this on my garage door. Paint is starting to peel. Thanks.
@cimmeriian2 жыл бұрын
Gardz worked for me. Larger struggle was getting to a good paper layer. Was watching a video from That Kilted Guy where he covered drywall structure in detail. Had to get good lighting in and used my putty knife to tap everywhere, if there was give, kept scraping. I used Gardz, recoated, hot mudded, sanded, Gardz again, paint, recoat. So far so good. Bathroom wall. I do have a question, why do pros not just patch the drywall? It would be way faster than the above, cut it out, put a piece in, mud + tape, sand, done. Is it due to the size of the job where patching would not be feasible given a certain amount of time? Thanks in Advance! Last, from what I gathered, Draw-Tite Drywall Repair was #1, no argument, but low availability. So then it was Zinsser Gardz, then Kilz Klear. Roman Pro 999 Rx-35 and Zinsser BIN Shellac were basically a tie. People who used the Shellac such as yourself, swore by it but most of the discussion was around Gardz and Klear. Thanks for your videos!
@curiosity23143 жыл бұрын
Yeah bought the Zinsser Bin as you recommended in another video recently and yes it dried in an hour and I painted directly afterwards with excellent results. Probably the only issue would be as least from Home depot in the U.S. is that you have to buy it by the gallon. Fool me once fool me twice... You know the ending...
@victorvek5227 Жыл бұрын
Pro-999 on any raw faces, can be used before and after mud. And I’ve gotten in the habit of applying a light coat of 1-2-3 primer prior to 2-3 topcoats of paint. Perfection every time.
@lordhyperkill3 жыл бұрын
From what I recall Back in the day Zinzer just used to be just shellac based primer and it was the go too for covering the dirtiest of dirties. mold, smoke damage, whatever would bleed through the normal stuff. Then rustoleum bought them and they just became a name for rustoleum to use on there top-tier primers. I do believe that the shellac based product is still the same as the OG Zinzer.
@JMBranded3 жыл бұрын
I used Gardz after scraping my kitchen ceiling of texture, that sucked, and so I managed to leave myself a lot of torn drywall paper. Not knowing really and learning about blisters, I soaked the heck out of the torn areas with Gardz, but I left it to dry for a couple days, aka, went back to work. I’m almost finished the ceiling part, feels like a thousand years have gone into this job, but so far, no blisters that I can tell. Being water based, perhaps drying time is key, and this product perhaps is not necessarily the best for quick jobs. No pro at all here, but that is my experience 👍
@xechs889 ай бұрын
From my experience if you take your time gardz works great. Like come back to project I guess that's why pros like using it, add more days of work lol. But I think for more impatient or DIY or quick jobs something like shellac primer would do the job better, more impatient proof.
@johnd238510 ай бұрын
"Feature that like button!" Hahahaha. Brilliant
@terrywood51374 ай бұрын
Gardz, is used mainly for pre prep for wallpapering, if you are experienced decorator ,you should know this
@muddnboots Жыл бұрын
I would have burned down the house and claimed it on insurance. ;o) Seriously, that is awesome that you shared this AND showed how to correct the problem. Thanks again!