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@bonniegadsden9097
@bonniegadsden9097 Ай бұрын
Emotionalism cannot be sustained. Eventually the emotional dopamine wanes, and people either leave, or double down on getting that high back.
@bun197
@bun197 Ай бұрын
I don’t think people really get what this means. As a human being you are constantly subject to emotional states, your entire brain chemistry represents the world to you as influenced by them. There’s no getting around how inherently biased just being a human subject makes you, you’re only ever aware of yourself really, everything else is filtered through that.
@FourEyedFrenchman
@FourEyedFrenchman Ай бұрын
This phenomenon is also known as "Convert Fever." The thing about conversion is that it is very tempting to throw all your sticks into the fire all at once and watch the fire burn bright and really feel the heat and warmth of it. Thing is, if you don't go out and collect more sticks to keep the fire burning, the fire burns out and is reduced to embers or goes cold altogether. Christ doesn't want lukewarm followers, but he doesn't want burnouts, either. Keep the fire burning bright, warm, and steady, brothers and sisters.
@Scarecrow-sq1vh
@Scarecrow-sq1vh Ай бұрын
One thing that I'm glad that you brought up in this video is the whole idea of everyone needing a "Born again experience". I went to a Christian Middle/High school and there were many times in Bible classes in which I had to make up something for an assignment to talk about my "born again experience" or my "testimony" because it was very heavily emphasized. Through those experiences I realized that not everyone has one of those and that one does not "get saved" by saying a single prayer and all is good. It is unfortunate because I know that I, among the many people in that school who were raised in very good conditions going to church since birth, felt that I wasn't as much of a Christian because I didn't have this amazing "testimony" to share. I do absolutely acknowledge that people do have these experiences and that there are amazing stories of people finding Christ in their darkest of times, but that is not the case for everyone and it doesn't make anyone less of a Christian for not having such a story.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
Begome Presbyterian. Nobody will ever require that of you again
@youknowmyname5695
@youknowmyname5695 Ай бұрын
Exactly! "Born Again" Evangelical Crazy Nonsensical Speak 😡
@ignitus7777
@ignitus7777 Ай бұрын
​@@youknowmyname5695It's not non-sense just because you didn't sense!
@keelanenns4548
@keelanenns4548 Ай бұрын
Join the Reformed church my brother
@LorenzoNivellini-wz6wh
@LorenzoNivellini-wz6wh Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I've had a similar experience. I grew up Catholic and, over the past couple of years, have tried to grow my personal relationship with Jesus along with practicing the sacraments. When I've talked and met with other Christians, they always talk about a moment at which they were saved or Jesus COMPLETELY turned their lives around, and I've felt like I must not be saved because I haven't had that transformative moment. I also saw a video recently that said that, to tell whether you are truly saved, look at your life before and after you were Christian and compare the two. For me, that doesn't really work since I've been Christian my WHOLE life. LOL!
@Your.Favorite.LARPer
@Your.Favorite.LARPer Ай бұрын
I didn’t even know about the revival he mentioned in the beginning 💀💀
@meteo28
@meteo28 Ай бұрын
It was at an Asbury Christian festival, search it up (not that I’d recommend to tbh)
@niccolopaganini1782
@niccolopaganini1782 Ай бұрын
I think I have, I think it was from RZ only. Can't remember clearly though.
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 Ай бұрын
I did, but I was immediately skeptical and even had some concerns. Looks like I was right, or at least my hunches weren't totally unfounded.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
If a revival fails, it does not mean that it was false. Then again, Asbury seems to have these things about every 6-10 years or about once per student intake. The question from my side is what happens to those who have left the college and experienced one if these revivals.
@meteo28
@meteo28 Ай бұрын
@@jeremywilliams5107 failed revivals just aren’t revivals. It ruins the whole definition of revival if it fails
@xwaazes6375
@xwaazes6375 Ай бұрын
congrats on proposing to future mrs. Zoomer.
@thechudson
@thechudson 26 күн бұрын
I had to do a double take when I heard the word fiancé. Our boy is just about all grown up now🎉
@TheGerkuman
@TheGerkuman Ай бұрын
Despite being someone who (as usual) finds themselves in between the Old Light and New Light in regard to revivalism, I definitely think that if the Apostle Paul had been around when people were accusing others of not being saved due to not being enthusiastic enough, he'd have given them a severe talking to.
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
Perhaps like he did in 1 Corinthians?
@louannebvb
@louannebvb Ай бұрын
New light be like "Hey, Ho, more passion, more passion, more energy, more energy, more energy, more footwork, more footwork, more energy! More energy!"
@arthurbrugge2457
@arthurbrugge2457 29 күн бұрын
"More energy! Less truth, less mental work, less Bible!"😅
@Irishman8778
@Irishman8778 18 күн бұрын
It makes me wonder if this was some kind of over compensation for the "salvation by faith alone" sentiment that came from reactions to "salvation by works" mentalities found within Catholicism at the time. That maybe this emphasis on "energy/passion" was their answer, whether conscious or subconscious, to the rejection of salvation by works. A sort of pendulum swing, if you will. After being under one extreme of living by a legalistic and impossible law to then being under another extreme of "faith alone so works don't matter," an emphasis on passion and emotion could potentially be a driving force towards an ideal where salvation comes through faith and that faith without works is dead. Maybe the "new lights" described here saw a "dead faith" that was not being backed up by works and sought to remedy that with passion and "energy," unfortunately also including the pitfalls that came with such an approach. Ultimately, as with most things, it seems there are always pros and cons to both sides of an issue.
@arthurbrugge2457
@arthurbrugge2457 14 күн бұрын
@@Irishman8778 That's a good point. Sometimes coldness and lack of life can infiltrate a church and make it stagnant. Thankfully, the answer is not to bend the knee to crazy heterodox madness from the NAR😃
@8bitfilms584
@8bitfilms584 Ай бұрын
12:03 THANK YOU! I grew up Baptist and when I started taking Christianity more seriously a couple years ago I used to stress if I was truly saved. I cannot point to a specific moment when I became Christian, all I know is that I am saved now. I am glad people are pointing this out so people can stop stressing if they are truly saved even though they ARE Christian.
@user-ku1kz4gz8q
@user-ku1kz4gz8q Ай бұрын
I think this also can be fixed with sacramental theology
@jrgills
@jrgills Ай бұрын
I’m guessing you also “prayed to receive Christ” when you were like 7 and don’t even remember 😅 that’s my story pretty much
@8bitfilms584
@8bitfilms584 Ай бұрын
@@jrgills I probably said “ The sinners prayer” about over ten times for this reason lol. 🤣
@samgodzwa7927
@samgodzwa7927 Ай бұрын
I’m a Pentecostal, and I agree with a lot of your points. I think the biggest problem with my denomination is the celebrity pastor epidemic and churchgoers only consuming what the kingdom gives them and not actively fighting for it. A lot of churches will have “revival nights” that end up looking more like concerts, and elevating pastors to a celebrity status removes their accountability and allows heresy like the prosperity gospel to thrive. I don’t think all revival is bad though. I think it has some Biblical backing, particularly when God uses Jonah to prompt all of Nineveh to turn to Him. Also, Paul’s ministry incited many scenarios that could be called revivals. I actually think Ashbury was a net positive, especially for that university in particular. It started because of someone forgiving someone else who wronged them greatly, and they treated the celebrity pastors who showed up like equals, not letting them speak just because of their church’s size. Nevertheless, revivals can easily be used for personal gain and that is something all Christians need to be aware of. Also, emotions do not equal faithfulness. Jesus didn’t die to make us feel good.
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
Look at the revivals at asbury over the years... they have continuously dissolved good biblical principles and replaced them with progressive worldliness. The asbury "revival" was a big ole lgbtq festival. That's not the work of the HS.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
True. That's part of the reason I stopped attending church for many years. It all felt so artificial. Like I was attending a show, where I was just a spectator. Most church services have become lifeless. They all basically follow the same structure. And don't change. You pretty much know everything that is going to happen at the service, even before it begins. I don't think that is what the apostles had in mind for church. The early church seemed more dynamic. Constantly growing, moving, evangelizing, in touch with the local community. Church happened wherever the disciples went. I have recently begun attending church again, because I know we are commanded to gather with other believers. But I find myself often distracted and not really connected with what is going on in the service. It seems like the church is not really engaging the culture or community. It refuses to change or to adapt in order to reach more people for Christ. Sometimes I think that the churches would be stronger if they didn't have church buildings. I think most people who attend church wish there was a more meaningful way to serve in the church. But most churches already have their positions filled. And usually the only positions they will allow you to participate in, is something basic like being an usher, or watching the kids. No real work for mature believers
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
@@nerychristian Church is the body of believers and the service needs to be aimed at the discipleship of the believer. The work of reaching the non-believer is called evangelism and that should principally be done outside the church, individually. When church tries to evangelize the non-believer and be seeker sensitive than there is no fruit for the believer and it makes church pointless and leads to a very theologically shallow congregation. This is one of the main reasons why pentecostals have such terrible theology... they'll say whatever is necessary to get someone in the door including "you can have superpowers..."
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
@@anthonyprose4965 I agree with you that church is supposed to be a fellowship for believers. But at the same time, I think the church is failing to disciple believers. Part of the discipleship process should be preparing men to tak on duties and responsibilities in the church. But in most churches, it's probably like 5% of the members who are actively using their gifts in some capacity. When the pastors are salaried, there is not incentive to try to train or to produce new preachers and teachers. Ideally, the pastors and teachers should be training the young men so that they can one day take over the teaching duties, or so that they can go open their own congregations. A church that is not growing and expanding every few years in not a healthy church.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
​​@@nerychristianall four of the ministries in Eph.4 are necessary: the evangelists to evangelise, the pastors to look after the flock (old and new), the apostles to direct and fix doctrine, and the prophets to declare what Christ wants and explain the Scriptures (there are more nuances but that's a good start). We tend to hear a lot about evangelists, something maybe about pastors and teachers, but there's virtually nobody who ever talks about apostles and prophets. But the verse indicates that if you don't have them, you can't go on to perfection.
@SomeoneOrthodox
@SomeoneOrthodox Ай бұрын
Im not even Protestant, i am Orthodox, but i like your videos a lot! Your channel is the best Protestant theology channel i usualy watch, even tho i do not agree with you on a lot of things.
@christophersmith6818
@christophersmith6818 Ай бұрын
The only true revival i recognize was the revival of Minecraft after the dark ages . . .
@christianlamb3911
@christianlamb3911 Ай бұрын
Very insightful video. As a former DoC and newly found Catholic, you have me curious in reformed theology. Like you said towards the end of the video, I haven’t really been exposed to reformed theology. Thank you Zoomer, may God bless you
@Idishrkdmd
@Idishrkdmd Ай бұрын
Read aquinas if you want to learn about it in the summa. I personally wouldn’t subscribe to TULIP (the points of Calvinism) as a catholic though
@christianlamb3911
@christianlamb3911 Ай бұрын
@@Idishrkdmd I understand, I’m not saying I reject Calvinism or Thomism (I’m more familiar with Thomas Aquinas), but it is unique to learn a different train of thought, even if I don’t end up subscribing to that belief. That’s how I came to understand the teachings of the Catholic Church, I rejected it completely for so long, then I learned to understand it. While I subscribe to the Catholic teachings, I do want to broaden my knowledge of other people’s beliefs even if I disagree. It’s beneficial to know what it is you’re arguing against than only to know what you’re arguing for
@brendonspeech4115
@brendonspeech4115 Ай бұрын
I've been increasingly moving away from American evangelicalism towards more traditional forms of Protestantism and your videos have been influential in this.
@Fassnight
@Fassnight Ай бұрын
Yes with the Asbury "Revival" People asked me as well and my answer was, "Let's wait and see the fruit."
@butterkan3584
@butterkan3584 Ай бұрын
Tbh this minecraft gameplay is fire
@joeycrasher1467
@joeycrasher1467 Ай бұрын
If only Zoomer knew that Log College was the predecessor to Princeton Theological Seminary...
@jqvvppdy
@jqvvppdy Ай бұрын
he mentioned this at 16:47
@joeycrasher1467
@joeycrasher1467 Ай бұрын
​@@jqvvppdyI still don't know if he realizes the relationship between the two
@Lemone262
@Lemone262 Ай бұрын
He literally said at 21:26 that Log College guys founded Princeton. I'm not American so idk anything about those and I don't care, but RZ _did_ say that.
@Damian-117
@Damian-117 Ай бұрын
Christ is King! 🙏
@bobbydeason6581
@bobbydeason6581 Ай бұрын
I was able to go to Asbury. It was a wonderful experience. I really believe God moved and did special things there in my life and others. I also think the national attention it received sparked something good in our society. Call it revival or not, it was a blessing and we need more faith and unity like what I experienced there.
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
Did they promote LGBTQ clergy church positions? If so, not of the Holy Spirit and a false revival going after doctrines of man.
@Sm64wii
@Sm64wii Ай бұрын
I grew up in a Baptist area and people would have dates on their instagram of when they got saved and talk about it at school and I was always scared that I wasn’t saved because I never had a dramatic emotional experience. Old light ftw
@jdkayak7868
@jdkayak7868 Ай бұрын
There are Baptists old lights usually in the particular Baptist world such as Gavin Ortlund.
@8MinutesExplainer
@8MinutesExplainer Ай бұрын
Minecraft fans like here.
@moisespayares7434
@moisespayares7434 Ай бұрын
Terraria players like here.
@adriflux7704
@adriflux7704 8 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t that be every single subscriber?
@boofe6431
@boofe6431 Ай бұрын
This channel is teaching me a lot about church and history and just in general good things and important aspects of Christianity I’ve never really heard of growing up Baptist/non denominational
@catfinity8799
@catfinity8799 Ай бұрын
Yeah, my nondenom pastor didn't know what the filioque was.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
Leave
@catfinity8799
@catfinity8799 Ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I'm about to go to college, so I will in a few months. All my friends and family go here; I'm not going to just break off and do my own thing just for a few months. I'm going to Calvin University.
@curtismartin4690
@curtismartin4690 Ай бұрын
It does not surprise me.
@disreceded
@disreceded Ай бұрын
Oh, that's usual and expected from nondenominational churches
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if he says the Holy Spirit is just an impersonal force
@jrgills
@jrgills Ай бұрын
Your comments about the “born again” experience really spoke to me. I am Catholic now but grew up Southern Baptist, and I always felt like I didn’t truly love God because I never had any sort of “personal experience”. I genuinely felt guilty because I never had that “getting saved” moment (I don’t even remember it, I was 7 when I supposedly gave my life to Christ). Turning Christianity into a charismatic spectable is one of the worst things to come out of the New Light ideas
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 Ай бұрын
What makes you Catholic? What appealed to you?
@groganz5221
@groganz5221 Ай бұрын
Good topic. Also I attended a PCA, and the building is over 100 years old with beautiful stained glass with a well educated pastor. Just letting you know so maybe you’ll stop generalizing denominations that aren’t mainline. Love you brother!
@Zonie-xv9ep
@Zonie-xv9ep Ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Emotionalism is a huge dent on the American church.
@jaidenforrest
@jaidenforrest Ай бұрын
I always learn something new when I watch you. My fiancé was also born and raised Presbyterian and like you, I also converted (Dec 2022)
@disreceded
@disreceded Ай бұрын
hi jaiden
@jaidenforrest
@jaidenforrest Ай бұрын
@@disreceded hey!
@disreceded
@disreceded Ай бұрын
​@@jaidenforrestwhat made you convert
@Robert_Sparkman_03
@Robert_Sparkman_03 Ай бұрын
Charles Finney was a nut and a liar. He didn't even study Presbyterianism before he was ordained, yet claimed that he held Presbyterian doctrines. Rather, he hated the doctrines of grace. He would discredit the pastors in the area where he came into, and then he would exact "conversions" out of the townspeople, then leave the town. This left no one to disciple the "converts", which I doubt were really saved to start with. I have a pretty good paper on Asahel Nettleton and Charles Finney and the nutty stuff Finney used as gimmicks in his preaching. Sadly, individual like Chuck Smith and Billy Graham spoke positively of Finney.
@simeonyves5940
@simeonyves5940 Ай бұрын
Finney was a Heresiarch. Period.
@jdkayak7868
@jdkayak7868 Ай бұрын
I was born into a reformed churchgoing family and my mom took me out to Calvary Chapel during my childhood honestly it was really disappointing, when I started driving I went straight back to the CRC. Grew up in Jack Hibbs (when it started) and saw Chuck Smith preached honestly it was just a bunch of hype about the "end times". I fully believe Chuck Smith is a false prophet.
@Robert_Sparkman_03
@Robert_Sparkman_03 Ай бұрын
@@jdkayak7868 I'm not much into Chuck Smith, but I wouldn't categorize him as a false prophet unless he prophesied something that didn't come true. But, I don't know much about him. I had a few friends who attended Calvary Chapel and I visited the local Calvary Chapel for some time...took their Bible School classes remotely. It wasn't my thing, though. There was some lady who prophesied during services once but I think that's against the rules. I liked Skip Heitzig's teachings back then, but there are better teachers in the Particular Baptist world imho.
@jdkayak7868
@jdkayak7868 Ай бұрын
@@Robert_Sparkman_03 he made a prophecy about the end of the world, many pastors in the Calvary Chapel system like to speculate on the end times.
@Robert_Sparkman_03
@Robert_Sparkman_03 Ай бұрын
@@jdkayak7868 Ah, OK. I really didn't listen to him much. I listened to tapes by Skip Heitzig and Mark Martin. I thought both of them were fairly decent back then. I learned quite a bit from them, but at a more basic level. I don't know if Skip got into the dispensational stuff very much. I never really learned dispensationalism, I don't think, because I was raised in a church that believed in historical premillennialism. I am now amillennial.
@sabreenahrochelle3989
@sabreenahrochelle3989 Ай бұрын
Pennsylvania is where Mr Rogers lived and worked and where he was ordained as a presbyterian minister :)
@BestBuddyNoivern
@BestBuddyNoivern Ай бұрын
I'll admit, I was NOT expecting a roast crowd in one of Zoomer's videos. It caught me off guard.
@ignitus7777
@ignitus7777 Ай бұрын
I'm a Pentecostal and I don't believe that we can make revivals to happen, but we need to be ready and pray for it! But we shouldn't say "Pentecostalism this, Pentecostalism that" for what American Charismatic people are doing! Remember that Pentecostal Christians are everywhere and we shouldn't accuse the whole denomination for what some people did! We could say a lot if we want to talk about lukewarm Churches!
@JoWilliams-ud4eu
@JoWilliams-ud4eu Ай бұрын
I do not like preachers who yell more than they need. Gavin Ortlund is a great example of someone who communicates very effectively without yelling.
@ethanmoon3925
@ethanmoon3925 Ай бұрын
I think both old light and new light had a point. It's important to really know the Bible and hold to solid truths, but it's also true that having a relationship with God is more than a reading list.
@bryanwalters9574
@bryanwalters9574 Ай бұрын
I highly recommend the book "a time to build" by Yuval Levin. Its a book of political philosophy centered around the importance of institutions. Levin is probably the smartest politically conservative intellectual around today.
@yaboi6279
@yaboi6279 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the video. I have actually been looking for content on this subject so praise the Lord for his providence 😁 I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the subject of prayer brother. God bless you y ¡arriba la Reconquista!✊💯
@jacobjorgensen729
@jacobjorgensen729 Ай бұрын
Great video on a topic I'm very ignorant on! Congrats on being engaged btw. This is the first time I heard that you have been!
@primerun
@primerun 26 күн бұрын
I like how you believe that people should consider staying in the church, especially younger people and reform it from the inside. I would love to get your input on how you believe regular layman can have such an influence. Should I join a church, stay in it for a while, then attempt to become a deacon and influence it that way? Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Maybe a good video topic if you haven't already made it?
@user-to5pk7ct1w
@user-to5pk7ct1w 24 күн бұрын
I grew up UPC, so I was unsettled on this issue before this video. Now I’m definitely Old Light.
@angelbonilla4243
@angelbonilla4243 Ай бұрын
Remember that RZ is a big fan of anti-revival theologian John Williamson Nevin.
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 Ай бұрын
Well a lot of this video is just old light support and anti-new light belief.
@daltonsaylor7556
@daltonsaylor7556 Ай бұрын
I’m going to ask a clarifying question, RedeemedZoomer you said that baptism saves and the Lord’s supper is the true body and blood of Christ but Baptism only saves when the Holy Spirit wants it to save? Does that mean that you think people who are intentionally baptized cannot be saved sometimes? I guess I’m just confused because it feels like God lays out the things to do to be saved but now you’re saying that the people who do those things are able to be picked and chosen by the Holy Spirit regardless of them following God’s directions for salvation?
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
Our faith saves us. Baptism and the Lord's Supper are things we do once we have been saved.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
A) Everyone is at least potentially saved already, it's just that most don't realise it. B) Faith precedes baptism: faith imputes righteousness, the confession of Jesus being the Saviour saves, and baptism regenerates and imparts righteousness. C) nobody should be left in any kind of thrological limbo that might arise through being baptised and then not being brought up in the faith, or bring forcibly baptised, and so on. This has to be left up to God's mercy to sort out, but we shouldn't cause these cases to occur.
@damnmexican90
@damnmexican90 Ай бұрын
It's a step towards salvation
@micahchapman7672
@micahchapman7672 Ай бұрын
I'm curious what you would think about praying for revivals? Not trying to actively start a revival, but instead hoping and praying that the Holy Spirit will stir a revival in the places which seem so desolate of God, especially here in Scotland, whilst still keeping good word and preaching.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
Generally speaking, if you don't pray for it, it won't happen.
@rebeccawells1580
@rebeccawells1580 21 күн бұрын
My church has revival every Sunday, it’s called morning services. That’s how I think we should all view church. I personally have a very active emotional side to my faith, but it’s okay that not everyone does. Just repent and call on the Lord, and you are saved.
@idriveastationwagon1534
@idriveastationwagon1534 Ай бұрын
Isn't one of the big rules in true Christianity is to not solely look at emotions? Also, thank you for bringing up the different conversion experiences.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
I felt really good yesterday, and I'm feeling pretty down today. Am I any more or less saved in either of these two states? Emotions have their parts to play and are not to be ruled out, but the thing they should be applied to, as with all other character traits and gifts, is the edification of the church. Feeling good on a personal or private level is not to be despised, but it's not the main thing.
@mihaivesa7719
@mihaivesa7719 Ай бұрын
God is the one sending revival and it’s not a « trendy » thing it’s something deep and profound
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 Ай бұрын
God is surely sending a revival, but not one based on feelings and emotions, that's just your distortion of it
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 Ай бұрын
​@@igorlopes7589following God is a relationship with the Lord. He is close by, and you should care about it. It's not an emotionless task to follow God.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 29 күн бұрын
@@aquicklad972 Feelings aren't the center of it
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 29 күн бұрын
@@igorlopes7589 Didn't say that. God is the center of it. He didn't save us for our sake. We do not follow Him for our sake.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 29 күн бұрын
@@aquicklad972 What I mean is that feelings aren't the center of our relationship with Him
@alaxx9746
@alaxx9746 Ай бұрын
Brother sweet berries for food are not the move you gotta upgrade 😅
@MusculusPulveri
@MusculusPulveri Ай бұрын
Never heard of this controversy before, but you make a very good argument.
@christianlamb3911
@christianlamb3911 Ай бұрын
Would love a video on why you aren’t UCC or DOC (I’m formerly DOC) but I would love to hear your perspective
@libertyboi5548
@libertyboi5548 25 күн бұрын
I think the reason for secularism in New England was Puritanism. Everyone thrown into that machine came out a Unitarian Universalist (look at Ralph Waldo Emerson) or, if they were lucky, a Wesleyan (look at Emerson’s Grandfather, Ezra Ripley) and probably one who later fell from Methodism to Proto-Pentecostal new-lightism. Anything touched by Calvinism/deep reformed theology falls apart into Liberalism, lol. OSAS and TULIP are either always either inverted over time to justify complacency with sin, or, they just drive theologically conservative Christians away.
@disreceded
@disreceded Ай бұрын
RZ, can you make a part 2 to your heresy video?
@DruckerYTA
@DruckerYTA Ай бұрын
Do a video on how Christian / religious each of the great music composers where throughout time plz
@notyourtypicalcomment2399
@notyourtypicalcomment2399 Ай бұрын
There’s tons of ppl baptizing as a baby and don’t believe when they grow up. The Bible says believe and be baptized.
@ethanmulvihill7177
@ethanmulvihill7177 Ай бұрын
Brother you just stepped into an ancient debate. I could discuss it a bit if you want but I would study it for real if I were you
@notyourtypicalcomment2399
@notyourtypicalcomment2399 Ай бұрын
@@ethanmulvihill7177 debate doesn’t always lead to truth my friend. Baptism doesn’t wash away sin also the baby has no sin, baptism isn’t the new circumcision, the Bible says it’s a circumcision made without hands, why? Because when one believes that’s the spiritual baptism, then a person can physically get it done. Also Are they dunking the baby? Because sprinkling doesn’t count anyway.
@jdkayak7868
@jdkayak7868 Ай бұрын
There's a ton of people being baptized as adults and they never truly believed just as well many leave the church, neither did those who are circumcised.
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 Ай бұрын
Infant baptism is an Unbiblical concept that has no backing by scripture. Period. The Bible is our ultimate authority we should adhere to, as it is God's word. nothing else.
@ethanmulvihill7177
@ethanmulvihill7177 26 күн бұрын
@@notyourtypicalcomment2399 You 1. Denied original sin 2. conflated spiritual baptism and physical baptism 3. assumed that sprinkling doesn't count for no good reason. 1. I'm still not sure why people are denying original sin especially in light of affirming Paul. 2. Spiritual baptism relates to spiritual circumcision, physical baptism relates to physical circumcision. In both cases the physical act demonstrates entering membership in a covenant and the hope for (or signification of) the spiritual reality. 3. There's actually no way you can prove full immersion from the Bible. I'm curious to see how and if you try but I'm sorry, I can't see any way.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
Revival, awakening - and when we do awake, what shall we see with open eyes? Lam.5:16?
@graysonallen4418
@graysonallen4418 Ай бұрын
RZ, what are your thoughts on snake handling?
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
If venomous, avoid.
@erikburke7210
@erikburke7210 Ай бұрын
Hearing all this stuff about New Light vs. Old Light and The Dangers of an Unconverted Ministry...I still hear that a lot in evangelical circles. Celebrity pastors are how we get things like Mars Hill and people like Mark Driscoll.
@DepravedSinner
@DepravedSinner 29 күн бұрын
The Asbury revival was going on back while I still attended the nondenom church I was raised in, I can confirm they were all absolutely convinced it was going to bring about some countrywide conversion. Funny how they seem to not remember it now.
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 28 күн бұрын
You won't fully know the extent of a revival until years later. A profession of faith today is one thing, but holding fast down the line is another. It *just* happened a year ago. A tree does not grow overnight, but takes time to grow.
@DepravedSinner
@DepravedSinner 27 күн бұрын
@@aquicklad972 Funny how there has been countless revivals over the past century and yet even with all this time for it to grow all it's bloomed into is a drastic decline in Christian faith.
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 26 күн бұрын
@@DepravedSinner instead of showing disdain and seeming to be upset at the prospect of people coming to Christ, maybe you need a new outlook. The love of Christ seems to be far from you with your remarks.
@DepravedSinner
@DepravedSinner 25 күн бұрын
@@aquicklad972 Why do you assume I have disdain or am upset? If anything my comments show how much I care, because I won't allow fads and trends to lead people away from Christ.
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 25 күн бұрын
@@DepravedSinner if these people from these revivals are being "led away from Christ" why don't you explain it? If you believe that the working of the Holy Spirit is something to scoff at (which you *have been doing*) then you need to seriously do some introspection. Instead of wanting to bring good theology and teaching to these people in need of it, you dismiss their experiences as irrelevant, their very stance as Christians as moot. The love of God is not in you. Be more like Paul, who exhorts one another to teach those who need to know. Where we "come to Christ only able to have milk" but "grow to eat food" in the spirit; that is to grow and become mature Christians. "All scripture is good for teaching and exhortation." Use the Bible and your spiritual maturity to help mentor those who are newer and weaker in their faith rather than disparaging them and dismissing their understanding of God. Your unwelcoming attitude is exactly what draws believers away from the church.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
Do you know where I can find a good reformed church in the L.A. area?
@Landon_R
@Landon_R Ай бұрын
Check the link in the description. He's got a map with churches he recommends. Looks like there's several Presbyterian and Lutheran ones in the LA area, and a couple of Anglican ones as well.
@meteo28
@meteo28 Ай бұрын
I remember being on the fence about that ‘revival’ last year and honestly quite sceptical, most of the other people in my Christian circles including my parents and pastor were heavily against it, and they honestly were right. You can’t ‘induce’ a revival, and many of the people doing it at Asbury were indeed practising sinful lifestyles and generally lacking in the piety and spiritual excellence needed for a effective revival.
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
100% The holy spirit doesn't produce a revival to teach the opposite of what the holy spirit wrote in scripture.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
The Holy Spirit has to start somewhere with what He can get. Sinful lifestyles can be remedied and repented of. If He isn't starting with you or me, who are, of course, the most perfect people He could find, that's probably because there's something stopping Him doing it - maybe our pharisaism?
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
@@jeremywilliams5107 No, I don't think the Holy Spirit is limited by me. You must think he's just a voice in your head or a little genie that tells you that your thoughts are infallible. And maybe don't call people pharisees when you yourself preach a false gospel.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
@anthonyprose4965 Let's not get emotional. You're wrong all along the line with what you think is my relationship with the Holy Ghost, and please note that pharasaism was a hypothetical and also applied to me. But accusation of a false Gospel is heavy stuff, and not something to be done lightly. Find me the contradiction of what i have said in the Bible, please.
@anthonyprose4965
@anthonyprose4965 Ай бұрын
@@jeremywilliams5107 "Don't get emotional," says the guy from the charismatic church that places emotion above scripture.... Your shame techniques have no affect on me. And your revivalist gospel is a false gospel. How far down the rabbit hole have you gone? Oneness? Jesus was created? We can be our own god if we do enough good works? Spirit Babies? Total perfection in this life? 2 works or the spirit or 3? Christian's can be possessed? Deliverance? False tongues speaking? I have zero respect for your lies. That which has been given was the completion of scripture and it wasn't until the pentecostal movement started to make up false doctrines did that get perverted, even more so by the charismatics. You are the result of a 100 years of brainwashing. Completely unaccountable and completely unteachable, prideful and full of arrogance. The first to accuse of the very things he is guilty of. No Thanks. I don't need any of your "new light."
@beaugetostarmixedbag210
@beaugetostarmixedbag210 Ай бұрын
Do you know if there are many traditional churches in Australia by any chance?
@baxter5310
@baxter5310 Ай бұрын
The LCA is a small mainline Lutheran denomination in Australia yet it is still traditional and somewhat theologically conservative (for now)
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 29 күн бұрын
www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1PNd_sJagci84PyKmGC6M5VJtaLMEWxg&ll=44.03226794579251%2C-92.75978994999998&z=17
@MyVikinglife
@MyVikinglife 7 күн бұрын
Is it easy to find your churches in Minecraft?
@tj-co9go
@tj-co9go Ай бұрын
20:50 finally something I agree with
@DJWells1
@DJWells1 Ай бұрын
5:50 how'd they get access to the Book of Life?
@alexandremuise8889
@alexandremuise8889 Ай бұрын
Closest church to me you've mapped is Anglican Church of Canada, which is almost as progressive as United Church of Canada. There's a good Wesleyan (unfortunately Armenian), just 50km away in Yarmouth.
@lathonland
@lathonland Ай бұрын
you should use more texture in your builds to spice up the look. Like adding some stone mixed in with the stone brick or andesite
@loganstrait7503
@loganstrait7503 14 күн бұрын
Zoomer keeps saying he's never going to convert to Orthodoxy but we all know how badly he yearns to taste the fountain of immortality.
@user-ku1kz4gz8q
@user-ku1kz4gz8q Ай бұрын
12:44 I think that also can be fixed with sacramental theology.
@Scholar4HaShem
@Scholar4HaShem Ай бұрын
I would say my religious practice, Messianic Judaism ✡️ is a combination of Old Light and New Light concepts, for obvious reasons. However, for me, the actual doctrines that come out of a New Light mindset are within my standard of belief. For example, many messianic Jews such as my congregation adhere to Pentecostal style worship. At the same time, though, we hold traditional Jewish liturgy along with a strong adherence to educating our members in the meaning behind all of the Jewish customs, so long as they align with the Hebrew Bible and New Covenant scriptures. For me, Messianic Judaism has, most of the time, met my needs of combining fervent expression along with institutional grounding.
@ZeroutlawRBLX
@ZeroutlawRBLX Ай бұрын
5 minutes ago is crazy, cheers from Italy
@israelgarcia7801
@israelgarcia7801 22 күн бұрын
Hmmm so I like Catholicism, and the Orthodox seem sincere as well. I like that Mar Mari or the priest who was stabbed and lost an eye. He spits hot fire.
@francindzefano1743
@francindzefano1743 Ай бұрын
how do I join this server?
@genericbeansmile756
@genericbeansmile756 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure but I think it is public
@carlosa.chacon985
@carlosa.chacon985 Ай бұрын
Why don't you make a video about pentecostals?
@DocumentalistaProhibido
@DocumentalistaProhibido Ай бұрын
Question, why don't play on creative, you could build churches better
@disreceded
@disreceded Ай бұрын
he probably enjoys all the difficulty doing it in survival
@seandashine
@seandashine Ай бұрын
How to join ur Minecraft server
@helenagreenpine1496
@helenagreenpine1496 Ай бұрын
1:20 yes, every person who goes to church should verify they are saved 2 Cor 13:5
@BibleNutter
@BibleNutter Ай бұрын
I pause the video every minute cause I can't believe what I'm hearing. Do you debate any baptists?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
yes
@aquicklad972
@aquicklad972 Ай бұрын
I for one would like to hear RZ debate a baptist, because I have a lot of my own convictions about why he's wrong. Don't get me wrong, I like RZ but this was really out of left field.
@MrMdhoward5
@MrMdhoward5 Ай бұрын
I was talking with my mom about a similar topic just yesterday!
@followerofyeshua9210
@followerofyeshua9210 27 күн бұрын
Praise the Lord Jesus that I am not the only one who thinks this.
@TitusCastiglione1503
@TitusCastiglione1503 Ай бұрын
So is the 2nd Great Awakening where the happy clappy hyper pietist pseudo-Baptist evangelicals come from?
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
yes
@TitusCastiglione1503
@TitusCastiglione1503 Ай бұрын
@@redeemedzoomer6053 explains a lot honestly. Hard pass for me personally.
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
No. It comes from two areas: 1) trying to achieve sanctification by human means through replacing spirit with emotion (the bad end) and 2) "if these should hold their peace, the stones would cry out" (the good end). _Post hoc non propter hoc!_
@TitusCastiglione1503
@TitusCastiglione1503 Ай бұрын
@@jeremywilliams5107 what are you trying to say?
@jeremywilliams5107
@jeremywilliams5107 Ай бұрын
@TitusCastiglione1503 the Latin phrase means " If B comes after A, it does not mean that B was caused by A." The original question is describing a situation that grew up after the 2GA but was not caused by it. I hope that answers your question.
@louannebvb
@louannebvb Ай бұрын
Please make your portal (church door) wider
@jonahcwik1199
@jonahcwik1199 Ай бұрын
I would also like to add with regard to your map that the CREC has planted a church in North Spokane, WA United States in 2023, though I know that your not as much of a fan of the newer reformed church plants.
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
but da buildling doe
@user-bz7hw4gx5n
@user-bz7hw4gx5n Ай бұрын
Is any of this relevant when the doctrine of Presbyterians is wrong? Calvinism is not biblical because faith precedes regeneration
@ethanmulvihill7177
@ethanmulvihill7177 Ай бұрын
Who said?
@Yoran87935
@Yoran87935 29 күн бұрын
We are dead in our sins and trespasses. Are we in our own might to make ourselves alive? Or is it the Holy Spirit who makes us alive. As profesied in ezekiel
@notyouraveragecentrist4536
@notyouraveragecentrist4536 Ай бұрын
Is Redeemed Zoomer just the Protestant version of Nick Fuentes? I’m getting that vibe
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
idk about that given I'm ethnically Jewish
@knightshade2654
@knightshade2654 Ай бұрын
I love my Christian club, but I do feel that many fail to recognize that any music, not just religious songs, can make you feel strong emotions.
@lucasmcnally5429
@lucasmcnally5429 Ай бұрын
what's server ip?
@ianbowden2524
@ianbowden2524 10 күн бұрын
Man I wanna show this to my mom and blow her mind lol.
@Irishman8778
@Irishman8778 18 күн бұрын
First Great Awakening in America: "creates a culture of celebrity pastors." Me looking at the current state of the American Church: oof....
@Ward3n_Main
@Ward3n_Main Ай бұрын
9:49 New Light slander🗣🗣🗣
@CorbinLeonard-rp4et
@CorbinLeonard-rp4et Ай бұрын
Yeah i ,m with old light
@8MinutesExplainer
@8MinutesExplainer Ай бұрын
4 min = 100 views
@jacobpottage6938
@jacobpottage6938 Ай бұрын
I have an idea, how can Calvinist soteriology fit qith the ontological argument? Surely the greatest possible being would would treat everyone the same as there will be a greatest way of treating someone, so, either Universalism, Universal Damnation or Arminian soteriology mist be the case.
@hewziheng4587
@hewziheng4587 Ай бұрын
You can argue that the greatest way of treating someone is customised to that particular person. Imagine a parent treating their child the same as they would someone who harms their child. God does otherwise - He protects His children and justly punishes those who hurt them, both the greatest ways of treating two different groups of people
@micahbannister1287
@micahbannister1287 Ай бұрын
@@hewziheng4587 However, the person doing the hurting is still His child. And the Bible clearly points to 1. That He wants everyone to be saved 2. Not everyone will be saved. Good eye, @jacobpottage6938
@hewziheng4587
@hewziheng4587 Ай бұрын
@@micahbannister1287Well I’ll say that #1 is not correct, usually supported with Scripture verses taken out of context/not read with sufficient nuance. So there really isn’t a contradiction here with a close reading of Scripture
@jacobpottage6938
@jacobpottage6938 Ай бұрын
@@hewziheng4587 You just argued against Unconditional election, the U in TULIP.
@micahbannister1287
@micahbannister1287 Ай бұрын
@@hewziheng4587 #1 absolutely is correct. The primary proof for that is in 2 Peter 3, where it is revealed that God even stalls His return as a mercy so that more people have time to accept Him. (You can try to find 2 Peter taken out of context, I promise you'll be trying harder and reaching more than the people who take Him at His word) And there isn't a contradiction between free will and God's sovereignty. Predestination traditions try to limit God's power by saying that it can only take place in a way that they understand. Since they only understand sovereignty to be full control, and none of the nuance of God being outside of time, they limit God's sovereignty to "having a script by which the universe runs", which is entirely their own invention. Rather, God is sovereign because He is all good and all powerful and timeless. And if He in His goodness chooses to create beings with the will to accept or reject Him, that will not interfere in the slightest with His power and His ability to orchestrate things outside of time. Do we not have the Incarnation as an example of an all-powerful God lowering Himself? His power and His ability to humble Himself are not contradictory there, why would they be anywhere else? Our God remains sovereign, but there is no reason to think that this means never allowing a choice against Him. It just means that the choices against Him will not prevail, that they will not undo His promises to the faithful, and that they will not change His nature. Calvinists simplify sovereignty to a "child playing Barbie and making certain dolls the bad guys and certain dolls the good guys" game, and get away with it because they are very intellectually sound in other areas. They remain my brothers in Christ, but predestination soteriology is part of the reason that so many people reject what is otherwise a very strong tradition.
@mccoyyoung3643
@mccoyyoung3643 20 күн бұрын
As usual I disagree lol, but this is still my favorite channel rn, learning so much!
@Morethangood.
@Morethangood. Ай бұрын
9:48 😂
@calebpritchett9629
@calebpritchett9629 Ай бұрын
APUSH mentioned !!!!
@wombatrepellant9809
@wombatrepellant9809 Ай бұрын
This is a brilliant satire
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on Ай бұрын
I think you would benefit from checking out Jacob Prasch. Blessings in Jesus redeemed zoomer.
@nsmith5636
@nsmith5636 Ай бұрын
I’ve heard about ir
@WarriorcatGerda
@WarriorcatGerda Ай бұрын
Hey RZ can you do a video on can Christians be socialist
@redeemedzoomer6053
@redeemedzoomer6053 Ай бұрын
I don't know enough about politics to make a video on it
@DruckerYTA
@DruckerYTA Ай бұрын
You don’t need a video on that to know the answer. No.
@WarriorcatGerda
@WarriorcatGerda Ай бұрын
​@@DruckerYTA I know that that but I want my art teacher to see that
@WarriorcatGerda
@WarriorcatGerda Ай бұрын
​@@redeemedzoomer6053 ok I understand good luck with reconquesta
@DruckerYTA
@DruckerYTA Ай бұрын
@@WarriorcatGerda I don’t know how convincing a Minecraft KZfaq video from a student would be at convincing an art teacher that they can’t be a socialist Christian lol
@regularminecraftbedrockpla2994
@regularminecraftbedrockpla2994 Ай бұрын
“ and thats the case for my fiance “ damn bro got that Christian rizz fr
@BestBuddyNoivern
@BestBuddyNoivern Ай бұрын
He said it himself- he's got Skibidi Ohio Rizz (it's a reference to something that happened on his discord; he says it's because the first time he rizzed up a girl, it was in Ohio)
@regularminecraftbedrockpla2994
@regularminecraftbedrockpla2994 Ай бұрын
@@BestBuddyNoivern bro has the ohio rizzler skibidi
@SoftwareNeos
@SoftwareNeos Ай бұрын
I knew the revival wasnt gonna work cause i didnt hear the gospel once when they went through the events
@JonBrase
@JonBrase Ай бұрын
7:57 Society in general these days is so much more mobile (people move more during their lives) that churches simply have to deal with their communities being less stable. That said, simply whether one likes the pastor is certainly not a good criterion.
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
Churches should never be stagnant. They should always be growing, multplying, and moving to where there is a need.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 Ай бұрын
​@@nerychristian No one is suggesting being stagnant, just being *stable,* there is a difference. A local church should always try to grow, but that doesn't mean there should be no stability at all
@PauloftherdMichiganinfantry
@PauloftherdMichiganinfantry Ай бұрын
Let God speak for himself less personal passions let God speak in his house
@SageTheOnce
@SageTheOnce Ай бұрын
Summarize revalations!
@kaleblam5084
@kaleblam5084 Ай бұрын
I knew what this was before you even started talking
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