Wholesome

Toycat needs to pin this

I’m glad you’re enjoying the game, so wholesome.

Wholesome! 💀

Hello old woman! Glad you enjoy the game ! The world is your oyster is what I always say. You know, back in my day Java and bedrock were 2 different payments. Gotta love corporate takeover. Onwards and upwards !

I started playing MCPE in like 2014 and Java in 2015 but had terrible laptop so I played MCPE until 2019 when I still had a bad desktop now then played both 👍🏼

Same but except with the old legacy console edition.

@@JmKrokY my first experience of Minecraft PE was Minecraft PE lite things were far more different then.

I started minecraft pocket edition 2016 and still play it because i dont have a console and on pc its too expensive :.)

@thebanana8150 it's just 6 dollars, and on Bedrock, you pay for EVERYTHING

And other mods like sodium lithium and starlight are licensed (GPL-3.0) in a way that mojang can't use them without open sourcing the entire mc code.

I mean, that doesn't mean Mojang can't make those changes. It just means they'd have to actually do the work and code it themselves, and can't copy existing code from mods.

a reason bedrock has better performance is its written i C++ Programming Language And Compiled Into Executables But Java Edition of Minecraft from it name its written in java programming language which runs in Java Operating System Or JVM (Java Virtual Machine) Mostly JVM Then Compiled To Bytecode Which is why it makes it slow plus JVM is virtual machine running a operating system and also took time to boot while java executables are running it makes minecraft really slow

if installing performance mod can bring the fps much higher, then the language itself isn't at fault. stop repeating this BS that because it's Java it's slow. Java and C++ can get close in performance

@@thearmyofiron (Joke:) i still hate OOP, Interpreted Languages or languages that doesnt run standalone even C++ C, Haskell, Lisp And Rust Are Holy Programming Languages To Me

TNT duper, carpet duper (+ infinite fuel), nether roof builds, is what comes in mind

@@Eh......... dupers always get removed.

@@ok10469 not in java

@@Eh......... not True at all. Dupers which work in 1.20 are very very few

@@ok10469 not tnt dupers, not carpet/ rail dupers

Toycatthenottable

I play bedrock edition

If youtube was split 50/50 between java nad bedrock creators toycat would not be nearly as popular. I myself do not like his style of videos but he still is my go-to source of information on bedrock.

@@kacperwoch4368 I would somewhat agree. He definitely has his own style but the main reason I watch him is because he’s usually the first on bedrock specific news.

Does he at least mention the loading issues for bedrock on consoles (Nintendo Switch being the worst often taking 2-5 minutes to fully load in Minecraft and Microsoft along with skins and marketplace). Also the timing issues with redstone which causes the inability for creation of flying machines in bedrock (100% fixable by the way where KZfaqrs claimed this isn't fixable and had no clue what they were saying). Corrupt world files in bedrock edition from the Microsoft Minecraft store/ marketplace. Most issues with bedrock are the fact mojang is now a stock owned company by Microsoft. Same goes for the performance in java, however the bedrock has also had extremely high performance drops in consoles and PC though less noticeable on PC. (Just had this comment come back in my notifications. Wanted to say some good news, in the bug reports Mojang has finally acknowledged that Redstone is completely wrong in the bedrock and they are going to fix it at an unscheduled update.... And it took how many reports for this acknowledgement... After all legacy console and bedrock are programmed in C++ and legacy console versions of Minecraft had proper redstone.)

It has done that since 1.17. That was in 2020.

glad somebody else noticed but guess cant expect catman to know everything at least he didnt say biome water colors was bedrock exclusive this time

neat but dose it have flamethrower golems hmmmmmm

@@evergreengamer5767 toxic

@@murillomelo683 Not really.

EXACTLY ☠️

ibxtoycat is a vanilla Minecraft purist, though.

​@@timothyvanhoeck233 aka pretty lame

yea bro u need mods for everything bedrock just has it already

@@ahmed-music-prod You don't *NEED* mods, the game is totally playable without changing anything (unless you play on a pregnancy test kit).

@@ahmed-music-prod you need 2 total mods for most important bedrock features (which tbf, are not that important) I don't really understand the benefit from bedrock you get complete modding freedom vs better frames and less setup time

Hey, i saw your last two videos! I just want to say that i really enjoyed them, and i hope you make more!

same

Hmm

I play both but Java has better feel to it

Yeah they were great hope you keep making more

they need to fix the lag in mangrove swamp/jungle ASAP. like it has been literal YEARS and those biomes are still unplayable on java if you want to have a decent render distance (over 7 chunks)

Its really sad how much better Minecraft Bedrock can run on phones than Minecraft Java on a PC. They really need to do something about it soon.

Most of my experience has been on Mobile or Console now bedrock I played Java on a frankly banjaxed notepad when I was 7 to 9 while also playing java on better computers at friends houses. My console is an X Box series X.

@@nafsii04 You must have a very terrible pc if those biomes are unplayable on Java for you. My PC is like 4 years old now and I still get way over 200fps with 24 render distance.

@@evilpaper456 im a person with an average work laptop, i dont have a computer. those biomes are playable on bedrock with 60fps, so the problem is with java.

Finding people who actually like Bedrock is rare on the internet, I love Bedrock a lot so I'm included.

Lagva

I think parity is slowing down development and hindering both editions since Java and C++, while related, are very different languages with different capabilities.

@@JasonTaylor-po5xcthey aren’t far enough apart to cause gameplay differences. The only real differences are technical and wouldn’t he noticeable by the end user

@@luiginotcool At a high level, yes. But Redstone works differently. Bridging is different. Bedrock has trident killers. Java has villager scare mechanic for iron farms. You can build on the nether roof in Java. The Wither is much harder in Bedrock. Mojang has made significant moves forward in parity (seed generation although structures are still different). Bedrook has no structures in superflat, no hardcore mode, not biome-only worlds, etc. The point is Mojang is basically coding everything twice and working through different sets of bugs. There are also Bedrock limitations because of mobile device/console support that hold back Java edition and even the PC Bedrock edition.

@@JasonTaylor-po5xc these differences aren’t because of the 2 different languages though. They’re different because they’re just different games

@@luiginotcool I'm a software engineer for the past 25 years. I am extremely familiar with both C++ and Java. Some of the differences are because of technology platform. For example, graphics rendering is better on Bedrock because of more native access to rendering engines. The main thing holding back Bedrock is simply needing to accommodate mobile devices. In theory, Bedrock should perform much better than Java simply because Java is an interpreted language vs native compiled.

I think Microsoft (who owns minecraft) WANTS us to argue- to try and get more BE players- and BE is not available on Mac or Linux -Microsoft’s main competition

Same

Most of my experience has been on Mobile or Console now bedrock I played Java on a frankly banjaxed notepad when I was 7 to 9 while also playing java on better computers at friends houses. My console is an X Box series X.

The only reason why i played bedrock is because addons.

@@tjb3171 Trust me, they don't need to get more BE players, it's the primary version of Minecraft now, and it has way WAY more players than Java does. I personally prefer java for the ability to use mods, but Java is no longer the primary version of the game, and that has been the case for a while. There's a reason bedrock's title screen just says MINECRAFT, while java's says MINECRAFT :Java Edition

The shop and coins is the only reason why I'll never play bedrock (well, besides Microsoft never acknowledging my store application to list my RP for free).

@Jack Verner then don't implement a shop. Games and shops don't mix. It's for fun, not for another place to spend money in.

@@trakaiszeks if you dont like it then stop playing java edition too because microsoft owns both versions of the game

@@trakaiszeks Aw boohoo, let me a sad song for you on the worlds smallest violin

For me the shop just feels odd in Minecraft, but yeah you don't have to visit it but it can sometimes feel scummy. (Also Microsoft isn't the main creator for things on the shop, it is small development teams or indie creators) either way I think the shop is good, but I don't know if it fits Minecraft.

Issue is that Bedrock splits render and simulation distance, whereas in Java it's the same thing. In Java all seen chunks are fully loaded. I wish they'd separate it in Java, apparently it's possible to implement, though I doubt Mojang will do it.

​@@Olivia-Wthat feature exists on sodium i believe. which is easy to install

FarPlane 2 proves that if Mojang bothered to add LODs like every other 3d game ever, render distance would be essentially unlimited.

@@notme8232 imagine what could do big company when modders do already impressive

You can just choose not to use tnt dupers lol

​@@honukane242 r/woosh

Ya, the thing i love in bedrock is animals respawn. But not many good mods there for free. The good mods only available in marketplace and u need to buy it. It hurts my brain.

Tnt dupers aren't even a thing anymore. How is bedrock's vanilla better if even the combat is stuck in 1.8 😭

@@bonemanhollow bro doesn’t even know what that means 💀

Yup. Most 3rd-party launchers basically have "one click mod install" now.

You have to give bedrock more RAM

It has a preset for how much it uses so its prilly getting like 1g of it

That's only if your computer can run Forge's new bullshit, not everyone has an expensive gaming computer

@@0grey0 My previous laptop only had a GTX 1650 and a mid-range mobile Ryzen from a few generations ago (can't remember the exact chip, but it wasn't high end) and it could run modded Minecraft just fine at 8-16 chunks in like 1.16, which was the current latest version of the game the last time I played on it. It would have to be some really dated or low end laptop not designed for gaming to have significant issues running java at least 8 chucks (the minimum at which I think is reasonably playable), especially with the correct mods and settings. Yes, bedrock can run better at higher render distances, but the input lag this adds to the game is really noticeable on more recent versions and the engine doesn't utilize high end hardware nearly as well because what I can best describe as engine limitations or poor resource optimizations, it's bad enough that my newest laptop somehow runs the bedrock edition worse than my previous one did. As a matter of fact, my laptop even before that one which had an i3 and uhd 620 integrated graphics, ran bedrock almost as good as my second one did despite having a HDD and only 8Gbs of cheap single channel memory. I know bedrock has it's place, however java edition is the best my opinion in terms of mods, and it has much more options in terms of tweaking to get the most out of your experience.

Yeah, idk why people are arguing on which version is the best, in my opinion they're equal and I love playing both

I can agree with you here. I started playing bedrock (console edition) in 2017 and I instantly fell in love with it. I started playing Java very recently (this month) and am extremely surprised by the graphics and how fast the game runs and everything like that. I can’t pick sides and don’t know why people argue about versions.

​@@axefuriousfe3228true. Java is customisable, but bedrock has more dev support

With a pickaxe too 😭

Why?

@@JmKrokY Got tired of bedrock(played since2013), and i like java gameplay a bit more

@@ZetQo Isn't the gameplay almost the exact same?

@@JmKrokY Faster healing and no spamming in pvp

@@ZetQo Pre 1.9 PvP is superior on Java anyways, not sure why you would prefer new combat PvP 🗿 Although new combat is great for PvE 👍🏼 Also yeah healing on Bedrock sucks

Good man

Based

I've described it as rock sweat before

@@trueblueflare that also works well, but it tastes like metal to me 🗿

All water tastes like coins to me idk why

I’m pretty sure you *can* import skins on bedrock, but it won’t be whitelisted by default and other players have to enable a special option to see it.

@@rosebousch2175 On PC bedrock yes, but console doesn't, I'm playing on the Xbox one version.

@@313Games well if you use other software on xbox, you can get custom skins, just search it on youtube and you'll get your answer

Essential mod allows you and your friends to be friends and join each others worlds like bedrock

@@JediFrog7 I didn't know about that thanks!

They will eventually add the off hand and hopefully option to see chunk border and hit boxes but not betting on that second one anytime soon

@@circadianvenus7119 no thats not been announced yet and i dont think its possible to use off hand on controller

@@K3N there was an added command on bedrock that allows you put more in your off hand, also a controller is about the same as a mouse, it will work on controller the same way as on mouse

Me too I just hate some toxic Java players for attacking people for playing a version of the game they don't like as much.

Yeah but we (Bedrock) Also have people that attack java (mostly kids). Java youtubers do hate on bedrock more because they are used to playing java and are PC gamers.

Both versions good

I do red stone too but for me bedrock is easier to understand and do redstone fore.

i mean every platform on bedrock they had to make it good somehow lol

@@Austinfdp except switch

@@PotionMaster21 fax

Bedrock is made to support a phone of course it’s gonna be good

Java with controller is great except there is no native controller support, you would have to use mods but other than that it works great and any controller works!

If you ever do try out java, remember to also try the Controllable mod! It's pretty much what the name implies, which is full controller support. Just be careful how/when you download mods, viruses are everywhere. The best place to download mods is usually curseforge.

You can use steam or probably other mods to enable controller on Java

I use a mod called MidnightControls and it supports both dualshock and xinput controllers, it's amazing. Super customizable too. You should definitely install it if you get Java edition.

A keyboard and mouse is way better for Minecraft, inventory management is clunky with a controller, same with crafting, and looking or aiming at a specific point is near impossible with a controller.

I agree 100%. I think it’s bc bedrock was made for console.

@@ChillDude123 Yeah - You cant even put your game in the background because it will frickin' reboot itself.

Well, what you feel about something isn't untrue. We're humans and feeling is what we do. I wish more Java players in comment sections would aknowledge that their gripe comes down to how it feels different. That's fine but different isn't wrong. It's just different. Bedrock PC players have a similar experience when trying Java.

i like that you can play different updates on the java edition too! i actually started a new world recently on the java edition just for the sake of playing the 1.8 update

@@TheFlyfly you can on bedrock too but need a third party software. it sucks that the launcher don't have it... But if you own bedrock, couldn't you get java for free before?

yea i have all that

He does make a point though. Doing all 3 of those things takes much more effort and time than doing them on Bedrock. And I’m the type of person who plays mods on Java all the time.

Lmao. Curseforge mods are a pain

@@leffemonette you literally just download one app click 2 buttons and you're done, what are you on about?

@@leffemonette I used it for a year and I had no problems.

You forgot multiplayer, if I want to just play a world with my friends bedrock is so much more convenient, and I say that as someone who prefers Java and really into mods.

@@thetabbyguy921 there is the essentials mod which pretty much brings the ease of multiplayer with friends to java.

@@deathrobloxian as much as I like mods having it in vanilla is more convenient.

@@thetabbyguy921 k.

@@thetabbyguy921 Alright that’s a fair point

you can get resource packs for free on bedrock as well

@@TheEmeraldCreeper only on mcpedl which only works for mobile & pc, plus there’s a very limited range and a poor quality selection. It’s full of scams and not monitored well and it’s nothing compared to the Java selection. Even MCPEDL isn’t all free tonight

@@NotAgnor I mean, there's also faithful. I don't find myself using much as the classic texture pack is nice. there's also a free RTX pack on the marketplace i'm pretty sure but you need a certain graphics card

@@TheEmeraldCreeper yeah, faithful is good but that’s on Java too & the marketplace one is stolen. Theres way better packs and pbr and stuff on Java, there’s also RTX shaders there & normal shaders with no minimum requirements

@@NotAgnor I don't use the market place faithful, I use faithfulvenom, which isn't stolen but i've used the ones from the faithful sight as well before. The main issue I have with Java is lag, and while not unplayable it is a little annoying

As a Java supremacist I will say Java probably has a ton of issues idk what these are but our lord and savior Java edition isn’t perfect I mean without optifine and other mods the game has a stroke and dies

He did not mean bugs by issues.

@@citricmantis_543 I know

@@slyar oh, sorry

@@softy_alt6596 Yeah very true but i gotta hand it to bedrock they have the better combat system

How're the mods?

​@@Gerlaffy expensive

Ok then, stop playing Hypixel. That’s the kind of combat it uses.

1.17

@@vanilluhs dang has it already been that long? Feels recent to me.

@@WhatIsMyPorpoise me too man me too

Nice grammar

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I’ve always played Bedrock (don’t have a PC) but when I did play Java, I noticed everything was so much smoother and everything felt so much sharper and more precise. I played both the Bedrock Edition and Java Edition on PC at 240fps capped, and yet Java still felt much more enjoyable in terms of how smooth it was. This was on a friend’s PC, which has an i5 12400f, RTX 3060 combination. Did have optifine on Java btw, and Shaders too. Looked and felt amazing. I hope someday we’ll get Ray Tracing on Next-Gen. The consoles can definitely handle it, but for some reason Mojang or Microsoft don’t want to add it in.

@@V1Salvo they probably can’t hit 60fps and don’t want to risk hurting bedrocks reputation of running way better than Minecraft, having a further render distance for less frames and all that. I use optifine too and average something like 300fps at 1440p ultrawide, yes I know it’s overkill for Minecraft I play other games too 😂 tbh they are both fun I like how they can monetize one version of the game to keep another version totally free and have updates over 10 years after release

@@titans2720 I mean, I think they can. I have a $300 Series S and, before it was patched, I put an addon that would allow you to run Minecraft at 120fps (normally runs at 60). It ran perfectly, no frame drops, and at max render distance too (28 chunks on Xbox). So for sure it would be able to run at the very least at 1080p 60fps with Ray Tracing. As for the Series X and PS5, they are even more powerful. I mean, even the Xbox One & PS4 were supposed to have the Super Duper Graphics Pack which ended up being cancelled. Those are last-gen consoles. So yeah, they are 100% more than capable enough. These consoles are sold at a loss, made up for in Xbox Live Gold & PS+ membership monthly revenue, so they are much more powerful than you may think. A $300 Series S is equivalent to a PC worth $750-$850 at least. The Ray Tracing was also demoed multiple times in 2020 on the Series X, where it ran flawlessly, before then being cancelled after the release of the next-gen systems. Right now I’m basically playing Minecraft on Next-Gen but on the Last-Gen version, which sucks. It’s not even Next-Gen Optimised.

I hope I don't sound too toxic but as a bedrock player myself I think you're making things sound worse then they actually are. For example in your comment you talk a lot about modding but as a casual player (most Bedrock players are) I don't really care about mods and am happy with the ones we have, I have texture packs, great behaviour packs and much more which makes everything you said was bad much better, Mojang is already working on modding capabilities for Bedrock and soon we might have even better mods and (maybe) rival Java, also I've built many farms in my life and none of them have been too big or slow. Going on to your take on commands, I am kind of mad about how bad the Commands are on Bedrock but I don't think they're 'terrible', We can do (almost) everything that Java can Do but it might take a few more steps. Also let's remember that Java PVP used to be like Bedrocks and that many people in the Java community like the old style and may even move over to Bedrock for it. I have played on Bedrock for ages and have never found a problem with the PVP and think that there is no real Spam-Click aspect since just spamming will let the opponent get an opening on you. I have played Bedrock sincere I was a child and find most of the things you said are very minor issues to me but I guess people who have Laptops and PCs are used to having stronger more powerful systems and better games and aren't used to the more optimised, more open versions. hope I didn't seem to mean in that and if I did, sorry lol.

Did NOT mean to write a full 3 paragraphs lol

What you're really saying is that you don't like Minecraft when you complain about mods not existing. Just stop playing if you don't like the game. Stop forcing yourself to do things you hate. This is true of all games. If you can't play it vanilla then you simply do not like it and should waste your time or money on it. Find something you enjoy to start with.

@@RunicSigils if I find an issue with something, you’d assume I could fix it myself no? All I need is some tiny tweaks. This point isn’t very fair either; Bedrock has mods itself, it’s an intended thing. I don’t really understand why Bedrock players flex that it’s the vanilla version, the mods I’ve pointed out are mods for a reason. Mojang isn’t going to add a schematic feature because it doesn’t fit in their eyes.

@@Zer0_2199 good response, I suppose the two versions are for two different types of players. One is for casual players who don’t really care that they lose minor things for some optimizations and playing with friends. The other is for technical players.

While there are differences they're not so massive that you can't play the game normally

Some call it a game, but in fact it's a platform with the amount of mods, plugins and other things. However all that is only for java edition, lmao

The Bedrock marketplace's existence tells me Mojang recognizes this and is trying to bring some of that content ecosystem over, but the current implementation just, isn't it.@@user-h7W178TsRk

What does that have to do with being lazy?

@@citricmantis_543 Well I was disproving Toycats theory that Optifine is not good by saiyng that even Mojang itself knows it is and is interested in improving the game but won't do it themselfs

@@JmKrokY they should add sodium, lithium and starligth instead instead they are miles better than optifine for performance

@@JmKrokY it was optifine's creator who denied it, not mojang

@@exist_E I know?

I’ve actually tried bedrock btw I’ve played on mobile switch and Xbox for a bit. So when I say I don’t like it I’m not just saying cuz it’s the popular opinion. I forgot to add this to the comment on top and didn’t want to edit it

Yes

Yes

There are texture packs that you could download for free for minecraft bedrock. People have been making videos on them for ages already :)

just use third party websites, it's what you do for java after all

Yes they can be as powerful. Bedrock is using a much better coding program. Anything Java can do, Bedrock can do way better.

and now its my main

@@rileytat123 Same. I still go back once in a while. Especially when my cousins invite me to play together.

This is the comment I was looking for. As a Minecraft player, I like both.