This layout is simply incredible. It's just so efficient. When we think of a "great layout", people usually think of something miniatur wunderland-like, but I do think that doing more with less is what is really interesting. Very interesting layout
@luciddaze2483 ай бұрын
Your video about "just do it" convinced me to setup a rough layout in N 120x60cm. I've got a more elaborate one I'm working on but I can play with my trains while that's under construction. Really enjoying both projects - one fast and easy, can change it anytime and test ideas for my main project. The other I get to endulge my fascination with detail (which is going to take years!).
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
That's a really good plan, I like that
@BrakeCoach3 ай бұрын
Something nice about Kato and Japanese models is that it is by design to be in a cramped space, and if you get their Unitrack, you can also set it up and disassemble wherever and whenever you want. The ballast is built in, and you can set it up and disassemble in less than an hour
@Maurice00PA3 ай бұрын
I agree. Even for a more permanent layout, I find it great that before I glue down track, I can experiment and actually run trains on the track plan and make changes as needed. The only problem with Kato track is that the points are expensive, since they include built-in point motors. Cheers.
@ausfoodgarden3 ай бұрын
I'm not keen on the look of Kato track, but it is excellent quality and just about bulletproof. As you say easy to rip up and put together.
@ianjeffery67443 ай бұрын
Fleischmann N gauge track with built-in ballast is good, too - do they still make it? The points were hand-operated, and I used a fair amount of this track for an HOe Austrian layout back in the 80s. It wasn't quite right for HOe (sleepers too close!), but it was of very high quality. Not ridiculously expensive, either, if I recallcorrectly.
@southjersey103 ай бұрын
I’m 100% Kato. I’ve been fortunate to find used points that have kept the track cost down. Americans love the larger layouts. I’ve become a rebel in that small layouts where I can interchange the same buildings is very appealing.
@carlorizzo53083 ай бұрын
If most enter the hobby and started with something like that, they wouldn't get as discouraged when they try to bite off more than they could chew. This is perfect until you get the hang of the hobby.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@donniblanco523927 күн бұрын
Your Channel was my influence, when I started this hobby 5 years ago and 2 wire technology works fine for me, but so many newbies to the hobby seem to be Dazzled by the Technology and accompanying Complications or get Over Anxious about Ballasting - I Run OO on an extended trackmat Tailchaser, running older stock that I like to Repaint and Modify and I have Great Fun. Many thanks 🙏🏻
@BudgetModelRailways26 күн бұрын
Sounds great ,have fun and thanks for watching
@NGaugeUSA3 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct about the Japanese N stuff being cheaper. I like that they still have quality control for the price. Their quality is on par with most American N scale and British N gauge stuff that I've seen.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
It's better and cheaper than most UK outline stuff, especially the rolling stock
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Japanese anything is no guarantee of QC just look at Seiko the past ten odd years, but Kato like Citizen has fantastic quality overall.
@martinhall603 ай бұрын
Great to see what can be done in N gauge in a small space. Looking forward to seeing forward to seeing how the railway grows. I also like the idea of being a freelance railway. I always think, it's your railway and you can run any train you want. You can create your own railway world. Well done sir. 👍🚂
@philipgreenhill27823 ай бұрын
Hi Philip here me and my girlfriend are doing a speril layout were the track just goes round and round up over and under do you think that is a good idea as I like it.its in oo scale but I've also got n scale.which is best.let me know .and is it good to use wood as I've been doing my railway layout for years now.i like your layout to.
@ianroper19603 ай бұрын
Your new layout could just as easily be a 009 narrow gauge set up. I like 009 as you can use oo gauge scenics with the 9mm track
@tabletop_railway3 ай бұрын
It’s an excellent track plan in a small space. Looking forward to seeing the upper loop added in due course !
@michaelayres99783 ай бұрын
Hornby is selling some TT120 coaches that only go around radius 3! Great video.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Madness, defeats the whole point of TT, it's laughable and self defeating
@michaelayres99783 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Must be the same size as H0 first Radius 😜😜
@monsvillerailways57363 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you on all points you made. Set track, first radius curves DC, single power inlet and Gravel Mats are the way to start in the hobby. 👍 The Kiss approach, (Keep it simple stupid) is the best way for people getting into the hobby. Happy Modelling.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support
@ianjeffery67443 ай бұрын
Quite right!
@richardtarr27453 ай бұрын
I enjoy playing trains, but I don't seem to need buildings, tunnels or scenery to get involved. I only use DC and mostly get away with a single wire attachment. As you say, it's surprising how complex the layout can be - one just has to think about the direction of the electricity. Currently, I have an oval with one passing loop and I've stuffing which is enough to mix my two engines up. Such fun - I look forward to seeing how your new layout develops😍
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Quite right, simplicity is the key.
@barbedwirerat6613 ай бұрын
N solves the issue of not having space for a layout...no excuses! I built a 2x4 N layout in college sharing a 2 bedroom apartment with 3 other students.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Well done you
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Do any your flat mates come round for a running session?
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Do your flat mates come round for a running session?
@barbedwirerat6613 ай бұрын
@@OscarOSullivan It was a bit of a curiosity for them. I'm not sure what they really thought when I was building it, but they did seem surprised as it came together. Ops were pretty simple. 5 industries plus a short spur for cars coming into the area. A single loop with no run-around sidings. A town scene on each side separated by a ridge (representing the gold/yellow colored foothills in central California during summertime) running diagonal down the center.
@daviemaclean613 ай бұрын
Can't beat a Cyril Freezer design. My OO layout is one of his that I'd wanted to build for years.
@ianjeffery67443 ай бұрын
Mr Freezer often advocated using the precision-made proprietary curved sections - especially on small layouts - as they were so much easier to use than trying to bend flexitrack to tight radii, with all the problems that might result from even small errors.
@aberfordwest40033 ай бұрын
Whilst I do like to put a bit more cash into my stock as I think it’s worth it, I really appreciate that there are budget items that can be had, and especially channels like yourself that focus on how to get the best value out of model railways rather than just showing off the newest dcc sound!
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
You are welcome here anytime as is any one who is one of the happy medium
@Madonsteamrailways3 ай бұрын
My layout is a 00 Gauge Dad’s Army layout running four DCC Sound locomotives and six DC locomotives. My latest equipment is a GWR Rail Motor with DCC Sound.
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Guess your one of the happy medium, more expensive rolling stock but a BMR approach to the track bed and scenery
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Guess your one of the happy medium, more expensive rolling stock but a BMR approach to the track bed and scenery
@michaeldavies96003 ай бұрын
Hi Mike i am watching this having breakfast,i walked into the living room and my good lady was sitting there drinking tea,i said 'how big is that coffee table' she asked why? It is 2 foot by 4 foot.😀Another great video Mike and you do come up with some wonderful ideas.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Lol, sounds like some negotiations are due
@michaeldavies96003 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Haha the coffee table top is perfect lol😂
@stuartallen86843 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Looking forward to seeing the finished layout.
@stevenjones19-m8i3 ай бұрын
Hello,I do like 'N' gauge as its easy to move or put so much into the layout.this one is ideal to work.
@steadycamman13 ай бұрын
AMAZING, thank you for the video, great to see what you are able to do with limited space, also a great introduction to the hobby for the younger ones, thanks again keep making great videos, regards, Pete 👍
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for the support
@johnbridges9553 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Totally agree on resolving the space issues with N. However, it’s just too small for me to see😂. So, I have to stick with 00.
@SBCBears3 ай бұрын
My old eyes agree and that is exactly why I chose OO. Well, that and wider choice of rolling stock.
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
OO for life as well
@PhilPage2273 ай бұрын
Excellent and inspirational, thank you.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
That's kind of you thanks
@ct2507753 ай бұрын
I am already looking forward to seeing this layout finished 😀
@davidsheriff89893 ай бұрын
Realism - things always go wrong....like the outer siding making use of the space...
@Vintageaudiofan19923 ай бұрын
The beginnings of another nice compact N gauge layout! :-D It was great to see you at the show in Ashford at the weekend Mike! :-) Hope to see you at another show soon! Best Wishes, Adam.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Hi Adam. Great to see you on Saturday. The shop in Eastbourne still has a box of TT stuff, a Jinty 4 or five coaches and loads of Wagons, about £60?
@user-vb4iq3zp9l3 ай бұрын
Just put my order in for my first n gauge … quite excited especially bout the futuristic emu courtesy of kato
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Traintrax are very good for Kato
@user-vb4iq3zp9l3 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways thats who I went with :)
@andreassimon22832 ай бұрын
Absolut wundervoll. Super!🙏
@BudgetModelRailways2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@trainworms3 ай бұрын
as someone who is still tied to 00/HO I am very tempted to try n gauge at some point.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Given that it covers a quarter of the area, it just gives so many possibilities. When linked to genuine budget kato locos and rolling stock both new and 2nd hand, it is much more in keeping with our budget model railway ethos
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
I am thinking about doing an exhibition type layout. Must go tip diving for a wooden board in good to great condition. Weight is no problem as I can lift the largest supermarket crate filled to the brim with 500g packs of onions with ease.
@tracynation28203 ай бұрын
Super. I have N and HO and love them both. I suggest trying to work in a passing siding somewhere in your layout designs, otherwise an excellent layout. 💙 T.E.N.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
A passing loop brings no actual benefit and takes length and another point, it's something Cyril Freezer had worked out. Everyone has them but it's more habit
@MrJoeyWheeler3 ай бұрын
N gauge is definitely not for me. However, the track and ballast definitely can be as I would love to have a OO9 section of a layout.
@southjersey103 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant design.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@955trainboy2 ай бұрын
looking forward to seeing this layout develop
@BudgetModelRailways2 ай бұрын
Thanks, so am I as so far I've only got the track plan sorted, no other ideas yet
@AgenoriaModelTrains3 ай бұрын
Nice little layout. I see that you are running quite a mix there. Is the DMU/EMU a Japanese one? In fact are they all Japanese locos?
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Japanese, kato freelance and 3d printed
@caniscuriosum33863 ай бұрын
Very nice layout that ticks all the boxes for my model railroading needs at the moment. Do the switches/turnouts placed so close to the curves cause you any bother. I find that I usually need to place even a short piece of straight track in between my curves and switches to ease the transition.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
No, no issues, although the Kato stuff is designed to be more tolerant, other makes might have an issue
@bernardsaucier20622 ай бұрын
Super Jolly, your layout!! Where could I purchase a dc controller as you show in this video? Remember please that I am in “the colonies” and wayyyy down in south Mississippi, so there’s not much n gauge rr stuff going on!! Cheers, Bernars
@BudgetModelRailways2 ай бұрын
Hi thanks. You can buy the boxes from our website, we ship to the US, but there is a delay on delivery at the moment. You would need to source the electrical components online, we use Ebay and Amazon in the UK. Again details on our website
@harrywoodell70083 ай бұрын
You can shunt that first wagon into the Repair In Place (RIP) track.
@djwarren50813 ай бұрын
I've seen a few track plans for 4'x2'. It's possible to have quite a complex layout in a small space, as you have just shown.
@garyhollins22663 ай бұрын
where can I see track plans for 4'x2' ? my max available space.
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Try any rail free software, and any plans book by Cyril J Freezer, which are easily adapted to fit whatever size you have. Best advice is keep it simple
@djwarren50813 ай бұрын
@@garyhollins2266 Google 4ftx2ft track plans. Go to images. Hundreds of them.
@railway1873 ай бұрын
Great layout! I must say, N-scale is tempting 😊 if I wouldn't have a large H0-collection yet, I would probably go for N-scale. Only minus is the height of the rails. They seem to be almost as high as OO-scale rails, which is quite high at that scale. Or are the modern Peco rails more to scale?
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
You can get lower profile but it doesn't bother me, reliability over looks
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be3 ай бұрын
I am doing Tt120 Queensland 3'6" on N track. 7ft wagon are the same size as Peco N gauge 9ft wagon.
@billybobbassman3 ай бұрын
What a brilliant little layout... yet more ideas for my 2024 project. By the way what was the name of the track book author you mentioned in the video? 👍🚂
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
He has written loads. This one actually came from a little pamphlet he wrote in the late 60s
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Sorry, his name is Cyril J Freezer, he actually wrote most of the Peco guides
@billybobbassman3 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways worth having a look round for. Many thanks
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
Sadly been dead for over ten years
@BarryLowis3 ай бұрын
Did you see the email I sent re. Start stop automatic kato trams, Mike?
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Not yet
@BarryLowis3 ай бұрын
I think you will find it very interesting.
@OscarOSullivan3 ай бұрын
While it is a great layout I proudly will remain a OO modeller for life.
@Madonsteamrailways3 ай бұрын
And by the way, what’s the small electric locomotive in the long siding at the top of this layout?
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
It's one of the excellent Kato pocket line range. Superb runners and only £45 with two Wagons
@Madonsteamrailways3 ай бұрын
Well I would struggle with N Gauge because my eyes aren’t as good as they were. I just can’t see to put the track together!!
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
Kato N Gauge Track would solve that but I know what you mean lol
@djwarren50813 ай бұрын
Specsavers.
@bugler753 ай бұрын
Hi, this is genuine advice😊 I have quite a lot of eyesight trouble due to diabetes. Ask at the optician about glasses more suited to the hobby. A good optician will be able create lenses that are suitable for seeing detail at 0-18 inches (0-40 cm) rather that the standard distance and/or reading. But I understand, it’s expensive too! All the best and happy modelling 😊 Ian
@christopherwarren94393 ай бұрын
how much did that layout cost and what track you needed to do it
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
The track was all very second hand so a fraction of buying new. It's basically a 1st radius oval, four points three short curves and some straights. I probably paid about £40 for the track, it would be more than double that new. The baseboard cost me £3 from our local tip shop. Roofing felt was free, when I took it off my old shed lol
@christopherwarren94393 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways thank you I will go to my local model railway store to see if they have second hand track. and the board is 2ft by 3ft am I right
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
3ft by 22in to be exact. You need the shortest set track points
@christopherwarren94393 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways thank you I will find some board for it love your vids. and did you build your own controler for the layout
@mikeray39933 ай бұрын
What is an ‘inglenook’ layout? explanation rather than pictures please, I’m totally blind
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
It's a short shunting layout using two points, one left one right, and three parallel sidings, with a head shunt. You use a card system to generate random consists of Wagons and shunt them around to complete it
@mikeray39933 ай бұрын
thanks very much. But I don’t understand how you do all that with only two points
@BudgetModelRailways2 ай бұрын
That's the amazing thing about inglenook puzzles. With 9 Wagons there are something like 4k options of the order of the Wagons. You basically move them back and forth using all three lines till you have them where you want them
@paulsharpe37943 ай бұрын
Never work with children animals or trains
@christopherbraiden67133 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video video, probably will make this one, but getting the bits and pieces together for my tram layouts Does the old n gauge run on first radius?😎🚋🚋🚋🇬🇧
@BudgetModelRailways3 ай бұрын
UK outline stuff is problematic, older will probably be OK, but not newer, its why I don't run UK
@christopherbraiden67133 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways thanks
@adp5R3x3 ай бұрын
Many Gentlemen regret previous investment in Other Scales ... Model them ALL ! TODAY is as good a 1st day as any to foray into sampling another scale ... Multi-Scale 🫵 then you don't have to worry about "Changing"